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  • Randy Andy
    Registered User
    • Feb 2003
    • 63

    #1

    epassporte fees suck

    I was looking at getting an epassporte commercial account mainly because of so many posts on this board recommending them as an alternative to paypal. I buy and sell traffic and was considering using them as a payment solution for customers buying traffic. Well I was shocked to learn of their fees. Firstly, they don't mention their fees anywhere on their site (unlike paypal) so I had to call. I was then told that there was an 8% fee to receive funds. When I replied that I thought that 8% was much higher than what the competition charged I received the reply "but paypal doesn't accept adult anymore". Sounds to me that epassporte is exploiting adult webmasters because many of many of them can't use paypal now. Why should epassporte fees be so much higher for the same service webmasters received before with paypal. I understand that Epassporte also charges 5% to the payor to load their account. Paypal charges nothing. So why is everyone recommending epassporte as the best thing in a long time. I was also shocked to find that when I received the contract that I was required to fax a copy of my passport with my application. This is from a company based offshore in the Carribean. I think a better idea would be for the operators of this company faxing me and every other webmaster using their service a copy of their passports. Sounds to me that they won't be around to long if this is how they conduct business.
  • Daymare
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2002
    • 2674

    #2
    Those fees suck. BOOOOOOOOO to epassporte

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    • Jakke PNG
      ex-TeenGodFather
      • Nov 2001
      • 20306

      #3
      Epassporte makes me happy
      ..and I'm off.

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      • DaLord
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 3318

        #4
        Epassporte just plain suck. End of story.

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        • Sly_RJ
          Live Hard - Die Hard
          • Feb 2002
          • 17042

          #5
          I've heard good things about Stormpay as well. I created an ePassporte account to use at Party Poker. That's probably all I'll use it for.

          If they charge 8% to receive money from others, and that other person already paid 5% to load the money into their account, that's a total of $13 that they've made from that same $100. Sorry honey, not gonna happen...
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          • Paul Markham
            Too old to care
            • Jun 2001
            • 52942

            #6
            Originally posted by TeenGodFather
            Epassporte makes me happy
            I'm pissed off with them.

            I eventually got my Electron card, so that I can withdraw my money from theis bank account. Been with them two months and have the grand sum of $800 in the account. Less than we take a day with MultiCards.

            The ATM let me take out $185 so what about the rest?

            ePassporte are not that good, you get an order with the payment via them. The order gets cancelled when the buyer sees the $5 in every $50 or part of $50 (yes $51 costs him $61) and the verification system.



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            • Jakke PNG
              ex-TeenGodFather
              • Nov 2001
              • 20306

              #7
              Originally posted by charly
              I'm pissed off with them.

              I eventually got my Electron card, so that I can withdraw my money from theis bank account. Been with them two months and have the grand sum of $800 in the account. Less than we take a day with MultiCards.

              The ATM let me take out $185 so what about the rest?

              ePassporte are not that good, you get an order with the payment via them. The order gets cancelled when the buyer sees the $5 in every $50 or part of $50 (yes $51 costs him $61) and the verification system.
              I just sent you a few hundred bucks yesterday via epassporte. Stop crying

              Yeah, I've been trying to get them to raise my atm limit. I managed to get ?400/day from atms... I WANT that limit higher. I'm gonna live off epassporte account while in internext... $400/day isn't enough!

              That's the only bad thing.
              ..of course fee's are always too high
              ..and I'm off.

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              • FlyingIguana
                aspiring banker
                • Mar 2002
                • 10870

                #8
                damn and i thought paypal fees were high.

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                • swedguy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 7981

                  #9
                  PayPal is great for withdrawing money.

                  Your daily spending limit is: $3,000
                  Your daily ATM cash withdrawal limit is: $400

                  The fee for withdrawing money at an ATM is $1.
                  Bank account -> PayPal account: $0
                  PayPal account -> Bank account: $0

                  PayPal is good for something

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                  • sandman!
                    Icq: 14420613
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 15431

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Randy Andy
                    I was looking at getting an epassporte commercial account mainly because of so many posts on this board recommending them as an alternative to paypal. I buy and sell traffic and was considering using them as a payment solution for customers buying traffic. Well I was shocked to learn of their fees. Firstly, they don't mention their fees anywhere on their site (unlike paypal) so I had to call. I was then told that there was an 8% fee to receive funds. When I replied that I thought that 8% was much higher than what the competition charged I received the reply "but paypal doesn't accept adult anymore". Sounds to me that epassporte is exploiting adult webmasters because many of many of them can't use paypal now. Why should epassporte fees be so much higher for the same service webmasters received before with paypal. I understand that Epassporte also charges 5% to the payor to load their account. Paypal charges nothing. So why is everyone recommending epassporte as the best thing in a long time. I was also shocked to find that when I received the contract that I was required to fax a copy of my passport with my application. This is from a company based offshore in the Carribean. I think a better idea would be for the operators of this company faxing me and every other webmaster using their service a copy of their passports. Sounds to me that they won't be around to long if this is how they conduct business.
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                    • funkmaster
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 7938

                      #11
                      wait until mr. taxman finds out about your epassport account ....

