SinEmpire, are you going to pay Amp for the sites you are using? - Page 16 - GoFuckYourself.com

Hue G. Pness · 09-25-2003, 06:12 AM

750

Yep it seems like two high profile names like Lens and Brad could have just fixed over phone and email. Something stinks here.

BlueDesignStudios · 09-25-2003, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
Something stinks here.

I agree. I think Lensman and Amp are going halves on the X-box.

BigFish · 09-25-2003, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by machinegunkelly

I agree completely .
Brad is a stand up guy .

Amp for a guy that so proudly displayed a testimonial by brad at the top of his site , you should have the decency to contact Him privatly . but I guess thats above your intelligence.

I third that and, according to most of the posts in this thread, most other people would agree too.

Groove · 09-25-2003, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios

I agree. I think Lensman and Amp are going halves on the X-box.

Case closed

the indigo · 09-25-2003, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire

Why aren't you just picking up the phone and calling me to discuss this matter?

Brad

Because Amp is a pussy. He acts like the big bad man behind his computer screen, but in reality, he is a shy little boy that hides on an island.

He made the error of releasing completed design to someone that did not pay him. That's his fucking problem. If he was a man enough, he would accept his error, move on and stop acting like a fucking piece of shit like he always do.

maxjohan · 09-25-2003, 06:31 AM

the thing with this thread is..he really took the profit %.

the indigo · 09-25-2003, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

someday when you fucking grow up, you'll realize that not everything is handled with an email. Situations vary. Relationships hang in the balance. Sometimes business spins on a pinhead.

Flounder in your utopian dilusion. Call us when you wake up.

You had his fucking phone number. You're such a BBS attention whore, it's so fucking sad and pathetic. Get a life. Grow up.

Yes, YOU have to grow up.

Tipsy · 09-25-2003, 06:43 AM

I felt left out by not posting here. Thought I'd rectify it.

BlueDesignStudios · 09-25-2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Tipsy
I felt left out by not posting here. Thought I'd rectify it.

Nice to see you Mr. 2 Million

Jimbo · 09-25-2003, 07:12 AM

WTF 16 pages, I read one

conclusion:

Brad: pay or remove the design

ty everyone.

12clicks · 09-25-2003, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Jimbo
WTF 16 pages, I read one

conclusion:

Brad: pay or remove the design

ty everyone.

you're an idiot.

BVF · 09-25-2003, 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by Lensman

BTW, you never should have gotten on my bad side.

that's the REAL issue here....no need for 17 pages of bullshit....If you get on the boss' badside, no matter what you do, you're fucked..

Jimbo · 09-25-2003, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

you're an idiot.

ok I'll read more pages...

don't call idiots people trying to make non self-important things short to accomplish more work.

12clicks · 09-25-2003, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
to be fair here, Brad didn't gank me (gank.... my new favorite word for the night) directly. Duane Hansen did. Brad bought these sites and members areas from Duane aka "pensfan" aka "BuckNaked", at a rock bottom price, since Duane was in "haul my scammin' worthless ass outta here" mode. And Duane got the profit and ran. I saw fuckall.

But to also be fair on my end, I did a whole lotta work for nothing. Granted, if you're buying something, you would expect the seller to have the right to sell it.... but that's not always the case, and it's wise to be prudent in your research prior to sending someone a check for something they don't own.

I own half your program Brad.

Amp, what was your business relationship with duane? partnership? broker? what?
if you had ANY type of business relationship with him than Brad owes you nothing. Zero. Go sue your business partner for your share of the profits.
If the work was stolen by duane, a person you had no business relationship with, then Brad should take down the designs and go after duane.

So which is it?

Veterans Day · 09-25-2003, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Amp, what was your business relationship with duane? partnership? broker? what?
if you had ANY type of business relationship with him than Brad owes you nothing. Zero. Go sue your business partner for your share of the profits.
If the work was stolen by duane, a person you had no business relationship with, then Brad should take down the designs and go after duane.

So which is it?

hmmmmm

chodadog · 09-25-2003, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Amp, what was your business relationship with duane? partnership? broker? what?
if you had ANY type of business relationship with him than Brad owes you nothing. Zero. Go sue your business partner for your share of the profits.
If the work was stolen by duane, a person you had no business relationship with, then Brad should take down the designs and go after duane.

