Apparently Photo Gregg Had a little run in - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

vapewiz · 07-11-2003, 10:23 AM

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Fuck the police!

JMM · 07-11-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

No, actually that IS all there is to zoning laws regarding "home offices". I have another business that is run from my partners house. We checked into local zoning laws before we did it. Nice try though. What is considered "excessive traffic" is obviously open to interpretation though.

1. You are WRONG. There is more to zoning laws regarding a home office than traffic impact.

2. This wasnt a home office. This was a hardcore pornography studio. They were doing more than stapling and filing.

pornJester · 07-11-2003, 10:32 AM

that sucks, I hope Gregg gets it all straightened out.

freeme · 07-11-2003, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Gabriel

The key word being renters, not home owners.

wrong

Carrie · 07-11-2003, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
If there were 20 cars lining the street and they were shooting on the roof or the front yard, I could understand but that isn't the case.

But isn't this *going to be* the case during Internext, when they'll be renting out the studios to photographers, having Kitty come through doing exclusive content shoots, and having "tons of girls on hand" to get whatever content you need done?
I can imagine there will be a *lot* of cars and people milling around those 4 days.

Babaganoosh · 07-11-2003, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by JMM

1. You are WRONG. There is more to zoning laws regarding a home office than traffic impact.

2. This wasnt a home office. This was a hardcore pornography studio. They were doing more than stapling and filing.

It doesn't matter how big you type "WRONG". You are wrong. Do some reading. The law makes no distinctions as to what type of activities are illegal in your home business. This qualifies as a home office, like it or not.

Babaganoosh · 07-11-2003, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Carrie

But isn't this *going to be* the case during Internext, when they'll be renting out the studios to photographers, having Kitty come through doing exclusive content shoots, and having "tons of girls on hand" to get whatever content you need done?
I can imagine there will be a *lot* of cars and people milling around those 4 days.

So you can't entertain a few guests on a special occasion? I find it highly unlikely anyone will be shut down for anything that hasn't happened yet. Even if they do have a house full of people, they will have to prove that it's related to business which will be impossible for them to do.

Dax · 07-11-2003, 11:34 AM

ok... So.. for those who say the running a buisness inside his house....

If he runs his busines and does not allow anyone to be on the outside.. so nobody has an idea of what is he doing.. is wrong..

So what if he was to throw a party every other day.. no business going.. just about 200 girls/guys showing off in very very skimpy outfits.. So is that ok.. to do.. as long as is done between 4 pm and 10 pm..

So what happens there? I mean.. parties are not illegal.. and as long as the girls/guys are not naked.. they can wear w/e small piece of clothing they want.... so that should be ok right?

Gregg wish u the best of luck in this!

JMM · 07-11-2003, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

It doesn't matter how big you type "WRONG". You are wrong. Do some reading. The law makes no distinctions as to what type of activities are illegal in your home business. This qualifies as a home office, like it or not.

You are WRONG.

May I purchase the house directly next to yours and open up my home based fertilizer plant? There will be a total of 5 employees, all of whom will live on the premises.

Would it be ok in your town if I purchased the house next to yours and opened a home based nuclear testing facility? There will be a total of 5 employees, all of whom will live on the premises.

Zoning laws are about more than simply traffic. Get a clue. Even in commercially zoned areas there are restrictions on what you can and cannot do.

Rich · 07-11-2003, 11:44 AM

I wouldn't want porn being filmed in on my street either. Although that bitch comparing porn with sexual predators needs a swift kick to the face.

Dax · 07-11-2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by JMM

You are WRONG.

May I purchase the house directly next to yours and open up my home based fertilizer plant? There will be a total of 5 employees, all of whom will live on the premises.

Would it be ok in your town if I purchased the house next to yours and opened a home based nuclear testing facility? There will be a total of 5 employees, all of whom will live on the premises.

Zoning laws are about more than simply traffic. Get a clue. Even in commercially zoned areas there are restrictions on what you can and cannot do.

Dude lay off the crack... Nuclear plant.. lol that is funny!

Rich · 07-11-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Dax

Dude lay off the crack... Nuclear plant.. lol that is funny!