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                      • flashfreak
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 4396

                        #12
                        one word: moneybookers
                        beat this: 1% fees, up to EUR 0.5
                        more about their fees: http://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=fees

                        and surprise: they're in UK , not in a so called fiscal paradise.
                        and they work worldwide...

                        now that I gave you so much valuable info if you consider joining please do it under my referral : https://www.moneybookers.com/app/register.pl?rid=111764
                        Last edited by flashfreak; 07-19-2003, 02:17 PM.
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                        • directfiesta
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 30137

                          #13
                          Comments from KimmyKim ???
                          I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                          But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                          • flashfreak
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 4396

                            #14
                            Originally posted by directfiesta
                            Comments from KimmyKim ???
                            aren't you tired of the same old song?
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                            • directfiesta
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 30137

                              #15
                              Originally posted by flashfreak

                              aren't you tired of the same old song?
                              Sure am.
                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                              • flashfreak
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 4396

                                #16
                                oh, forgot to say smth: they're adult friendly too ;)
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                                • okdesign
                                  ICQ 278367136
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 24773

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                  Epassporte makes me happy
                                  me too

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                                  • Kimmykim
                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 16015

                                    #18
                                    TGF -- you gotta quit asking me for things on Friday afternoon, I dont control the process, and by the time I relay the requests it's too late to get someone to clear it --

                                    As for the fees being too high, well let's see.

                                    You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard.

                                    The costs of doing business are simply what they are. When someone takes on the risk of the transaction for you, and relieves you of a huge part of the fraud and chargeback ratio allowances, AND does it in a manner that doesn't kill your wallet, it is up to you as to whether or not you want to use it.

                                    I'm not going to make you, I'm not even going to tell you that you have to, and I'm not even going to strongly suggest you do.

                                    I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens with all the new MC and Visa stuff, after I've watched Paypal pull out, and then we'll see who's watching what

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                                    • pornJester
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 6138

                                      #19
                                      check this article out, it talks about their fees....

                                      http://www.webmastervault.com/tip-ep...stormpay.shtml


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                                      • SpaceAce
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 6493

                                        #20
                                        I looked into epassporte, saw their fees and almost had a seizure from laughter. If they make you happy, good for you. I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. I won't even consider using them to send money to other people, much less collect payments through them.

                                        SpaceAce

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                                        • Kimmykim
                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 16015

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pornJester
                                          check this article out, it talks about their fees....

                                          http://www.webmastervault.com/tip-ep...stormpay.shtml
                                          Nice article, not 100% accurate but not bad.

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                                          • pornJester
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2001
                                            • 6138

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                            Nice article, not 100% accurate but not bad.
                                            i guess they can never really be 100% unless one has extensive experience with the subject in question.

                                            if you'd like to write me up something i'd be more than happy to publish it


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                                            • thekebie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 1046

                                              #23
                                              epassport should just charge the receiving buisness I think. Even though that is what I would be in the case of using them, it makes the customer more open to using them.

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                                              • Paul Markham
                                                Too old to care
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 52942

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                I just sent you a few hundred bucks yesterday via epassporte. Stop crying

                                                Yeah, I've been trying to get them to raise my atm limit. I managed to get ?400/day from atms... I WANT that limit higher. I'm gonna live off epassporte account while in internext... $400/day isn't enough!

                                                That's the only bad thing.
                                                ..of course fee's are always too high
                                                Thanks for the order TGF and the plug. But what is the use if I cannot get the money out? Looks like my limit is $200 a day.

                                                Not much use if I start doing a lot of business through them.

                                                ePassporte have three major problems.

                                                (1) The signing up process, if you cannot access your CC statement online you have problems signing up. It is also weighted towards Americans. They charge you an ammount in dollars.

                                                (2) Charging the client to deposit money.

                                                (3) They do not send an email to the seller to confirm payment. This one is very strange and I can't see why they don't do it.
                                                Last edited by Paul Markham; 07-19-2003, 10:52 PM.



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                                                • Matt_WildCash
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 1699

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow I was going to use them on our paysites for people joining and was even thinking about paying affliates via epassporte but screw losing 10% + of the money in transit. Western union only charge 5% and thats still a lot to lose when your talking big money.

