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Old 05-26-2003, 05:08 PM   #101
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Old 05-26-2003, 05:12 PM   #102
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What this president is doing to the Muslim world is just going to ensure that the US gets more and more suicide bombers.

Unless you want to just kill all muslims? That might work, until you run out of obvious muslims and it's just the ones that can "pass" that are left doing the suicide bombings.

"Whatever it takes" is not something that should be in the American vocabulary. Your grandfathers fought and died in WW2 to protect the freedoms that Bush and company legislate away every year in the name of "security"

Bush isn't Hitler. Yet. Some more blind "patriotism" and Nationalism (just like pre-WW2 Germany, strangely enough) - and he just might get the chance. Safe bet: Get the fucking moron out of office now.

Labret is absolutely right: Current Administation - Xian Taliban. They just don't have the power they'd like to have yet, so no one is getting stoned, just arrested.
Wow, not too bright about world affairs are we Backov?
""What this president is doing to the Muslim world"' is holding them accountable for terrorism and murder.
They offered to overpay turkey for their insignificant help in its war with iraq (turkey, just one more muslim country that couldn't be counted on to fight terrorism) We're sending millions of dollars in pakhastan to hunt down terrorists (what type of country doesn't hunt down its own terrorists? oh, yeah, muslim countries)
We're investing billions of dollars in Qatar (a muslim country who's trying to go democratic)
We're spending billions in iraq to free muslims from sadaam. (please trot out your argument that we weren't there to free muslims but were there to help GW's friends. I love that moronic line of thought best)
We're making Israel make peace with palestininan murderers who should be shot on site, not given peace (oh, yeah, they are muslims too)

so please, explain to us ""What this president is doing to the Muslim world"' that you find so offensive.
otherwise, shut the fuck up.
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Old 05-26-2003, 05:17 PM   #103
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we have planty of unsettle scores with Iran
- Cobal towers in Saudi Arabia, bombed by Iranians
- in 83 Iranian backed Hesbulla in Lebanon killed 100s of our Marines

plus Israeli Embassy bombings in Argentian in mid 90s
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Has the US found any weapons of mass destruction yet since taking over Iraq?.....just checking, haven't really paid much attention lately!
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Has the US found any weapons of mass destruction yet since taking over Iraq?.....just checking, haven't really paid much attention lately!
nope. but for the intelligent amoung us, it was never a requirement.
The UN gave them 10 years to hide them. Syria, Iran, a hole in the ground? it doesn't matter. That's what the rest of the terrorist countries will soon learn. If you have the intent to kill innocent people of the US, you'll get your wish to see heaven
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nope. but for the intelligent amoung us, it was never a requirement.
I presume there is no point in posting the Colin Powell presentation to the UN and the "address to the Nation" speach by GW....

I love it how you can just change an already " consumed" agenda...

Maybe tomorrow we will find out that Sadaam was a philanthropist ( lol ) and then you will say that the " requirement" was never to overturn the dictator ... ( new reasons: give to the shiites freedom of expression .... )

BTW, what was the requirement for the " intelligent" among you ???
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The point about 9/11 is not where individual hijackers come from. The point of 9/11 is...attacks on the continental USA will not be tolerated...and the terrorists are from Muslim countries.

There were multiple reasons for the invasion of Iraq and one of those reasons was to send a message to the Muslim countries...get your act together or face the consequences. The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one, if they are perceived to be hostile towards the USA...including Saudi Arabia.
Bullshit, Is U.S enough brave to attack Turkey? Look we are different than any other Muslim and Arab countries so before talking about something consider what you are talking about or learn a bit
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BTW, what was the requirement for the " intelligent" among you ???
Be rid of a dictator who harbors terrorists. Stop spending millions patrolling a no fly zone in perpetuity, stop coddling a defeated enemy who attacked an ally and has no intention of abiding by the articles of surrender they signed because the UN has the back bone of a "direct fiesta"
Everything else is a side benefit to the muslim world but they, like you, aren't bright enough to understand it.
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Bullshit, Is U.S enough brave to attack Turkey? Look we are different than any other Muslim and Arab countries so before talking about something consider what you are talking about or learn a bit
You're no different assclown. Oh, and attack turkey? by lunch time tough guy.
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No President Bush did not lie...as those were stated reasons and were a part of a mulitude of reasons. It is ridiculous for anyone to keep repeating...the President said this and the President said that.
Although it was a bit amuzing when the Russian foreign minister initially said UN cannot lift sanctions in Iraq until it was clear that there were no WMDs, attempting to embarass the White House to essentially come out saying there are no WMDs. No such statement came from Washington. I wonder how much this privileged silence cost the American taxpayer (not to mention Czechen separatist rebels) in contracts awarded, $$$, etc. for the russians to stop bitching when the french were already kissing Bush's ass. Classic Catch 22
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Bullshit, Is U.S enough brave to attack Turkey? Look we are different than any other Muslim and Arab countries so before talking about something consider what you are talking about or learn a bit
Question...is Turkey overtly hostile to the USA? Question is Turkey harboring/financing terrorists to atttack the USA?

