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Old 07-25-2003, 08:48 PM   #51
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Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
It has nothing to do with patriotism going over to another country and beating the fuck out of them because we can is bullshit i would defend my country if needed but i will never go invade another country that cant touch us if you actually think iraq was a real threat to us then the media and the prez did a nice job branwashing you.
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Old 07-25-2003, 08:50 PM   #52
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i've done my time.... but if i were called upon again i'd do it... sucks being trained to kill someone with your bare hands and not being able to ever do it... disheartening...
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Old 07-25-2003, 09:02 PM   #53
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Sure I'd fight, but only for the right reasons. What possible threat was Afganistan or Iraq to the USA? I mean it's good that you guys did it, I won't disagree with that. But I'd never ever fight a war like that. If there was a clear and present danger to the freedome of my country, or the safety of my friends and family, then I'd fight for sure. Not a war that might possible be about this or that
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Old 07-25-2003, 09:02 PM   #54
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I would join and fight for my country depending on the situation. For example during WWII I would have totaly joined and fought. That was a true good vs. evil fight with the fate of the world at stake.

The wars we've been in lately I'm middle of the road on... while I agree with them to a certain point at the same time I don't trust our leaders much and think politics and money have too much to do with todays wars.

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Like I said, with all the political bullshit aside are you willing to die for your country which if you love your land is in essence to protect your way of life for you and your family.

If you're not willing to do that, then you are the scum of the earth and don't deserve the rights you have, but you are entitled to them because some men cared enough that they were willing to give their lives.

I remember watching Band of Brothers and I don't remember exactly how the guy said it but those you who watched it will remember when they interviewed the actual men. The guy who talked about how in his small town, that there were 3 or 4 guys who killed themselves just because they weren't allowed to go and fight in the war.

It was a different time then and people don't see or realize and often credit what many men gave to make it so that you have what you have. Today this country is full of fuckups and people who are willing to capitalize on everyone else and live rich and fat but not willing if it all came right down to it, not willing to die fighting to keep their way of life for the people they love. That's just disgusting.
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i'd like to see the pervayors of war get in there and defend what shitty decisions caused war. WWII, definatly a justified war. but iraq, come on, there were many vets who were against war with them. fact of the matter with war is poor average joe gets who just wants to live life and be happy gets shot to shit over Dickhead McRichFag sitting on his ass, and having others do his dirty work.
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Like I said, with all the political bullshit aside are you willing to die for your country which if you love your land is in essence to protect your way of life for you and your family.

If you're not willing to do that, then you are the scum of the earth and don't deserve the rights you have, but you are entitled to them because some men cared enough that they were willing to give their lives.

I remember watching Band of Brothers and I don't remember exactly how the guy said it but those you who watched it will remember when they interviewed the actual men. The guy who talked about how in his small town, that there were 3 or 4 guys who killed themselves just because they weren't allowed to go and fight in the war.

It was a different time then and people don't see or realize and often credit what many men gave to make it so that you have what you have. Today this country is full of fuckups and people who are willing to capitalize on everyone else and live rich and fat but not willing if it all came right down to it, not willing to die fighting to keep their way of life for the people they love. That's just disgusting.
Now THAT is what is well-said here. Good post.
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''I, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.''

I took that oath more than once and lived by that oath for 12 years and would still be living by that oath if I had not been injured in the first gulf war.

If the draft is ever re-instituted...and it will be if we ever engage in a large war again...Americans will then once again have to take that oath, or serve five years in prison, or leave the country.

Tens of thousands chose to leave the country during the Vietnam era and fucking President Carter gave them a pardon allowing them to return....somthing that I would never have done.
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if i was drafted i would go. but i don't think i would sign up. even though i feel a strong sense of national identity, i don't think the military and i would get along very well. i'm lazy, hate authority, and don't like getting up early.
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:47 AM   #61
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There is more culture/principles/basic sense in the Native American than any immature 200 year old popcorn culture of the US.
Is it this "culture/principles/basic sense" that causes so many of them to be alcoholics and druggies and on the dole?
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:49 AM   #62
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"Foreigners" in respect to who? I smell the usual "us" and "them" again.

I don't give a shit where someone is born - they never asked to be born there - including the US - so are all treated the same.


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>Are you willing to die for your country?

In a word, no.

In two words, Fuck no.
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Is it this "culture/principles/basic sense" that causes so many of them to be alcoholics and druggies and on the dole?

What an intelligent message! I hope you never run into one of these on the dole drunks.
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would i die for my country?? HELL NO!!!

firstly - they aint done JACK SHIT for me
all my money comes from the US.. 99% of my work comes frm the US and europe

all Australia does is try to tax me - fuck em

secondly - I dont think that ANY man (or woman) should have to die for their country

if politican A has a porblem with politician X = let those fat fucker lazy ass bastards go and duke it out together
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Is it this "culture/principles/basic sense" that causes so many of them to be alcoholics and druggies and on the dole?

I see the fuck-up fairy has visited us again.

damn you are stupid.
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I didn't read all the post because I started to see to many pussies. But I promise you this I would die for my country
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can suck my mother fucking dick. And any of you with half a set of balls let me know because I am ready and willing to teach you a lesson up cose and personal in NYC! I promise you, fag....
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Is it this "culture/principles/basic sense" that causes so many of them to be alcoholics and druggies and on the dole?