He's making a point, a correct one, that there are always zoning regulations.

afrocreep · 07-11-2003, 12:10 PM

some replies are pretty stupid.. gregg from what i understand had a regular looking house but had girls coming to it and shot shit INSIDE and not on the front lawn with a big sign saying kids get in free.

It was personal property with private matters taking place which was not made known to the public nor intended to be made to the public.
But now the public has been made aware and all the stupid people starting saying their stupid stuff not knowning what actually is/was going on so they make assumptions and tell everyone their bullshit.

PhotoGreggXXX · 07-11-2003, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by foe
The case will be brought before the town's special master on Aug. 12, Poliakoff said. Such offenses carry a fine as high as $250 per violation.

I hope he doenst go out of business

LMAO....hahaha...$250 is daily beer budget...I can go 1 day without beer

PhotoGreggXXX · 07-11-2003, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by Dax
ok... So.. for those who say the running a buisness inside his house....

If he runs his busines and does not allow anyone to be on the outside.. so nobody has an idea of what is he doing.. is wrong..

So what if he was to throw a party every other day.. no business going.. just about 200 girls/guys showing off in very very skimpy outfits.. So is that ok.. to do.. as long as is done between 4 pm and 10 pm..

So what happens there? I mean.. parties are not illegal.. and as long as the girls/guys are not naked.. they can wear w/e small piece of clothing they want.... so that should be ok right?

Gregg wish u the best of luck in this!

Thanks DAX...no problems, our landlord has 50 more houses and is personally getting way interested in going overboard to help us with this.

Just to clear up things:

We didn't invite the cops inside...one cop came to "check out the property for a stolen atv that was seen in our back yard". One cop checked our back yard, then started asking for everyone's ID....went downhill from there...6 cop cars, and a few mean ones pushing their power.

We didn't even get a ticket because at the time we were'nt shooting and no business was being operating.

I wasn't arrested, fined or cited.

and one last thing...I need input from the folks on the board....is JMM really that stupid of a mother fucker? Reading his posts is cracking me up

JMM · 07-11-2003, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX

and one last thing...I need input from the folks on the board....is JMM really that stupid of a mother fucker? Reading his posts is cracking me up

Ahh..I see we have come to the point in the conversation where you have run out of anything of substance to say and have resorted to calling me a stupid motherfucker. Then again, this is GFY and we are on the second page of the thread which means it took longer than usual.

I do not believe that producing hardcore pornography in a residential neighborhood on a regular basis is right, legal, or proper. If that makes me a stupid motherfucker, then send the hat. It is one that I will wear proudly. I'm in the business, and if you did it in my neighborhood, I would run you out as well.

For the sake of argument, lets just assume that 99% of the GFY'ers agree with you, re: me being a stupid motherfucker. I consider that a compliment.

BradShaw · 07-11-2003, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX

LMAO....hahaha...$250 is daily beer budget...I can go 1 day without beer

If you want to be a legit producer, get a studio in an industrial area, where it is legal. You have no business running a hardcore porn studio next to kids like Lightspeed used to do. IMHO, you should face criminal charges for such stupidity.

As for JMM, he is one of the smartest fuckers I know and makes alot of sense.

uptheyingyang · 07-11-2003, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

1. You have no idea what the neighbors knew or did not know.

2. Law's exist to prevent problems FROM happening. They also exist to deal with problems after they happen.

Again.. a residential neighborhood with families and children is not the place to be producing this kind of material on a regular basis.

And we all sit here and wonder why people despise us and our industry so much.

absolutely true.

PhotoGreggXXX · 07-11-2003, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

If you want to be a legit producer, get a studio in an industrial area, where it is legal. You have no business running a hardcore porn studio next to kids like Lightspeed used to do. IMHO, you should face criminal charges for such stupidity.

As for JMM, he is one of the smartest fuckers I know and makes alot of sense.

this is getting funny.

Brad, I moved from a 5000 foot warehouse because a house is better for our customers needs. A house with 3 acres of private back yard works for our many customers that do well with outdoor content. This isn't the first or last time I'll get a little heat for what I do.