                                                  If stormpay can charge 3% i'm sure epassporte could too. I guess there either not able to or don't want too. I think i'll stick to paypal for affliate payouts.

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                                                  • buddyjuf

                                                    #26
                                                    nothing can beat 25% WU fees

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                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 16015

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Driven
                                                      Wow I was going to use them on our paysites for people joining and was even thinking about paying affliates via epassporte but screw losing 10% + of the money in transit. Western union only charge 5% and thats still a lot to lose when your talking big money.

                                                      If stormpay can charge 3% i'm sure epassporte could too. I guess there either not able to or don't want too. I think i'll stick to paypal for affliate payouts.
                                                      If you were going to lose all that money in paying out affiliates I guess it would be a different story then wouldn't it?

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                                                      • Kimmykim
                                                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 16015

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pornJester


                                                        i guess they can never really be 100% unless one has extensive experience with the subject in question.

                                                        if you'd like to write me up something i'd be more than happy to publish it
                                                        Corrections or you would rather ask me questions? I can go either way with you

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                                                        • Mr.Fiction
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 9484

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                          You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard.
                                                          What consumer pays to use a credit card these days?
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                                                          • PM2
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 504

                                                            #30
                                                            hey...lets all jerk eachother off


                                                            spanks!

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                                                            • Kimmykim
                                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 16015

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                              What consumer pays to use a credit card these days?
                                                              The ones that pay their bill, duh.

                                                              And the ones that have co-branded cards like my very own B of A AmWest card...

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                                                              • John3
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 1214

                                                                #32
                                                                there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money?

                                                                and then there's that pesky thing called interest

                                                                Hook 'em.

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                                                                • Kimmykim
                                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 16015

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by John3
                                                                  there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money?

                                                                  and then there's that pesky thing called interest
                                                                  Hush up now, if you start making sense this could get ugly ;)

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                                                                  • FlyingIguana
                                                                    aspiring banker
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 10870

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by John3
                                                                    there is no such thing as a credit card without fees . . . how else do you suppose they make their money?

                                                                    and then there's that pesky thing called interest
                                                                    if you pay it off there are no fees or interest. it costs nothing to use and nothing to write cheques.

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                                                                    • John3
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 1214

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                      if you pay it off there are no fees or interest. it costs nothing to use and nothing to write cheques.
                                                                      huh? how do you write a check with a credit card?

                                                                      Hook 'em.

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                                                                      • directfiesta
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 30137

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I am not charged any fees to use my credit cards as long as I pay the balance due on time. One of them is a gold card, still no fees.

                                                                        THe merchant pays the fees.

                                                                        So I really don't get your post:
                                                                        quote:
                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                        You pay as a consumer to use a Visa or Mastercard, you pay as a merchant to accept a Visa or Mastercard.
                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                        Makes no fucking sense.

                                                                        Epassport should only charge the " merchant " the fees they feel they require to operate and that the merchant can support.

                                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 16015

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                          if you pay it off there are no fees or interest. it costs nothing to use and nothing to write cheques.
                                                                          Um, sure.

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                                                                          • FlyingIguana
                                                                            aspiring banker
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 10870

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by John3

                                                                            huh? how do you write a check with a credit card?
                                                                            easy, they give you cheques. then you use them.

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                                                                            • FlyingIguana
                                                                              aspiring banker
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 10870

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                              Um, sure.
                                                                              have your ever used a credit card? lets see no fees and you pay off the balance and no interest. where's the fees?

                                                                              there are none...

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                                                                              • Kimmykim
                                                                                bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 16015

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                                have your ever used a credit card? lets see no fees and you pay off the balance and no interest. where's the fees?

                                                                                there are none...
                                                                                Sorry to tell you this but B of A charges a yearly on any of their co-branded cards that give you points or miles.

                                                                                My Mastercard carries a 35 buck a year fee too, whether or not you pay it off.

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                                                                                • FlyingIguana
                                                                                  aspiring banker
                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                  • 10870

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                  Sorry to tell you this but B of A charges a yearly on any of their co-branded cards that give you points or miles.

                                                                                  My Mastercard carries a 35 buck a year fee too, whether or not you pay it off.
                                                                                  thats nice, you know there are other banks that offer credit cards? some cards don't have any fees...

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                                                                                  • John3
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 1214

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Ok, there are credit cards and then there are check cards issued thru your local bank. While check cards carry the MC or VISA logo, they are NOT credit cards.

                                                                                    Unless the Canadian system is different, you can't write a check on a credit card account, and there are fees on all credit cards. And I'd imagine that even if your local bank DID issue you a cerdit card then there are fees attached - generally to your checking account is that is where the card is attached

                                                                                    Hook 'em.

