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TheFLY · 09-21-2003, 05:42 PM

Utopia is painfully obvious -- turn the other cheek and teach the ignorant by example...

Hating Bush won't solve anything though... pity is better

har har · 09-21-2003, 06:14 PM

i think its sad that bush has brain washed so many people into believing these people are terrorists.

its like when the world eventualy goes to war with america, can we hold your troops as terrorists and treat them like that? NO i hear you say? well tough shit we will anyway.

these are soldiors from a very disorginised 3rd world army(like most of the american army judging by cnn) ya'll got some junky trailer trash lookin hicks in your army

sacX · 09-21-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female
And if you want to think Bush is going to hell for "murder", you want to bring the Bible into this... Ok. The Bible also says "An eye for an eye". They deserve what they get, but if we inflicted upon them what they have done to our people, it wouldn't be humane. They were not defending their country, they were supporting terrorism, the same way you are. So seriously, you and them fuck off

uh these people haven't been trialled, there's no way YOU can tell they are getting what they deserved.

and the bible also says 'thou shalt not kill' and that trumps eye for an eye coz it's new testament. Stop living in the dark ages furious female..

theking · 09-21-2003, 06:36 PM

For the most part the prisoners are from various countries around the world and are al Qaeda trained personell...some may be Taliban fighters...but they are still being sorted out. Some that were Taliban fighters have already been released and as they are sorted out there may be more Taliban fighters released.

Those that are al Qaeda may be held...and should be held...until al Qaeda as an org does not any longer exist. If this is until hell freezes over...so be it.

Loryn · 09-21-2003, 06:43 PM

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fuck em, fuck em up the ass, fuck em up the ass with a woden spoon.. rights he says.. how about the rights of the 3000 people these fucks helped plot to kill? those fucking assholes right there are lucky as fuck they are still breathing air, if it was up to me, or a bunch of others who feel the way i do, those fucks would be burried neck deep during low tide

and while im on this rant, Corleone fuck you 2, why do you have compassion for these low lifes? these spineless cowards attacked our great nation like a bunch of pussys, they deserve alot worse then what those pics right there are showing

Do you know what those fucks would have done to an American Soldier. We treat them very well comparatively speaking. Half of those assholes didn't have it as good in their own country as they do in our prison.

Furious_Female · 09-21-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by sacX

uh these people haven't been trialled, there's no way YOU can tell they are getting what they deserved.

and the bible also says 'thou shalt not kill' and that trumps eye for an eye coz it's new testament. Stop living in the dark ages furious female..

Right and there's no way you can say they aren't getting what they deserve. If they supported terrorism, in any way shape or form, they deserve to be punished. Many people in this country are being held on suspicion and association and they all get their day in court to be found guilty or not guilty.

How do you know for sure those people never killed anyone? You don't, I don't either. My point was, if he wanted to bring the Bible into this, then I can also quote from the Bible. This is why wars happen over religion, every religion interprets the Bible differently and none of them can agree that it all means the same thing.

Ic3m4nZ · 09-21-2003, 06:48 PM

All what I can say is that he'll learn again when he will reelected in 2004

Loryn · 09-21-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by har har
i think its sad that bush has brain washed so many people into believing these people are terrorists.

its like when the world eventualy goes to war with america, can we hold your troops as terrorists and treat them like that? NO i hear you say? well tough shit we will anyway.

these are soldiors from a very disorginised 3rd world army(like most of the american army judging by cnn) ya'll got some junky trailer trash lookin hicks in your army

We do not sucker punch. You fuck with us we look you dead in the eye and say Let's roll.........

The only people who get brain washed are pessimists. It's easy to control someone who lives in fear. What do you think Saddam did? It's very apparent that his propaganda is spreading through you.....

sacX · 09-21-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

We do not sucker punch. You fuck with us we look you dead in the eye and say Let's roll.........

The only people who get brain washed are pessimists. It's easy to control someone who lives in fear. What do you think Saddam did? It's very apparent that his propaganda is spreading through you.....