Unfortunately, everything we do, everywhere we do it, is marginal with local law enforcement codes. Your fuck a billionaire site...do your producers buy permits for every outdoor location they shoot at as required by law...of course not...you go with the flow and get what you need and weigh the risks.

As for your comment "if you want to be a legitimate producer"
all I can say is we produce for companies doing far better than you are...they are happy with our work because the sites convert and retain.

Thats biz Brad...convert and retain...when you're ready for a "real producer" for a some quality work...talk to me at Internext. Yeah, I push the limits to get our customers some awesome product and I'm going to keep doing it.

Babaganoosh · 07-11-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

You are WRONG.

May I purchase the house directly next to yours and open up my home based fertilizer plant? There will be a total of 5 employees, all of whom will live on the premises.

Would it be ok in your town if I purchased the house next to yours and opened a home based nuclear testing facility? There will be a total of 5 employees, all of whom will live on the premises.

Zoning laws are about more than simply traffic. Get a clue. Even in commercially zoned areas there are restrictions on what you can and cannot do.

You are totally clueless, aren't you? We're not talking about nuclear facilities. We're talking about a few people making smut in a house. A regular 'ol house. No signs, no driveway and street full of cars, no nuclear reactor. If you want to move into my neighborhood and start producing porn in your living room, there isn't a damned thing the home owners association or city can do about it. It's a home based business that does not violate any laws.

I don't care what my neighbors like. What I do in my house isn't up to them. Don't like seeing people fucking? Don't come over. Don't try to pretend it's a violation of law. It isn't. Sex offends a lot of people. If this were a guy taking pictures of flowers in his house, there wouldn't be a problem.

PhotoGreggXXX · 07-11-2003, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

I do not believe that producing hardcore pornography in a residential neighborhood on a regular basis is right, legal, or proper. If that makes me a stupid motherfucker, then send the hat. It is one that I will wear proudly.

Hey JMM.
Send me your address and I'll get a hat saying "I'm a stupid MotherFucker" Be sure to wear it proudly.

Here's why:

No matter where I produce porn, there is someone or something or some business within blocks that won't approve of what I do unless I buy a private island somewhere...of course it may be difficult to recruit and find talent...duhhhh. Ooops sorry to have to explain...forgot you're not too smart.

We were not visited by the police for producing porn...read the article again...can you read? Oh yeah...another point for the free hat.

When I had a 5000 foot warehouse and spent $40k to make it into a dream studio, we had problems...no legal issues, just neighborhood businesses that didn't like the "kind of girls" that kept coming and going into the studio...problem with that is cops kept harassing people coming and going.

Solution: move to a new location, new sets, new variety of content for our customers. My neighbors had no idea of what we were doing because we shoot inside the house and in a very private 3 acre backyard with security gates and privacy fences. Our backyard is is 200 yards from the street and we've done "scream"sound checks to see if any noise can be detected...none.

Anyway, I'll probably move 1-2 times a year for the rest of my life...reason: produce great quality content, provide constantly changing and unique locations for our customers. After 5 years of producing for the big boys in the biz...this is part of my biz.

So anyway...send your address: I'll send you your hat.

JMM · 07-11-2003, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

You are totally clueless, aren't you? We're not talking about nuclear facilities. We're talking about a few people making smut in a house. A regular 'ol house. No signs, no driveway and street full of cars, no nuclear reactor. If you want to move into my neighborhood and start producing porn in your living room, there isn't a damned thing the home owners association or city can do about it. It's a home based business that does not violate any laws.

I don't care what my neighbors like. What I do in my house isn't up to them. Don't like seeing people fucking? Don't come over. Don't try to pretend it's a violation of law. It isn't. Sex offends a lot of people. If this were a guy taking pictures of flowers in his house, there wouldn't be a problem.

Yeah..I'm clueless..nice retort.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...sed+businesses

Go visit all those websites and make sure you email them and tell them how clueless they are as well. You are smarter than all of them and know more than they will ever know.

