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Brujah 05-06-2003 12:06 AM

Expired Domains PageRank Follow-up
 
So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

Let's take a look.
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

there were 65 more of them.

lawked 05-06-2003 12:11 AM

Brujah,

You're so right. Even the domains I purchased recently still
kept their PR. Are you publishing your PR list today?

:ak47: GoogleGuy

This whole business is how people tell you one thing and do
another. I'm not listening to that guy again ;)

:thumbsup To your PR lists

lawked 05-06-2003 12:15 AM

Lastly about Google, they should stop trying to ruin
peoples business and work around what made them famous.

Yahoo is on their tail and will take the lead down the stretch
with the newbies.

We all go where the newbies are.

:feels-hot :thumbsup :ak47: :321GFY :winkwink:

Dildozer 05-06-2003 12:17 AM

Can't wait for google to go down, not down in flames mind you, but them controling about 80% of the online searches is enought to make most webmasters uneasy

extreme 05-06-2003 12:21 AM

And they have really fucked up this last update..

lawked 05-06-2003 12:32 AM

Yeah I want Google to go down in flames.

Google is getting way too much power, thinking they
own the Internet (they do for now)...

They will go down, especially pissing off the webmasters that
made them.

On a side note, thanks for the traffic Google :)

4eym 05-06-2003 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

Let's take a look.
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

there were 65 more of them.


More, more, more!!!

nuclei 05-06-2003 12:55 AM

Brujah you got google lists now too?
Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em :thumbsup

anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny.

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
Brujah you got google lists now too?
Damn, I thought we were the only ones with em :thumbsup

anyone who thinks google is going to pay attention to every one of its millions of domains to see which ones expired and were picked up after is too funny.

I have PageRank lists. Is that what you mean ?
The sample from above is from back last December.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:01 AM

ahh ok mixed lists
if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics.

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
ahh ok mixed lists
if you like hit me up, we can feed you google specifics.

upsell my site.. make $35 a pop, or $80 on a 3 monther.
:Graucho

DarkJedi 05-06-2003 01:06 AM

bullshit.
i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off.
all are PR0 now

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
bullshit.
i got several PR6 PR7 expired domains and google killed them off.
all are PR0 now

How do you explain the sample above where none of them were lost ?

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


upsell my site.. make $35 a pop, or $80 on a 3 monther.
:Graucho

I was actually talking about feeding you google expireds :1orglaugh

Seeing as we are one of apparently only 2 that have them.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:10 AM

DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages?

When buying expireds with linkpop, *always* put something on them fast.

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei


I was actually talking about feeding you google expireds :1orglaugh

Seeing as we are one of apparently only 2 that have them.

I have the google lp data, but I'm not sure it's as important as the PageRank data. I throw out everything below PR 4.

DarkJedi 05-06-2003 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


How do you explain the sample above where none of them were lost ?

they will probably get banned on the next update.

my domain were godd for about a month, but after the update they got banned. so i think google will catch up on these too.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


I have the google lp data, but I'm not sure it's as important as the PageRank data. I throw out everything below PR 4.

yeh, depends on what people are trying to find suitable names for.

DarkJedi 05-06-2003 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuclei
DarkJedi: what did you do with the domains? As in leave em so they had no dns or webpages?

When buying expireds with linkpop, *always* put something on them fast.

yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:14 AM

someones been listening to "GoogleGuy" too much.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi


yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

ummm so you blatantly stole their design and put it on a site that now had yer name... oooookay

most likely one of the previous owners complained. I'd have banned you too.

stocktrader23 05-06-2003 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi


yeah thats what i did: i put the former sites on them (from archive org) right away bu that didnt help.

Did you grab them the day they dropped? Mine kept PR also. And you put up the old website? lol Isn't that agains copyright etc?

funkmaster 05-06-2003 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
So.. by now everyone talks about how Google is killing the expired domains, blah blah.. so I go back to my December PageRank list from Clickmojo...

Let's take a look.
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)

there were 65 more of them.

... I never said expired domains won´t work anymore .... hahaha !!

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster


... I never said expired domains won´t work anymore .... hahaha !!

did anyone say you did ?

Dildozer 05-06-2003 01:19 AM

I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine

Mr Pheer 05-06-2003 01:24 AM

I was literaly making millions until google came on the scene and took over :(

Mr Pheer 05-06-2003 01:27 AM

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /trial/index.cgi on this server.


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Apache/1.3.27 Server at www.fallendomains.com Port 80

:mad:

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:27 AM

Google is evil.