To me it looks as though the US administration is scared.

bhutocracy · 09-21-2003, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

We do not sucker punch.

depleted uranium and sanctions must be the full Marquis of Queensbury then eh?

Ice · 09-21-2003, 06:56 PM

My dick is hard.

har har · 09-21-2003, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

We do not sucker punch. You fuck with us we look you dead in the eye and say Let's roll.........

The only people who get brain washed are pessimists. It's easy to control someone who lives in fear. What do you think Saddam did? It's very apparent that his propaganda is spreading through you.....

dont give me that shit, americans are the most dishonest, dishonourable nation on the planet, they will take every advantage and shoot you in the back, YOU CANNOT PUT SOLDIORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR HOMELAND UNDER GOVERNMENT ORDERS!!!! you stupid fuck

how would you feel if we took americans like that? i mean look at the crying fucking uproar about that silly lynch bitch fo fuck sake!!!

you have no idea, america wants to dominate, it wants to play by a seperate set of rules, but the tables are turning the worlds had enough, russias nukes are mobilizing, chinas 200 million strong army is mobilizing, they will take tiawan as a test but the US wont be far behind, lets see how you feel when your dignitys taken away, you have no idea on real life, you have no idea about anything outside your little protective shell except what you see through your tv!!!!

dont think your better coz it aint the truth and shit will fly, no country in the world can operate like this because every other country will get to the point where even if its suicide they will make you hurt

theking · 09-21-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by har har

dont give me that shit, americans are the most dishonest, dishonourable nation on the planet, they will take every advantage and shoot you in the back, YOU CANNOT PUT SOLDIORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR HOMELAND UNDER GOVERNMENT ORDERS!!!! you stupid fuck

What soldiers are you referring to that are in jail because they fought for their homeland under government orders?

har har · 09-21-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by theking

What soldiers are you referring to that are in jail because they fought for their homeland under government orders?

the ones from the taliban in the concentration camp, and dont talk shit about the legitimacy of the regime they where fighting under because your president cheated too and has caused 100 times as many deaths

theking · 09-21-2003, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by har har

the ones from the taliban in the concentration camp, and dont talk shit about the legitimacy of the regime they where fighting under because your president cheated too and has caused 100 times as many deaths

There have already been some that were Taliban fighters released and if there are more Taliban fighters they too will probably be released. Most of the prisoners are from various countries around the world and were al Qaeda trained and are not soldiers serving any government.

har har · 09-21-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by theking

There have already been some that were Taliban fighters released and if there are more Taliban fighters they too will probably be released. Most of the prisoners are from various countries around the world and were al Qaeda trained and are not soldiers serving any government.

do you belive everything your "fearless" leader says?

Loryn · 09-21-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by har har

dont give me that shit, americans are the most dishonest, dishonourable nation on the planet, they will take every advantage and shoot you in the back, YOU CANNOT PUT SOLDIORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR HOMELAND UNDER GOVERNMENT ORDERS!!!! you stupid fuck

how would you feel if we took americans like that? i mean look at the crying fucking uproar about that silly lynch bitch fo fuck sake!!!

you have no idea, america wants to dominate, it wants to play by a seperate set of rules, but the tables are turning the worlds had enough, russias nukes are mobilizing, chinas 200 million strong army is mobilizing, they will take tiawan as a test but the US wont be far behind, lets see how you feel when your dignitys taken away, you have no idea on real life, you have no idea about anything outside your little protective shell except what you see through your tv!!!!

dont think your better coz it aint the truth and shit will fly, no country in the world can operate like this because every other country will get to the point where even if its suicide they will make you hurt

One word JAPAN.....................Read history. They knocked on our door, we took them down and built them up in 5 years. Japan is not the 51st state. Is it????? We will do the same for Iraq. Quite bitching and hating everything about us you pessimist. Open your eyes the truth is right in front of you.

theking · 09-21-2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by har har

do you belive everything your "fearless" leader says?

No...but that does not change the status of the prisoners.

Loryn · 09-21-2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by har har

do you belive everything your "fearless" leader says?