If you are operating a business in your home, there are laws. Those laws are based on many factors, one of which is how your business affects the neighbors. There are others as well.

crockett · 07-11-2003, 02:02 PM

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"You know what Al Capone was arrested on? I'm at least glad Southwest Ranches could get them on running a business. Sometimes, that's the way a government works.''

dude it's like they think everyone in the porn industry is some scumbag breaking laws and running CP sites... people need to wake the hell up ....

good luck with the court case...maybe you will get more traffic on you're site... put you're URL in a window of the house lol

Babaganoosh · 07-11-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

Yeah..I'm clueless..nice retort.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...sed+businesses

Go visit all those websites and make sure you email them and tell them how clueless they are as well. You are smarter than all of them and know more than they will ever know.

If you are operating a business in your home, there are laws. Those laws are based on many factors, one of which is how your business affects the neighbors. There are others as well.

HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS?!?! ANSWER THAT NOW!!!!!!

VideoJ · 07-11-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

If you want to be a legit producer, get a studio in an industrial area, where it is legal. You have no business running a hardcore porn studio next to kids like Lightspeed used to do. IMHO, you should face criminal charges for such stupidity.

As for JMM, he is one of the smartest fuckers I know and makes alot of sense.

Why? What we're doing is quite legal, even the officer said so. The only issue is whether we're licensed for it and if I wanted to spend the money I could fight it in the courts and get the license. I got better things to do with my money.

We're in the middle of 7.5 acres of wooded property (Gregg has it wrong). If there is any impact on the neighbors when we're shooting I'd be amazed. We picked this place for just that reason.

If JMM is one of the smartest fuckers you know, that doesn't say a whole lot for your associates. JMM thinks he 's a wit, he's only half right.

homegrownmof · 07-11-2003, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx
appearantly some of you do not live in "nice" neighborhoods... people pay to live in certain areas...for a reason...

JMM clearly makes a point that if you can afford to rent a million dollar house .. why not just rent a studio in a commercially zoned area???

put your hand in a fire and you are going to get burnt...

Well said Greg.

If someone did that in my neighborhood I'd be pissed. Brings down the property values.

That's why some areas are ZONED for adult use.

Fuckhead Forest, when you can earn enough $$$ to buy a nice home in a nice area you will understand.

JMM · 07-11-2003, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX

Hey JMM.
Send me your address and I'll get a hat saying "I'm a stupid MotherFucker" Be sure to wear it proudly.

Here's why:

No matter where I produce porn, there is someone or something or some business within blocks that won't approve of what I do unless I buy a private island somewhere...of course it may be difficult to recruit and find talent...duhhhh. Ooops sorry to have to explain...forgot you're not too smart.

We were not visited by the police for producing porn...read the article again...can you read? Oh yeah...another point for the free hat.

When I had a 5000 foot warehouse and spent $40k to make it into a dream studio, we had problems...no legal issues, just neighborhood businesses that didn't like the "kind of girls" that kept coming and going into the studio...problem with that is cops kept harassing people coming and going.

Solution: move to a new location, new sets, new variety of content for our customers. My neighbors had no idea of what we were doing because we shoot inside the house and in a very private 3 acre backyard with security gates and privacy fences. Our backyard is is 200 yards from the street and we've done "scream"sound checks to see if any noise can be detected...none.

Anyway, I'll probably move 1-2 times a year for the rest of my life...reason: produce great quality content, provide constantly changing and unique locations for our customers. After 5 years of producing for the big boys in the biz...this is part of my biz.

So anyway...send your address: I'll send you your hat.

So once again, your brilliant response is to attack my intelligence, of which you know nothing about.

There are laws. Follow them or don't, it's your choice. If you do, you don't have anything to worry about, if you don't, then you face the consequences.

Producing hardcore porn in a residential neighborhood is wrong, and apparently in your case not legal.

http://www.miami.com/images/miami/mi...9406873183.jpg

Is that the house? Did the photographer fail to capture the gates and fences?

You honestly want someone to believe that a scream cannot be heard from 200 yards?

I'm also curious about your ability to cram 50 pounds of shit into a 25 pound bag. The property you were using is 2.26 acres. Can you enlighten GFY how you were able to fit a 3 acre backyard into a property that is only 2.26 acres??

JMM · 07-11-2003, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS?!?! ANSWER THAT NOW!!!!!!

