epassporte fees suck - GoFuckYourself.com

Randy Andy · 07-19-2003, 02:04 PM

I was looking at getting an epassporte commercial account mainly because of so many posts on this board recommending them as an alternative to paypal. I buy and sell traffic and was considering using them as a payment solution for customers buying traffic. Well I was shocked to learn of their fees. Firstly, they don't mention their fees anywhere on their site (unlike paypal) so I had to call. I was then told that there was an 8% fee to receive funds. When I replied that I thought that 8% was much higher than what the competition charged I received the reply "but paypal doesn't accept adult anymore". Sounds to me that epassporte is exploiting adult webmasters because many of many of them can't use paypal now. Why should epassporte fees be so much higher for the same service webmasters received before with paypal. I understand that Epassporte also charges 5% to the payor to load their account. Paypal charges nothing. So why is everyone recommending epassporte as the best thing in a long time. I was also shocked to find that when I received the contract that I was required to fax a copy of my passport with my application. This is from a company based offshore in the Carribean. I think a better idea would be for the operators of this company faxing me and every other webmaster using their service a copy of their passports. Sounds to me that they won't be around to long if this is how they conduct business.

Daymare · 07-19-2003, 02:06 PM

Those fees suck. BOOOOOOOOO to epassporte

Jakke PNG · 07-19-2003, 02:07 PM

Epassporte makes me happy

DaLord · 07-19-2003, 02:14 PM

Epassporte just plain suck. End of story.

Sly_RJ · 07-19-2003, 02:14 PM

I've heard good things about Stormpay as well. I created an ePassporte account to use at Party Poker. That's probably all I'll use it for.

If they charge 8% to receive money from others, and that other person already paid 5% to load the money into their account, that's a total of $13 that they've made from that same $100. Sorry honey, not gonna happen...

Paul Markham · 07-19-2003, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Epassporte makes me happy

I'm pissed off with them.

I eventually got my Electron card, so that I can withdraw my money from theis bank account. Been with them two months and have the grand sum of $800 in the account. Less than we take a day with MultiCards.

The ATM let me take out $185 so what about the rest?

ePassporte are not that good, you get an order with the payment via them. The order gets cancelled when the buyer sees the $5 in every $50 or part of $50 (yes $51 costs him $61) and the verification system.

Jakke PNG · 07-19-2003, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I'm pissed off with them.

I eventually got my Electron card, so that I can withdraw my money from theis bank account. Been with them two months and have the grand sum of $800 in the account. Less than we take a day with MultiCards.

The ATM let me take out $185 so what about the rest?

ePassporte are not that good, you get an order with the payment via them. The order gets cancelled when the buyer sees the $5 in every $50 or part of $50 (yes $51 costs him $61) and the verification system.

I just sent you a few hundred bucks yesterday via epassporte. Stop crying

Yeah, I've been trying to get them to raise my atm limit. I managed to get ?400/day from atms... I WANT that limit higher. I'm gonna live off epassporte account while in internext... $400/day isn't enough!

That's the only bad thing.

..of course fee's are always too high

FlyingIguana · 07-19-2003, 02:20 PM

damn and i thought paypal fees were high.

swedguy · 07-19-2003, 02:38 PM

PayPal is great for withdrawing money.

Your daily spending limit is: $3,000
Your daily ATM cash withdrawal limit is: $400

The fee for withdrawing money at an ATM is $1.
Bank account -> PayPal account: $0
PayPal account -> Bank account: $0

PayPal is good for something

sandman! · 07-19-2003, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Randy Andy
I was looking at getting an epassporte commercial account mainly because of so many posts on this board recommending them as an alternative to paypal. I buy and sell traffic and was considering using them as a payment solution for customers buying traffic. Well I was shocked to learn of their fees. Firstly, they don't mention their fees anywhere on their site (unlike paypal) so I had to call. I was then told that there was an 8% fee to receive funds. When I replied that I thought that 8% was much higher than what the competition charged I received the reply "but paypal doesn't accept adult anymore". Sounds to me that epassporte is exploiting adult webmasters because many of many of them can't use paypal now. Why should epassporte fees be so much higher for the same service webmasters received before with paypal. I understand that Epassporte also charges 5% to the payor to load their account. Paypal charges nothing. So why is everyone recommending epassporte as the best thing in a long time. I was also shocked to find that when I received the contract that I was required to fax a copy of my passport with my application. This is from a company based offshore in the Carribean. I think a better idea would be for the operators of this company faxing me and every other webmaster using their service a copy of their passports. Sounds to me that they won't be around to long if this is how they conduct business.