YES I DO as much as you believe propaganda!!

Why · 09-21-2003, 07:22 PM

har har: have you read the geneva convention lately? it is indeed OK and LEGAL to detain enemy combatants, as long as they are treated well. i will agree that the prisoners in guantanamo bay may not have the best of living conditions but they could certainly be in a whole lot worse shape. at least they see the light of day. do you know how america treats thier highest level of prisoners? do a little reading on a prison in "leavenworth, kansas" and you will see they aint got it all that in the least.

as far as my outlook on the situation in general regarding the terrorist bullshit. well if someone came to my house and killed my family and friends.... id go to thiers, and kill thier mother, father, wife(s), children, and any fucking aquaintance of thiers i could find. maybe a more fitting death would be to round them all up in a house, bar them in it, and douse it with gasoline.

those prisoners will have thier day in court(i hope) but who knows what will happen as far as them recieving a fair trial as americas judicial system is lacking greatly.

every man or woman who has doned a US military uniform was fully aware when they put it on that they may not come home, may never see thier loved ones or thier homeland ever again. they also know that being captured by the enemy may lead to a lifetime of torture(POW/MIA;s from Vietnam learned this) but that is a risk they are willing to take. the taliban and al queda troops knew this was the case as well. the seperation is created in the fact that the american troops know that they would face a whole hell of a lot worse treatment then the enemy would.

there is a concept known as "guilt by association" these enemy combatants were fighting on the side of a losing army(the taliban) or they were members of a group that was hell bent on destroying our way of life. when they choose to be part of a group that was going to war with a fucking giant they should have weighed the risks involved. its not like it should have been a surprise to be taken prisoner. now if you run with a bad crowd you are associated with them. and consequently you will get treated like them as well.

for the rest of you fucks making judgements and speaking about "GOD" remember that judgement is his and his alone. so stfu!

Why · 09-21-2003, 07:27 PM

furthermore.

those of us that live in more privileged coutries dont realize how fragile life truly is. we whine and cry that civilians may be being killed. but in war that is known as collateral damage, shit happens when you walk to war. we may be fighting over there, but they brought the fight to us first, and it may come back to american soil at some point.

do realize that if it ever did come to american soil. they will not have thier media judging every move they make, they will have thier media showing thier citizens(the few that have TV) the glory of their murder and rape on american soil.

so whine and cry some more but realize that if roles were switched the happenings would be a whole fuck of a lot more brutal and violant.

people die every day for millions of differant reasons, and untill we all realize a way to get along on a global scale that war will be a FACT OF LIFE. and that in war people(guilty and innocent) will die.

and if we didnt take the fight to them, they are more then willing to bring it to us, as they have shown, and i for one say better them then i!

har har · 09-21-2003, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

One word JAPAN.....................Read history. They knocked on our door, we took them down and built them up in 5 years. Japan is not the 51st state. Is it????? We will do the same for Iraq. Quite bitching and hating everything about us you pessimist. Open your eyes the truth is right in front of you.

japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

Furious_Female · 09-21-2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

One word JAPAN.....................Read history. They knocked on our door, we took them down and built them up in 5 years. Japan is not the 51st state. Is it????? We will do the same for Iraq. Quite bitching and hating everything about us you pessimist. Open your eyes the truth is right in front of you.

Amen!

theking · 09-21-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by har har

japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

I may have missed something...who was talking about taking out China?

har har · 09-21-2003, 07:40 PM

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I may have missed something...who was talking about taking out China?

i ment japan, as for "why" -->

Loryn · 09-21-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by har har

japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

What are you talking about??? CHINA????

I do believe it was Paul Tibbot's in the Enola Gay that took out Japan, not China. WE COME IN LATE AND TAKE CREDIT????

Are you retarded???? We saved the French the English and half of Germany in WW2. (AND THE REST OF THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER) Read a book. Watch the Discovery channel or A&E instead of the man show.

