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#51 | |
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About a year and half ago I tried to code a dynamically interactive rating system on a per page basis (thinking browser wars over now and rating systems mature). In other words - the users of my site could rate the page according to ICRA.org and some pages would show and some would not depending on the personal setting in the web brower. The PROBLEM was the "politics" of the rating system (IMO) AND the web browser was buggy in doing what it was supposed to do. I eventually rated SexEducation.com with THE HIGHEST EXTREME CONTENT possible ... so entering any password ... any password disables SexEducation.com completely. In fact you have to reboot in order to test it. Part of the problem with rating systems in the early days was the damn browsers would not work with them. Same thing with cookies and Microsoft INSTANTLY changing the date format. IMO - if you haven't done due dillegence and rated your page - you're a target for litigation of some type - especially if you show aroused genitals or reproductive bodily fluids on your directly accessed domain name. You can't have it both ways. Hardcore AND not rated - "risk management" as learned right here on GFY ...lol Rate your page it's simple and it's easy. And if you think about it. A website that has taken the time to rate it's page - would it not be more likely to contain the information it says - think Google algorithms now. A few of my thoughts. SexEducation.com has been rated for several years ... |
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#52 |
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Ther are also Now server side labeling instead of doing one page you can rate your whole server on both IIS and apache.
SO now you dont even have to change individual pages you just slap code into yoru config and your whole box is protected against people with the filter on.. THAT KICKS ASS !!!! get to it people |
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What is the easiest way of installing a ICRA label? shit looks complicating....
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i just rated a domain with it
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they should make a windows application, i bet the amount of sites that use icra rating would go many times up
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I like ICRA. Before it was called that, it was RSACi (or something like that). It's been around forever, and is a serious step we can take to protect minors. Anyone who doesn't is taking a needless risk.
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ICRA is very easy to do, I have it on my sites. It has no effect on sales.
You put a configuration in Apache to add the header to every page; you don't change the content itself. You'd have to be a moron to be against this. First, people with young kids DO want their kids to be able to explore on their own. You cannot sit with a child 24X7. A reasonable parent will get their kids a content filtering setup and keep an eye on things but maybe not every second. Second, besides the fact that I actually DO want to block my site from kids, its a great legal defense that you took positive steps to block your site from children. Personally, I would not want to stand in front of a jury and have to explain that I couldn't be bothered to do something that would take me maybe 10 minutes, or that I didn't want to because I was afraid I would loose some sales. |
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#61 | |
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all good points. you do lose a small amount of sales in my opinion, because surfers at work sometimes cannot get to your sites because their employers use content filtering to keep them off porn sites. but, it's the RIGHT THING TO DO if you are serious about taking proactive steps to keep kids off your sites. and there is another side benefit that protects the webmaster: no court will ever be able to say you are deliberately trying to entice kids to your sites with a "misleading domain" if you label your sites. it's good for the kids, and good for business overall.
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That's my monthly bump.. http://www.icra.org/ http://www.icra.org/_en/faq/server/ There is still too many sites without the label ![]() |
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props to you as a big name for bringing attention to this service again... have used it loads in the past, wish more would use it now... clearly by not using it (and other similiar services) we scream at law-makers to police our industry for us...
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Bumping this for the Newbs or people who still have not gotten with the program
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Lars,
I have had the ICRA tag on my sites since day one. I figure with this business located in the conservative midwest and having a warning page too, will protect me from most of the fallout that might happen as I am taking a proactive approach in protecting those that shouldn't be looking at our sites. Thanks for bumping the thread! ![]()
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yes we're labeled with icra
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added to our sites
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#69 | |
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exactly correct. i've used ICRA on all my sites for about 2 years now. you do lose a small amount of traffic, and your total sales may suffer very slightly due to many corporate environments having filtering turned on by default so workers cannot surf smut while on the clock---but the savings in B/W from surfers who cannot buy your product anyway probably makes the loss a wash. (13 year old boys don't have credit cards, and they are unquestionably surfing porn sites) as this poster suggests (correctly) it is the responsible thing to do, and because it's the RIGHT thing to do any argument against it is moot. no one who uses IRCA can be accused of violating the "missleading domain law" and it does show a proactive approach to keeping minors off your sites. |
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Bump for an important topic
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This is a great way to self regulate the industry shows you care and that you are on it !
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post here if you honor people by posting here if you use this great tool to protect people !
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#73 | |
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SexEducation.com has had the HIGHEST rating for sex, violence and language at ICRA.org for I think 7 years now. Just entering a password into a web browser will disable the domain completely. If you haven't rated your site with ICRA.org - and in considersation of the NEW 2257 - jail time. You go to now - period. And if you post "aroused genitals or reproductive fluids on any directly accessed domain name" - the international internet community - finds it OBSCENE - jail. |
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#74 |
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Interesting ...
this is an old thread. I wish GFY would reactivate my search function. |
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I wonder if some day a service pack will turn on irca filter by default and you will have to turn it off to view adult materials.
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This is a great thread and needs to be looked at by everyone !
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Reallly no one else has any input into this important tool fo keeping minors out of sites ?
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ICRA has been on all of our sites.....for years now.
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We have had them up from day one.
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#80 |
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I labelled all my sites.
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I am glasd to see that this tool is being used.
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I had done this for some client sites, but thanks to this thread I was reminded to do it for my own.
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Good thread, I'm also using it on most (if not all) of my adult domains
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Yes and we are very much about making sure our 2257 is always on top of it as a matter of fact we have been called the toughest on the net when it comes to 2257 complience for our webcam models ! 2 forms of color ID on every model, and if there is ever even the slightest doubt I tell my staff to not let the models on !
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our 2257's are spotless
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This sounds like a great thing here!
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Yes this is an easy way for the adult community to do its part and show it cares. |
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This topic is more important than 2257 and .xxx
it portects kids much better than both of those things. |
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After careful thought, I'm doing this today. Given the prospect of mandatory .xxx on the horizon, this is certainly a lot better alternative. Besides, it shouldn't hurt sales at all - someone who is going to be surfing to a sponsor's site and purchasing a membership will not have child-level filtering settings in place. The kind of people who buy anyway are adults, not 12 year old kids. This just makes sense, and is responsible self-regulation.
Lars, thanks for posting this. This goes to show that the industry can be responsible, and do more to keep porn away from kids and those who do not wish to see it more than 2257 or .xxx ever could.
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I can't find any good reason not to do this, unless your site makes money by popup traffic, and even then, is it really worth it to shove popup banners down the throats of kids?
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I have thousands of small sites within my domains. Do I have to label them all? Can I just label the root domain? Thanks
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I've been using it on all my sites for years.
It's the only thing we should really have to do with our adult sites - parents and guardians should not leave loaded guns (unfiltered Internet) for kids to play with. -Dino |
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Another Bump for a great tool
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fuck it... anything to keep uncle sam off your back has gotta have some positives... preventive measures my friend... preventive measures
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Parents should NOT let their children surf the internet unsupervised under any circumstance. Filters, ICRA or what ever they may use does not replace an attentive responsible parent.
The fact of the matter is that as long as parents have someone else to blame for their inability to be a responsible parent, then that is exactly what they will do. Unfortunately our industry is standing in the front of the blame line, when in reality tits and ass never hurt any child. Double penetration and tranny sex may twist the little heathen up a bit, but if the parent were sitting by his/her side it would never happen in the first place. Get your filters or what ever helps you sleep at night but in the end, it's all about parenting. |
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If with all the info we have to get on a model and she STILL turns out to be a minor... 2257 is not protecting anyone. |
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WOJ should be coming any time now....
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