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11-14-2002, 02:15 PM

Content is so cheap...all these pay sites using non-exclusive content should have at least 100,000 pics in their members areas. Instead it seems like most of them have about 1,000.

I can see having 1,000 pics and a bunch of videos if your content was exclusive and the videos were NICE...something like Sweet Cuties site...but these sites trying to do the same thing with overused non-exclusive content are idiots.
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11-14-2002, 02:15 PM

oh shit,, someone must of died and made Pr0 the designated members area reviewer
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11-14-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Undutchable
I totally agree with pr0

Most paysites are fucking horrible! These stupid half assed webmasters who produce these should punched in the fucking face with a sledgehammer!

Goddamn morons, this is pissing me off, no wonder surfers are getting tired of this shit

(disclaimer: not talking about all paysites, there are those that *are* worth the money and do know what they're doing...)

I wanna say THANK YOU to all those webmasters...

You make MY members appreciate MY sites and STAY instead of hopping around YOUR sites...

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11-14-2002, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Lenny2
I agree that sites that produce their own original content do convert and retain better......BUT

Just because something is a plug in doesn't mean it sucks.

Pornholio, Igallery, Webmastercentral, DJ Productions, Sexentertain, Freshwebmastercontent, Webmasterparadise, etc etc etc all have very very good content.
Just because YOU have seen it before doesn't mean the surfers have, and just because another paysite has it, doesn't mean the members aren't doing the 5 knuckle shuffle to it every day.

plug in feeds were fine 5-7 years ago, but now its just crap.
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11-14-2002, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Lexxx

I wanna say THANK YOU to all those webmasters...

You make MY members appreciate MY sites and STAY instead of hopping around YOUR sites...

Good point. It would help if they would all also link to me from their member's areas, though... You know, thats gotta be happening a lot. With how bad so many sites are, I wonder how many paysites are really about the upsell these days, like AVS sites are. Scary thought. Crap as business model.

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11-14-2002, 02:26 PM

Talk is cheap .... and if there is a webmaster here that is going to steal your content he is going to find a way to do it anyhow. If someone really wants it they may even pay the trial membership fee.

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11-14-2002, 02:44 PM

I love the homegrown sites that girls put up of themselves. True amateur stuff of them getting nasty. No plug ins that are over used just them and some friends.

I think it all comes down to how much porn do you think the surfer needs to get off. He hits the TGP or what ever and then buys a membership and he is off in an hour tops I think. Try and think how much time someone sits there looking at porn to get off. Not much I would think.

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11-14-2002, 02:46 PM

pr0, you probably missed ours in the list then ;)

let me know, nothing to hide ;)

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11-14-2002, 02:54 PM

Ive seen quite a few paysites too, and most every one seems to just have content links, and that's it. If you've been to one you've been to them all...

At Homegrownvideo.com, we update our site 3 times a DAY, with all exclusive content.

We aren't just another cookie cutter gateway site to content links like so many others.

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11-14-2002, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by magnatique
pr0, you probably missed ours in the list then ;)

let me know, nothing to hide ;)

http://gfy:[email protected]/

Now that is a nice site. Better than "Black on Bondes" in my own opinion.
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11-14-2002, 03:11 PM

thanks dude, trying to do our best ;)

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11-14-2002, 03:15 PM

Unfortunately yall are right, there are VERY few kick ass paysites.

One of the stats I'd love to see is who has the longest/best retaining members on thestatistician.com THAT would be some useful ass info if you run paysites yourself or like to promo the recurring cash progs...

Anyone have any source of those stats by any chance?

Reason I'm more interested in some stats is that everyone's opinion on what kicks ass and what doesn't (esp being webmasters) is totally 'whatever' but the surfer's willingness to stay on and pay, pay pay, is some wicked valuable info...

dat's what I be wantin' to see if any of yall have it...

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11-14-2002, 03:36 PM

Magnatique, your member area needs a little more personality. Not design, or any huge changes... I just mean a voice. Add some text to things like the movie scene pages and so forth, draw people in and they will be more satisfied.

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11-14-2002, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by magnatique
pr0, you probably missed ours in the list then ;)

let me know, nothing to hide ;)

http://gfy:[email protected]/

God damn... the movies quality is really nice

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11-14-2002, 04:43 PM

gothweb, you know what... you are totally right...

I'll be changing that in a few days

Lexx, click on the link on my signature

seems like more than 20 people accessed the member's area within 2 hours hehe.. script blocked access... changing that so you guys have access for a little longer

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11-14-2002, 06:16 PM

Ok guys im going to review in a few moments....those that sent the passes via e-mail i'll get to after that.

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11-14-2002, 06:23 PM

Blood-Dolls looks great...& zexyteens has a ton of content, didn't check out the video's but the amount of models is pretty decent.

Glad theres a couple site's out here worth looking at.

Too bad more people didn't post test logins...i think alot of you are ashamed of your horrible members area. Tssk Tssk....

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11-14-2002, 06:44 PM

What's your personal favourite porn site pr0?
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11-14-2002, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Socks
What's your personal favourite porn site pr0?

farmanimalsex.com

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11-14-2002, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Socks
What's your personal favourite porn site pr0?

