Expired Domains PageRank Follow-up - GoFuckYourself.com

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 12:06 AM

So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

Let's take a look.
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

there were 65 more of them.

lawked · 05-06-2003, 12:11 AM

Brujah,

You're so right. Even the domains I purchased recently still
kept their PR. Are you publishing your PR list today?

GoogleGuy

This whole business is how people tell you one thing and do
another. I'm not listening to that guy again ;)

To your PR lists

lawked · 05-06-2003, 12:15 AM

Lastly about Google, they should stop trying to ruin
peoples business and work around what made them famous.

Yahoo is on their tail and will take the lead down the stretch
with the newbies.

We all go where the newbies are.

Dildozer · 05-06-2003, 12:17 AM

Can't wait for google to go down, not down in flames mind you, but them controling about 80% of the online searches is enought to make most webmasters uneasy

extreme · 05-06-2003, 12:21 AM

And they have really fucked up this last update..

lawked · 05-06-2003, 12:32 AM

Yeah I want Google to go down in flames.

Google is getting way too much power, thinking they
own the Internet (they do for now)...

They will go down, especially pissing off the webmasters that
made them.

On a side note, thanks for the traffic Google

4eym · 05-06-2003, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

Let's take a look.
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

there were 65 more of them.

More, more, more!!!

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 12:55 AM

Brujah you got google lists now too?
Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em

anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny.

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
Brujah you got google lists now too?
Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em

anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny.

I have PageRank lists. Is that what you mean ?
The sample from above is from back last December.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:01 AM

ahh ok mixed lists
if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics.

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
ahh ok mixed lists
if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics.

upsell my site.. make $35 a pop, or $80 on a 3 monther.

DarkJedi · 05-06-2003, 01:06 AM

bullshit.
i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off.
all are PR0 now

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
bullshit.
i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off.
all are PR0 now

How do you explain the sample above where none of them were lost ?

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

upsell my site.. make $35 a pop, or $80 on a 3 monther.

I was actually talking about feeding you google expireds

Seeing as we are one of apparently only 2 that have them.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:10 AM

DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages?

When buying expireds with linkpop, *always* put something on them fast.

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei

I was actually talking about feeding you google expireds

Seeing as we are one of apparently only 2 that have them.

I have the google lp data, but I'm not sure it's as important as the PageRank data. I throw out everything below PR 4.

DarkJedi · 05-06-2003, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

How do you explain the sample above where none of them were lost ?

they will probably get banned on the next update.

my domain were godd for about a month, but after the update they got banned. so i think google will catch up on these too.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

I have the google lp data, but I'm not sure it's as important as the PageRank data. I throw out everything below PR 4.

yeh, depends on what people are trying to find suitable names for.

DarkJedi · 05-06-2003, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages?

When buying expireds with linkpop, *always* put something on them fast.

yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:14 AM

someones been listening to "GoogleGuy" too much.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi

yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

ummm so you blatantly stole their design and put it on a site that now had yer name... oooookay

most likely one of the previous owners complained. I'd have banned you too.

stocktrader23 · 05-06-2003, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi

yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

Did you grab them the day they dropped? Mine kept PR also. And you put up the old website? lol Isn't that agains copyright etc?

funkmaster · 05-06-2003, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

Let's take a look.
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

there were 65 more of them.

... I never said expired domains won´t work anymore .... hahaha !!

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... I never said expired domains won´t work anymore .... hahaha !!

did anyone say you did ?

Dildozer · 05-06-2003, 01:19 AM

I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine

Mr Pheer · 05-06-2003, 01:24 AM

I was literaly making millions until google came on the scene and took over

Mr Pheer · 05-06-2003, 01:27 AM

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /trial/index.cgi on this server.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.fallendomains.com Port 80

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:27 AM

Google is evil.

They want the internet under their control. They want to dictate who you can link to, and who you can't. Instead of overlooking hidden text, links, etc.. they want to punish you brutally. You must be perfect little webtoddlers and obey the google komissar.

DarkJedi · 05-06-2003, 01:27 AM

Anyway, PR isn't all that.
I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:28 AM

The site doesnt even use CGI anymore. Shaun musta goofed and left an old link up. Where was that spunks?

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:33 AM

fixed mrpheer have fun!

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Anyway, PR isn't all that.
I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

PR can be "all that" IF you take the time to also optimize your website. If you do not then no, you wont list as high no matter what.

lawked · 05-06-2003, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine

Believe what you want, say what you want. You were unfortunate.. I'm telling you man, the domains I bought
from last year on thru this year are keeping their PR.

Maybe google is attacking them, who knows.. the benefits
outweigh the penalties.

Let google waste some of their resources on expireds... I want Yahoo to smoke them.

lawked · 05-06-2003, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Anyway, PR isn't all that.
I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

You and GoogleGuy are buddies eh? j/k

If PR is shit, why are people talking about MiniNet's and
building up PR?

Who knows.. unless we work for Google nobody
really knows.

