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  • Digipimp
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    • Mar 2003
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    #1

    Are you willing to die for you country?

    If someone offered you a gun and plane ticket to go to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere that we may have to go to fight next. Would you be willing to go right now, are you willing to fight for your country and risk your life?

    I have to say, I would go, I don't think I would have to think twice about it, my country is a great place and I would be willing to pick up a weapon and fight for it to survive if I was needed.

    Politics and all aside because I don't agree with the current administrations policies, I'm talking purely from a standpoint of whether you are willing to pick up arms and fight for your country if you were needed.
  • Amputate Your Head
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    • Aug 2001
    • 39075

    #2
    Been there, done that.... fuck that noise. I'll leave that to you young bucks. I'm all about enjoying the fuck outta every goddamned day I got left on this Earth.
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    • SpaceAce
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      • Jul 2002
      • 6493

      #3
      The answer depends on the circumstances. If my country is involved in a conflict that I believe is worthwhile or necessary, I would be willing to risk my life for the cause. Despite all the bickering, I believe a greater good has been served in Iraq. Vietnam, however, was a bad joke. I would risk my life for my country but not for some political whim that serves no purpose I can understand.

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      • Oracle Porn
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        • Oct 2002
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        #4
        I wont go...you will go instead of me...im too important...;)


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        • SYNIKAL
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          • Feb 2003
          • 1795

          #5
          I would go to Iraq just to try & find Sadam for the $25mill reward
          ...........

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          • sandman!
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            • Mar 2001
            • 15431

            #6
            If someone has the balls to invade the usa yea i will fight but going over to iraq or whatever country the prez decided to invade fuck that im not interested in taking over the world or telling people how to run thier biz.
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            • BlackCrayon
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              • Jun 2003
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              #7
              like sandman! said i would defend my country if it were invaded but fuck joining the army or whatever. you get paid worse than minimum wage for the worst job possible. and while they all think they are fighting for freedom, and in a sense they are, they are killing and dying for the decisions of politicians and businessmen who are completely detached from the situation.
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              • Webby
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                • Oct 2002
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                #8
                Digipimp:

                If someone offered you a gun and plane ticket to go to Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere that we may have to go to fight next. Would you be willing to go right now, are you willing to fight for your country and risk your life?
                NOPE! I want to see the full uncensored truth about why I should go and, maybe then I would. And.. if I was lied to, the gun would turn the other way...

                Fuck all that BS partiotism!
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                • Sly_RJ
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                  #9
                  I enjoy killing people. So sure!
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                  • directfiesta
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 30135

                    #10
                    I would die for my ISIP ...
                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                    • Amputate Your Head
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                      • Aug 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                      I enjoy killing people. So sure!
                      you're 20.

                      what could you possibly know about killin' people.
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                      • Preacher
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2970

                        #12
                        DIE FOR A FUCKING COUNTRY? That's the most pathetic thing I can imagine.

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                        • Sly_RJ
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

                          you're 20.

                          what could you possibly know about killin' people.
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                          • amph
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                            • Mar 2003
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                            #14
                            I would fight (and die if i had to) for my family, my friends and myself.
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                            • playa
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                              #15
                              The reality is politicians only say "Died for fighting for their country" just to make the death meaningful

                              99% of the time soldiers fight to stay alive and keep their buddies and other fellow soldiers alive


                              Remember back when they interviewed all the wounded soldiers and marines? They all said they wanted to go back their team and fight

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                              • Theo
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                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                i would die for a pizza now

                                seriously

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                                • CDSmith
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                                  • May 2001
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Preacher
                                  DIE FOR A FUCKING COUNTRY? That's the most pathetic thing I can imagine.

                                  He who isn't willing to defend his freedom deserves no freedom.




                                  And if you fuckers were drafted, you'd go. Period. God-damned good thing there weren't all that many like you back in 1940 or we'd all be sprechenzie Duetche right about now. You slackers.
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                                  • BlueDesignStudios
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                    like sandman! said i would defend my country if it were invaded but fuck joining the army or whatever. you get paid worse than minimum wage for the worst job possible. and while they all think they are fighting for freedom, and in a sense they are, they are killing and dying for the decisions of politicians and businessmen who are completely detached from the situation.
                                    Interesting point of view..

                                    One thing I note is that the leaders of countries.. the politicians & businessmen as you call them - seldom pay a price for war.

                                    Saddam may come to mind, but even if he gets killed by the US, he's had a pretty good past 20 years running a country, I mean, he's got a fair bit of wealth & runs a country, not a bad deal for him.

