nasty dollars is crooked?? - GoFuckYourself.com

plsureking · 09-10-2003, 09:33 PM

looking for info. i run some model sites but i also do a lot of affiliate shit. I ran across one of nasty dollars' sites - allamateurmovies - and liked it. I joined as a member and still liked it so i signed up to do affiliate work.

we run an ezine with over a half a mil qualified (says me hehe) uniques and a top list with 35k uniques a day. they send a shitload of hits to the banners i run. i've run affiliate banners for sites all over the place and made great money.

When i ran a nastydollars banner on my ezine, my banner system (which is audited) counted clicks like this:

9-9-2003: 314
9-10-2003: 323

theirs counted like this:

9-9-2003: 120
9-10-2003: 135

i've had accurate counting all over the web with everyone else's system. so i'm asking, what the fuck is up with these bastards at nasty dollars? do they fuck everybody equally?

Sly_RJ · 09-10-2003, 09:35 PM

Well, if 3:1 is tour page to join page ratio, then they must be counting join page or second page clicks.

GotGauge · 09-10-2003, 09:38 PM

I think nastydollars counts like second or join page hits

Lane · 09-10-2003, 09:39 PM

thats not called 'getting fucked' unless its a pay-per-click program

MuleScrote · 09-10-2003, 09:39 PM

They run a tight ship in my opinion

plsureking · 09-10-2003, 09:42 PM

could their join page really be that unappealing?

the only site i've promoted that performed worse was jenna's. i pushed her site when she was doing the whole o'reilly business. got 500-600 clicks a day and 4 signups in a week.

i can send them. everything else is up to the guys running the program..

Spunky · 09-10-2003, 09:43 PM

Must be a misunderstanding..usally always is

MuleScrote · 09-10-2003, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
Must be a misunderstanding..usally always is

Your sig has been molested again...thanks

garce · 09-10-2003, 09:46 PM

Maybe you could ask them? They've always replied promptly to me (yay I'm special), and with that much traffic I'm sure you could work something out with them. The click throughs seem kinda low for the amount of uniques you have, no matter how they're counting them.

As for me, conversions and hit counts have been consistant over the last few years.

garce

plsureking · 09-10-2003, 09:48 PM

thanks for the info guys. i'll take it up with them.

they claim to pay $35 per signup. maybe i'll send some more traffic this weekend.

my surfers get tired of our stuff, so i look for good programs. ftvgirls converts like a mofo though! hot tip...

garce · 09-10-2003, 09:54 PM

They DO pay $35 per signup. I won't say they count every signup

, but I've never had a problem with the bottom line.

garce

plsureking · 09-10-2003, 09:56 PM

i'm laughing man. what do you mean they don't count every signup? you talking about chargebacks/refunds or something else?

garce · 09-10-2003, 10:17 PM

I'm sure they credit every signup that their software tracks.

I have nothing bad to say about ND - I think its a primo proggy and they are one of the few places I've recommended friends sign up to. You get a lot of goodness for your dollar.

Just try getting in touch with them, tell them what you have to offer.

garce

plsureking · 09-10-2003, 10:19 PM

yeah i emailed them. they must be sleeping! wtf??

hehe. thanks.

SleazyDream · 09-10-2003, 10:22 PM

maybe they're just doing this to YOU?

GotGauge · 09-10-2003, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking
thanks for the info guys. i'll take it up with them.

they claim to pay $35 per signup. maybe i'll send some more traffic this weekend.

my surfers get tired of our stuff, so i look for good programs. ftvgirls converts like a mofo though! hot tip...

If FTV girls Converts for you, then you need to promote other sites along those lines. It is all about the type of traffic you have.
FTV girls converts well for me also.
ICQ me we should talk
22264474
Not sure how long I will be on, a big storm is headed my way, LOL
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vicki · 09-10-2003, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
maybe they're just doing this to YOU?

hahahahaha ok i spewed a mouthful of water on that one!

you bad bad boy sleazy! ;)

SomeCreep · 09-10-2003, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking

When i ran a nastydollars banner on my ezine, my banner system (which is audited) counted clicks like this:

9-9-2003: 314
9-10-2003: 323

theirs counted like this:

9-9-2003: 120
9-10-2003: 135

i've had accurate counting all over the web with everyone else's system. so i'm asking, what the fuck is up with these bastards at nasty dollars? do they fuck everybody equally?

