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[Labret] · 08-02-2003, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
you'd equate anal sex and blowjobs with rape?

The first two, would be consensual acts.... rape isn't consensual.
there is your distinction.

No, I equate illegal acts with illegal acts. As that is your primary concern is it not? Rape and beast are illegal so there should be no websites. Shit eating is not "natural" so they should not be allowed either. Taking a 14 inch cock in your ass is not natural.

Show me a website with women actually being raped.

Edit. re-read. So now its not a legal issue, its a consent issue?

NewView · 08-03-2003, 03:32 AM

Geez... Did not expect that you start talking about fantasies and so on on this issue.

Seems te be that there are a lot of different opions on: How to run a decent PORN website without being a crook.

Are all the online pornsites not online for one reason: Making money out of it?

Who put the kiddy-shit into this topic?

Get back to the nature of this topic and forget all the regulations in your own state/country.

Visa is not paying attention to that also.

whitey · 08-03-2003, 04:29 AM

Everyone seems to be forgetting (although pointed out by a few insightful posters)

1. Visa is a private company. They can choose not to do business with anyone they so choose. Claiming they are discriminating against you is like claiming the Hun discriminates against you because he won't list certain types of galleries. Get a life.

2. Visa is not a monopoly. They provide a form of payment. By and large, cash, checks, barter, other charge companies, and other forms of payment, when taken togehter, dwarf Visa's share of the payment processing industry. Forget it folks, Visa to paying my bills is nowehere near Microsoft to running my computer.

3. Visa is not an extension of any government, thus, they cannot censor. They just choose not to do business with some of us.

4. Whole fucking industires, very large ones, exist without ever taking a visa card. They do very fine, thank you.

If you want to offer content featuring people shitting on horses while they fuck their girlfriends, be prepared to think outside of the box on your payment solutions, because there are not alot of people that want to do business with you. That, in and of itself, is a significant business advantage if you know how to use it.

And, btw, this has nothing to do with any particular country. By and large, most countries are far more restrictive on acceptable content than the US, for example (I have had this tiresome argument far to often. Just because it is ok to show tits on a Fench beach does not mean the Spanish are friendly to dog fucking). It is just one fucking company deciding what they want to process for. If you wish to offer content that they choose not to process, find another way to get paid.

lexr · 08-03-2003, 11:34 AM

Re-read my post about Visa being a private corporation on page 2 of this thread.

That point is still being missed it seems.

wargames · 08-03-2003, 11:38 AM

visa sucks

directfiesta · 08-03-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

[i] whitey

And, btw, this has nothing to do with any particular country. By and large, most countries are far more restrictive on acceptable content than the US, for example (I have had this tiresome argument far to often.[/B]

Don't understand why you guys always bring that back to the US!
We are not talking about VISA US here, but VISA International. So stop looking at your belly button constantly.

And since you brought it up, All Europe, aside from the anglo-saxons countries, are way more permessive than the US and each of their local sheriff's. Ask Steiner ( Max Hardcore) about that.

Quote:

[i] whitey

Just because it is ok to show tits on a Fench beach does not mean the Spanish are friendly to dog fucking). It is just one fucking company deciding what they want to process for. If you wish to offer content that they choose not to process, find another way to get paid. [/B]

FYI, Beast is legal-tolarated in France and Spain ( I really don't uinderstand your rant...). It is also legal in Italy, Holland and probably other countries.

The point of this thread is to focus on the fact that a private company, which holds a major part of the processing possibilities, can decide not to supply services to a legitimate business.

So if one day there is a political canditate who is not " proper", they could decide to prevent him from using VISA to raise funds for a political campaign...

prostock · 08-03-2003, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
And Visa is not the government. They're a private business who can decide with whom and where they want to do business... just as you are a private business who can decide with whom and where you want to do business.

So if you don't like what Visa decides is good for its bottom line, then quit bitching and take your business elsewhere.
There are plenty of other ways to take a surfer's money, NO ONE is forcing you to use Visa.

wel look at the damn sig you have , if you not like the fact no one spoke out and and not like what they are doing get the fuck out ,
and you are wrong with what you said on a few things ,
those sites are a kind of porn that is a fetish , we dont have to like or agree with others like , but the stuff must sel and sell well tehre is alot of it around , i not care for fisting sites , but that is me i am not going around upset over it ,
you are right they are not goverment , they are higher , the goverment couldnt do hafe what they are doing , so get a life and think more

NewView · 08-03-2003, 12:47 PM

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So if you don't like what Visa decides is good for its bottom line, then quit bitching and take your business elsewhere.

Don't know your stats but here Visa is 65% of my earnings.

08-03-2003, 11:38 AM	#155
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	visa sucks __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

08-03-2003, 03:32 AM	#152
NewView Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 54	Geez... Did not expect that you start talking about fantasies and so on on this issue. Seems te be that there are a lot of different opions on: How to run a decent PORN website without being a crook. Are all the online pornsites not online for one reason: Making money out of it? Who put the kiddy-shit into this topic? Get back to the nature of this topic and forget all the regulations in your own state/country. Visa is not paying attention to that also.

08-03-2003, 04:29 AM	#153
whitey Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 125	Everyone seems to be forgetting (although pointed out by a few insightful posters) 1. Visa is a private company. They can choose not to do business with anyone they so choose. Claiming they are discriminating against you is like claiming the Hun discriminates against you because he won't list certain types of galleries. Get a life. 2. Visa is not a monopoly. They provide a form of payment. By and large, cash, checks, barter, other charge companies, and other forms of payment, when taken togehter, dwarf Visa's share of the payment processing industry. Forget it folks, Visa to paying my bills is nowehere near Microsoft to running my computer. 3. Visa is not an extension of any government, thus, they cannot censor. They just choose not to do business with some of us. 4. Whole fucking industires, very large ones, exist without ever taking a visa card. They do very fine, thank you. If you want to offer content featuring people shitting on horses while they fuck their girlfriends, be prepared to think outside of the box on your payment solutions, because there are not alot of people that want to do business with you. That, in and of itself, is a significant business advantage if you know how to use it. And, btw, this has nothing to do with any particular country. By and large, most countries are far more restrictive on acceptable content than the US, for example (I have had this tiresome argument far to often. Just because it is ok to show tits on a Fench beach does not mean the Spanish are friendly to dog fucking). It is just one fucking company deciding what they want to process for. If you wish to offer content that they choose not to process, find another way to get paid.

08-03-2003, 11:34 AM	#154
lexr Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 428	Re-read my post about Visa being a private corporation on page 2 of this thread. That point is still being missed it seems.