wonton

That's right. Wonton is back in town. As a matter of fact he never left. He has patiently been monitoring the sad, sad sheep of GFY posting their usual banalities.

Time to stir up the shit again and inject some actual critical thinking in this community. Your officials have lied to you. Check out this article based on documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.


There Were No Arabs on Flight 77 !!!!!!!!



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XxXotic

autopsies can't determine if someone is a muslim extremist. don't need to be an arab as far as I can tell to be a fucking psycho religious freak

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liquidmoe

You want to stir up some shit here you go. Consider the fact that before 9/11 occurred the main subject in the news was the financial fiasco of Enron. The problem is that majority of the people do not realize the scope of this scam and how many high level players were involved. Then comes 9/11 and all news of Enron suddenly vanishes.

It's certainly a possibility that this was perpertrated by Americans or not an Arab terrorist organization. After all an Arab terrorist organization's priority would be to instill a constant level of fear or a deterioration of the standard of living which is much better accomplished through consistent acts of terrorism, as in Israel, rather than single events. Not to mention the amount of planning that went into these attacks, there is no reason to believe that a second set of attacks would not be planned. But if it was a cover up and it served its purpose then there is no need for extra fanfare.

Just a thought. Could be wrong, could be right.

wonton

Most of the Enron documents that implicated their executives in major illegalities were stored - you guessed it - in the WTC!

I'm not saying that Enron execs had anything to do with 911 but they certainly had access to power, all the way up to Bush. Might as well kill as many birds with one stone as possible if you are the power Elite.

wonton

Right but that's not the point. The point is that the autopsies accounted for 100% of the passangers who were all traced back to being non-arab Americans.

There were no bodies that traced back to either arab famalies or even to unidentified sources.

All bodies were identified as non-arab, American passengers.

Where were the hijackers? Did their bodies magically disintegrate?

liquidmoe

Fits in nicely with the theory of cover up, much more so than a terrorist organization. And this wouldnt be the first time that American terrorism was perpertrated by Americans so its not that far fetched. In fact more terrorism on American soil has probably occured by our own than others.

JFK, Unabomber, Timothy McViegh

Damian_Maxcash

John Walker Lindh wasnt Arab, but he was a muslim extremist...

wonton

And as far as incentive goes, look at what 911 has "bought" the military-industrial complex of America - the invasion of the middle east. Our troops now sit on the second largest oil reserves on the planet in Iraq. Don't forget that besides the non-existant WMD, the platform for going into Iraq was rumors of alliances between Saddam and the "terrorists".

And with forward bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, we now surround Iran. It's just a matter of time before we plunder their country as well. 911 has given the powers that be carte blanche to do whatever they want, including eviscerating huge sections of the constitution and bill of rights via the Patriot Act and Homeland Security.

Can anyone say with a straight face that there was not a huge amount to gain for the Power Elite by setting up a 911?

wonton

And by the way, in case any sheep are actually paying attention, six of the supposed 911 hijackers actually turned up alive!!!!!

This fact has received very minimal press in the US but Insight Magazine and the BBC have at least run some articles on it.


Hijackers are Alive !!!!!!

BBC Article about living Hijackers

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

See photo below.

The weak are widdled out. Living on this planet is a matter of survival of the fittest.
With world resources becomming limited somthing had to be done.

I don't care anymore about the Political bullshit anymore its all conspiracy no matter what direction. But the inherent instinct to survive plays a part in politics and leadership.

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Mr.Wong

What do you say about the videos where Bin Laden himself claims responsibility for these attacks? Hollywood CGI? Fucking idiots...lol.

liquidmoe

Nothing in the American media is presented that hasnt been screened and ok'd by some higher up. Its all about money from advertising, its not about the news. Real news stories are always viewed from the prospective of possible returns, dont for a second think that there is any real integrity in journalism. Even if a journalist hasnt been corrupted and is naive enough to still believe in his craft it doesnt make an ounce of difference because ahead of him are his editors and the board which only care about the bottom line. Stop believing everything you read and start thinking analyzing facts not misreported B.S.

dav555add

BBC???? Bullshit Broadcasting hahahaha
Insighmag???? Owned by the arabs
So go fuck your dog and take a hike you smelly piece of commy shit

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wonton

Bin Laden is a CIA asset and always has been one.

