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TDF · 07-20-2003, 09:44 AM

100 dollah fees!

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
100 dollah fees!

101 for you baby ;)

Donny · 07-20-2003, 09:52 AM

All I can say is that ePassporte has a really cool ad running right now with a really hot chick in it!

TDF · 07-20-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
101 for you baby ;)

I love it when u talk durttty after darkie ;)))

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli

I love it when u talk durttty after darkie ;)))

Hey it's broad daylight here ;)

--MARIAN-- · 07-20-2003, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

lets pay their fees to see them growing...

Don't like them - don't use them - don't pay their fees.

It's that simple

But I'm sure more and more people will get an account with Epassporte. They have simple procedures, they have the Epoch muscles behind them and they DO have the desire to suit the needs of anyone out there who needs money transfered to another person.

Kevin2 · 07-20-2003, 10:27 AM

I like epassporte and just received my electron card on Friday

Cash · 07-20-2003, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
All I can say is that ePassporte has a really cool ad running right now with a really hot chick in it!

Hot and smart, the perfect combination for a lady

ffmihai · 07-20-2003, 11:16 AM

i'm waiting for my electron too.

dchottie · 07-20-2003, 11:51 AM

I still do not understand though. I have to go to the trouble of verifying my account with these services - epassport, stormpay or any of the rest of them - so that they know that it is a valid account and I am not trying to commit fraud. Why in the hell am I getting charged such an outrageous amount to transfer money from my bank account to load my accounts with these companies.

That would be like sending a payment in on your Visa card and having to add 10% to your payment total just for sending a payment.

And just out of curiosity. If I put say $500 in my account with any of these companies and it sits there a month or two. Does the company that I have the account with draw interest on that?

I can understand charging me to transfer that money into my bank account (which paypal didn't) and I can understand a charge at an ATM and I can understand a charge on the merchant end for receiving payment (as it would be if you used a card in any store) but I for one am not going to use a service that charges me to put my money in an account.

If moneybookers does not charge me to put money in an account then I would definately go for that type of service over any others. I for one though will continue to use my paypal account.

TDF · 07-20-2003, 11:57 AM

currently I can use my electron card for atm withdrawls but not purchases..

flashfreak · 07-20-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by dchottie
If moneybookers does not charge me to put money in an account then I would definately go for that type of service over any others. I for one though will continue to use my paypal account.

moneybookers, upload money:
- international bank transfer - FREE
- visa, mc : 3%
- e-gold - FREE

withdraw money:
- international bank transfer - EUR 1.8
- USD, EUR, GBR cheque - EUR 3.5
- e-gold - 4%

send money:
1% up to EUR 0.5

receive money:
FREE

Jakke PNG · 07-20-2003, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

moneybookers, upload money:
- international bank transfer - FREE
- visa, mc : 3%
- e-gold - FREE

withdraw money:
- international bank transfer - EUR 1.8
- USD, EUR, GBR cheque - EUR 3.5
- e-gold - 4%

send money:
1% up to EUR 0.5

receive money:
FREE

...just make sure you can actually withdraw money from your moneybookers account. I, for example, can't.

flashfreak · 07-20-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

...just make sure you can actually withdraw money from your moneybookers account. I, for example, can't.

I did it few times.
I can in Romania and you can't in Finland? I doubt it..

Kimmykim · 07-20-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by dchottie
If moneybookers does not charge me to put money in an account then I would definately go for that type of service over any others. I for one though will continue to use my paypal account.

Um hello sweetie, sorry to bring you up to 2002, but Paypal doesnt do adult and galleries don't click thru at 30-40%...

Loading commercial accounts, which imo is the BEST place for money to initiate its trip thru the system costs the sponsor the amount of the wire transfer. Period.

Jakke PNG · 07-20-2003, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

I did it few times.
I can in Romania and you can't in Finland? I doubt it..

There's no listed method of receiving payment. There's the finnish flag, sending money fees.. but no method of receiving.

JamesK · 07-21-2003, 06:08 AM

at least there are no taxes.

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Wildcard
at least there are no taxes.