                                    Except, he should have taken the offer of exile and gone with that, he still could have lived like a king in first class luxury, just couldn't control a country

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                                    • playa
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                                      • Feb 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                      i would die for a pizza now

                                      seriously

                                      Knock yourself out

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                                      • Webby
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 14956

                                        #20
                                        amph:

                                        I would fight (and die if i had to) for my family, my friends and myself.
                                        In my eyes that supercedes any country I may happen to be born into. Anyone on this board could have been born on some mountainside in Africa just as much as a country in the "western world". Don't see "country" as relevant.
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                                        • CDSmith
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                                          #21
                                          Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
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                                          • Theo
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by playa



                                            Knock yourself out

                                            http://phcolumbus.quikorder.com/ph_start1.asp
                                            The local Pizza Hut store serving the 14100 ZIP code is NOT currently available for on-line internet ordering via Pizza Hut Online.

                                            they dont like foreigners

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                                            • Webby
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                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 14956

                                              #23
                                              CDSmith:

                                              Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
                                              "Foreigners" in respect to who? I smell the usual "us" and "them" again.

                                              I don't give a shit where someone is born - they never asked to be born there - including the US - so are all treated the same.


                                              "Patriotism is a disease of the vicious" - Oscar Wilde.
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                                              • Theo
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
                                                greek word :-)

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                                                • playa
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                                                  • 6432

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                                                  The local Pizza Hut store serving the 14100 ZIP code is NOT currently available for on-line internet ordering via Pizza Hut Online.

                                                  they dont like foreigners

                                                  Sorry buddy, I forgot that pizza hut can't deliver to Greece

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                                                  • Joe Average
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                    Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
                                                    It means you have been brainwashed.

                                                    Too many flags, anthems and pledges of allegience.

                                                    Suckers.
                                                    I used to get high on life but then I built up a tolerance.

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                                                    • Theo
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                                                      #27
                                                      a nice quote:

                                                      "There is a comparison of this dilemma of mixed patriotism to an example of ambivalence found in family life, or more specifically within a troubled family, with regard to the relationship between a father and his son. The son represents the "Patriot" and the father represents the "Nation". This is a logical comparison since the root word of "Patriotism" is the Greek word "pater", meaning father, and the word Nation being derived from "natio" or "by birth" (natal). The son, by instinct, is loyal to his father. But let's say that the father gets drunk sometimes and beats up the son for no reason; the son hates the father's unjust violation of their relationship. He is loyal to his father, yet he hates his father's misuse of authority. This is a personal analogy of the Ambivalent Patriotism that many Americans have toward their national government. "

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                                                      • playa
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                                                        • Feb 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Joe Average


                                                        It means you have been brainwashed.

                                                        Too many flags, anthems and pledges of allegience.

                                                        Suckers.

                                                        you must be a Jehova Witness

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                                                        • Webby
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                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 14956

                                                          #29
                                                          Soul_Rebel:

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                                                          • Theo
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                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 34515

                                                            #30
                                                            better this way, i ate so much food the last 2 days i'm afraid i got 5-6 pounds (((

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                                                            • Joe Average
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                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 785

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by playa



                                                              you must be a Jehova Witness
                                                              Nope. I'm an atheist.

                                                              I'm just not prepared to be brainwashed by the man.
                                                              I used to get high on life but then I built up a tolerance.

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                                                              • playa
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Joe Average


                                                                Nope. I'm an atheist.

                                                                I'm just not prepared to be brainwashed by the man.

                                                                YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

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                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Any worthless retard, no matter what country you live in, saying he wouldn't get off his lazy shiftless ass to defend and fight for his country epitomizes the ultimate insult and slap in the face of every war veteran that ever took up arms on your behalf.


                                                                  If you don't understand that, you are a fuckwit.
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                                                                  • Gemini
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    The local Pizza Hut store serving the 14100 ZIP code is NOT currently available for on-line internet ordering via Pizza Hut Online.

                                                                    they dont like foreigners


                                                                    That is simply NOT true SR!! Its cuz you have funny looking money

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                                                                    • amph
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                      Some foreigners will never understand what patriotism means.
                                                                      Go to war, fight, see your best friends die, kill a few people, come back when you have PTSD and talk to me about patriotism then (while you are preparing your morning shot of heroin)
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                                                                      • BigFrog
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        im native american. if we are invaded, i will pick up a gun and kill.

                                                                        but im not gonna go fight a war just because some white man thinks it's a good idea.