Oh we also rid the world of Saddam.......................a idiot waiting to happen

Furious_Female · 09-21-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by har har

japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

"WE" the people. "WE" the tax payers. WE as Americans pay for these wars. WE the citizens, even if not in physical combat, are still contributing by paying our taxes. WE also have more money, military power and intelligence than all of the those other countries combined, so WE take credit, where credit is due.

WE even contribute to the cause by setting the record straight about what America really stands for, not the negative criticism and ignorance other less in the know, jealous countries portray us as.

iroc409 · 09-21-2003, 07:44 PM

hm... what about the rights of our soldiers taken prisoner?

it seems few countries around the world in the past several conflicts have taken that into consideration, but i guess nobody cares about that.

Sly_RJ · 09-21-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Corleone

just look at all those happy people. back to 1945.. Bushs little KZ on guantanamo

thats BAD.

yeah i know they're all bad talibans but they have human rights.

So what is this picture from? Who took it? What exactly is going on in the picture? When did this happen? Etc. Etc.

These are all things that need to be known before anyone can even begin to discuss it. Without FACTS and INFORMATION (context clues) a picture is pretty worthless.

For all I know, they're practicing for a new Broadway Play...

rossiya2 · 09-21-2003, 07:47 PM

Notice that enemy combatants are given a better treatment that a celebrity citizen of the country charged with selling colored glass. And these guys are the losers !! The winners now control an unregulated heroin empire greater than the pre-Taliban days. Courtesy of the Bush administration !!

theking · 09-21-2003, 07:52 PM

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i ment japan, as for "why" -->

This from someone that was telling another "go get a clue". So you mis-spoke...related to the President by any chance...he sometimes does the same thing?

har har · 09-21-2003, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

What are you talking about??? CHINA???? I do believe it was Paul Tibbot's in the Enola Gay that took out Japan, not China. WE COME IN LATE AND TAKE CREDIT???? Are you retarded???? We saved the French the English and half of Germany in WW2. (AND THE REST OF THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER) Read a book. Watch the Discovery channel or A&E instead of the man show.

Oh we also rid the world of Saddam.......................a idiot waiting to happen

you didnt save shit!!!!

nazis fucked up in operation barbarossa, they got pinned down and it weakened them. and if the price the world must pay for your countrys so called "saving" us is this, i wouldrather be nazi or japanase, stop riding a dead hore, you've overused all your world war 2 goodwill with your arrogence.

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"WE" the people. "WE" the tax payers. WE as Americans pay for these wars. WE the citizens, even if not in physical combat, are still contributing by paying our taxes. WE also have more money, military power and intelligence than all of the those other countries combined, so WE take credit, where credit is due.

WE even contribute to the cause by setting the record straight about what America really stands for, not the negative criticism and ignorance other less in the know, jealous countries portray us as.

wouldnt it be great if your whole country thought like that? we could end hunger, oppression, mass murder, you can all sit back like armchair warriors and pay taxes and nobody would goto war! their too good to get their hands dirty but they pay taxes!! yippee

your crdit is paste its due date

TheFLY · 09-21-2003, 07:55 PM

"Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose." -- Janis Joplin

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Furious_Female · 09-21-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by har har the Nazi, Saddam and terrorist supporting ignorant piece of shit

wouldnt it be great if your whole country thought like that? we could end hunger, oppression, mass murder, you can all sit back like armchair warriors and pay taxes and nobody would goto war! their too good to get their hands dirty but they pay taxes!! yippee

your crdit is paste its due date

har har · 09-21-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_FemaleThe Cumstain On Sexeducations Pillow

TheFLY · 09-21-2003, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female

"WE" the people. "WE" the tax payers. WE as Americans pay for these wars. WE the citizens, even if not in physical combat, are still contributing by paying our taxes. WE also have more money, military power and intelligence than all of the those other countries combined, so WE take credit, where credit is due.

WE even contribute to the cause by setting the record straight about what America really stands for, not the negative criticism and ignorance other less in the know, jealous countries portray us as.