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                                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 16015

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by FlyingIguana


                                                                                      thats nice, you know there are other banks that offer credit cards? some cards don't have any fees...
                                                                                      I'll take the miles, you know the 1 for every dollar I spend and the doubles on transactions with the airline?

                                                                                      America West FlightFund Platinum Visa
                                                                                      ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE (APR) Prime + 6.99%
                                                                                      ANNUAL FEE $75
                                                                                      CREDIT LINE Up to $100,000
                                                                                      ONLINE ACCOUNT ACCESS YesGG
                                                                                      KEY BENEFIT Up to 7,000 Bonus MilesHH

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                                                                                      • Jakke PNG
                                                                                        ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                                        • 20306

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                        TGF -- you gotta quit asking me for things on Friday afternoon, I dont control the process, and by the time I relay the requests it's too late to get someone to clear it --
                                                                                        Sorry. I've lost track of days, I usually send mails when I remember them.. regardless of date and time.
                                                                                        But, I think someone got on my case anyways. Thanks.
                                                                                        ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 16015

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by John3

                                                                                          Unless the Canadian system is different, you can't write a check on a credit card account, and there are fees on all credit cards. And I'd imagine that even if your local bank DID issue you a cerdit card then there are fees attached - generally to your checking account is that is where the card is attached
                                                                                          Not always true, PaineWebber will let you write checks against certain accounts they carry, including margin accounts if you are set up right. It's basically writing a loan to yourself, same thing with some home equity accounts.

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                                                                                          • FlyingIguana
                                                                                            aspiring banker
                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                            • 10870

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                            I'll take the miles, you know the 1 for every dollar I spend and the doubles on transactions with the airline?

                                                                                            America West FlightFund Platinum Visa
                                                                                            ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE (APR) Prime + 6.99%
                                                                                            ANNUAL FEE $75
                                                                                            CREDIT LINE Up to $100,000
                                                                                            ONLINE ACCOUNT ACCESS YesGG
                                                                                            KEY BENEFIT Up to 7,000 Bonus MilesHH
                                                                                            then you're paying for the perks.

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                                                                                            • directfiesta
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 30137

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                              I'll take the miles, you know the 1 for every dollar I spend and the doubles on transactions with the airline?

                                                                                              America West FlightFund Platinum Visa
                                                                                              ANNUAL PERCENTAGE RATE (APR) Prime + 6.99%
                                                                                              ANNUAL FEE $75
                                                                                              CREDIT LINE Up to $100,000
                                                                                              ONLINE ACCOUNT ACCESS YesGG
                                                                                              KEY BENEFIT Up to 7,000 Bonus MilesHH
                                                                                              All " premium cards" . I have one that gives me a blowjob rwice a year.. lol.

                                                                                              Does Epassport gives 'miles", travel insurrance, etc...

                                                                                              There are no fees credit card. Please don't get me to post captures of bank pages.

                                                                                              My TD Gold givews me check, travel insurrance, online access and the whistles: NO FEES>


                                                                                              here are NO FEES:

                                                                                              https://www.tdcanadatrust.com/tdvisa/nofee.jsp

                                                                                              I undestand you are selling your stuff and that is fine, but don't sell it by spreading lies...
                                                                                              Last edited by directfiesta; 07-20-2003, 01:26 AM.
                                                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                              • quiet
                                                                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                                • 25115

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by John3
                                                                                                Ok, there are credit cards and then there are check cards issued thru your local bank. While check cards carry the MC or VISA logo, they are NOT credit cards.
                                                                                                my mc card issued me checks i can use to charge the card. i don't use them, but they definitely exist.

                                                                                                as far as fees, i pay my card off each month, so my only fee is a single annual of around 40 bucks for the enhanced airmiles.
                                                                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                                • John3
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 1214

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                                  Not always true, PaineWebber will let you write checks against certain accounts they carry, including margin accounts if you are set up right. It's basically writing a loan to yourself, same thing with some home equity accounts.
                                                                                                  Yeah, I have a VISA attached to something similar, but I was assuming most people here wouldn't have a credit card set-up that way.

                                                                                                  Plus, my broker is involved = fees ;)

                                                                                                  Hook 'em.

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                                                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 16015

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                    I undestand you are selling your stuff and that is fine, but don't sell it by spreading lies...
                                                                                                    No lies here bud, I just spelled out exactly what I was talking about.

                                                                                                    ePassporte offers the opportunity to shop online or withdraw money from any ATM anonymously and globally.

                                                                                                    It is a world of new opportunity.

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