Cheaper to get your own merchant account.

funkmaster · 07-19-2003, 02:49 PM

wait until mr. taxman finds out about your epassport account ....

flashfreak · 07-19-2003, 03:05 PM

one word: moneybookers
beat this: 1% fees, up to EUR 0.5
more about their fees: http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees

and surprise: they're in UK , not in a so called fiscal paradise.
and they work worldwide...

now that I gave you so much valuable info if you consider joining please do it under my referral : https://www.moneybookers.com/app/register.pl?rid=111764

directfiesta · 07-19-2003, 03:09 PM

Comments from KimmyKim ???

flashfreak · 07-19-2003, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Comments from KimmyKim ???

aren't you tired of the same old song?

directfiesta · 07-19-2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak

aren't you tired of the same old song?

Sure am.

flashfreak · 07-19-2003, 03:19 PM

oh, forgot to say smth: they're adult friendly too ;)

okdesign · 07-19-2003, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Epassporte makes me happy

me too

Kimmykim · 07-19-2003, 10:13 PM

TGF -- you gotta quit asking me for things on Friday afternoon, I dont control the process, and by the time I relay the requests it's too late to get someone to clear it --

As for the fees being too high, well let's see.

You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard.

The costs of doing business are simply what they are. When someone takes on the risk of the transaction for you, and relieves you of a huge part of the fraud and chargeback ratio allowances, AND does it in a manner that doesn't kill your wallet, it is up to you as to whether or not you want to use it.

I'm not going to make you, I'm not even going to tell you that you have to, and I'm not even going to strongly suggest you do.

I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens with all the new MC and Visa stuff, after I've watched Paypal pull out, and then we'll see who's watching what

pornJester · 07-19-2003, 10:18 PM

check this article out, it talks about their fees....

http://www.webmastervault.com/tip-ep...stormpay.shtml

SpaceAce · 07-19-2003, 10:54 PM

I looked into epassporte, saw their fees and almost had a seizure from laughter. If they make you happy, good for you. I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. I won't even consider using them to send money to other people, much less collect payments through them.

SpaceAce

Kimmykim · 07-19-2003, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornJester
check this article out, it talks about their fees....

http://www.webmastervault.com/tip-ep...stormpay.shtml

Nice article, not 100% accurate but not bad.

pornJester · 07-19-2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Nice article, not 100% accurate but not bad.

i guess they can never really be 100% unless one has extensive experience with the subject in question.

if you'd like to write me up something i'd be more than happy to publish it

thekebie · 07-19-2003, 11:24 PM

epassport should just charge the receiving buisness I think. Even though that is what I would be in the case of using them, it makes the customer more open to using them.

Paul Markham · 07-19-2003, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I just sent you a few hundred bucks yesterday via epassporte. Stop crying

Yeah, I've been trying to get them to raise my atm limit. I managed to get ?400/day from atms... I WANT that limit higher. I'm gonna live off epassporte account while in internext... $400/day isn't enough!

That's the only bad thing.
..of course fee's are always too high

Thanks for the order TGF and the plug. But what is the use if I cannot get the money out? Looks like my limit is $200 a day.

Not much use if I start doing a lot of business through them.

ePassporte have three major problems.

(1) The signing up process, if you cannot access your CC statement online you have problems signing up. It is also weighted towards Americans. They charge you an ammount in dollars.

(2) Charging the client to deposit money.

(3) They do not send an email to the seller to confirm payment. This one is very strange and I can't see why they don't do it.

Matt_WildCash · 07-19-2003, 11:46 PM

Wow I was going to use them on our paysites for people joining and was even thinking about paying affliates via epassporte but screw losing 10% + of the money in transit. Western union only charge 5% and thats still a lot to lose when your talking big money.

If stormpay can charge 3% i'm sure epassporte could too. I guess there either not able to or don't want too. I think i'll stick to paypal for affliate payouts.