?
Where I live you pay taxes on everything you earn

Groove · 07-21-2003, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather

There's no listed method of receiving payment. There's the finnish flag, sending money fees.. but no method of receiving.

According to their site "ALL Countries" can upload cash via Visa, Mastercard, bank transfer or e-gold and "ALL Countries" can witdraw cash via bank transfer, cheque or e-gold. Look here at the top of the table:

http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees

Finland is a country isn't it?

Jakke PNG · 07-21-2003, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Groove

According to their site "ALL Countries" can upload cash via Visa, Mastercard, bank transfer or e-gold and "ALL Countries" can witdraw cash via bank transfer, cheque or e-gold. Look here at the top of the table:

http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees

Finland is a country isn't it?

Why isnt' there a method listed next to the finnish flag then?

flashfreak · 07-21-2003, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by Groove

According to their site "ALL Countries" can upload cash via Visa, Mastercard, bank transfer or e-gold and "ALL Countries" can witdraw cash via bank transfer, cheque or e-gold. Look here at the top of the table:

http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees

Finland is a country isn't it?

that's what I thought too...

flashfreak · 07-21-2003, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Why isnt' there a method listed next to the finnish flag then?

finland is listed there so that you see you can upload money thru domestic bank transfer. that means they have a branch in your country and you can upload money directly in their branch account.
here they have MoneyBookers srl (srl means limited in romanian). when I withdraw money into my bank account I'm receiving from them.

question: how many branches has epassporte worldwide?

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

question: how many branches has epassporte worldwide?

We don't need branches, we are worldwide. Thus the phrase, Shop globally and anonymously.

It's still early here, am I missing something?

JamesK · 07-21-2003, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

?
Where I live you pay taxes on everything you earn

that's exactly what I mean.

cherrylula · 07-21-2003, 08:23 AM

damn and I can still remember when paypal first came out.... I think it was 100% free and they gave you $5 without much verification.

I miss those gravy days.

flashfreak · 07-21-2003, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

We don't need branches, we are worldwide. Thus the phrase, Shop globally and anonymously.

they're worldwide too...
they have branches to cut customer's fees. it seems that they care about it...

flashfreak · 07-21-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
101 for you baby ;)

speaking of 101:
I want to load an epassporte virtual visa with $101... how much do they charge?

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

they're worldwide too...
they have branches to cut customer's fees. it seems that they care about it...

Branches wouldn't cut a customers fee. They would add overhead which would increase the fees or drastically decrease the cash flow. I'm not going to argue with you on basic Business 101, you think your way and we will leave it at that.

ePassporte is a long term project that has undergone more Visa scrutiny and suggestion on the issuing side than any product I've ever heard of, and based on that fact, I'd say you get what you pay for...

I'll be launching reseller today as a matter of fact, though I'm sure that someone has a better, more lucrative, more accessible, more icing on the cake, system already that someone can tell me about ;)

flashfreak · 07-21-2003, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Branches wouldn't cut a customers fee.

of course they would. a domestic bank transfer is way cheaper than an international one.
so it's cheaper to have a local branch / partner company that receives / sends the money to customers thru domestic transfers.
and then you cash the income - a % that goes to the branch/partner company. the % is insignificant comparing the the money you'd pay for intl. money transfers.
a big difference.

xxweekxx · 07-21-2003, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

of course they would. a domestic bank transfer is way cheaper than an international one.
so it's cheaper to have a local branch / partner company that receives / sends the money to customers thru domestic transfers.
and then you cash the income - a % that goes to the branch/partner company. the % is insignificant comparing the the money you'd pay for intl. money transfers.
a big difference.

You gotta understand KK is NEVER wrong. She also never admits when she is wrong

It's pointless arguing with her. Just drop the whole thing and move on.

flashfreak · 07-21-2003, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by xxweekxx

You gotta understand KK is NEVER wrong. She also never admits when she is wrong

It's pointless arguing with her. Just drop the whole thing and move on.

DAMN! I forgot.. I promise I won't post here anymore....

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by xxweekxx

You gotta understand KK is NEVER wrong. She also never admits when she is wrong

It's pointless arguing with her. Just drop the whole thing and move on.