Theres a reason ND is so popular, they're the best. You come and slam them on this board because you think you got jacked 100 - 200 uniques? pleeeeeeassse....

Lonny · 09-10-2003, 10:36 PM

they acused me of fraud about a month ago or so, only to have my account reactivated after 6 days with 3 signus lost from them. oh well theirs other sponser out their that pay better.

DirtyRider · 09-10-2003, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by garce
Maybe you could ask them? They've always replied promptly to me (yay I'm special), and with that much traffic I'm sure you could work something out with them. The click throughs seem kinda low for the amount of uniques you have, no matter how they're counting them.

As for me, conversions and hit counts have been consistant over the last few years.

garce

Never had luck in getting a reply

Lonny · 09-10-2003, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DirtyRider

Never had luck in getting a reply

no shit it took 4 emails until i complained about them here and some one posted some one name [email protected]
correct me if im wrong on the spelling on that address...
i did how ever received a quick reply stating i was terminated , please send us traffic info and were your hits are comming from bla bla bla....

J.R. · 09-10-2003, 11:17 PM

Anyone who knows their own traffic will quickly know
who is shaving.

This topic and Nasty$ has been talked about before, why
do you think alot of their webmasters promote our sites ?

Cuz' we don't need to shave, we pay out what
we can afford to pay out

Real Time Stats and more, webmasters who know their
traffic will see a huge difference with us

the indigo · 09-10-2003, 11:35 PM

It's pretty standard.

3 years ago, 1:500 on the first page was standard
later it was 1:500 on second page
and someday it will be 1:500 on signup page

Bottomline is fuck the ratios, check the signups. Ratios mean shit.

advertiser · 09-10-2003, 11:40 PM

2003-09-10 5203 12 $420 1:433
Just tgp and picpost
being a lazy fuck i only submit to a few LARGE tgp.

I dont care about the clicks just the bling bling

Cheers

sexyavs · 09-10-2003, 11:47 PM

Nasty dollars is still the best..

You wanna get some funny numbers back try sending to a few more programs.. Im pretty happy with their count and their conversions are awesome for me..

And if you send over 200 signups in a period they pay you $40.00

nobody converts as well....and I would bet money on that!

Your complaining about unique ratio? You get paid on clicks or signups?

Chris

CarolCox · 09-11-2003, 12:31 AM

I've been in this game a long, long time. Even before there were advertising programs!

I have to say that in all my time, I have never had a program work as well as the Nasty Dollars one. I don't care about clicks, I don't care about conversions, I care about the numbers printed on the check! That's all that matters!

Nasty Dollars is one of the few programs where I don't even check the stats. I know it works for me, and that there will be a lot of numbers on the checks I receive

If you want to get involved with pay-per-signup programs, don't even look at the stats. Just look at what you are getting paid, as that's all that matters.

Carol Cox

Donnie Gangsta · 09-11-2003, 01:26 AM

i got like 50 ND joins today barely sending traffic.. i dabble around with them sometimes... they only count like 30% of clicks though, so maybe it's only 2nd page or join page..

Cash · 09-11-2003, 06:30 AM

I'd be cautious about ND, lots of people complained about not being paid by them. It could happen to you as well.

FuqALot · 09-11-2003, 06:42 AM

Great program. I still use them.
But I'm pretty sure they somehow changed their way of counting hits a week or so ago.

AbeFroman · 09-11-2003, 06:47 AM

who cares what they say you sent. I've only had a few advertisers who I ever thought were counting accurately. BUT it's a fucking per singup proggie so it dont really fucking matter. Especially since you have what you feel are accurate numbers on your end. The thing with ND is the 12 hour shave. You know where if the join cancels within 12 hours you dont get the 35 beans. But alot of people do better with ND so they must have a decent members site. I use them. As of late I've been less happy but fuck who hasn't. Poor choice of thread titles dipwad.