So which is it?

The wiseman has pointed his finger.

Jimbo · 09-25-2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Amp, what was your business relationship with duane? partnership? broker? what?
if you had ANY type of business relationship with him than Brad owes you nothing. Zero. Go sue your business partner for your share of the profits.
If the work was stolen by duane, a person you had no business relationship with, then Brad should take down the designs and go after duane.

So which is it?

looks like I took second option as a fact

Groove · 09-25-2003, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by Jimbo

looks like I took second option as a fact

Trying to make non self-important things short to accomplish more work?

Jimbo · 09-25-2003, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by Groove

Trying to make non self-important things short to accomplish more work?

looks like you know how to copy paste. maybe you could teach that to me?

TheFLY · 09-25-2003, 08:14 AM

This is why I got out of the graphic design biz in 1994

Brad Mitchell · 09-25-2003, 08:20 AM

Still waiting on that invoice. Boy, must have been one hell of a party last night, eh Amp?

Brad

Sausage · 09-25-2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Still waiting on that invoice. Boy, must have been one hell of a party last night, eh Amp?

Brad

Starting to look more like an effort to discredit your program. Might be worth sending traffic to then!

Mr Pheer · 09-25-2003, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by TheJimmy
during all this posting & schtufff

I'm wondering how many new affiliate signups to 10dollarcash and sinbucks have been yielded from this posta-ba-looza...

None from me

Lensman · 09-25-2003, 08:37 AM

I think we should wrap this one up.

In summary:

Pensfan, aka Buck Naked hired Amp and some other designers to do sites for him, Amp and most likely the other designers never got paid. That's old news, it's been on this board for long time.

Their contract, whether written or a handshake, is "you design it, I pay for it, then I own it". Well if it's not paid for, then the person who ordered it doesn't own it.

Afterwards, Pensfan sold the sites to Brad SinEmpire, and later Brad discovered that at least part of them were not Pensfan's to sell. There is an old thred on this. He had conversations with Amp, and this is where Amp and Brad disagree about what happened. Brad say Amp didn't want to be paid, Amp disagrees.

I was discussing designs with Amp, and he told me that he didn't get paid for some of the work that SinEmpire is now using. I was outraged, and started this thread. There is nothing wrong with asking someone on GFY if they are going to "do the right thing"?

The good news is that Brad now agrees to pay Amp for his designs. Amp will email him a bill.

Brad agrees to do the right thing.

I started this thread, now it is time to end it. I think Brad should have the last word, but nothing but the primary parties have anything to add at this point. I am locking this thread, dragging on overnight is enough. If Brad wants the final word, I will unlock it for him.

09-25-2003, 06:12 AM	#751
Hue G. Pness Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Variable Posts: 1,237	750 Yep it seems like two high profile names like Lens and Brad could have just fixed over phone and email. Something stinks here. __________________ GFY Voice of Reason

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09-25-2003, 06:43 AM	#758
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09-25-2003, 08:37 AM	#774
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	I think we should wrap this one up. In summary: Pensfan, aka Buck Naked hired Amp and some other designers to do sites for him, Amp and most likely the other designers never got paid. That's old news, it's been on this board for long time. Their contract, whether written or a handshake, is "you design it, I pay for it, then I own it". Well if it's not paid for, then the person who ordered it doesn't own it. Afterwards, Pensfan sold the sites to Brad SinEmpire, and later Brad discovered that at least part of them were not Pensfan's to sell. There is an old thred on this. He had conversations with Amp, and this is where Amp and Brad disagree about what happened. Brad say Amp didn't want to be paid, Amp disagrees. I was discussing designs with Amp, and he told me that he didn't get paid for some of the work that SinEmpire is now using. I was outraged, and started this thread. There is nothing wrong with asking someone on GFY if they are going to "do the right thing"? The good news is that Brad now agrees to pay Amp for his designs. Amp will email him a bill. Brad agrees to do the right thing. I started this thread, now it is time to end it. I think Brad should have the last word, but nothing but the primary parties have anything to add at this point. I am locking this thread, dragging on overnight is enough. If Brad wants the final word, I will unlock it for him.