How does it affect the neighbors?????????? You don't understand how it affects the neighbors?

Do you have children?

EscortBiz · 07-11-2003, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

How does it affect the neighbors?????????? You don't understand how it affects the neighbors?

Do you have children?

Ok smart man make sure you followed all laws your wentire life the dogs are lose watch whats gonna happen guys

BradShaw · 07-11-2003, 02:29 PM

"even the officer said so"

It may come down to a judge, not an officer it looks like. I would not rely on an officer for legal advice.

JMM · 07-11-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

Why? What we're doing is quite legal, even the officer said so. The only issue is whether we're licensed for it and if I wanted to spend the money I could fight it in the courts and get the license. I got better things to do with my money.

We're in the middle of 7.5 acres of wooded property (Gregg has it wrong). If there is any impact on the neighbors when we're shooting I'd be amazed. We picked this place for just that reason.

If JMM is one of the smartest fuckers you know, that doesn't say a whole lot for your associates. JMM thinks he 's a wit, he's only half right.

I NEVER said that producing pornography in Broward county is illegal, did I?

I said producing it on a regular basis in a residential neighborhood is illegal, which apparently it is. It is also wrong from a moral/ethical/common sense viewpoint.

As for your halfwit comment..just brilliant. Did you just make that up, because I have never heard that joke before. Again, I must say brilliant. Next you are going to ask me why the chicken crossed the road. Hurry and give me the answer because I can't wait to laugh some more.

I'm done with you guys. Gregg, Arm, you, your only answer is to call me a dumb motherfucker, which speaks volumes about you, not me.

Babaganoosh · 07-11-2003, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

How does it affect the neighbors?????????? You don't understand how it affects the neighbors?

Do you have children?

It doesn't matter if I have kids or not. What I do in my house is my business (assuming it doesn't break any laws). You sound like one of those idiots who tries to run a gay couple out of a neighborhood because sodomy is immoral. We're not talking about morals here. We're talking about laws. I higly doubt Gregg is inviting the neighborhood kids over for cookies and porn.

freeme · 07-11-2003, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

over for cookies and porn.

new menu at my party

cookies and porn

would you like milk with your porn???

JMM · 07-11-2003, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ

Why? What we're doing is quite legal, even the officer said so. The only issue is whether we're licensed for it and if I wanted to spend the money I could fight it in the courts and get the license. I got better things to do with my money.

I got $500 that says you will NEVER have a license to produce hardcore porn in that house. Produce a permanent business license that shows you do and I will paypal the funds.

freeme · 07-11-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

I got $500 that says you will NEVER have a license to produce hardcore porn in that house. Produce a permanent business license that shows you do and I will paypal the funds.

occupational license count???

BradShaw · 07-11-2003, 02:38 PM

owned by jmm.

GotGauge · 07-11-2003, 02:57 PM

You guys are forgetting,
These are not In town living on tp of each other houses.....LOL

He has two-acre rural house......

I make fun of the people that buy 100K house and have about 2 feet of lawn shared with anothe 100K house and so on....

GotGauge · 07-11-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by JMM

How does it affect the neighbors?????????? You don't understand how it affects the neighbors?

Do you have children?

What does children matter?

I didn't see anything about nudity being outside?
Everything is taking place inside the house, 2 acres rual house I might add.

Do the kids need to know what is going on inside the house?
Do you drive by a strip club and tell them what is going on inside there?

If there is sexual acts taking place outside where children can see, then it is wrong......

I have a friend that lives right beside a food bank.
Cars and People coming and going all day.
I assume they are getting food, but I have no idea what is going
on inside...

freeadultcontent · 07-11-2003, 03:20 PM

My

Since this is a private dwelling, everyone is concenting adults, and this is a form of expression and all.

"Liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions into a dwelling or other private places. In our tradition the State is not omnipresent in the home. And there are other spheres of our lives and existence, outside the home, where the State should not be a dominant presence. Freedom extends beyond spatial bounds. Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. The instant case involves liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions."

Justice Kennedy - June 26, 2003

Ok I will shut up now.

VideoJ · 07-11-2003, 03:40 PM

JMM couldn't own me if he had the intelligence and wealth of Bill Gates.