What an intelligent message! I hope you never run into one of these on the dole drunks.
They are prevelant in the county that I live in and it is a known problem among Native Americans nationally.
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I see the fuck-up fairy has visited us again.

damn you are stupid.
Do you deny the problem exists among Native Americans?
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No fat fuck politician is ever gonna convince me that I have to fight for anything. I'd rather be on the run from the law my whole life than to give in to anything like that. Aren't their politicians that still want to re-instate the draft?
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I would fight and die for this country, I was born in Colombia, raised here. Traveled many countries, and can tell u, u will never find a country with so much diverse groups living among each other, and no other country gives us so much freedom. I think this is a GREAT nation. It's not perfect but we have a lot of liberties, opportunities.
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I would fight and die for this country, I was born in Colombia, raised here. Traveled many countries, and can tell u, u will never find a country with so much diverse groups living among each other, and no other country gives us so much freedom. I think this is a GREAT nation. It's not perfect but we have a lot of liberties, opportunities.
Isn't a war taking place in Colombia at this very moment?
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I think everyone would die for the country/place where he grew up, even if he born somewhere else... me too
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What is this dying shit? You're all a bunch of pussies!

I wouldn't die for my country, I'd be the one doing the killing and then I'd go home and fuck the prom queen!
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Do you deny the problem exists among Native Americans?

disgis indaa
I find it funny that someone who drinks everyday and states its impossible for them to become addicted feels he can label a whole culture as being drug addicts, alcoholics, and welfare recipients.
fuck you.
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I find it funny that someone who drinks everyday and states its impossible for them to become addicted feels he can label a whole culture as being drug addicts, alcoholics, and welfare recipients.
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Is it this "culture/principles/basic sense" that causes so many of them to be alcoholics and druggies and on the dole?
"many"...does not equal a whole culture.

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They are prevelant in the county that I live in and it is a known problem among Native Americans nationally.
It is a fact that it is a problem among Native Americans...and does not equal a whole culture.

Read what I said...not what you think I said...and by the way

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disgis indaa
I find it funny that someone who drinks everyday and states its impossible for them to become addicted feels he can label a whole culture as being drug addicts, alcoholics, and welfare recipients.
fuck you.
Do a study about physical addiction to alcohol. Only about 10% of people that use alcohol become physically addicted and that is because their body processess alcohol differently then a normal body processes alcohol. Similar to most Asians cannot process dairy products...because they lack an enzyme...different physiological makeup.

There of course is a psychological dependence...which is different than physical dependence.

I drink almost daily to take my mind off of the "physical" pain that I suffer daily. I prefer to do that than take the drugs that are at my disposal...as they are powerful and are addictive. It is my descretion/concern and not yours.
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It is a fact that it is a problem among Native Americans...and does not equal a whole culture.

Read what I said...not what you think I said...and by the way

it is a fact that you are a fucking retard. i dont give a rats ass what you think indaa. you are nothing compared to me.

enlighten me o war hero of mighty courage with your facts.
the truth is you dont know jack shit about me or my people and you have no fucking clue what problems my people face. go back to your bottle and drown yourself in its poison indaa.
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it is a fact that you are a fucking retard. i dont give a rats ass what you think indaa. you are nothing compared to me.

enlighten me o war hero of mighty courage with your facts.
the truth is you dont know jack shit about me or my people and you have no fucking clue what problems my people face. go back to your bottle and drown yourself in its poison indaa.
LittleMind...woud be a more appropriate name for you. You are dismissed.
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Only about 10% of people that use alcohol become physically addicted and that is because their body processess alcohol differently then a normal body processes alcohol.
same with E, marijuana, salvia, etc...... Normal body and normal mind/willing are safely keeping you from addiction - my personal experience
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LittleMind...woud be a more appropriate name for you. You are dismissed.
If you're going to say something that stupid you could at least fake a stroke.

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If you're going to say something that stupid you could at least fake a stroke.

By the way I have a Native American ancestor in my family geneology...so I am a breed...but as I stated you are dismissed..."LittleMind".
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By the way I have a Native American ancestor in my family geneology...so I am a breed...but as I stated you are dismissed..."LittleMind".
wow, is that suppose to impress me indaa?

go back to your bottle old man.

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I spent 8 years in the marines

no need to do it now like amp said let the yound guys do it now


I served in a heavy armour unit and an anti terrorism unit
they were both time well spent to defend my country

would I go back if there was a need for soldiers and we needed skilled personell now hell yeah I would go

if it came to that it would probably mean we were being invaded
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wow, is that suppose to impress me indaa?

go back to your bottle old man.

I have little concern about impressing gnats...but thanks for the advice...I am popping open a cold one now..."LittleMind",
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:57 AM   #90
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wow, is that suppose to impress me indaa?

go back to your bottle old man.

now this was funny.


i would depending on the circumstances and how big of a gun i got,

if it was big and powerful i might feel the urge to go bust some heads.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:58 AM   #91
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Fuck no I wouldnt fight. I want to enjoy my country ALIVE.
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Old 07-26-2003, 11:58 AM   #92
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the real question is - is my country willing to die for me?
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Old 07-26-2003, 12:10 PM   #93
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DIE FOR A FUCKING COUNTRY? That's the most pathetic thing I can imagine.

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Old 07-26-2003, 04:56 PM   #94
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the real question is - is my country willing to die for me?
Lard asses are not allowed to serve (I assume the same applies in Canada)...so someone else will die for you.
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