Mr.Fiction · 09-11-2003, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarolCox

I have to say that in all my time, I have never had a program work as well as the Nasty Dollars one. I don't care about clicks, I don't care about conversions, I care about the numbers printed on the check!

Carol Cox

Fabien · 09-11-2003, 06:50 AM

Signups TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

plsureking · 09-11-2003, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AbeFroman
who cares what they say you sent. I've only had a few advertisers who I ever thought were counting accurately. BUT it's a fucking per singup proggie so it dont really fucking matter. ... Poor choice of thread titles dipwad.

it matters because numbers matter. if you don't know that you're not making as much as you should be. there's a lot of programs out there. why waste time and traffic with one that shaves or has bad numbers?

Lonny · 09-11-2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
I'd be cautious about ND, lots of people complained about not being paid by them. It could happen to you as well.

I agree with you their....

Rich · 09-11-2003, 09:30 AM

"i've had accurate counting all over the web with everyone else's system", that line leads me to believe you're bullshitting us, although I have no idea why. 90%+ of all programs shave clicks. Plus ND shaves a lot more than 50% of them.

dougeetx · 09-11-2003, 09:31 AM

Nasty Dollars is kewl. I always get paid on time. I like Gigacash better, though. I get a higher conversion with them.

plsureking · 09-11-2003, 09:42 AM

well i just found out that their trials rebill at 39.95 a month while their monthly membership is 24.95. it is stated in small type of course. On of my visitors pointed it out to me.

thats crooked as shit. all you fuckers saying they are great are crooked as shit too. if you're sending traffic to them you are misleading your visitors.

they won't get any more of my traffic. i'd like to stay in business...

Rich · 09-11-2003, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking
well i just found out that their trials rebill at 39.95 a month while their monthly membership is 24.95. it is stated in small type of course. On of my visitors pointed it out to me.

thats crooked as shit. all you fuckers saying they are great are crooked as shit too. if you're sending traffic to them you are misleading your visitors.

they won't get any more of my traffic. i'd like to stay in business...

What's misleading about giving a price break for buying in bulk? Offering a deal for buying 30 days up front instead of 3 isn't crooked jackass. I'm not a huge ND supporter but there's nothing wrong with that.

plsureking · 09-11-2003, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

What's misleading about giving a price break for buying in bulk? Offering a deal for buying 30 days up front instead of 3 isn't crooked jackass. I'm not a huge ND supporter but there's nothing wrong with that.

nothing wrong with a break if its stated clearly, and not in fine print at the bottom of the page "jackass". we give breaks but we don't mislead our customers.

jimmyf · 09-11-2003, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
maybe they're just doing this to YOU?

Matt 26z · 09-11-2003, 10:53 AM

I've always wondered why some sponsors track 2nd or join page hits only. What is the motive for this? I've got an idea, and it's pretty sharp.

Johny Traffic · 09-11-2003, 10:54 AM

Nasty dollars was the first site I made decent money with, years ago I used to submit two galleries a day to sublime (guaranteed listing), on a free host with their banners and content and made sales everyday, then they only had one site (nastyfetish). It was my first real break through, but I think those days are gone with all sponsors

jimmyf · 09-11-2003, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by plsureking

it matters because numbers matter. if you don't know that you're not making as much as you should be. there's a lot of programs out there. why waste time and traffic with one that shaves or has bad numbers?