Speak for yourself... You can say "WE" because you watch TV LOL... My city is full of "war is not the answer" signs and anti-Bush graffiti in the streets. Why don't you go outside and talk to real people in your community. I feel sad for the saps captive in their SUV's, afraid to look you in the eye. If you have so much money why don't you walk around your town and help out the homeless. Not everyone in America is an angry armchair quarterback with duct tape ready for the poison nerve gas LOL YOU are the ignorant fool... If America is so rich, then why does it allow people to starve in other countries... I'm sure you could skip a few pedicures to save a few staving children... Do you think these terrorists would be so angry if their biggest concern was perfecting their golf swing?

You need

Furious_Female · 09-21-2003, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by har har

Jump off of Saddam's dick

directfiesta · 09-21-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by iroc409
hm... what about the rights of our soldiers taken prisoner?

it seems few countries around the world in the past several conflicts have taken that into consideration, but i guess nobody cares about that.

Any problem with the theatment provided by Iraq????

har har · 09-21-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Speak for yourself... You can say "WE" because you watch TV LOL... My city is full of "war is not the answer" signs and anti-Bush graffiti in the streets. Why don't you go outside and talk to real people in your community. I feel sad for the saps captive in their SUV's, afraid to look you in the eye. If you have so much money why don't you walk around your town and help out the homeless. Not everyone in America is an angry armchair quarterback with duct tape ready for the poison nerve gas LOL YOU are the ignorant fool... If America is so rich, then why does it allow people to starve in other countries... I'm sure you could skip a few pedicures to save a few staving children... Do you think these terrorists would be so angry if their biggest concern was perfecting their golf swing? You need

very well said

cluck · 09-21-2003, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Speak for yourself... You can say "WE" because you watch TV LOL... My city is full of "war is not the answer" signs and anti-Bush graffiti in the streets. Why don't you go outside and talk to real people in your community. I feel sad for the saps captive in their SUV's, afraid to look you in the eye. If you have so much money why don't you walk around your town and help out the homeless. Not everyone in America is an angry armchair quarterback with duct tape ready for the poison nerve gas LOL YOU are the ignorant fool... If America is so rich, then why does it allow people to starve in other countries... I'm sure you could skip a few pedicures to save a few staving children... Do you think these terrorists would be so angry if their biggest concern was perfecting their golf swing? You need

Spoken like a true working class white American who's actually pulled his head out of his ass and realized the system isn't working for HIS benefit

cluck · 09-21-2003, 08:27 PM

BTW,

kiwi · 09-21-2003, 08:29 PM

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We saved the French the English and half of Germany in WW2. (AND THE REST OF THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER)

That's bullshit. The Russian Red Army saved the world from Hitler. Most of his resorces were committed to trying to hold his eastern front. Even then, the US army got mauled by the Germans and the only reason we were able to win is because we could replace our troops and resources, while the Germans couldn't.
Most people don't realise how desperately lucky we were to win the Battle of the Bulge.

Furious_Female · 09-21-2003, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

Speak for yourself... You can say "WE" because you watch TV LOL... My city is full of "war is not the answer" signs and anti-Bush graffiti in the streets. Why don't you go outside and talk to real people in your community. I feel sad for the saps captive in their SUV's, afraid to look you in the eye. If you have so much money why don't you walk around your town and help out the homeless. Not everyone in America is an angry armchair quarterback with duct tape ready for the poison nerve gas LOL YOU are the ignorant fool... If America is so rich, then why does it allow people to starve in other countries... I'm sure you could skip a few pedicures to save a few staving children... Do you think these terrorists would be so angry if their biggest concern was perfecting their golf swing? You need

What the FUCK are you rambling about? I never said I had "so much money" but I do give money to charities that are worthy. I can't help the homeless, unless they are mentally challenged, they choose to live that way. I had nowhere to live a few years ago too... no one gave me shit. I worked for what I have now and they can do the same.

America, the Red Cross, Christian Children's fund and MANY others, do all we can to help people starving in other countries, but it's not America's responsibility to take care of that, it's that country's government. America is just being humane by giving assistance.