The Bin Laden family and Bush family have business dealings going back 50 years.

The Bin Laden family builds ALL of the US military bases in the middle east.

George Bush JR. halted an investigation of Bin Laden's brothers who were living just miles from CIA HQ in Virginia. FBI agents sued Bush over it and that case is still pending.

Bin Laden works for the CIA. Do your research and use global news sources. Don't just rely on the US press. You will be shocked at what you find. Why do you think the entire rest of the world is currently against the US? Even former allies in Europe are against us. The truth is getting out...

volante

Woudl these be the videos that the US administration had translated and released to the press?

The translations were lambasted by the press around the world for being full of inaccuracies. Except in the US...

wonton

Right. And CCN is the Pravda of our times.

And Insight Magazine owned by arabs? Show me.

As for dog fucking I already did that this morning. He is currently recovering.

As for commie - No. I am a free-thinking capitalist. You should try that some time (the free thinking part).

liquidmoe

People livingin the lap of luxury would be foolish to question their circumstances hence the majority do not and react childishly when their views, which really arent even their views are conflicted with others views. Form your own opinions I say, but then again that would require the use of brain cells so be careful, thinking hurts.

Its funny how the majority of people who use commie as a derogative term have no real conception of communism or socialism or even capitalism and democracy for that matter. Yeah for the uninformed general public.

andi_germany

I saw a documentary of the crashed of 9/11. The one of the Pentagon and the one that went down apparently of people fighting the terrorsits left no trace of an aircraft. If you see the Pentagon photos done right after the apparent crash you don't even see a hole in the outer wall. No visual aircraft pieces can be seen on any footage. The crashsite in NY has aircraft parts all over and the lesse crashes make the aircraft blow up in small bits and pieces? doubtfull

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KingK7

STFU already

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No. I am Wonton. Hear me roar.

liquidmoe

The other plane that went down supposedly when the people on board attacked the terrorists was a bunch of B.S. That plane went down because it was shot down. If the plane was taken down when people fought the terrorists it would have crashed, hence the majority or certainly large chunks of the plain would be intact and the scatter zone for the plane's parts would be quite manageable. However if I remember correctly the area over which the plane was scattered was several square miles and no large portions were recovered leading to the much more likely possibility that it was shot out of the sky, leading to the larger scatter area and also making it much more difficult to recover any really in tact portions of the plane.

liquidmoe

Would you like to contribute something constructive to the conversation?

directfiesta

Why to they call their source ' intelligence". Obviously it is everything but that....


Maybe someone needed to shift the attention from his poor performance????

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Mr.Wong

Yes, I'm quite aware of Bin Laden's family business, Saudi BinLaden Group or as they're known SBG. It's also ironic that they built the very base in Afghanistan where we launched our attack against them. I'm sure you also know that Osama's family, other than his mother, has nothing to do with Osama. There's no denying that Bush's and SBG do business together, but you're trying really hard to make a connection for 911 based on his family's business when it has nothing to do with the black sheep who his own family has disowned.

liquidmoe

Bush hasnt done one intelligent or beneficial thing for the nation since his term in office. He hasnt even proposed any beneficial legislation which has been tied up in Congress or party bickering. He is just a waste of space. Of course this isnt anything new or ground breaking, and quite expected from a man without two brain cells, but none the less.

BUSH

liquidmoe

However there is no question that America supplied Osama Bin Laden with weapons in prior conflicts and that he is in fact American sponsored. Had America followed through with actually butting out of some of the Middle East's internal business Osama would not have turned on them.

Mr.Wong

You also know that was because of the Russian invasion, who we were trying to stop. We didn't supply weapons to turn directly on us and use it for terrorism. Osama doesn't just hate America because we got involved with Israel and had troops in the Saudi Kingdom. He's against all non-muslims.

liquidmoe

It's America's shit policy of indirect action. If they want to prevent expansion or wanted to counter act Russia they should have acted directly, but supplying weapons to an individual who could become an enemy later doesnt make much sense. America's foriegn plicy has always been ridiculous and idiotic. Its all about money with no real foreign diplomacy, you reap what you sow.

wonton

If you actually buy that whole "black sheep" nonsense that is pretty sad. Just goes to show how incredibly easy it is to fool the masses.