"The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one, if they are perceived to be hostile towards the USA...including Saudi Arabia."

Read and comprehend before you post.
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I suppose the "New Century" gang are the one to measure that " perception"....

The USA have changed from a peacefull respecting nation to a militarian invading country ( and not only with arms and troops ... )...

So sad ....

http://www.newamericancentury.org/index.html

Not to mention racist when you identify a whole religion as an " ennemy"..

A bit like saying all jews are occupiers.... maybe they are!
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I suppose the "New Century" gang are the one to measure that " perception"....

The USA have changed from a peacefull respecting nation to a militarian invading country ( and not only with arms and troops ... )...

So sad ....

http://www.newamericancentury.org/index.html

Not to mention racist when you identify a whole religion as an " ennemy"..

A bit like saying all jews are occupiers.... maybe they are!
If you are suggesting that I have identified a whole religion as an enemy...please quote where I said that. It is countries that are overtly hostile to the USA and/or harboring/financing those that are.

Please identify the year the USA "changed from a peacefull respecting nation to a militarian invading country" As I recall the USA has always delt with percieved enemies by engaging its military when it is deemed to be necessary.

There is nothing new about the President...the Congress and the American people deciding who, or who does not, represent a threat to the USA...its assests...or its interests.
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If you are suggesting that I have identified a whole religion as an enemy...please quote where I said that. It is countries that are overtly hostile to the USA and/or harboring/financing those that are.

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"The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one,
I " perceive" that phrase to be the one.

By the way, there is no such thing as a " muslim" country, neither a "christian" country or even a "mormon" country.
FYI, countries are made of different people, with different religion.
Iraq is quite a nice example ...

So yes, youre comment is racist, but not surprising.
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I " perceive" that phrase to be the one.

By the way, there is no such thing as a " muslim" country, neither a "christian" country or even a "mormon" country.
FYI, countries are made of different people, with different religion.
Iraq is quite a nice example ...

So yes, youre comment is racist, but not surprising.
I percieve that you did not quote the whole statement.

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The USA will dismantle every Muslim country, one by one, if they are perceived to be hostile towards the USA...including Saudi Arabia.
There are countries that are "predominately" Muslim...Christian etc. But then again you know that...your arguements are getting weak...but that is not surprising.

As for the "racist" remark...opinions are like....
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I amazes me the utter tripe that people have in "opinions" - we all got one, but some ya just gotta just ignore.

My "opinion" for what tis worth - and it don't matter one fuck either ways - is that the US is totally buggered if it continues along the lines of the "Bush doctrine" - in fact I feel sorry for the people in the US who played no part in this and will end up paying the price.

On the other side, there is a deviant group, relatively small at this stage, who wanna "take revenge" on the Western world (and their own countries for cooperating with the Western world) for some of the great things the civilized West "helped" them with over some decades, - "help" they sure did not need.

Never get the idea there is any "winner" in this, - it does not matter a toss how many bombers there are, - you can't beat a group of "like minded" people who can strike anywhere and cause havoc for less than $50K. Spending billions to protect against this is pointless.

Until some on both sides of the fence get into the real world and have an inkling of a clue as to what it is about, there is little hope.

US now openly saying it wishes to "destablize Iran"? Gimme a break and send Bush, Cheney and Wolfowitz to Huntsville for an injection and start electing some proper President, - not some ignorant candy store cowboy trash that was appointed by a court and who has done more than any terrorist organization to cause vast damage to the US.
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I amazes me the utter tripe that people have in "opinions" - we all got one, but some ya just gotta just ignore.

My "opinion" for what tis worth - and it don't matter one fuck either ways - is that the US is totally buggered if it continues along the lines of the "Bush doctrine" - in fact I feel sorry for the people in the US who played no part in this and will end up paying the price.

On the other side, there is a deviant group, relatively small at this stage, who wanna "take revenge" on the Western world (and their own countries for cooperating with the Western world) for some of the great things the civilized West "helped" them with over some decades, - "help" they sure did not need.