I don't have pedicures or live in the lap of luxury like you said... so that's how ignorant YOU are. I never said that everyone supports the war, but if you are a tax payer, you damn sure are PAYING for it. WE all share a country, right or wrong. I didn't say WE all have the same views and WE all share the same beliefs, but WE as a nation contribute to the war, one way or another.

I'd be offended by what you said... if this wasn't coming from a guy who is part of some weird sex mafia.

theking · 09-21-2003, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by kiwi

That's bullshit. The Russian Red Army saved the world from Hitler. Most of his resorces were committed to trying to hold his eastern front. Even then, the US army got mauled by the Germans and the only reason we were able to win is because we could replace our troops and resources, while the Germans couldn't.
Most people don't realise how desperately lucky we were to win the Battle of the Bulge.

The Soviet Army did not save the world from Hitler. The Soviet Army along with a large portion of the world saved the world from Hitler. I will add that we provided our allies...including the Soviets...with the bulk of materials used in the war against Germany.

Care to explain what role luck played in winning the Battle of the Bulge.

cluck · 09-21-2003, 08:38 PM

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What the FUCK are you rambling about? I never said I had "so much money" but I do give money to charities that are worthy. I can't help the homeless, unless they are mentally challenged, they choose to live that way. I had nowhere to live a few years ago too... no one gave me shit. I worked for what I have now and they can do the same.

America, the Red Cross, Christian Children's fund and MANY others, do all we can to help people starving in other countries, but it's not America's responsibility to take care of that, it's that country's government. America is just being humane by giving assistance.

I don't have pedicures or live in the lap of luxury like you said... so that's how ignorant YOU are. I never said that everyone supports the war, but if you are a tax payer, you damn sure are PAYING for it. WE all share a country, right or wrong. I didn't say WE all have the same views and WE all share the same beliefs, but WE as a nation contribute to the war, one way or another.

I'd be offended by what you said... if this wasn't coming from a guy who is part of some weird sex mafia.

I don't think many homeless people choose to be homeless. It's easy to say anyone can work their way up but that's simply not true, especially in this Bush economy. It'd be nice if the government would create jobs in the US(possibly make foreign sweatshop labor illegal?). When you have nothing it's pretty hard to get money. Go visit an urban area and you'll see that even if the people find work, they're constantly in debt for the things they need.

theking · 09-21-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by cluck

I don't think many homeless people choose to be homeless. It's easy to say anyone can work their way up but that's simply not true, especially in this Bush economy. It'd be nice if the government would create jobs in the US(possibly make foreign sweatshop labor illegal?). When you have nothing it's pretty hard to get money. Go visit an urban area and you'll see that even if the people find work, they're constantly in debt for the things they need.

Homeless adults (unless they are mentally ill or mentally challenged) did, and do, in fact choose to be homeless...by the decisions they have made in life...and remain homeless by the decisions that they make.

eroswebmaster · 09-21-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by nap

i believe some innocent civilians died in the okc bombing and if memory serves me correctly it was an american who delivered the bomb.

aha what about John Doe #2?

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cluck · 09-21-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Homeless adults (unless they are mentally ill or mentally challenged) did, and do, in fact choose to be homeless...by the decisions they have made in life...and remain homeless by the decisions that they make.

Not everyone has opportunity in America. There are no streets paved in gold anymore. It's at least partially the fault of the big corporations using foreign labor instead of domestic labor. We're just continuing to pump money out of our economy into foreign countries. The money that is saved in paying $0.10 an hour instead of $6 an hour goes right back into the companies for reinvestment into the foreign labor, etc. Trying to give the consumers less and less money while trying to get more and more out of them is just an economic disaster waiting to happen.

eroswebmaster · 09-21-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by cluck

Not everyone has opportunity in America. There are no streets paved in gold anymore. It's at least partially the fault of the big corporations using foreign labor instead of domestic labor. We're just continuing to pump money out of our economy into foreign countries. The money that is saved in paying $0.10 an hour instead of $6 an hour goes right back into the companies for reinvestment into the foreign labor, etc. Trying to give the consumers less and less money while trying to get more and more out of them is just an economic disaster waiting to happen.

