Conversion ratios for TGPs?
What's the average conversion ratio you guys are getting from TGPs lately? I mean for your average paysite advertised on a standard picture gallery...and which TGPs are you submitting to?
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I'm getting 1:268 right now.... subitting to all the big ones :-)Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites... -
*bump* come'on guys...I know you work the TGPs, throw me some numbers.Comment
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I dont create galleries but a few submitters of mine have been saying 1:300 give or take a few recently.Im fuckin retired
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well I'm told that the goal is to sell something to everyone who looks at your gallery or main page.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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No shit? And here I was thinking that the goal was to burn as much bandwidth as you can...Originally posted by SleazyDream
well I'm told that the goal is to sell something to everyone who looks at your gallery or main page.
I'm looking for ratios guys...who's converting at what. I'm not talking about any particular sponsor, just as an average, how are your ratios?
Are they so bad that everyone is too chickenshit to say what they are?
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average 1:low 200s across the board lately, I have seen it as bad as 1:4000 and as good as 1:1007Comment
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If you can convert close to 1:1 you are the manOriginally posted by SleazyDream
well I'm told that the goal is to sell something to everyone who looks at your gallery or main page.
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I think I've heard that too...can't remember from whom...probably a great philosopher...Originally posted by SleazyDream
well I'm told that the goal is to sell something to everyone who looks at your gallery or main page.Comment
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it is... selling bandwidth to surfers, for free.Originally posted by SleazyDream
well I'm told that the goal is to sell something to everyone who looks at your gallery or main page.eventually, earth will lose.
enjoy it while it lasts.
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Magick, conversion ratios don't mean diddly shit, the only thing they're good for is for sponsors to come out and brag about how their dick is bigger because they convert 1 in whatever.....
If I have a gallery with a text link that says "Click Here for a $2.95 3 day trial" its going to have a MUCH MUCH better ratio than if I have a gallery with a text link that says "Click Here for more free pics like these"
One may convert 1 in 50, and the other as bad as 1 in 5000, the only thing that matters is which page made more sales.
When trying to figure out TGP traffic, all I look at is how many sales I make per 100K in gallery traffic.sig too bigComment
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exactlyOriginally posted by Lenny2
Magick, conversion ratios don't mean diddly shit, the only thing they're good for is for sponsors to come out and brag about how their dick is bigger because they convert 1 in whatever.....
If I have a gallery with a text link that says "Click Here for a $2.95 3 day trial" its going to have a MUCH MUCH better ratio than if I have a gallery with a text link that says "Click Here for more free pics like these"
One may convert 1 in 50, and the other as bad as 1 in 5000, the only thing that matters is which page made more sales.
When trying to figure out TGP traffic, all I look at is how many sales I make per 100K in gallery traffic.Comment
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VERY well put! Then let's look at it this way: When you submit a gallery to a TGP, what do you anticipate as your AVERAGE baseline per click goal?Originally posted by Lenny2
Magick, conversion ratios don't mean diddly shit, the only thing they're good for is for sponsors to come out and brag about how their dick is bigger because they convert 1 in whatever.....
If I have a gallery with a text link that says "Click Here for a $2.95 3 day trial" its going to have a MUCH MUCH better ratio than if I have a gallery with a text link that says "Click Here for more free pics like these"
One may convert 1 in 50, and the other as bad as 1 in 5000, the only thing that matters is which page made more sales.
When trying to figure out TGP traffic, all I look at is how many sales I make per 100K in gallery traffic.
Additionally...do you go by your sponsor's stats or do you track outbound clicks? Some sponsors count uniques, some raw, some second page, some join page...obviously this is going to skew your per click value.
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1:3000 gallery visitors, not sponsor clicks is what i can see as one of my better days.
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The fact that sponsors all count clicks differently is exactly why I don't look at clicks.Originally posted by MagicksAntics
VERY well put! Then let's look at it this way: When you submit a gallery to a TGP, what do you anticipate as your AVERAGE baseline per click goal?
Additionally...do you go by your sponsor's stats or do you track outbound clicks? Some sponsors count uniques, some raw, some second page, some join page...obviously this is going to skew your per click value.
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If I were using a per click sponsor I would look at that, but I only get paid on sign ups and rebills, so those are the only "stats" that mean anything to me.sig too bigComment
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If I did a sale per 3 thousand gallery visitors I'd be retired by now....LOLOriginally posted by dikkechill
1:3000 gallery visitors, not sponsor clicks is what i can see as one of my better days.