JMM, sarcasm should be subtle and pointed, not heavy handed and repetitive.

And are you licensed to practice law in the state of Florida and are you familiar with the cases regarding zoning and adult businesses here? If you're not, why are you showing your ignorance? My comments are based on my research and my discussions with lawyers who practice here.

Regarding the children, that's the one area I agree with everyone. I do NOT permit any children on my property and the house is set so far back that the only way anyone can find out what is going on is to jump a fence and be on the property. I do not want children exposed to what we do here, this is for adults only.

That being said, what I do in the privacy of my home is my business so long as it doesn't have an impact on my neighbors. And unless they have x-ray vision or are tresspassing they can't know what I'm doing. I'm sure my neighbors do things I don't agree with, but I don't care as long as they don't expose me to their personal life.

VideoJ · 07-11-2003, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
"even the officer said so"

It may come down to a judge, not an officer it looks like. I would not rely on an officer for legal advice.

No I don't rely on officer's opinions on legal matters, but if you knew the history of the law and adult entertainment here in Broward county, this was a very telling statment.

afrocreep · 07-11-2003, 03:46 PM

Maude Flanders:
Won't somebody please think of the children?!

Wanna know what i think of the children? I think their parents should teach them something.

I mean its not like gregg was running a petting zoo for kids, wtf are they doing on his private property in the first place? if that has even ever happened! Some dumb Maude Flanders will make shit up say kids watched anal through a window or something. I highly doubt it.

Hey gregg remember that time you spent 8 hours on the middle of the street filming that gangbang? Neither do i...

PhotoGreggXXX · 07-11-2003, 03:51 PM

Hmmm....had to look at Jmm's content site and of course I have to laugh...all his morality bullshit and here I see Dave Cummings selling his content on the site...many sets in an outdoor setting...Just wondering what kind of "wharehouse" has a yard like that ?

Obviously this idiot is slamming our content for making it outdoors in a private yard...and he is selling the same thing on his site....so dumbass...you want a hat saying "I'm a dumbass"...give me your address

By the way, we're shooting at a miami condo tomorrow...yep...there's neighbors...maybe kids, but they happen to be within every block of anywhere there is a building in this country...duhhhhh

freeadultcontent · 07-11-2003, 03:52 PM

Honestly it is covered in what I posted, try going above the US Supreme Court.

Lil hint, it was not just about sodomy.

When you go into zoning or running a business from your home, then its a lil different. Yet I guarentee you that a large percentage of the residents around you do it as well.

From bringing some work home from the office, to making deals on the phone, to catering. I promise you they are in the same violation. Will they kick them all out as well?

Adult Zoning goes into having customers coming and going, and traffic. It was set up because it can cause blight in an area or be a haven for unwanted individuals lurking arounds (i.e. higher crime rates) None of which you are even doing.

This is not a porn case, it is not an adult case, hell this isnt even a case.

freeme · 07-11-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Honestly it is covered in what I posted, try going above the US Supreme Court.

Lil hint, it was not just about sodomy.

When you go into zoning or running a business from your home, then its a lil different. Yet I guarentee you that a large percentage of the residents around you do it as well.

From bringing some work home from the office, to making deals on the phone, to catering. I promise you they are in the same violation. Will they kick them all out as well?

Adult Zoning goes into having customers coming and going, and traffic. It was set up because it can cause blight in an area or be a haven for unwanted individuals lurking arounds (i.e. higher crime rates) None of which you are even doing.

This is not a porn case, it is not an adult case, hell this isnt even a case.

EXCELLENT POST and point!!

gregg shoot here when ever you need bro

2 houses no waiting

JMM · 07-11-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX
Hmmm....had to look at Jmm's content site and of course I have to laugh...all his morality bullshit and here I see Dave Cummings selling his content on the site...many sets in an outdoor setting...Just wondering what kind of "wharehouse" has a yard like that ?