If Hitler had a family and President Roosevelt was doing close business with the "Hitler Family" during World War II would that make any sense? Would it make sense if Roosevelt was doing business with the family of the Emperor of Japan during that same time period?

Prior to 911, the US was already "at war" so to speak with Osama Bin Laden, at least that is what we were led to believe. For the Bushes to be totally in bed with Osama's Father, brothers, grandfather and other close relatives stinks of scandal to high heaven.

It is a total, all-out criminal enterprise, from Bush to Bin Laden. The American people have been had and they are too weak, too lazy to do anything about it - yet!

wonton

And here's another one to gain insight into the Bush crime family.

In 1981 President Reagan was almost killed by John Hinkley, a supposed deraged man who was trying to "impress Jodi Foster". If Reagan died, George Bush Sr. then vice president, would have become president.

Approximately two weeks prior to attempting to assasinate Reagan, Hinkley and his brother went to a dinner at the home of Neil Bush, son of George Bush. The Hinkleys were close Republican associates of the Bushes.

Interesting how out of the 240 million people in the US, the president almost gets killed by an associate of the Vice President.

Of course that whole thing was suspicious so an inquiry was automatcially launched. The conclusion of the panel was that "nothing suspicious" was found. The head of the panel? Vice President George Bush or course.

I'll say it again. The American people have become a nation of mindless sheep. It is time to wake up and smell the coffee!

rooster

yea, sheep, sorta like believing anything a whacko puts on the net as fact.

blackmonsters

Very good point. But I have to admit that I never heard Bin-Laden on the tapes. I heard an english translator who could
have said anything he wanted to say.
Tapes can be over-dubed; not saying that they are but if we look for solid evidence and consider if we were scammed then we need more evidence than those videos. A video of Bin-laden holding up plans of the attack would be very good.

I pretty much believe the official story; but I was quite amazed at how fast we identified the suspects. It seemed miraculous.

My suspisions are being raised by the WMD.
WMD = Weapons of Mass Deception.

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wonton

If you recall, the day after 911 the FBI arrived at the scene and miraculously found all the hijackers' perfectly preserved passports in the rubble, despite the fact that everything else on that plane disintegrated. Also surprising that with all that planning the "hijackers" would be stupid enough to use their real passports.

And then six of the hijackers are later tracked by the BBC and found to be alive and not hijackers after all.

It's a total joke, just like the weapons of mass distraction.

wonton

BBC is a whacko?

Insight Magazine is a whacko?

The Sierra Times is a whacko?

I've heard about living in denial but at least come up with something to support your denial that is based on fact, as opposed to a random flippant comment.

Mike AI

Psssst.....

I hear the moon is made of cheese....

The US never landed on the moon, it was shot in a hollywood sound stage....

Elvis is alive....

The space shuttle was destroyed on purpose to kill the jewish/Isaraeli massuad agent who was going to spill the beans
about 9-11 being a plan of israel and shri lanka.

Oh and Brad Shaw has a giant cock....

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Mr.Wong

Bin Laden's brother, Hasan, coined the name "black sheep" of the family during an interview after 911 and that became the term that media outlets used. That still doesn't deny that his own family call him that.

Comparing the past "terrorizers" has nothing to do with this. We're not getting into hypothetical questions that only conclude by personal opinion. Straight to the facts, the Bin Laden family have done a lot of business in the US - period. The fact that they have done business with the Bush family has little or no bearing on the fact the Osama Bin Laden is the head of Al-Queda and their goal is to get rid of all non-muslims so they can live in a perfect world before reaching Allah. Conspiracy theories and paranoids can do nothing to get rid of that fact.

volante

Of course the US never landed on the moon - they would have sunk into the cheese!

Idiot!

directfiesta

No wonder Bin Lademn wanted revenge...just like DBYA ..

The US tried to kill him ... BEFORE 9/11.