this is correct

Doctor Dre · 09-11-2003, 10:56 AM

Depends how they count their click

09-10-2003, 09:33 PM	#1
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,763	nasty dollars is crooked?? looking for info. i run some model sites but i also do a lot of affiliate shit. I ran across one of nasty dollars' sites - allamateurmovies - and liked it. I joined as a member and still liked it so i signed up to do affiliate work. we run an ezine with over a half a mil qualified (says me hehe) uniques and a top list with 35k uniques a day. they send a shitload of hits to the banners i run. i've run affiliate banners for sites all over the place and made great money. When i ran a nastydollars banner on my ezine, my banner system (which is audited) counted clicks like this: 9-9-2003: 314 9-10-2003: 323 theirs counted like this: 9-9-2003: 120 9-10-2003: 135 i've had accurate counting all over the web with everyone else's system. so i'm asking, what the fuck is up with these bastards at nasty dollars? do they fuck everybody equally? __________________ #

09-10-2003, 09:35 PM	#2
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Well, if 3:1 is tour page to join page ratio, then they must be counting join page or second page clicks. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

09-10-2003, 09:38 PM	#3
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	I think nastydollars counts like second or join page hits __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

09-10-2003, 09:39 PM	#4
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	thats not called 'getting fucked' unless its a pay-per-click program __________________

09-10-2003, 09:39 PM	#5
MuleScrote Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,601	They run a tight ship in my opinion __________________ ICQ 78681003

09-10-2003, 09:42 PM	#6
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,763	could their join page really be that unappealing? the only site i've promoted that performed worse was jenna's. i pushed her site when she was doing the whole o'reilly business. got 500-600 clicks a day and 4 signups in a week. i can send them. everything else is up to the guys running the program.. __________________ #

09-10-2003, 09:43 PM	#7
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09-10-2003, 09:46 PM	#9
garce Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,103	Maybe you could ask them? They've always replied promptly to me (yay I'm special), and with that much traffic I'm sure you could work something out with them. The click throughs seem kinda low for the amount of uniques you have, no matter how they're counting them. As for me, conversions and hit counts have been consistant over the last few years. garce

09-10-2003, 09:48 PM	#10
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,763	thanks for the info guys. i'll take it up with them. they claim to pay $35 per signup. maybe i'll send some more traffic this weekend. my surfers get tired of our stuff, so i look for good programs. ftvgirls converts like a mofo though! hot tip... __________________ #

09-10-2003, 09:54 PM	#11
garce Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,103	They DO pay $35 per signup. I won't say they count every signup , but I've never had a problem with the bottom line. garce

09-10-2003, 09:56 PM	#12
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,763	i'm laughing man. what do you mean they don't count every signup? you talking about chargebacks/refunds or something else? __________________ #

09-10-2003, 10:17 PM	#13
garce Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,103	I'm sure they credit every signup that their software tracks. I have nothing bad to say about ND - I think its a primo proggy and they are one of the few places I've recommended friends sign up to. You get a lot of goodness for your dollar. Just try getting in touch with them, tell them what you have to offer. garce

09-10-2003, 10:19 PM	#14
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,763	yeah i emailed them. they must be sleeping! wtf?? hehe. thanks. __________________ #

09-10-2003, 10:22 PM	#15
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	maybe they're just doing this to YOU? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

09-10-2003, 10:36 PM	#19
Lonny Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Riverside Ca. Posts: 3,539	they acused me of fraud about a month ago or so, only to have my account reactivated after 6 days with 3 signus lost from them. oh well theirs other sponser out their that pay better. __________________ crakrevenue

09-10-2003, 11:17 PM	#22
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	Anyone who knows their own traffic will quickly know who is shaving. This topic and Nasty$ has been talked about before, why do you think alot of their webmasters promote our sites ? Cuz' we don't need to shave, we pay out what we can afford to pay out Real Time Stats and more, webmasters who know their traffic will see a huge difference with us

09-10-2003, 11:35 PM	#23
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	It's pretty standard. 3 years ago, 1:500 on the first page was standard later it was 1:500 on second page and someday it will be 1:500 on signup page Bottomline is fuck the ratios, check the signups. Ratios mean shit.

