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blackmonsters · 10-14-2003, 02:36 PM

This sounds like free sites will be illegal.

yahoo news article

GoGoBar · 10-14-2003, 02:36 PM

LOL, welcome to 1997!

The sky is falling, get out now!

ytcracker · 10-14-2003, 02:36 PM

i posted this a little earlier

blackmonsters · 10-14-2003, 02:39 PM

I remember 1997...I remember no Bush and no Ashhahahahaha too.

xenigo · 10-14-2003, 02:40 PM

I think free sites should be illegal. Conversions will be through the roof.

Sly_RJ · 10-14-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

The law, signed by former President Clinton and endorsed by President Bush, was written to replace a 1996 statute, the Communications Decency Act, that the Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional on free-speech grounds in 1997.

Maybe it isn't just the Republicans after all? No way!

Stud Money · 10-14-2003, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo
I think free sites should be illegal. Conversions will be through the roof.

If not illegal at least VERY heavily censored

blackmonsters · 10-14-2003, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo
I think free sites should be illegal. Conversions will be through the roof.

Coversions may go up with "softcore only" free sites but I don't see how any pay site will get any traffic without a "teaser"...what do you do, send a porn photo with mental telepathy?

crockett · 10-14-2003, 02:45 PM

yea right , even if the US webmasters had to stop.. do you really think it would affect anything? other than making more room for the cheaters

Pornwolf · 10-14-2003, 02:46 PM

Only in the US. It looks like Canadian domination of porn is at hand.

blackmonsters · 10-14-2003, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
yea right , even if the US webmasters had to stop.. do you really think it would affect anything? other than making more room for the cheaters

hehehehe!

Yeah, when free sites are illegal all the decent webmasters will quit and there will be nothing but cheaters from other countries.

Is it cold in Canada?

$69 on Greyhound will get me to the border.

rooster · 10-14-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Only in the US. It looks like Canadian domination of porn is at hand.

heh, too bad theres no bank in canada that will process adult

harvey · 10-14-2003, 03:09 PM

it would be great

besides, if US would want to do it, it could be done very easily, and believe me most countries would follow the path. How? Simply disallow porn without the need of CC or any other kind of payment which connotes proof of age (sorry, no dialers). Then, a law that blocks traffic from any ISP and hosts in any place in the world providing porn without this proof of age. Big business for everybody, no more free porn and God and holy ghost selling porn like mad and NOT TO KIDS

But I really doubt this will ever happen

Ice · 10-14-2003, 03:13 PM

Carlos · 10-14-2003, 03:14 PM

I don't understand one thing about that law. What is the illegal part? I mean, is it illegal to have the site hosted on a server which is in the US or is the making of the site of a person that lives in the US illegal?

tonkagunner · 10-14-2003, 03:26 PM

Looks like the Bush people want to put US into a depression. First it is telemarketing, now porn.

Why do they want jobs to go overseas?

Ic3m4nZ · 10-14-2003, 03:30 PM

Free sites illegal ?

who cares there's still kazaa and other things like that to get free porn.

andi_germany · 10-14-2003, 03:35 PM

I hate to break it to you but porn without any form of age control is illegal all around the world. As simple as that.

Not just in the future it always has been illegal to publish porn where minors can view it without restriction.

Why webmasters still think it is ok is really beyond me. I guess when you wake up with a 250 pound criminal assfucking you you might believe it finally.

pamphage · 10-14-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo
I think free sites should be illegal. Conversions will be through the roof.

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2003, 03:43 PM

that would really suck for me since free sites is how i make my money but i think it would effect EVERYONE. so much traffic to sponsors comes from SE and TGP's and free sites. imagine if that was all gone. i don't really see it happening tho, the net is international, not something the US owns. they can't force all countries to impose such a law.