[QUOTEWhen President Bush (news - web sites) took office in January 2001, the White House was told that Predator drones had recently spotted Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) as many as three times and officials were urged to arm the unmanned planes with missiles to kill the al-Qaida leader.[/QUOTE]

Oh, Dave555add, it's an american link ( more american than you):

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...edator_plan_18

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wonton

Gee. That's all it takes to dissociate a supposed arch-criminal from the president of the United States, eventhough their families are in bed together? Because his brother calls him a "black sheep"? I mean really. That's all it takes? The surrounding concomitant facts have no bearing at all on your assessment of the situation? For christ's sakes...

Too bad the rest of us can't use that simple line as an excuse for global crimes. John Gotti would just have to say of his son and/or henchmen, "They are black sheep" and that would end any investigation into the connection between Gotti and the guys that actually pull the trigger.

My god....

RaiDeN

why were all those scann's in that report dated 12/09/1992 ??

blackmonsters

Yeah, I would like to see the footage of that landing again though. Funny that we never show it. I think that flag was flying really fucking funny. I believe the US did it, but I'm smart enough not to beleive things blindly. If someone shows me some evidence that shows otherwise then I will consider it.

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pimplink

No arabs, maybe, but no muslims either?

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KRL

BinLaden is just the most advanced animation character Pixar Studios ever created. The CIA paid a fortune for all the footage they needed to use for all the propoganda clips. They went with Jim Carey to do the voice overs, in between shots when he was filming Ace Ventura Pet Detective. Everyone in Hollywood knows about it, why do you think so many stars have been dying recently. They were about to spill the beans.

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seven

You don't get it do you? The list of terrorists and photos government published were arab nationals.. uh-oh but not white muslims

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Mr Pheer

this thread is too full of bullshit to read

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Mr.Wong

Jesus H. In simper terms for you. At the time the two families did business, Osama was not even known of. The Bush and Bin Laden business partnership dates to 1976 when Bin Laden's family invested $50,000 into an energy company called Abusto.

Now, you're saying that Bush should protect a family member of a former business partner his father had over $50,000 because the families did business with each other almost 30 years ago?

I brought up the "black sheep" because you were trying to imply the media made it up. I told you where it came from, and you act like I'm implying that's why there's a disassociation. I was just telling you what you didn't know.

Answer this, yes or no, no bullshit in-between. Do you believe Osama Bin Laden is the head of Al-Queda and is responsible for numerous terrorist acts around the world? Simple answer yes or no.

volante

The Bin Laden family were investors in a company called "The Carlyle Group" until shortly after the 9/11 attack. They sold their holdings in an effort to reduce any adverse publicity.

Do a search for "Carlyle Group" on Google, and see who else is on the payroll...

wonton

You have some facts correct but are missing others. It was not just Arbusto. Bush Sr. also runs the Carlyle Group which has been in bed with the Bin Ladens for decades and involved in defense contracts worth billions. Bush Sr. was head of the CIA in the 1970s and had close ties to both Osama and the rest of the Bin Ladens during that time. Bin Laden's direct brothers, to this day, live a few miles from CIA HQ in Langley Virginia and have been caught on tape interacting with CIA personell. They are on the CIA payroll. When the FBI started to investigate this in 2000, Bush Jr. issued a presidential directive to call them off the case.

In response to your other question, my no-bullshit answer is that YES, Osama is head of Al-Qaeda. HOWEVER, my contention is that Al-Qaeda was a CIA creation, was and is funded by the CIA and that Osama himself takes orders directly from that organization. This has been reported in the mainstream European and Asian press and even the FBI and CIA were forced to admit to certain "contacts" with Osama in the 1990s. It is only the US press (or most of them anyway) that try to sweep all this under the rug.

The truth is a hell of a lot more complicated than the mainstream US press would have you believe. You will never get to the truth if you only rely only on them.

XYCash

I'll tell you what...I am an American citizen and that BBC article is the first time I've EVER heard of one of the alledged hijackers being alive.

I watch all the news networks faithfully and ..in all honesty this has REALLY shaken me.

-joe

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wonton

It should. More people should be shaken. Instead they are sleepwalking like zombies in this increasingly corrupt system. And it's all fine and dandy for now. We're all very comfy. But if you let corruption run rampant, it eventually turns around and bites you in the ass - hard!!