07-20-2003, 12:00 AM

nothing can beat 25% WU fees

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
Wow I was going to use them on our paysites for people joining and was even thinking about paying affliates via epassporte but screw losing 10% + of the money in transit. Western union only charge 5% and thats still a lot to lose when your talking big money.

If stormpay can charge 3% i'm sure epassporte could too. I guess there either not able to or don't want too. I think i'll stick to paypal for affliate payouts.

If you were going to lose all that money in paying out affiliates I guess it would be a different story then wouldn't it?

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornJester

i guess they can never really be 100% unless one has extensive experience with the subject in question.

if you'd like to write me up something i'd be more than happy to publish it

Corrections or you would rather ask me questions? I can go either way with you

Mr.Fiction · 07-20-2003, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard.

What consumer pays to use a credit card these days?

PM2 · 07-20-2003, 01:04 AM

hey...lets all jerk eachother off

spanks!

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

What consumer pays to use a credit card these days?

The ones that pay their bill, duh.

And the ones that have co-branded cards like my very own B of A AmWest card...

John3 · 07-20-2003, 01:45 AM

there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money?

and then there's that pesky thing called interest

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3
there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money?

and then there's that pesky thing called interest

Hush up now, if you start making sense this could get ugly ;)

FlyingIguana · 07-20-2003, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3
there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money?

and then there's that pesky thing called interest

if you pay it off there are no fees or interest. it costs nothing to use and nothing to write cheques.

John3 · 07-20-2003, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

if you pay it off there are no fees or interest. it costs nothing to use and nothing to write cheques.

huh? how do you write a check with a credit card?

directfiesta · 07-20-2003, 02:09 AM

I am not charged any fees to use my credit cards as long as I pay the balance due on time. One of them is a gold card, still no fees.

THe merchant pays the fees.

So I really don't get your post:
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Kimmykim

You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Makes no fucking sense.

Epassport should only charge the " merchant " the fees they feel they require to operate and that the merchant can support.

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

if you pay it off there are no fees or interest. it costs nothing to use and nothing to write cheques.

Um, sure.

FlyingIguana · 07-20-2003, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3

huh? how do you write a check with a credit card?

easy, they give you cheques. then you use them.

FlyingIguana · 07-20-2003, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Um, sure.

have your ever used a credit card? lets see no fees and you pay off the balance and no interest. where's the fees?

there are none...

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

have your ever used a credit card? lets see no fees and you pay off the balance and no interest. where's the fees?

there are none...

Sorry to tell you this but B of A charges a yearly on any of their co-branded cards that give you points or miles.

My Mastercard carries a 35 buck a year fee too, whether or not you pay it off.

FlyingIguana · 07-20-2003, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Sorry to tell you this but B of A charges a yearly on any of their co-branded cards that give you points or miles.

My Mastercard carries a 35 buck a year fee too, whether or not you pay it off.

thats nice, you know there are other banks that offer credit cards? some cards don't have any fees...

John3 · 07-20-2003, 02:17 AM

Ok, there are credit cards and then there are check cards issued thru your local bank. While check cards carry the MC or VISA logo, they are NOT credit cards.

Unless the Canadian system is different, you can't write a check on a credit card account, and there are fees on all credit cards. And I'd imagine that even if your local bank DID issue you a cerdit card then there are fees attached - generally to your checking account is that is where the card is attached

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

thats nice, you know there are other banks that offer credit cards? some cards don't have any fees...

I'll take the miles, you know the 1 for every dollar I spend and the doubles on transactions with the airline?

America West FlightFund Platinum Visa
ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE (APR) Prime + 6.99%
ANNUAL FEE $75
CREDIT LINE Up to $100,000
ONLINE ACCOUNT ACCESS YesGG
KEY BENEFIT Up to 7,000 Bonus MilesHH

Jakke PNG · 07-20-2003, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
TGF -- you gotta quit asking me for things on Friday afternoon, I dont control the process, and by the time I relay the requests it's too late to get someone to clear it --

Sorry. I've lost track of days, I usually send mails when I remember them.. regardless of date and time.
But, I think someone got on my case anyways. Thanks.