Obviously this idiot is slamming our content for making it outdoors in a private yard...and he is selling the same thing on his site....so dumbass...you want a hat saying "I'm a dumbass"...give me your address

By the way, we're shooting at a miami condo tomorrow...yep...there's neighbors...maybe kids, but they happen to be within every block of anywhere there is a building in this country...duhhhhh

I have gone from stupid motherfucker, to dumbass and idiot. Your communication skills overwhelm me.

Gregg...did I say any disparaging remarks about you? Can you have an intelligent conversation without resorting to such?

Can you read? If you can read, do you have the ability to comprehend the words that you do read?

Did I ever say shooting outside was wrong? No. Many shoot outside. You want to attack Dave, take your best shot, there is probably not a more honest, concerned, ethical person in this business than Dave Cummings. Shooting outdoors in a controlled situation is a FAR CRY from operating a hardcore studio on a regular, daily basis in a residential neighborhood. The two are nothing alike. I can guarantee you that when Dave shoots outdoors it is a controlled situation.

You said that you interview and hire models daily. Do these models come to your studio or are these phone internviews? You and I both know that the women/men that do this work are not always the highest caliber of people. Do you think that just maybe the people living in these homes, raising their families in these homes have a right to do this without having to be exposed to this? Of course they do. Do you think that the woman mentioned in the article has a right to raise her children, letting them play in their neighborhood, without having to worry about what her children may stumble upon while playing in their neighborhood? Of course she does.

I have no problem with what you do. I have no problem with how you do it. My problem is WHERE you do it. My comment was simple, a residential neighborhood is no place for a hardcore studio to operate on a regular basis, day in, and day out. If this is so hard to understand, then I am stumped on how to make it more clear.

I still am curious how a 2.26 acre property has a 3 acre backyard. Better yet, 7.5 wooded acres.

Go ahead..respond in your normal style. You have already used stupid motherfucker, idiot, and dumbass. I look forward to what comes next.

afrocreep · 07-11-2003, 04:17 PM

fuck off and die already jmm

PhotoGreggXXX · 07-11-2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by afrocreep
fuck off and die already jmm

hahaha
have to agree with you afrocreep...this guy has no clue

He sells content done in backyards of residential neighborhoods like mine and then bitches about someone else doing it....hahahha...okay JMM...going to have to add "retard" to your list of names

afrocreep · 07-11-2003, 04:25 PM

i don't even care what the fuck if anything or how often jmm does. i could care less.

Webby · 07-11-2003, 04:29 PM

Sheesh... what a load of crap over some licence re property use!!

It ain't exactly an executable offense.. least not yet!

Good luck PhotoGreggXXX !

07-11-2003, 10:32 AM	#53
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07-11-2003, 02:29 PM	#80
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07-11-2003, 02:38 PM	#86
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07-11-2003, 02:57 PM	#87
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	You guys are forgetting, These are not In town living on tp of each other houses.....LOL He has two-acre rural house...... I make fun of the people that buy 100K house and have about 2 feet of lawn shared with anothe 100K house and so on.... __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

07-11-2003, 03:20 PM	#89
freeadultcontent Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: "evitcepsrep ruoy egnahc" Posts: 9,976	My Since this is a private dwelling, everyone is concenting adults, and this is a form of expression and all. "Liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions into a dwelling or other private places. In our tradition the State is not omnipresent in the home. And there are other spheres of our lives and existence, outside the home, where the State should not be a dominant presence. Freedom extends beyond spatial bounds. Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. The instant case involves liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions." Justice Kennedy - June 26, 2003 Ok I will shut up now. __________________ Exclusive Ethnic & Microniche Sites

07-11-2003, 10:23 AM	#51
vapewiz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,530	50 Fuck the police!

07-11-2003, 11:34 AM	#58
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	ok... So.. for those who say the running a buisness inside his house.... If he runs his busines and does not allow anyone to be on the outside.. so nobody has an idea of what is he doing.. is wrong.. So what if he was to throw a party every other day.. no business going.. just about 200 girls/guys showing off in very very skimpy outfits.. So is that ok.. to do.. as long as is done between 4 pm and 10 pm.. So what happens there? I mean.. parties are not illegal.. and as long as the girls/guys are not naked.. they can wear w/e small piece of clothing they want.... so that should be ok right? Gregg wish u the best of luck in this!