We are increasingly becoming a Service Only economy...scary eh?

09-21-2003, 03:23 PM	#51
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09-21-2003, 06:36 PM	#55
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09-21-2003, 06:56 PM	#62
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09-21-2003, 07:44 PM	#79
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09-21-2003, 08:27 PM	#92
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09-21-2003, 05:42 PM	#52
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Utopia is painfully obvious -- turn the other cheek and teach the ignorant by example... Hating Bush won't solve anything though... pity is better

09-21-2003, 06:14 PM	#53
har har So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 409	i think its sad that bush has brain washed so many people into believing these people are terrorists. its like when the world eventualy goes to war with america, can we hold your troops as terrorists and treat them like that? NO i hear you say? well tough shit we will anyway. these are soldiors from a very disorginised 3rd world army(like most of the american army judging by cnn) ya'll got some junky trailer trash lookin hicks in your army

09-21-2003, 06:48 PM	#58
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09-21-2003, 07:22 PM	#71
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	har har: have you read the geneva convention lately? it is indeed OK and LEGAL to detain enemy combatants, as long as they are treated well. i will agree that the prisoners in guantanamo bay may not have the best of living conditions but they could certainly be in a whole lot worse shape. at least they see the light of day. do you know how america treats thier highest level of prisoners? do a little reading on a prison in "leavenworth, kansas" and you will see they aint got it all that in the least. as far as my outlook on the situation in general regarding the terrorist bullshit. well if someone came to my house and killed my family and friends.... id go to thiers, and kill thier mother, father, wife(s), children, and any fucking aquaintance of thiers i could find. maybe a more fitting death would be to round them all up in a house, bar them in it, and douse it with gasoline. those prisoners will have thier day in court(i hope) but who knows what will happen as far as them recieving a fair trial as americas judicial system is lacking greatly. every man or woman who has doned a US military uniform was fully aware when they put it on that they may not come home, may never see thier loved ones or thier homeland ever again. they also know that being captured by the enemy may lead to a lifetime of torture(POW/MIA;s from Vietnam learned this) but that is a risk they are willing to take. the taliban and al queda troops knew this was the case as well. the seperation is created in the fact that the american troops know that they would face a whole hell of a lot worse treatment then the enemy would. there is a concept known as "guilt by association" these enemy combatants were fighting on the side of a losing army(the taliban) or they were members of a group that was hell bent on destroying our way of life. when they choose to be part of a group that was going to war with a fucking giant they should have weighed the risks involved. its not like it should have been a surprise to be taken prisoner. now if you run with a bad crowd you are associated with them. and consequently you will get treated like them as well. for the rest of you fucks making judgements and speaking about "GOD" remember that judgement is his and his alone. so stfu!

09-21-2003, 07:27 PM	#72
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	furthermore. those of us that live in more privileged coutries dont realize how fragile life truly is. we whine and cry that civilians may be being killed. but in war that is known as collateral damage, shit happens when you walk to war. we may be fighting over there, but they brought the fight to us first, and it may come back to american soil at some point. do realize that if it ever did come to american soil. they will not have thier media judging every move they make, they will have thier media showing thier citizens(the few that have TV) the glory of their murder and rape on american soil. so whine and cry some more but realize that if roles were switched the happenings would be a whole fuck of a lot more brutal and violant. people die every day for millions of differant reasons, and untill we all realize a way to get along on a global scale that war will be a FACT OF LIFE. and that in war people(guilty and innocent) will die. and if we didnt take the fight to them, they are more then willing to bring it to us, as they have shown, and i for one say better them then i!

09-21-2003, 07:47 PM	#81
rossiya2 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 287	Notice that enemy combatants are given a better treatment that a celebrity citizen of the country charged with selling colored glass. And these guys are the losers !! The winners now control an unregulated heroin empire greater than the pre-Taliban days. Courtesy of the Bush administration !!

09-21-2003, 07:55 PM	#84
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