09-10-2003, 11:40 PM	#24
advertiser Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mensa Posts: 457	2003-09-10 5203 12 $420 1:433 Just tgp and picpost being a lazy fuck i only submit to a few LARGE tgp. I dont care about the clicks just the bling bling Cheers

09-10-2003, 11:47 PM	#25
sexyavs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 615	Nasty dollars is still the best.. You wanna get some funny numbers back try sending to a few more programs.. Im pretty happy with their count and their conversions are awesome for me.. And if you send over 200 signups in a period they pay you $40.00 nobody converts as well....and I would bet money on that! Your complaining about unique ratio? You get paid on clicks or signups? Chris __________________ <br> <a href="http://www.sexypassport.com/webmaster/webmaster.php?siteid=752359">Join the Highest Paying FREE AVS. </a><br> <a href="http://nakedpass.com/webmaster/webmaster.php">Naked Pass New FREE Avs Also Pays $20.00 Per FREE Signup!! </a><br> Have you checked out <a href="http://makefuckingmoney.com">Make Fucking Money!</a> Get Paid on FREE Memberships!

09-11-2003, 12:31 AM	#26
CarolCox The Original WebGirl! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Green Valley, ON, CA Posts: 325	I've been in this game a long, long time. Even before there were advertising programs! I have to say that in all my time, I have never had a program work as well as the Nasty Dollars one. I don't care about clicks, I don't care about conversions, I care about the numbers printed on the check! That's all that matters! Nasty Dollars is one of the few programs where I don't even check the stats. I know it works for me, and that there will be a lot of numbers on the checks I receive If you want to get involved with pay-per-signup programs, don't even look at the stats. Just look at what you are getting paid, as that's all that matters. Carol Cox __________________ ~~ iAmateurs.net - the original amateur partnership program ~~ ~~ promote Carol Cox - The Original Internet Amateur ~~ ~~ promote 32 other unique Internet Amateurs ~~

09-11-2003, 01:26 AM	#27
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	i got like 50 ND joins today barely sending traffic.. i dabble around with them sometimes... they only count like 30% of clicks though, so maybe it's only 2nd page or join page..

09-11-2003, 06:30 AM	#28
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09-11-2003, 06:42 AM	#29
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	Great program. I still use them. But I'm pretty sure they somehow changed their way of counting hits a week or so ago.

09-11-2003, 06:47 AM	#30
AbeFroman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 220	who cares what they say you sent. I've only had a few advertisers who I ever thought were counting accurately. BUT it's a fucking per singup proggie so it dont really fucking matter. Especially since you have what you feel are accurate numbers on your end. The thing with ND is the 12 hour shave. You know where if the join cancels within 12 hours you dont get the 35 beans. But alot of people do better with ND so they must have a decent members site. I use them. As of late I've been less happy but fuck who hasn't. Poor choice of thread titles dipwad.

09-11-2003, 06:50 AM	#32
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	Signups TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-11-2003, 09:30 AM	#35
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	"i've had accurate counting all over the web with everyone else's system", that line leads me to believe you're bullshitting us, although I have no idea why. 90%+ of all programs shave clicks. Plus ND shaves a lot more than 50% of them.

09-11-2003, 09:31 AM	#36
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09-11-2003, 09:42 AM	#37
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,763	well i just found out that their trials rebill at 39.95 a month while their monthly membership is 24.95. it is stated in small type of course. On of my visitors pointed it out to me. thats crooked as shit. all you fuckers saying they are great are crooked as shit too. if you're sending traffic to them you are misleading your visitors. they won't get any more of my traffic. i'd like to stay in business... __________________ #

09-11-2003, 10:53 AM	#41
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I've always wondered why some sponsors track 2nd or join page hits only. What is the motive for this? I've got an idea, and it's pretty sharp.

09-11-2003, 10:54 AM	#42
Johny Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,461	Nasty dollars was the first site I made decent money with, years ago I used to submit two galleries a day to sublime (guaranteed listing), on a free host with their banners and content and made sales everyday, then they only had one site (nastyfetish). It was my first real break through, but I think those days are gone with all sponsors __________________ hosted flv's, hosted galleries, morphing rss feeds, free content, free sites, hosted blog