Baal · 10-14-2003, 03:48 PM

Interesting note from the article:

"The case is Ashcrof-t v. ACLU, 03-218. " (dash added by me)

BTW, no decision has been announced as of this second.

maxjohan · 10-14-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters

Coversions may go up with "softcore only" free sites but I don't see how any pay site will get any traffic without a "teaser"...what do you do, send a porn photo with mental telepathy?

they gonna get so bored by clothes everywhere..after x days they buy just by seeing a tight ass with panties.

harvey · 10-14-2003, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters

Coversions may go up with "softcore only" free sites but I don't see how any pay site will get any traffic without a "teaser"...what do you do, send a porn photo with mental telepathy?

well, don't tell anyone, but I heard some people is working in a new concept, Search Engine or something like that they call it. Not sure about it, but I also heard it implies some kind of magic, dunno how they do, you write "tranny midget with a goat" in a box and they show you some sites related to trannies, midgets and goats. Also zillions of sites from countries where their CC are not valid at all knew of some different magic, not sure about it, but I think they call it Internet and thanx to The HTML Wizard and his wizardry they show images of people, mostly girls using no clothes. Go figure those pagan rites

myjah · 10-14-2003, 04:46 PM

Screw all censorship of any kind. Tell your kids to go play in the street and get off YOUR comp.

Carrie · 10-14-2003, 06:52 PM

Some of you guys are really cute.
As if traffic didn't exist before free sites, or that free sites have been around forever.

*pats little heads all around*

IntenseCash · 10-14-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Stud Money

If not illegal at least VERY heavily censored

I agree... that would help this industry so much!

NoCarrier · 10-14-2003, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters

Coversions may go up with "softcore only" free sites but I don't see how any pay site will get any traffic without a "teaser"...what do you do, send a porn photo with mental telepathy?

Seriously man, do you seriously think that any surfers will stop joining sites because they can't access free stuff anymore?! HAHAHAHA.. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.. This is like wondering if people will stop drinking beer if they don't have a free beer anymore..

TGP's will suffer this.. Adult Content provider will suffer this.. Adult hosting provider will suffer this..

Why? No TGP = No webmasters buying sets for TGP's and no more gigs of free bandwith for the Hosts....

Paysites will not lose any cash.. trust me..

pimplink · 10-14-2003, 07:04 PM

LOL!

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Originally posted by harvey

well, don't tell anyone, but I heard some people is working in a new concept, Search Engine or something like that they call it. Not sure about it, but I also heard it implies some kind of magic, dunno how they do, you write "tranny midget with a goat" in a box and they show you some sites related to trannies, midgets and goats. Also zillions of sites from countries where their CC are not valid at all knew of some different magic, not sure about it, but I think they call it Internet and thanx to The HTML Wizard and his wizardry they show images of people, mostly girls using no clothes. Go figure those pagan rites

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

Seriously man, do you seriously think that any surfers will stop joining sites because they can't access free stuff anymore?! HAHAHAHA.. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.. This is like wondering if people will stop drinking beer if they don't have a free beer anymore..

TGP's will suffer this.. Adult Content provider will suffer this.. Adult hosting provider will suffer this..

Why? No TGP = No webmasters buying sets for TGP's and no more gigs of free bandwith for the Hosts....

Paysites will not lose any cash.. trust me..

no, its more like ppl won't know where to find the beer anymore. if all major avenues that paysites use to advertise disappear...where will traffic come from? if a free 'site' consists of ANY page with adult images or language, then all adult SE traffic is gone, no? all link lists, all tgp's. sex.com will have to be behind a wall that can only be accessed with a CC, no?

chodadog · 10-14-2003, 07:06 PM

They want to make sites with no age verification illegal, yet there's no way to verify the age of a surfer (as per Visa's ruling about using credit cards as a means of age verification). So technically, wouldn't that make all adult sites in the US illegal?

I reckon the whole problem could be solved by adding a date of birth field to the credit card forms. Visa, mastercard.. they've all got that shit on file.

pimplink · 10-14-2003, 07:06 PM

Exactly. Many webmasters are under the mistaken belief that traffic only comes from TGPs and other related promotions models.

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

Seriously man, do you seriously think that any surfers will stop joining sites because they can't access free stuff anymore?! HAHAHAHA.. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.. This is like wondering if people will stop drinking beer if they don't have a free beer anymore..

TGP's will suffer this.. Adult Content provider will suffer this.. Adult hosting provider will suffer this..

Why? No TGP = No webmasters buying sets for TGP's and no more gigs of free bandwith for the Hosts....