XM · 05-06-2003, 01:42 AM

cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

XM

3Xguru · 05-06-2003, 01:43 AM

Ahhhh Google talk... I love it

sacX · 05-06-2003, 01:43 AM

Amber law anyone?

stocktrader23 · 05-06-2003, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

XM

If I buy a domain the day it dropped, how will google know it wasn't sold to me by the original owner? My domains kept PR. Thank you, come again.

I just checked one.

Registered: 1/17/2003
Expires: 1/17/2004

It has PR with 0 links coming from me.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

XM

downloadworx.com registered february. PR 3
granted, not great, but its still there.

lawked · 05-06-2003, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

If I buy a domain the day it dropped, how will google know it wasn't sold to me by the original owner? My domains kept PR. Thank you, come again.

I just checked one.

Registered: 1/17/2003
Expires: 1/17/2004

It has PR with 0 links coming from me.

Let people think that PR'd domains are dead.. Just silently
buy them. Cough, googleguy was right... don't buy expired
domains for PR.

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ?

XM

We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

So from these few observations so far:
Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that

XM · 05-06-2003, 01:50 AM

OK guys keep on buying them

XM

sacX · 05-06-2003, 01:50 AM

I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google

stocktrader23 · 05-06-2003, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

So from these few observations so far:
Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that

You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google

This was already mentioned above and answered :P

lawked · 05-06-2003, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
OK guys keep on buying them
XM

Yes Sir!

Squad, attention.

Blue 42, blue 42, hut hut..

When you email for a link cause the domain has high PR.. won't
be a problem, I'll add you ;)

GoogleGuy

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
OK guys keep on buying them
XM

Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

nuclei · 05-06-2003, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

agreed

but some people cant think beyond the box

Brujah · 05-06-2003, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?

Yes.

Sloane · 05-06-2003, 01:58 AM

95% of my drops have lost PR, trying to find a pattern with the remainding 5% as to why they survived.

05-06-2003, 12:06 AM	#1
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Expired Domains PageRank Follow-up So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo... Let's take a look. cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7 acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7 chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted) chemsafety.net - PR 7 fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused) there were 65 more of them. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

05-06-2003, 12:17 AM	#4
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	Can't wait for google to go down, not down in flames mind you, but them controling about 80% of the online searches is enought to make most webmasters uneasy __________________ Spam link here

05-06-2003, 12:21 AM	#5
extreme Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lalaland Posts: 2,120	And they have really fucked up this last update.. __________________ Browse and find new paysites with screenshot-preview Export FHGs/FLVs/Paysites by JSON, XML, CSV and Text Find FHGs/FLVs/Paysites from any given Category or Search-query

05-06-2003, 12:55 AM	#8
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	Brujah you got google lists now too? Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny. __________________ The next generation of SEO

05-06-2003, 01:01 AM	#10
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	ahh ok mixed lists if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics. __________________ The next generation of SEO

05-06-2003, 12:11 AM	#2
lawked Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 354	Brujah, You're so right. Even the domains I purchased recently still kept their PR. Are you publishing your PR list today? GoogleGuy This whole business is how people tell you one thing and do another. I'm not listening to that guy again ;) To your PR lists

05-06-2003, 12:15 AM	#3
lawked Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 354	Lastly about Google, they should stop trying to ruin peoples business and work around what made them famous. Yahoo is on their tail and will take the lead down the stretch with the newbies. We all go where the newbies are.

05-06-2003, 12:32 AM	#6
lawked Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 354	Yeah I want Google to go down in flames. Google is getting way too much power, thinking they own the Internet (they do for now)... They will go down, especially pissing off the webmasters that made them. On a side note, thanks for the traffic Google

05-06-2003, 01:06 AM	#12
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	bullshit. i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off. all are PR0 now

05-06-2003, 01:10 AM	#15
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages? When buying expireds with linkpop, always put something on them fast. __________________ The next generation of SEO

05-06-2003, 01:14 AM	#20
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	someones been listening to "GoogleGuy" too much. __________________ The next generation of SEO

05-06-2003, 01:19 AM	#25
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine __________________ Spam link here

05-06-2003, 01:24 AM	#26
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,261	I was literaly making millions until google came on the scene and took over __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

05-06-2003, 01:27 AM	#27
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,261	Forbidden You don't have permission to access /trial/index.cgi on this server. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.fallendomains.com Port 80 __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

05-06-2003, 01:28 AM	#30
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	The site doesnt even use CGI anymore. Shaun musta goofed and left an old link up. Where was that spunks? __________________ The next generation of SEO

05-06-2003, 01:33 AM	#31
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	fixed mrpheer have fun! __________________ The next generation of SEO

05-06-2003, 01:42 AM	#35
XM Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SVK Posts: 406	cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7 acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7 chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted) chemsafety.net - PR 7 fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused) All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough. Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ? XM

05-06-2003, 01:43 AM	#36
3Xguru Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Iasi Posts: 1,281	Ahhhh Google talk... I love it __________________ -=Free Webmaster Tools=-

05-06-2003, 01:43 AM	#37
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	Amber law anyone?

05-06-2003, 01:50 AM	#42
XM Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SVK Posts: 406	OK guys keep on buying them XM

05-06-2003, 01:58 AM	#50
Sloane Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vietnam Posts: 815	95% of my drops have lost PR, trying to find a pattern with the remainding 5% as to why they survived.