Rough , you guys gave me a shitty review

Jesus I got a 18/20 for originality

but you give this one a 20/20 for originality.... http://www.adultsitesurfer.com/Revie...rls/index.html .... you guys are

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11-14-2002, 07:38 PM

Sorry didnt mean to rant , first time I saw the review. I saw your sig and forgot that I submitted my site to be reviewed and realized that I never heard back so I figured it didnt get reviewed.

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11-14-2002, 07:43 PM

Pr0 ohhhh hoooo PICK MINE PICK MINE
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11-14-2002, 07:43 PM

You think content is saturated? Then just start pushing different types of sites, like Gay and Beast.

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11-14-2002, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by x3guide

got over 1000 listed on my site, probably the most complete list you'll see anywhere

first time i every checked out a site that judges paysites before. you gave me a great review, so i'm happy

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11-14-2002, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by va2k
Pr0 ohhhh hoooo PICK MINE PICK MINE

You got the montel williams show starring yourself in va2k...that wins huge originality points. As well as plenty of porn starring yourself,...even more points.

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11-14-2002, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by pr0

You got the montel williams show starring yourself in va2k...that wins huge originality points. As well as plenty of porn starring yourself,...even more points.

O Jesus tell me you were on Montel........

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11-14-2002, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by pr0
Blood-Dolls looks great... (snip_

Glad theres a couple site's out here worth looking at.

Too bad more people didn't post test logins...i think alot of you are ashamed of your horrible members area. Tssk Tssk....

I am glad you like Blood Dolls. I try to make it something I can be proud of.

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11-14-2002, 10:08 PM

As long as the tgp gallery makers promote crap sites that put all their money in revshare program and not into content.

And steal the content from the good sites to use on the galleries.
The tgps will be real good ......

An ironic evolution that promotes scam and ultimately .....what?

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11-14-2002, 10:14 PM

Yeah, a lot of sites suck out there, it's true. Some folks are into making that initial sale and forget about the importance of membership retention.

But that makes it good if you got a bomb ass site out there b/c members will appreciate your sites better.

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11-14-2002, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by quiet

first time i every checked out a site that judges paysites before. you gave me a great review, so i'm happy

Cool.. Can update it (+ send some more signups too probably) if you set up a temp. pass

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11-14-2002, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Rory
http://www.cumkaraoke.com/members

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Getting posted on too many boards now :

http://ubb.outkast.com/cgi-bin/ultim...c;f=3;t=003916 ..........

Turning them off, hope everyone got a chance to check it out. If you didnt get in and want a pass hit me on icq at 5220296 and Ill be glad to set ya up.

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11-15-2002, 03:01 AM

Originally posted by Rory

O Jesus tell me you were on Montel........
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11-15-2002, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by va2k

O god you have to send me a link ... 5220296

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11-15-2002, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by archer
I'm really glad pr0 started this thread.

I took a quick look at most of the gay on that list and was appalled at the members sections of most.

Most of the smaller ones were essentially fronts for leased galleries with a few photsets and vids thrown into the mix.

is that what it's like on the straight side?

no wonder chargebacks(legitimate) ones happen. If i signed up on the basis of a good tour and then the members' section of some of these sites, i'd chargeback too.

I did the same thing for the BBW sites. I had to wake my husband up at 3am because I needed somebody to assure me that no, I wasn't on crack, that the members areas of these sites DID suck that bad. There was a fat chick who started out the photo set in a muumuu. A MUUMUU, for god's sake.

Why do people start niche sites if they have no fucking idea what a niche surfer wants to see? I agree with archer -- if I joined these sites that I was looking at, I'd charge it back too. I'm starting out with 100% original content, lots of interaction with the members...if the sites I looked at last night are my competition, I'm gonna do just fine.

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11-15-2002, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Rory

Rough , you guys gave me a shitty review

Jesus I got a 18/20 for originality

but you give this one a 20/20 for originality.... http://www.adultsitesurfer.com/Revie...rls/index.html .... you guys are

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11-15-2002, 11:19 AM

Building traffic is fairly easy, building avs's & gallerys is a simple process...but for fucks sake, if you're going to start a paysite do something original. Captivate your viewers with content that leaps off the screen. Make your members area interactive, even hire a guy to do weekly updates.

Ask your members what they want, & actually come through on some of the requests. I can tell you right now a happy porn surfer with a membership to a site that updates weekly with shit he loves...will stay for fucking MONTHS not days.

So to all you newbies looking to start a paysite, do it because you like it...because if you don't...it will show & barring some unexplained phenomenon you will lose abunch of money.

Don't sell out for a quick couple grand

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11-15-2002, 11:28 AM

I'll put my two flagship sites up for your review. I think they both stand very well on their own

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11-15-2002, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I'll put my two flagship sites up for your review. I think they both stand very well on their own

Lightspeed University Cheerleaders
http://gfymembers:testuser@<a href="...om/members</a>

Lightspeed Sorority
http://gfymembers:testuser@<a href="...om/members</a>

I jerked off to a set of your content earlier today, it was tawnee & some red haired (irish looking) chick

Where you guys find these sweet looking girls is beyond me, but please...keep doing it.