Paysites will not lose any cash.. trust me..

Carrie · 10-14-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by chodadog
They want to make sites with no age verification illegal, yet there's no way to verify the age of a surfer (as per Visa's ruling about using credit cards as a means of age verification). So technically, wouldn't that make all adult sites in the US illegal?

I reckon the whole problem could be solved by adding a date of birth field to the credit card forms. Visa, mastercard.. they've all got that shit on file.

Exactly. The disappearance of free sites is not the problem. The fact that no age verification system exists is the problem.
Germany has means of verifying age online (two devices that hook to your computer) - why dont we?!?

Pornwolf · 10-14-2003, 07:16 PM

http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/3091971

This is a reason to celebrate!

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2003, 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie
Some of you guys are really cute.
As if traffic didn't exist before free sites, or that free sites have been around forever.

*pats little heads all around*

do you mind enlightening me as to where it does come from then? if it doesn't come from search engines, tgps, free sites, link directories?

NoCarrier · 10-14-2003, 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by BlackCrayon

no, its more like ppl won't know where to find the beer anymore. if all major avenues that paysites use to advertise disappear...where will traffic come from? if a free 'site' consists of ANY page with adult images or language, then all adult SE traffic is gone, no? all link lists, all tgp's. sex.com will have to be behind a wall that can only be accessed with a CC, no?

Hahaha.. you really think that those sites will disappear? What do you think the surfers were looking at, at the beginning? They weren't looking at 100000's of free movies of girls gagging or getting ass raped by 10 guys..

Teasing the surfers is our job.. But the teasing part has become ridiculous.. Don't u think?

Lensman · 10-14-2003, 07:29 PM

There is too much free porn

BlackCrayon · 10-14-2003, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

Hahaha.. you really think that those sites will disappear? What do you think the surfers were looking at, at the beginning? They weren't looking at 100000's of free movies of girls gagging or getting ass raped by 10 guys..

Teasing the surfers is our job.. But the teasing part has become ridiculous.. Don't u think?

oh i agree, i don't post that kind of stuff on my free sites, just softcore stuff but according to that article any site that contains adult images or language needs to behind some kind of age verification barrier, well that kind of screws it for making doorways on search engines for paysites if they can't even use adult language doesn't it?

as for what they were looking at in the beginning, well free stuff has always existed on newsgroups, bbs, usenet.

the indigo · 10-14-2003, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie
Some of you guys are really cute.
As if traffic didn't exist before free sites, or that free sites have been around forever.

*pats little heads all around*

Well tell me. Seriously.

No free sites = No TGPs, MGPs, teasing pages, exit consoles, etc.

Only paysites. No pussy, no boobs, all censored.

Now the only way to get traffic would be SE... and you CAN NOT SEND your SE hits to a free TOUR page!

the indigo · 10-14-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

Seriously man, do you seriously think that any surfers will stop joining sites because they can't access free stuff anymore?! HAHAHAHA.. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease.. This is like wondering if people will stop drinking beer if they don't have a free beer anymore..

TGP's will suffer this.. Adult Content provider will suffer this.. Adult hosting provider will suffer this..

Why? No TGP = No webmasters buying sets for TGP's and no more gigs of free bandwith for the Hosts....

Paysites will not lose any cash.. trust me..

I guess you are wrong.

This work out if you can't find any beer for free ANYWHERE.

Problem is that P2P will get much more popular and bigger. P2P will be the next TGP, but we won't be able to advertise correctly P2P.

If each single paysite fight to get the #1 first in google, this industry is doomed for 80% of the other paysites who can't get into the top 100.

Lane · 10-14-2003, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo

I guess you are wrong.

This work out if you can't find any beer for free ANYWHERE.

Problem is that P2P will get much more popular and bigger. P2P will be the next TGP, but we won't be able to advertise correctly P2P.

If each single paysite fight to get the #1 first in google, this industry is doomed for 80% of the other paysites who can't get into the top 100.

second that..

p2p will take over if free sites disappear

D_Nell · 10-14-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo
I think free sites should be illegal. Conversions will be through the roof.

I totally agree. Money making in porn could be bigger than ever!

Just remember that TGP's will fall into this category!