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3

Unless the Canadian system is different, you can't write a check on a credit card account, and there are fees on all credit cards. And I'd imagine that even if your local bank DID issue you a cerdit card then there are fees attached - generally to your checking account is that is where the card is attached

Not always true, PaineWebber will let you write checks against certain accounts they carry, including margin accounts if you are set up right. It's basically writing a loan to yourself, same thing with some home equity accounts.

FlyingIguana · 07-20-2003, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

I'll take the miles, you know the 1 for every dollar I spend and the doubles on transactions with the airline?

America West FlightFund Platinum Visa
ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE (APR) Prime + 6.99%
ANNUAL FEE $75
CREDIT LINE Up to $100,000
ONLINE ACCOUNT ACCESS YesGG
KEY BENEFIT Up to 7,000 Bonus MilesHH

then you're paying for the perks.

directfiesta · 07-20-2003, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

I'll take the miles, you know the 1 for every dollar I spend and the doubles on transactions with the airline?

America West FlightFund Platinum Visa
ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE (APR) Prime + 6.99%
ANNUAL FEE $75
CREDIT LINE Up to $100,000
ONLINE ACCOUNT ACCESS YesGG
KEY BENEFIT Up to 7,000 Bonus MilesHH

All " premium cards" . I have one that gives me a blowjob rwice a year.. lol.

Does Epassport gives 'miles", travel insurrance, etc...

There are no fees credit card. Please don't get me to post captures of bank pages.

My TD Gold givews me check, travel insurrance, online access and the whistles: NO FEES>

here are NO FEES:

https://www.tdcanadatrust.com/tdvisa/nofee.jsp

I undestand you are selling your stuff and that is fine, but don't sell it by spreading lies...

quiet · 07-20-2003, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John3
Ok, there are credit cards and then there are check cards issued thru your local bank. While check cards carry the MC or VISA logo, they are NOT credit cards.

my mc card issued me checks i can use to charge the card. i don't use them, but they definitely exist.

as far as fees, i pay my card off each month, so my only fee is a single annual of around 40 bucks for the enhanced airmiles.

John3 · 07-20-2003, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Not always true, PaineWebber will let you write checks against certain accounts they carry, including margin accounts if you are set up right. It's basically writing a loan to yourself, same thing with some home equity accounts.

Yeah, I have a VISA attached to something similar, but I was assuming most people here wouldn't have a credit card set-up that way.

Plus, my broker is involved = fees ;)

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
I undestand you are selling your stuff and that is fine, but don't sell it by spreading lies...

No lies here bud, I just spelled out exactly what I was talking about.

ePassporte offers the opportunity to shop online or withdraw money from any ATM anonymously and globally.

It is a world of new opportunity.

07-19-2003, 02:04 PM	#1
Randy Andy Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Great White North Posts: 63	epassporte fees suck I was looking at getting an epassporte commercial account mainly because of so many posts on this board recommending them as an alternative to paypal. I buy and sell traffic and was considering using them as a payment solution for customers buying traffic. Well I was shocked to learn of their fees. Firstly, they don't mention their fees anywhere on their site (unlike paypal) so I had to call. I was then told that there was an 8% fee to receive funds. When I replied that I thought that 8% was much higher than what the competition charged I received the reply "but paypal doesn't accept adult anymore". Sounds to me that epassporte is exploiting adult webmasters because many of many of them can't use paypal now. Why should epassporte fees be so much higher for the same service webmasters received before with paypal. I understand that Epassporte also charges 5% to the payor to load their account. Paypal charges nothing. So why is everyone recommending epassporte as the best thing in a long time. I was also shocked to find that when I received the contract that I was required to fax a copy of my passport with my application. This is from a company based offshore in the Carribean. I think a better idea would be for the operators of this company faxing me and every other webmaster using their service a copy of their passports. Sounds to me that they won't be around to long if this is how they conduct business.

07-19-2003, 02:07 PM	#3
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Epassporte makes me happy __________________ ..and I'm off.

07-19-2003, 02:14 PM	#5
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	I've heard good things about Stormpay as well. I created an ePassporte account to use at Party Poker. That's probably all I'll use it for. If they charge 8% to receive money from others, and that other person already paid 5% to load the money into their account, that's a total of $13 that they've made from that same $100. Sorry honey, not gonna happen... __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

07-19-2003, 03:05 PM	#12
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	one word: moneybookers beat this: 1% fees, up to EUR 0.5 more about their fees: http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees and surprise: they're in UK , not in a so called fiscal paradise. and they work worldwide... now that I gave you so much valuable info if you consider joining please do it under my referral : https://www.moneybookers.com/app/register.pl?rid=111764 __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223 Last edited by flashfreak; 07-19-2003 at 03:17 PM..