Hahaha, it's Monday morning, there are 12 million comedians outta work and you are trying to be funny.

Of course I am wrong. It happens all the time. I don't have any problem admitting it.

This time I just dont happen to be ;)

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by flashfreak

of course they would. a domestic bank transfer is way cheaper than an international one.
so it's cheaper to have a local branch / partner company that receives / sends the money to customers thru domestic transfers.
and then you cash the income - a % that goes to the branch/partner company. the % is insignificant comparing the the money you'd pay for intl. money transfers.
a big difference.

If the end consumer is absorbing the fees, then it would make no difference how much they are...

xxxdesign-net · 07-21-2003, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
I am not charged any fees to use my credit cards as long as I pay the balance due on time. One of them is a gold card, still no fees.

You dont pay internet fees?

I pay 18% for all my internet purchases with MasterCard!

jeffs · 07-21-2003, 09:41 AM

Is anyone else having a problem loading MoneyBookers? It just sits there and refreshes every 30 seconds on both of my PCs.

dchottie · 07-21-2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Um hello sweetie, sorry to bring you up to 2002, but Paypal doesnt do adult and galleries don't click thru at 30-40%...

Loading commercial accounts, which imo is the BEST place for money to initiate its trip thru the system costs the sponsor the amount of the wire transfer. Period.

I am not using my Paypal for adult reasons and I have never said that I am using my paypal for adult reasons. I use them because they are superior to your program. That's the facts . . . deal with it.

I have never disrespected you or spoken to you for that matter; that I am aware of. All I will say to you is stay off my ass. You and I have no business relations whatsoever and I will make sure to keep it that way. Keep your nose out of my business and all will be much better. If you still continue to feel the need to butt into my affairs and downgrade anything I have to say you can always find me at Internext. I'm sure that I will be all over the place speaking with people.

And next time I need some advice I will turn on Martha Stewart and get advice from her instead of a Martha Stewart lookalike.

Randy Andy · 07-21-2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

If you are receiving payments from your sponsors via ePassporte then you are NOT being charged 8% and never have been. In most cases the sponsors are picking up the nominal charge and in the cases where they are not then you are out $2 in order to receive payments instantly and without hassle no matter what country you reside in. You can then either spend that money via Virtual Visa, spend it via acct to acct transfer, or if you have opted to get an Electron card then you may remove it at the ATM.

That may be the case for individuals receiving payments, but I am incorporated and I received a contract from epassporte stating that my company would have to pay 8% on all money received. It sounds to me that if any webmaster is incorportated his/her company has got to pay 8% juice on sponsor payments and any other payments received. For serious webmasters who make good money, incorporation is the way to go (limited liablity, less taxes) but no way am I going to pay 8% just because I've setup a company instead of receiving the money personally.

FlyingIguana · 07-21-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

You dont pay internet fees?

I pay 18% for all my internet purchases with MasterCard!

pay off the balance and there isnt any interest...

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by dchottie
I have never disrespected you or spoken to you for that matter; that I am aware of. All I will say to you is stay off my ass. You and I have no business relations whatsoever and I will make sure to keep it that way. Keep your nose out of my business and all will be much better. If you still continue to feel the need to butt into my affairs and downgrade anything I have to say you can always find me at Internext. I'm sure that I will be all over the place speaking with people.

And next time I need some advice I will turn on Martha Stewart and get advice from her instead of a Martha Stewart lookalike.

Meow ;)

And we have spoken my dear... as a matter of fact, you spoke to me, cj, Timon and a few others who've been around the block... remember this conversation?

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...ermyspell&st=0

I think we also might have spoken here...

http://bbs.porncity.net/showthread.p...threadid=57555

And as for being a Martha Stewart lookalike, if my bank account looked like hers, even after the Imclone disaster, I'd take it any day

Kimmykim · 07-21-2003, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Randy Andy

That may be the case for individuals receiving payments, but I am incorporated and I received a contract from epassporte stating that my company would have to pay 8% on all money received. It sounds to me that if any webmaster is incorportated his/her company has got to pay 8% juice on sponsor payments and any other payments received. For serious webmasters who make good money, incorporation is the way to go (limited liablity, less taxes) but no way am I going to pay 8% just because I've setup a company instead of receiving the money personally.