07-11-2003, 11:44 AM	#60
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I wouldn't want porn being filmed in on my street either. Although that bitch comparing porn with sexual predators needs a swift kick to the face.

07-11-2003, 12:10 PM	#63
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	some replies are pretty stupid.. gregg from what i understand had a regular looking house but had girls coming to it and shot shit INSIDE and not on the front lawn with a big sign saying kids get in free. It was personal property with private matters taking place which was not made known to the public nor intended to be made to the public. But now the public has been made aware and all the stupid people starting saying their stupid stuff not knowning what actually is/was going on so they make assumptions and tell everyone their bullshit.

07-11-2003, 03:40 PM	#90
VideoJ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 750	JMM couldn't own me if he had the intelligence and wealth of Bill Gates. JMM, sarcasm should be subtle and pointed, not heavy handed and repetitive. And are you licensed to practice law in the state of Florida and are you familiar with the cases regarding zoning and adult businesses here? If you're not, why are you showing your ignorance? My comments are based on my research and my discussions with lawyers who practice here. Regarding the children, that's the one area I agree with everyone. I do NOT permit any children on my property and the house is set so far back that the only way anyone can find out what is going on is to jump a fence and be on the property. I do not want children exposed to what we do here, this is for adults only. That being said, what I do in the privacy of my home is my business so long as it doesn't have an impact on my neighbors. And unless they have x-ray vision or are tresspassing they can't know what I'm doing. I'm sure my neighbors do things I don't agree with, but I don't care as long as they don't expose me to their personal life. __________________ Somebody stole my damn signture...

07-11-2003, 03:46 PM	#92
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	Maude Flanders: Won't somebody please think of the children?! Wanna know what i think of the children? I think their parents should teach them something. I mean its not like gregg was running a petting zoo for kids, wtf are they doing on his private property in the first place? if that has even ever happened! Some dumb Maude Flanders will make shit up say kids watched anal through a window or something. I highly doubt it. Hey gregg remember that time you spent 8 hours on the middle of the street filming that gangbang? Neither do i... Last edited by afrocreep; 07-11-2003 at 03:48 PM..

07-11-2003, 03:51 PM	#93
PhotoGreggXXX Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,616	Hmmm....had to look at Jmm's content site and of course I have to laugh...all his morality bullshit and here I see Dave Cummings selling his content on the site...many sets in an outdoor setting...Just wondering what kind of "wharehouse" has a yard like that ? Obviously this idiot is slamming our content for making it outdoors in a private yard...and he is selling the same thing on his site....so dumbass...you want a hat saying "I'm a dumbass"...give me your address By the way, we're shooting at a miami condo tomorrow...yep...there's neighbors...maybe kids, but they happen to be within every block of anywhere there is a building in this country...duhhhhh __________________ PornPayouts! Tons of Exclusive new HI Dev Videos... Home of the WeDo Girls! e-mail: [email protected] ICQ - 138-053-157

07-11-2003, 03:52 PM	#94
freeadultcontent Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: "evitcepsrep ruoy egnahc" Posts: 9,976	Honestly it is covered in what I posted, try going above the US Supreme Court. Lil hint, it was not just about sodomy. When you go into zoning or running a business from your home, then its a lil different. Yet I guarentee you that a large percentage of the residents around you do it as well. From bringing some work home from the office, to making deals on the phone, to catering. I promise you they are in the same violation. Will they kick them all out as well? Adult Zoning goes into having customers coming and going, and traffic. It was set up because it can cause blight in an area or be a haven for unwanted individuals lurking arounds (i.e. higher crime rates) None of which you are even doing. This is not a porn case, it is not an adult case, hell this isnt even a case. __________________ Exclusive Ethnic & Microniche Sites

07-11-2003, 04:17 PM	#97
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	fuck off and die already jmm

07-11-2003, 04:25 PM	#99
afrocreep Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 1,074	i don't even care what the fuck if anything or how often jmm does. i could care less.

07-11-2003, 04:29 PM	#100
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Sheesh... what a load of crap over some licence re property use!! It ain't exactly an executable offense.. least not yet! Good luck PhotoGreggXXX !