07-19-2003, 03:09 PM	#13
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,682	Comments from KimmyKim ??? __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

07-19-2003, 02:06 PM	#2
Daymare Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,674	Those fees suck. BOOOOOOOOO to epassporte

07-19-2003, 02:14 PM	#4
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	Epassporte just plain suck. End of story.

07-19-2003, 02:20 PM	#8
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	damn and i thought paypal fees were high.

07-19-2003, 02:38 PM	#9
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	PayPal is great for withdrawing money. Your daily spending limit is: $3,000 Your daily ATM cash withdrawal limit is: $400 The fee for withdrawing money at an ATM is $1. Bank account -> PayPal account: $0 PayPal account -> Bank account: $0 PayPal is good for something

07-19-2003, 02:49 PM	#11
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	wait until mr. taxman finds out about your epassport account ....

07-19-2003, 03:19 PM	#16
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	oh, forgot to say smth: they're adult friendly too ;) __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

07-19-2003, 10:13 PM	#18
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	TGF -- you gotta quit asking me for things on Friday afternoon, I dont control the process, and by the time I relay the requests it's too late to get someone to clear it -- As for the fees being too high, well let's see. You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard. The costs of doing business are simply what they are. When someone takes on the risk of the transaction for you, and relieves you of a huge part of the fraud and chargeback ratio allowances, AND does it in a manner that doesn't kill your wallet, it is up to you as to whether or not you want to use it. I'm not going to make you, I'm not even going to tell you that you have to, and I'm not even going to strongly suggest you do. I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens with all the new MC and Visa stuff, after I've watched Paypal pull out, and then we'll see who's watching what

07-19-2003, 10:18 PM	#19
pornJester Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 6,138	check this article out, it talks about their fees.... http://www.webmastervault.com/tip-ep...stormpay.shtml __________________ FreshBucks \| Webmaster Vault \| GayAW Trusted Names in Adult. ICQ 9157.3698

07-19-2003, 10:54 PM	#20
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I looked into epassporte, saw their fees and almost had a seizure from laughter. If they make you happy, good for you. I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. I won't even consider using them to send money to other people, much less collect payments through them. SpaceAce

07-19-2003, 11:24 PM	#23
thekebie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Hood of Burquitlam, BC Posts: 1,046	epassport should just charge the receiving buisness I think. Even though that is what I would be in the case of using them, it makes the customer more open to using them.

07-19-2003, 11:46 PM	#25
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Wow I was going to use them on our paysites for people joining and was even thinking about paying affliates via epassporte but screw losing 10% + of the money in transit. Western union only charge 5% and thats still a lot to lose when your talking big money. If stormpay can charge 3% i'm sure epassporte could too. I guess there either not able to or don't want too. I think i'll stick to paypal for affliate payouts.

07-20-2003, 12:00 AM	#26
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	nothing can beat 25% WU fees

07-20-2003, 01:04 AM	#30
PM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 504	hey...lets all jerk eachother off spanks!

07-20-2003, 01:45 AM	#32
John3 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,214	there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money? and then there's that pesky thing called interest __________________ Hook 'em.

07-20-2003, 02:09 AM	#36
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,682	I am not charged any fees to use my credit cards as long as I pay the balance due on time. One of them is a gold card, still no fees. THe merchant pays the fees. So I really don't get your post: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Kimmykim You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Makes no fucking sense. Epassport should only charge the " merchant " the fees they feel they require to operate and that the merchant can support. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

07-20-2003, 02:17 AM	#42
John3 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,214	Ok, there are credit cards and then there are check cards issued thru your local bank. While check cards carry the MC or VISA logo, they are NOT credit cards. Unless the Canadian system is different, you can't write a check on a credit card account, and there are fees on all credit cards. And I'd imagine that even if your local bank DID issue you a cerdit card then there are fees attached - generally to your checking account is that is where the card is attached __________________ Hook 'em.