They want the internet under their control. They want to dictate who you can link to, and who you can't. Instead of overlooking hidden text, links, etc.. they want to punish you brutally. You must be perfect little webtoddlers and obey the google komissar.

DarkJedi 05-06-2003 01:27 AM

Anyway, PR isn't all that.
I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:28 AM

The site doesnt even use CGI anymore. Shaun musta goofed and left an old link up. Where was that spunks?

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:33 AM

fixed mrpheer have fun!

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Anyway, PR isn't all that.
I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.


PR can be "all that" IF you take the time to also optimize your website. If you do not then no, you wont list as high no matter what.

lawked 05-06-2003 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
I believe the dropped penalty applies to websites picked in february and later, also i don't think they tag all of them, but they sure tagged mine
Believe what you want, say what you want. You were unfortunate.. I'm telling you man, the domains I bought
from last year on thru this year are keeping their PR.

Maybe google is attacking them, who knows.. the benefits
outweigh the penalties.



:thumbsup Let google waste some of their resources on expireds... I want Yahoo to smoke them.

lawked 05-06-2003 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Anyway, PR isn't all that.
I have a PR5 site and this dude has PR6 site. I'm still ranking 2 positions higher than he does.

You and GoogleGuy are buddies eh? j/k

If PR is shit, why are people talking about MiniNet's and
building up PR?

:thumbsup Who knows.. unless we work for Google nobody
really knows.

XM 05-06-2003 01:42 AM

cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ? :Graucho

XM

3Xguru 05-06-2003 01:43 AM

Ahhhh Google talk... I love it:)

sacX 05-06-2003 01:43 AM

Amber law anyone?

stocktrader23 05-06-2003 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ? :Graucho

XM

If I buy a domain the day it dropped, how will google know it wasn't sold to me by the original owner? My domains kept PR. Thank you, come again.

I just checked one.

Registered: 1/17/2003
Expires: 1/17/2004

It has PR with 0 links coming from me.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ? :Graucho

XM

downloadworx.com registered february. PR 3
granted, not great, but its still there.

lawked 05-06-2003 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


If I buy a domain the day it dropped, how will google know it wasn't sold to me by the original owner? My domains kept PR. Thank you, come again.

I just checked one.

Registered: 1/17/2003
Expires: 1/17/2004

It has PR with 0 links coming from me.

Let people think that PR'd domains are dead.. Just silently
buy them. Cough, googleguy was right... don't buy expired
domains for PR.

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
cuentosyrelatos.com - PR 7
acousticguitarfestival.com - PR 7
chemsafety.com - PR 7 (altho unused/wasted)
chemsafety.net - PR 7
fightaboutmoney.com - PR 7 (unused)


All these domains have been registered as late as in March 2003 and their PR will be zeroed in the next update simply by checking their Creation Date. Google absolutely doesn't need to follow all expired domains, just comparing data of those he has in index once in a while is enough.
Can you show us Brujah some domain registered in January at the latest and still having it's PR ? :Graucho

XM

We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

So from these few observations so far:
Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that :)

XM 05-06-2003 01:50 AM

OK guys keep on buying them :thumbsup
XM

sacX 05-06-2003 01:50 AM

I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google :)

stocktrader23 05-06-2003 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


We'll see. I'm not implying that it can't happen at all, just that it didn't happen to this December batch that had been down for as long as 3 months, then re-registered and still hold very high PR.

I have names registered back around that time that still have good PR also.

So from these few observations so far:
Not in zone Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Jun 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Dec 2002 - No PR loss.
Registered in Mar 2003 - No PR loss.

If you want access to the lists on the rare occasions that I post them, you'll have to be a member for that :)

You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
I don't want to blaspheme but.. u know something. PR isn't everything when it comes to google :)

This was already mentioned above and answered :P

lawked 05-06-2003 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
OK guys keep on buying them :thumbsup
XM

Yes Sir!

Squad, attention.

Blue 42, blue 42, hut hut..

When you email for a link cause the domain has high PR.. won't
be a problem, I'll add you ;)

:thumbsup GoogleGuy

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XM
OK guys keep on buying them :thumbsup
XM

Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

nuclei 05-06-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah


Just to clarify, there are numerous other reasons to buy expired domains. PR is not the only reason, nor the best reason.

agreed

but some people cant think beyond the box :1orglaugh

Brujah 05-06-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


You list the domains with PR that you don't register on your site from time to time?

Yes.

Sloane 05-06-2003 01:58 AM

95% of my drops have lost PR, trying to find a pattern with the remainding 5% as to why they survived.


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