Actually i didn't jerk it, but came close...heres the gallery i just found it...

http://www.pinkpussy.com.ar/lsjr20/index12.html

God that red haired chick drives me fuckin nuts

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11-15-2002, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Socks

What site do you run? DDGirls is a great site bro.

I was just ranting , sorry. I run http://www.cumkaraoke.com and thought for sure I would at least pull through with some originality points lol. I didnt mean that DD was a bad site at all ... it just seems that it was a playboy style which IMO isnt originality.

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11-15-2002, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I'll put my two flagship sites up for your review. I think they both stand very well on their own

Lightspeed University Cheerleaders
http://gfymembers:testuser@<a href="...om/members</a>

Lightspeed Sorority
http://gfymembers:testuser@<a href="...om/members</a>

Wow thats some good shit. Navigation could be a bit more intuitive IMO but

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11-15-2002, 12:05 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...99#post1081599

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11-15-2002, 02:12 PM

Pr0 try to run your own paysite.. hehe..

or promote us (check the sig) or order exclusive content from us

Lightspeed I don?t understand how you sell your sites if all content what you have inside member area is presented in your free galleries?

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11-15-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Master_Yoba
Pr0 try to run your own paysite.. hehe..

I've setup many many paysites with many many gigs of content, so i know the entire process.

And i know that if you don't make it something you love, it won't be shit.

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11-15-2002, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by pr0

And i know that if you don't make it something you love, it won't be shit.

that's true

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11-15-2002, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by Master_Yoba
Lightspeed I don?t understand how you sell your sites if all content what you have inside member area is presented in your free galleries?

Ok, I don't understand how you sell your sites when you show all the pussy and cumshots on the tour....

I'll answer your question with another question: Why does anyone subscribe to Hustler (or any) magazine after they've already got a decent collection? Answer: To get new pics! How many times can you jerk it to the same ol' pics?

Yes we give a lot of our content away for free, but it gives the surfer all that much more reason to come to our sites. How much free surfing do you have to do to find all the good stuff?

food for thought, you do it your way, we'll do it ours....

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11-15-2002, 02:45 PM

Lightspeed, accepted.
Yes, LF sites suck off inside member area. But what?s about retention?

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11-15-2002, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by RATBOY
Anyone ever think of selling a password to a password site for exposure, then blocking that password later? Do it for a week so they can see you do regular updates. Then once they have no more access, they can whip out thier cards?

Bandwidth killer or are you confident enough to say your site is so good they will want to get back in enough to pay for it?

Believe me, things like this are done more often than you may think. It's obvious to me that many sites give password sites a password combo to use as a way of generating interest. And they can always pull the plug later. If you've got content people really want to see, getting them hooked and then closing down the password might entice them to sign up.

Actually, UltraWired and Blacks on Blondes give away tons of content instead of giving out passwords. Either way, it's the same idea. Get them interested enough to feel they need to sign up. It's a marketing ploy.

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11-15-2002, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Rory

I was just ranting , sorry. I run http://www.cumkaraoke.com and thought for sure I would at least pull through with some originality points lol. I didnt mean that DD was a bad site at all ... it just seems that it was a playboy style which IMO isnt originality.

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Nooo problems. I found your site in our database, Max did the review, and yeah we gave it an 80 and I checked another review site that you link to which gave it an 82.. Also in the review it mentioned your site was only 2 weeks old at the time of the review, we'll have a look again sometime soon cool?

As to the ratings, we try to do the reviews more in the body rather than just in the numbers. The numbers are good to go by, but really the reviews are meant to explain to the surfers what we found, what we liked/didn't, whether we think it's worth it, etc. I think this can be done 100x better in the wording of the review.

Also a foot fetish site isn't the same as a balloon fetish site, which isn't the same as a DP gangbang site. The criteria we base the points on is as general as possible so that it functions, but you're right it's a bit silly pitting Bang Bus against Bra Babes! It's not perfect but it works pretty well.

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11-15-2002, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Believe me, things like this are done more often than you may think. It's obvious to me that many sites give password sites a password combo to use as a way of generating interest. And they can always pull the plug later. If you've got content people really want to see, getting them hooked and then closing down the password might entice them to sign up.

Actually, UltraWired and Blacks on Blondes give away tons of content instead of giving out passwords. Either way, it's the same idea. Get them interested enough to feel they need to sign up. It's a marketing ploy.

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11-15-2002, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Believe me, things like this are done more often than you may think. It's obvious to me that many sites give password sites a password combo to use as a way of generating interest. And they can always pull the plug later. If you've got content people really want to see, getting them hooked and then closing down the password might entice them to sign up.

Actually, UltraWired and Blacks on Blondes give away tons of content instead of giving out passwords. Either way, it's the same idea. Get them interested enough to feel they need to sign up. It's a marketing ploy.

Yea but 95% of passes are out because of horrible scripting & security. Not placing any blame on the webmasters, its hard to keep up with the shit sucking russian kids. That & tighter security means less retention, if a user gets his pass turned off for dual login cuz he's got 2 computers on 2 diff ip's...he's gonna fuckin quit.

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