D_Nell · 10-14-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Lane

second that..

p2p will take over if free sites disappear

Wrong P2P will be outlawed in the future. FBI is all over it, plus Music Industry, and Movie Industry is about to join the fight. Not industries I would want to try to fight.

P2P is being portrayed as a distributor of illegal copyrighted files.

FlyingIguana · 10-14-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo
I think free sites should be illegal. Conversions will be through the roof.

free sites would just go behind huge avs type systems. nothing would change exept having to 'verify' your age. could mean less people controlling more of the adult traffic out there.

but it won't happen

Theo · 10-14-2003, 08:03 PM

once again,nothing will happen

bump this thread after 3 years and we see

Carrie · 10-14-2003, 08:30 PM

For all of you thinking the world will end because free sites and TGPs were gone... how do you think the big $$ veterans made their money before there were the free porn meccas of free sites and tgps?

Just think on that, and it'll be clear. These things did not exist a couple of years ago, and people *without paysites* were still making money hand over fist. And if this law goes down, the folks who remember what it was like before free sites and tgps will *still* be making money hand over fist. Especially once all of the free site makers and gallery makers give up and go away who can't see the forest for the trees. More traffic for the rest of us who stick around and pull out those old-school tactics.

PS- I also agree that P2P will be huge, but it won't be the only way to get traffic, just as there's no "only" way to get traffic now.

Carrie · 10-14-2003, 08:33 PM

Also I'm not saying I'm old-school, I'm not. I just know how traffic was garnered those days and it certainly makes more sense than the way it's garnered now. No free porn? Hell yeah, bring it on.

Adapt or die.

the indigo · 10-14-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by D_Nell

Wrong P2P will be outlawed in the future. FBI is all over it, plus Music Industry, and Movie Industry is about to join the fight. Not industries I would want to try to fight.

P2P is being portrayed as a distributor of illegal copyrighted files.

Do you have any links/article on this?

Since the beginning of P2P, I always said that shit would kill the Music, Porn and Movies industries within 10 years.

As soon as Internet2 goes live, downloading at 3meg/sec will destroy any industry based on data.

Honeyslut · 10-14-2003, 08:55 PM

Interesting thread

I am glad I never listened to the only advice I was given in this business 3 years ago when I started my small paysite. I was told to stick to free sites. I know I will be ready if there is no free porn !

the indigo · 10-14-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie
Also I'm not saying I'm old-school, I'm not. I just know how traffic was garnered those days and it certainly makes more sense than the way it's garnered now. No free porn? Hell yeah, bring it on.

Adapt or die.

Stop this non-sence and tell us exactly what you are talking about.

How did it work before free sites?

The gold days where pretty much like that: Put some banners on a white blank pages, submit it for free to dozen of SE, trick them to get listed 100's of time with the same page and cash your check.

And millions of other little tricks from http://trix.sexswap.com/

I read almost everything from '97 and I have no idea wtf you are talking about.

The "freesite" concept is a marketing concept. Before '98, you did not need any marketing concept since there was no competition at all online for the amount of people looking for porn.

the indigo · 10-14-2003, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Honeyslut
Interesting thread

I am glad I never listened to the only advice I was given in this business 3 years ago when I started my small paysite. I was told to stick to free sites. I know I will be ready if there is no free porn !

And your traffic comes from.... ?

You buy a music album because you heard a free song on the radio.

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Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	For all of you thinking the world will end because free sites and TGPs were gone... how do you think the big $$ veterans made their money before there were the free porn meccas of free sites and tgps? Just think on that, and it'll be clear. These things did not exist a couple of years ago, and people without paysites were still making money hand over fist. And if this law goes down, the folks who remember what it was like before free sites and tgps will still be making money hand over fist. Especially once all of the free site makers and gallery makers give up and go away who can't see the forest for the trees. More traffic for the rest of us who stick around and pull out those old-school tactics. PS- I also agree that P2P will be huge, but it won't be the only way to get traffic, just as there's no "only" way to get traffic now.

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Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Also I'm not saying I'm old-school, I'm not. I just know how traffic was garnered those days and it certainly makes more sense than the way it's garnered now. No free porn? Hell yeah, bring it on. Adapt or die.

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