                                                                        fuck whitey

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                                                                        • Ironhorse
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          If anyone invaded US I would join right away, but I'm too old for overseas crap and I'm not sure most scenarios in the past really fall into 'Dying for your country' category. Maybe WW2 qualified for this, maybe. Depends on which books your read, I think.
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                                                                          • buddyjuf

                                                                            #38
                                                                            FUCK no
                                                                            I would never risk my life for my country

                                                                            god damnit, the only reason there is war is because of 2 assholes... (takes 2 to tango, you cant clap with one hand)

                                                                            Im not gonna get myself killed because they cant come up with an agreement

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                                                                            • amph
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Ironhorse
                                                                              Depends on which books your read, I think.
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                                                                              • CDSmith
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by amph
                                                                                Go to war, fight, see your best friends die, kill a few people, come back when you have PTSD and talk to me about patriotism then (while you are preparing your morning shot of heroin)
                                                                                Your alternative is to run and hide from your country's enemies then? Dodge the draft?


                                                                                Buddy, if I got the call when I was younger, they wouldn't have HAD to fucking draft me. I wouldn't have waited to be asked, I would have been there. Go study some history, maybe talk to a few vets and then come talk to me.
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                                                                                • Gemini
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  im native american.

                                                                                  So is my old man and he wonders if you are a Chippewha squaw, or just chatter like one. Its in the genetic makeup of Native Americans to fight and fight well.
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                                                                                  • [Labret]
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Only if its a civil war or a race war.

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                                                                                    • BigFrog
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Gemini
                                                                                      im native american.

                                                                                      So is my old man and he wonders if you are a Chippewha squaw, or just chatter like one. Its in the genetic makeup of Native Americans to fight and fight well.
                                                                                      I'm Apache and I have my principals. I wont fight for a white man.

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                                                                                      • Webby
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        CDSmith:

                                                                                        Any worthless retard, no matter what country you live in, saying he wouldn't get off his lazy shiftless ass to defend and fight for his country....
                                                                                        Unfortunately you got this usual load of "assumptions" which generalise on everyone and mean nothing.

                                                                                        If something is worth fighting for, I don't doubt it will get support.

                                                                                        Unfortunately I have not seen much lately that is worth fighting for. Only some cheap "words" of some politicans who have never been involved in *any* war.
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                                                                                        • Webby
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          BigFrog:

                                                                                          I'm Apache and I have my principals. I wont fight for a white man.
                                                                                          There is more culture/principles/basic sense in the Native American than any immature 200 year old popcorn culture of the US.
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                                                                                          • Gemini
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sounds fair BigFrog.

                                                                                            He just liked to fight. lol From what I read, his tribe were mercenaries to other tribes for centuries.
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                                                                                            • CDSmith
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                              Unfortunately you got this usual load of "assumptions" which generalise on everyone and mean nothing.

                                                                                              If something is worth fighting for, I don't doubt it will get support.

                                                                                              Unfortunately I have not seen much lately that is worth fighting for. Only some cheap "words" of some politicans who have never been involved in *any* war.
                                                                                              Those that are in the Canadian & US armed forces currently are there out of choice. That's what they do, it is their job. When the Government directs the military to go somewhere and fight, they do it. Period. In situations like Iraq and Afghanistan there was no draft, there was no "Call to arms" from the nation's leader asking the population to sign up and fight.


                                                                                              Part of the original question above was "Would you fight for your country" which says to me "if some foreign enemy was threatening my country, would I be willing to defend it? Would I be willing to fight to preserve my way of life and that of my family and friends??"....... To answer "no" to that is absolutely disgusting.
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                                                                                              • amph
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                [QUOTE]Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                [B]Your alternative is to run and hide from your country's enemies then? Dodge the draft?

                                                                                                I wrote what I would fight for above. If any of those were in danger I would give my life.

                                                                                                Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                                Buddy, if I got the call when I was younger, they wouldn't have HAD to fucking draft me. I wouldn't have waited to be asked, I would have been there. Go study some history, maybe talk to a few vets and then come talk to me.
                                                                                                Buddy, some of us here have seen a little bit more of war than your big screen TV has shown you. You maybe would be the first one in line, but you would also be the first one to find the bullet with your name on it or to simply chciken out and run
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                                                                                                • Ironhorse
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                                  BigFrog:



                                                                                                  There is more culture/principles/basic sense in the Native American than any immature 200 year old popcorn culture of the US.
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                                                                                                  • Amputate Your Head
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by amph


                                                                                                    Buddy, some of us here have seen a little bit more of war than your big screen TV has shown you. You maybe would be the first one in line, but you would also be the first one to find the bullet with your name on it or to simply chciken out and run
                                                                                                    fiddy.... and well said.
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