Never get the idea there is any "winner" in this, - it does not matter a toss how many bombers there are, - you can't beat a group of "like minded" people who can strike anywhere and cause havoc for less than $50K. Spending billions to protect against this is pointless.

Until some on both sides of the fence get into the real world and have an inkling of a clue as to what it is about, there is little hope.

US now openly saying it wishes to "destablize Iran"? Gimme a break and send Bush, Cheney and Wolfowitz to Huntsville for an injection and start electing some proper President, - not some ignorant candy store cowboy trash that was appointed by a court and who has done more than any terrorist organization to cause vast damage to the US.
President Bush may only be in office for another year and a half or five and a half years more. Can I safely assume that you will not say the same of our next President? I have a very strong feeling that this is not a safe assumption.

FYI the President won the electoral vote and was not appointed by any court. Every recount that has been done in Florida by several private organizations show that Bush won the vote in Florida.
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We gotta listen to his lying rhetoric for another 18 months? Shit!
If that next President is Bush, I have little doubt I won't be the only one "saying things" about him. On the other hand, irrespective of any political leanings, if an actual qualified individual is elected this time to replace the asshole and he has more than a grain of sand in his brain, I'll be one of many VERY happy people. That current "thing" is a disgrace to the planet, not just to the US.

Until now, I have never had any problem with any President of the US, despite there can be "contentious issues". Anyone in that position needs support and leeway to "do their best". I am only sorry the US is loaded with this current idiot - he sure does no credit the the country - or anyplace else.
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We gotta listen to his lying rhetoric for another 18 months? Shit!
If that next President is Bush, I have little doubt I won't be the only one "saying things" about him. On the other hand, irrespective of any political leanings, if an actual qualified individual is elected this time to replace the asshole and he has more than a grain of sand in his brain, I'll be one of many VERY happy people. That current "thing" is a disgrace to the planet, not just to the US.

Until now, I have never had any problem with any President of the US, despite there can be "contentious issues". Anyone in that position needs support and leeway to "do their best". I am only sorry the US is loaded with this current idiot - he sure does no credit the the country - or anyplace else.
I assume that you know the contenders that have thrown their hat in the ring for the Presidency. Which is your choice?

There are nine Democrats and I am not aware of any Republicans that are going to challenge Bush.
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Who are people going to blame after Bush is out of office and the war on terroism continues?
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I got no interest whatsoever in US politics and don't give a fuck who the contenders will be. That is a matter for US citizens only.

I only hope some have the sense to elect someone who is at least "partially qualified" cos whoever it is, will have his work cut out for him by the Texas "thing" is put down - whenever that may be.
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Sorry... disrespect to Texas there - the asshole ain't even from Texas :-)
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I got no interest whatsoever in US politics and don't give a fuck who the contenders will be. That is a matter for US citizens only.
For someone that does not have "no interest whatsoever in US politics and don't give a fuck who the contenders will be." you certainly seem to vehemently interested.

Yes...it is a matter for US citizens only...and unless something drastic happens in the next year and a half the US citizens are going to re-elect Bush. The last poll I saw his approval rating is around 70%.
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If you would have paid attention to my previous posts you would have learned that I am speaking about those Muslim countries or any other country that is overtly hostile to the USA and/or provides safe harbor/financial aid to those that are.

ok, so would you put n. korea in that category or not?
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I have no interest whatsoever in what political persuasion is elected in the US - Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Communist for all I care!

This current Trash Admin, has more than surpassed any political talk - they have ignored the vast majority of the real problems, lied about many others, reversed almost all electoral pledges on which they were "almost elected", caused extensive damage to the US abroad and still, even now, have this incredible arrogance to continue lying and wrapping themselves up with miltary posturing claiming "victories" and deciding what should happen in countries many miles away, which is none of their fucking business.

The "foreign activity" is a handy cover for distracting from the real issues of course and has been since Caesar's days. We all support a war leader don't we? Pity that's all he's got to offer.

Sadly.. and I sure ain't alone on this, the US has absolute zero to be proud of in this "thing" - he has let the US down badly and time will tell more, - it ain't finished yet, but barely started.

So.. ya might as well form a "Mickey Disneyland Party" and elect a President from that - surely can't do worse than the thing that is called a "President" at the moment.
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If you are suggesting that I have identified a whole religion as an enemy...please quote where I said that. It is countries that are overtly hostile to the USA and/or harboring/financing those that are.

Please identify the year the USA "changed from a peacefull respecting nation to a militarian invading country" As I recall the USA has always delt with percieved enemies by engaging its military when it is deemed to be necessary.

