I stopped taking checks, YET the fraud continues! - GoFuckYourself.com

BVF · 06-07-2003, 05:10 PM

It's been around a month and a half since I stopped taking checks...Mainly to stop people who signed up with BS checks and then trading the password....

So now, passwords are still being frequently traded by people with legit credit cards and the customers are giving me the same bullshit explanations that the check frauders did...

It's not like I'm getting chargebacks after the password is blocked, I would assume that people are using either stolen cards or cards of their parents....

Do people ignore their credit card statements so much that they don't even bother to check their charges? I even have a check signup that's recurred for 8 months and the password is always getting blocked from being abused....It's gotta be siphoning off some unwilling party's money...

OneHungLo · 06-07-2003, 05:15 PM

I doubt its legit people purchasing memberships and giving out the passwords, you probably have some bots hacking your password file.

Jon2 · 06-07-2003, 05:27 PM

The only way to stop this is using some sort of members access script which keeps track of who is logging in...Do you use this method? If so you shouldn't have much problems?

Jon

Shoplifter · 06-07-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by BVF

It's not like I'm getting chargebacks after the password is blocked, I would assume that people are using either stolen cards or cards of their parents....

This is a pretty common problem....I will often block an ID with Pennywize expecting to get an email from the user but I never do.

9 out of 10 times I find that the ID has a Hotmail or Yahoo email address associated with it.

Kimmykim · 06-07-2003, 06:02 PM

Perhaps the password traders are buying memberships in order to put the passes out there?

psyko514 · 06-07-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Perhaps the password traders are buying memberships in order to put the passes out there?

that just doesn't make sense.

amph · 06-07-2003, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Perhaps the password traders are buying memberships in order to put the passes out there?

Xplicit · 06-07-2003, 06:21 PM

I can say this from experience, THEY ARE DEFINATELY STOLEN CARDS.

You'd be shocked at how long some of these cards work.

If they last long, most likely these kids got their hands some companies credit card that uses it a lot, and does not check their report.

gothweb · 06-07-2003, 06:31 PM

I wonder... If they are password "traders", then some of them might be willing to pay for a membership if they get other memberships out of it. Buy one, get 10 free, right?

Still, the answer is simple... Password Sentry. I love it.

Mr.Fiction · 06-07-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Perhaps the password traders are buying memberships in order to put the passes out there?

Maybe the password trading websites are buying them? It's pretty cheap "content" for their sites, compared to what normal webmasters pay.

Kimmykim · 06-07-2003, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Maybe the password trading websites are buying them? It's pretty cheap "content" for their sites, compared to what normal webmasters pay.

I'd do it if I were a pass trader

psyko514 · 06-07-2003, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

I'd do it if I were a pass trader

"If".

You sure seem to know a lot about password trading...

BJ · 06-07-2003, 09:50 PM

I love the FBI

Kimmykim · 06-07-2003, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

"If".

You sure seem to know a lot about password trading...

I know alot about space but that don't make me a rocket scientist.

psyko514 · 06-07-2003, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

I know alot about space but that don't make me a rocket scientist.

It might make you an astronomer though.

Rich · 06-08-2003, 12:34 AM

I'm drunk, what's up with this thread? Kimmy Kim's a password trader now? lol

Gutterboy · 06-08-2003, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by Xplicit
You'd be shocked at how long some of these cards work.

More than four years ago I paid for my first site membership (clubseventeen.com) with a generic corporate CC I had access to as a network admin.

Still rebilling today

KRL · 06-08-2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy

More than four years ago I paid for my first site membership (clubseventeen.com) with a generic corporate CC I had access to as a network admin.

Still rebilling today

That is funny as hell!

goBigtime · 06-08-2003, 12:44 AM

Check out iProtect from http://www.digital-concepts.net/cgi-iprotect.html

If you ask real nice you can probably get a deal on it. That page/site hasn't been updated since like 1999... but the iprotect module kicks ass for password abuse.

On the other hand, you might also want to make sure you get the latest version of your processors scripts. I pretty sure that CCbill & IBill both had some problems.. either with their scripts or their auth codes getting stolen or something.

In fact, if you use CCbill or IBill with pw management, you should just ask them to issue you a new auth code & make sure the script is the latest version.

Rich · 06-08-2003, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
Check out iProtect from http://www.digital-concepts.net/cgi-iprotect.html

If you ask real nice you can probably get a deal on it. That page/site hasn't been updated since like 1999... but the iprotect module kicks ass for password abuse.

On the other hand, you might also want to make sure you get the latest version of your processors scripts. I pretty sure that CCbill & IBill both had some problems.. either with their scripts or their auth codes getting stolen or something.

In fact, if you use CCbill or IBill with pw management, you should just ask them to issue you a new auth code & make sure the script is the latest version.

lol, if you use ibill, chances are you have bigger problems than password traders.

chupacabra · 06-08-2003, 12:52 AM

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Still, the answer is simple... Password Sentry. I love it.

cash69 · 06-08-2003, 01:04 AM

it's sites like www.thepasswordlist.com .. they get alot of traffic... my site went up on there and there was about 100 people trying to login per minute

Stramm · 06-08-2003, 01:49 AM

I found it stops when you change username and password and email that to your customers. And it's a good move not to let them choose their own combination but have the script generate it.

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06-07-2003, 05:15 PM	#2
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	I doubt its legit people purchasing memberships and giving out the passwords, you probably have some bots hacking your password file.

06-07-2003, 05:27 PM	#3
Jon2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,875	The only way to stop this is using some sort of members access script which keeps track of who is logging in...Do you use this method? If so you shouldn't have much problems? Jon

06-07-2003, 06:02 PM	#5
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Perhaps the password traders are buying memberships in order to put the passes out there?

06-07-2003, 06:21 PM	#8
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	I can say this from experience, THEY ARE DEFINATELY STOLEN CARDS. You'd be shocked at how long some of these cards work. If they last long, most likely these kids got their hands some companies credit card that uses it a lot, and does not check their report.

06-07-2003, 09:50 PM	#13
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	I love the FBI

06-08-2003, 12:34 AM	#16
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I'm drunk, what's up with this thread? Kimmy Kim's a password trader now? lol

06-08-2003, 12:44 AM	#19
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Check out iProtect from http://www.digital-concepts.net/cgi-iprotect.html If you ask real nice you can probably get a deal on it. That page/site hasn't been updated since like 1999... but the iprotect module kicks ass for password abuse. On the other hand, you might also want to make sure you get the latest version of your processors scripts. I pretty sure that CCbill & IBill both had some problems.. either with their scripts or their auth codes getting stolen or something. In fact, if you use CCbill or IBill with pw management, you should just ask them to issue you a new auth code & make sure the script is the latest version.

06-08-2003, 01:04 AM	#22
cash69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chandler, az Posts: 1,052	it's sites like www.thepasswordlist.com .. they get alot of traffic... my site went up on there and there was about 100 people trying to login per minute

06-08-2003, 01:49 AM	#23
Stramm Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NL Posts: 342	I found it stops when you change username and password and email that to your customers. And it's a good move not to let them choose their own combination but have the script generate it.