Actually Andy, please check your contract again, since that is incorrect and if your contract actually says that I'd like to get a copy please so we can fix it.

If you are using ePassporte to receive money for goods or services, the Commerce contract, the base fee is 8% to receive funds for payment. This is the account that has the available shopping cart attached to it as well.

If you are using ePassporte to pay affiliates, the Commercial contract, then it is a flat $2 per transaction charge, regardless of the amount you are paying the affiliate. The Commercial account is initially funded via wire and continuously funded via either wire or ePassporte transfers into the account, so there is no 5% or 8% or anything else attached to it other than the bank wire fees, which vary.

It is possible that you may have a contract with one but not the other spelled out in it, since at a point in the system there were two separate contracts for these functions, and if you do have the single version I can get it remedied for you very quickly.

My email is [email protected] if you re-read the contract and feel there is an error, as I said we need to correct that ASAP if you intend to both receive monies and use it as an affiliate payment system.

Randy Andy · 07-21-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Actually Andy, please check your contract again, since that is incorrect and if your contract actually says that I'd like to get a copy please so we can fix it.

If you are using ePassporte to receive money for goods or services, the Commerce contract, the base fee is 8% to receive funds for payment. This is the account that has the available shopping cart attached to it as well.

If you are using ePassporte to pay affiliates, the Commercial contract, then it is a flat $2 per transaction charge, regardless of the amount you are paying the affiliate. The Commercial account is initially funded via wire and continuously funded via either wire or ePassporte transfers into the account, so there is no 5% or 8% or anything else attached to it other than the bank wire fees, which vary.

It is possible that you may have a contract with one but not the other spelled out in it, since at a point in the system there were two separate contracts for these functions, and if you do have the single version I can get it remedied for you very quickly.

My email is [email protected] if you re-read the contract and feel there is an error, as I said we need to correct that ASAP if you intend to both receive monies and use it as an affiliate payment system.

I am now confused. If my company is receiving an affiliate payment from a sponsor by epassport, does my company pay a 8% fee to receive the payment?

07-20-2003, 09:44 AM	#101
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	100 dollah fees! __________________ Sig heil

07-20-2003, 10:27 AM	#107
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	I like epassporte and just received my electron card on Friday __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!

07-20-2003, 11:16 AM	#109
ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	i'm waiting for my electron too. __________________

07-20-2003, 11:51 AM	#110
dchottie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 894	I still do not understand though. I have to go to the trouble of verifying my account with these services - epassport, stormpay or any of the rest of them - so that they know that it is a valid account and I am not trying to commit fraud. Why in the hell am I getting charged such an outrageous amount to transfer money from my bank account to load my accounts with these companies. That would be like sending a payment in on your Visa card and having to add 10% to your payment total just for sending a payment. And just out of curiosity. If I put say $500 in my account with any of these companies and it sits there a month or two. Does the company that I have the account with draw interest on that? I can understand charging me to transfer that money into my bank account (which paypal didn't) and I can understand a charge at an ATM and I can understand a charge on the merchant end for receiving payment (as it would be if you used a card in any store) but I for one am not going to use a service that charges me to put my money in an account. If moneybookers does not charge me to put money in an account then I would definately go for that type of service over any others. I for one though will continue to use my paypal account. __________________

07-20-2003, 11:57 AM	#111
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	currently I can use my electron card for atm withdrawls but not purchases.. __________________ Sig heil

07-20-2003, 09:52 AM	#103
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	All I can say is that ePassporte has a really cool ad running right now with a really hot chick in it!

07-21-2003, 06:08 AM	#117
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	at least there are no taxes. __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

07-21-2003, 08:23 AM	#125
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	damn and I can still remember when paypal first came out.... I think it was 100% free and they gave you $5 without much verification. I miss those gravy days.

07-21-2003, 09:41 AM	#135
jeffs Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chair Posts: 135	Is anyone else having a problem loading MoneyBookers? It just sits there and refreshes every 30 seconds on both of my PCs.