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Either your galleries click serious ass, or you left off a zero
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So 33 sign-ups per 100,000 visitors to a gallery?Originally posted by dikkechill
1:3000 gallery visitors, not sponsor clicks is what i can see as one of my better days.
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It doesn't mean i get 100k a visitors daily. If you study your traffic well you'll find out what works and you see where you get good traffic and crap traffic. Why would you waste your money on traffic where you don't get sales ?Originally posted by Rictor
So 33 sign-ups per 100,000 visitors to a gallery?
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You didn't pay attention. Clicks mean dick. Ratios mean less. Sales/#visitors to my page is the number that matters.Originally posted by MagicksAntics
VERY well put! Then let's look at it this way: When you submit a gallery to a TGP, what do you anticipate as your AVERAGE baseline per click goal?
Additionally...do you go by your sponsor's stats or do you track outbound clicks? Some sponsors count uniques, some raw, some second page, some join page...obviously this is going to skew your per click value.
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Currently it's about 1:10,000Last edited by Ludedude; 11-14-2002, 04:38 PM.
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you could make more profits. 1:3000 your margins should be great. should be able to make money easy on 1:50k.Originally posted by dikkechill
It doesn't mean i get 100k a visitors daily. If you study your traffic well you'll find out what works and you see where you get good traffic and crap traffic. Why would you waste your money on traffic where you don't get sales ?
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1:180 to about 1:1100 ... guess it depends on the gallery. The Big TGPs.Comment
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Interesting concept...you're looking at ratios, just from a different angle.Originally posted by Ludedude
You didn't pay attention. Clicks mean dick. Ratios mean less. Sales/#visitors to my page is the number that matters.
Currently it's about 1:10,000
You are basing success on conversions::traffic to your page, vs conversions::traffic to your sponsors.
Surprisingly, it makes quite a bit of sense. But don't you believe that variables like the type of ads, layout, and text make a difference as well? I know for a fact that the method of advertising can make a -huge- difference on the number of joins you can achieve. I've seen page layouts and ad changes double the amount of income from the same amount of traffic.
If the conversions:traffic to your page theory is correct, then how can that be possible?Comment
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thats the most accurate way to determine if a gallery page is working better than another gallery page.Originally posted by MagicksAntics
Interesting concept...you're looking at ratios, just from a different angle.
You are basing success on conversions::traffic to your page, vs conversions::traffic to your sponsors.
Surprisingly, it makes quite a bit of sense. But don't you believe that variables like the type of ads, layout, and text make a difference as well? I know for a fact that the method of advertising can make a -huge- difference on the number of joins you can achieve. I've seen page layouts and ad changes double the amount of income from the same amount of traffic.
If the conversions:traffic to your page theory is correct, then how can that be possible?
if you change the gallery and you make double the sales, your ratio will go from say 1:100k impressions to 1:50k.Comment
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I have a related question but from a different angle.
With the main TGP's, which type of program do you find earns the most and is the most cost effective to advertise:
pay per paid trial s/u,
pay per free trial,
email program/pay per,
rev share/percentage program
...I'm not asking which sponsor, but what type of program have you found works the best with your galleries?Adult Business Consultant since 1995
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Ambergirl, how ya doing babe? Will I be seeing you at Cybernet? Hit me up on icq later...
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Originally posted by MagicksAntics
Interesting concept...you're looking at ratios, just from a different angle.
You are basing success on conversions::traffic to your page, vs conversions::traffic to your sponsors.
Surprisingly, it makes quite a bit of sense. But don't you believe that variables like the type of ads, layout, and text make a difference as well? I know for a fact that the method of advertising can make a -huge- difference on the number of joins you can achieve. I've seen page layouts and ad changes double the amount of income from the same amount of traffic.
If the conversions:traffic to your page theory is correct, then how can that be possible?
Magick I don't quite understand what you're asking there, maybe you can ask the question a different way and see if it seeps through this thick skull of mine.
Ambergirl, I don't really look for a "program type" to use on galleries. I find a "site" that I know I can sell, and then I take what they're offering.
I have an amateur sponsor that only offers revshare, so I take that. I have a big tit sponsor that only offers per sign up, so I take that, I have another sponsor that offers free trials and pays per active, so I take that.
To me its all about whether or not I can sell the site. What good is 8 billion dollars a sign up if you never get a sign up? Or 150% recurring if you can't get anyone to join?
If the sponsor has more than one option for a site I want to promote (pps, recurring, etc) I usually opt for the recurring.sig too bigComment
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