acting or prostitution? - GoFuckYourself.com

afrocreep · 07-12-2003, 11:20 AM

A possible biz partner has brought up a concern which he thinks is a grey area in the law.

When you pay ir even if you don't pay someone for acting (i refer it to acting) in a porn movie or in pictures can it not be considered prostitution?

I said no, because you are paying them to act/model and not to have sex. However he said it could be said otherwise.

Maybe my general model release form is too general but uh. i guess it should specifiy that? Even though it says we shall be held harmless etc etc and they should back us up

He is concerned if some locals find out and start shit like we are running a prostitution ring ir some BS which he aren't it could seriously do some PR damage because we also have other jobs in the community which are reputation is depending upon.

I could use some thoughts, I will recommend we use his lawyer for advice (hah he can pay for it)

But still i'd like some thoughts on this

StacyCat · 07-12-2003, 11:21 AM

the act of filming sex doesnt make it not prostitution. However, the act of paying for sex is prostitution. Let me go look up the supreme court rulling, brb.

Xplicit · 07-12-2003, 11:22 AM

Old news.

Wanna fuck a slut? Call it 'content' and your in the clear

vegas2003 · 07-12-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by afrocreep
A possible biz partner has brought up a concern which he thinks is a grey area in the law.

When you pay ir even if you don't pay someone for acting (i refer it to acting) in a porn movie or in pictures can it not be considered prostitution?

I said no, because you are paying them to act/model and not to have sex. However he said it could be said otherwise.

Maybe my general model release form is too general but uh. i guess it should specifiy that? Even though it says we shall be held harmless etc etc and they should back us up

He is concerned if some locals find out and start shit like we are running a prostitution ring ir some BS which he aren't it could seriously do some PR damage because we also have other jobs in the community which are reputation is depending upon.

I could use some thoughts, I will recommend we use his lawyer for advice (hah he can pay for it)

But still i'd like some thoughts on this

I think the reason you can pay people to work in porn videos is because the person paying is not paying for sexual gratification-they are doing it purely for business

liquidmoe · 07-12-2003, 11:23 AM

Odd I never really considered that but it certainly does make sense, I mean you are paying for the act of sex, but then again I'm not 100% clear on what the illegal portion of prostitution entails.

afrocreep · 07-12-2003, 11:25 AM

well since "all the other cool kids are doing it" isn't a valid defense i thought i'd ask this one..

i could be like.. murdered by masses of church folk here. hah

Fletch XXX · 07-12-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Odd I never really considered that but it certainly does make sense, I mean you are paying for the act of sex, but then again I'm not 100% clear on what the illegal portion of prostitution entails.

Youre not PAYING FOR THE SEXUAL ACT.

Youre paying to film it.

afrocreep · 07-12-2003, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Youre not PAYING FOR THE SEXUAL ACT.

Youre paying to film it.

ya thats what i told my guy but he said how can i prove thats what i'm doing, i couldn't really answer that.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-12-2003, 01:45 PM

Think of sex as an expression of art.

afrocreep · 07-12-2003, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Think of sex as an expression of art.

ya but dude, it doesn't matter what i/we think

goBigtime · 07-12-2003, 01:52 PM

Have them sign the release form before you pay them.

easyfun · 07-12-2003, 01:55 PM

Quote:

I think the reason you can pay people to work in porn videos is because the person paying is not paying for sexual gratification-they are doing it purely for business

If you jerk off while filming, then you are in deep shit!!!

Imageauction · 07-12-2003, 04:53 PM

You need to read this

http://articles.ynotmasters.com/publ...le.cgi?ID=2549

although it appears you are in Canada. Perhaps you should consult an attorney!

NBDesign · 07-12-2003, 05:01 PM

it falls under artistic freedom of expression. you are paying to have actors act a part with a production crew, this is not a personal exchange of money for personal pleasure.

or something like that.

Rictor · 07-12-2003, 05:06 PM

It's legal until your local authorities say otherwise. If they decide what you are doing counts as obscenity, then they can put a stop to it. Temporarily.

But you would most likely win in court due to precedent and similar first amendment trials. These days it would be hard to prove that porn is obsenity unless you live in a community where no porn magazines are sold, no videos are rented, and there are no strip clubs. Then I'd be scared.

afrocreep · 07-12-2003, 06:30 PM

well trying they tried to close down the strip club but they can't so they are going to control how it operates. hah. now i'm scared lol

But you can rent porn movies in different places. and you can buy porn mags in many stores. now i'm feeling safer.

Basically i plan on being discreet but i will consult a lawyer.

07-12-2003, 11:20 AM	#1
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	acting or prostitution? A possible biz partner has brought up a concern which he thinks is a grey area in the law. When you pay ir even if you don't pay someone for acting (i refer it to acting) in a porn movie or in pictures can it not be considered prostitution? I said no, because you are paying them to act/model and not to have sex. However he said it could be said otherwise. Maybe my general model release form is too general but uh. i guess it should specifiy that? Even though it says we shall be held harmless etc etc and they should back us up He is concerned if some locals find out and start shit like we are running a prostitution ring ir some BS which he aren't it could seriously do some PR damage because we also have other jobs in the community which are reputation is depending upon. I could use some thoughts, I will recommend we use his lawyer for advice (hah he can pay for it) But still i'd like some thoughts on this

07-12-2003, 01:45 PM	#9
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Think of sex as an expression of art. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

07-12-2003, 04:53 PM	#13
Imageauction Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 355	You need to read this http://articles.ynotmasters.com/publ...le.cgi?ID=2549 although it appears you are in Canada. Perhaps you should consult an attorney! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

07-12-2003, 05:01 PM	#14
NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	it falls under artistic freedom of expression. you are paying to have actors act a part with a production crew, this is not a personal exchange of money for personal pleasure. or something like that. __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

07-12-2003, 11:21 AM	#2
StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	the act of filming sex doesnt make it not prostitution. However, the act of paying for sex is prostitution. Let me go look up the supreme court rulling, brb.

07-12-2003, 11:22 AM	#3
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Old news. Wanna fuck a slut? Call it 'content' and your in the clear

07-12-2003, 11:23 AM	#5
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Odd I never really considered that but it certainly does make sense, I mean you are paying for the act of sex, but then again I'm not 100% clear on what the illegal portion of prostitution entails.

07-12-2003, 11:25 AM	#6
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	well since "all the other cool kids are doing it" isn't a valid defense i thought i'd ask this one.. i could be like.. murdered by masses of church folk here. hah

07-12-2003, 01:52 PM	#11
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Have them sign the release form before you pay them.

07-12-2003, 05:06 PM	#15
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	It's legal until your local authorities say otherwise. If they decide what you are doing counts as obscenity, then they can put a stop to it. Temporarily. But you would most likely win in court due to precedent and similar first amendment trials. These days it would be hard to prove that porn is obsenity unless you live in a community where no porn magazines are sold, no videos are rented, and there are no strip clubs. Then I'd be scared.

07-12-2003, 06:30 PM	#16
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	well trying they tried to close down the strip club but they can't so they are going to control how it operates. hah. now i'm scared lol But you can rent porn movies in different places. and you can buy porn mags in many stores. now i'm feeling safer. Basically i plan on being discreet but i will consult a lawyer.