There is nothing new about the President...the Congress and the American people deciding who, or who does not, represent a threat to the USA...its assests...or its interests.


@ american people deciding
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Would this opinion be considered tripe? HAHAHA

I think that would be too generous, some people actually eat tripe....

The America-haters are motivated by envy... It is ok, if I was in your situation I would be spouting off "Tripe" as well.
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Since I do not spend much time here at GFY... Could the people who are bashing Bush, and the US please post where they live now, and where they were born....

I am curious....

Webby?

Backov?

Nap?


Others....
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The America-haters are motivated by envy
Sheesh... if ever an education of some kind was needed....

Ya ain't for a blinding moment suggesting I am an "America-hater" or "motivated by envy" are ya?

I can assure you I sure ain't either of em!! I would not trade places for $5mill... but tempt me more and I'll think about it!
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:37 PM   #132
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Direct Fiesta, I suggest you go help out your countryman take care of your SARS problem, and we will work on our fat citizens....

The envy continues.... when you are at the top, you are either loved or hated.... Those of you from countries who are not at the top, or even near the top seem to have the biggest chip on your shoulders....

Kinda like penis envy.... It is ok... I know it helps you feel better to bash the USA - it makes you feel better.... but at the end of the day you are still citizens of small insignificant countries who can barely control your own domestic issues...

Hey when is Quebec going to break away???
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:38 PM   #133
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Still waiting for you to say where you are from Webby? Where were you born? Where do you live now?

5 million? Would that be in deflated dollars or euros?
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:41 PM   #134
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Mmmm I assume Mike AI is a US person who feels he is being attacked....

You ain't gonna be attacked by me and you are feel to say whatever you wish (within the confines of that which US law allows), - hey!! I ain't attacking you, in fact, tis probably the complete opposite if you actually realized this
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:44 PM   #135
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Webby, you that ashamed of your citizenship?

Cannot answer a simple question.... come now, it cannot be that bad...

You're not french are you??
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:44 PM   #136
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envy of what... Fat people???
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:46 PM   #137
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ok, so would you put n. korea in that category or not?
Yes. The USA will not allow North Korea to develop a nuclear arsenal or ICBM's so it will be delt with by negotiation...dealing...or militarily.
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mmm that 5mill.. yea.. I will think about it seriously, but can we confine it to spending no more than 14 days in US territory? And can I have payment in $ value at the day of your "President's" election to the Whitehouse? Or Euros if ya must!
Thanks!
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Old 05-26-2003, 07:47 PM   #139
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Since I do not spend much time here at GFY... Could the people who are bashing Bush, and the US please post where they live now, and where they were born....

I am curious....

Webby?

Backov?

Nap?


Others....

please quote me where i "bashed" my country.
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Hey when is Quebec going to break away???
We are waiting ... to be.... huuummmm ... "liberated"....
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Webby you are too boring, and predictable....

I imagine you probably have never been regarded as a leader in anything, and the closest you will come to $5 million is if you win the lottery...

Good luck....

Where are you from again???

Must be pretty shabby if you do not want to post it....
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Yes. The USA will not allow North Korea to develop a nuclear arsenal or ICBM's so it will be delt with by negotiation...dealing...or militarily.
if it was that simple, why didnt you answer me the first time i asked the question, instead of dancing around it?
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Webby, you that ashamed of your citizenship?

Cannot answer a simple question.... come now, it cannot be that bad...

You're not french are you??
Stupid banal "chat" ya kinda expect from an idiot with a pea brain....

Yea.. I'm French... ya gotta come up with some "Freedom Fries" next - hell, you gotta grow up...
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Errr sorry Nap, I got your post confused with another.... My mistake...



Just proving I am another one of those dumb Americans...

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no reply to that....
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and it ain't cos you are "American"... they are everywhere
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Yea.. I'm French... ya gotta come up with some "Freedom Fries" next - hell, you gotta grow up...
What's most stupid is that it is only Americans that call that "French Fries".....
Everywhere else , it's fries ... go figure.
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Yea.. I'm French...
HAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHA



How did I know? I could not even smell you....

AHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHA



It is ok, I have a very high opinion of the French....

This is the 200th Anniversary of the Louisiana Purchase... went to see an exhibit of artifacts from that time at a museum in New Orleans... I apprecaite your country lending them to us to enjoy, it was a good exhibit.
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Stick a soccer mom in it on her way to the mall. That why they want to kill.

It doesnt make you want to start killing?
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