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Old 03-05-2019, 05:46 PM   #1
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Live Animals Slaughtered For Dinner

We hear about this going on but I never realized the extent of the cruelty. I understand that in third world countries they eat our “pets” but to steal a pet and blowtorch it live is just cruel. Kill it humanely first at least to avoid a suffering.

And bring on the eating pussy jokes I know you’re holding in.

Indonesia has over 200 'live' animal meat markets where dogs and cats are soldha

Downtown Abbey star Peter Egan visited two of the most notorious,haTomohon’s 'Extreme Market' and Langowan Traditional Market, both in North Sulawesi

There he witnessed cats and dogs being bludgeoned to death and blowtorchedha

More than a million dogs and cats are killed every year in Indonesia's meat trade

Terrified dogs wait in wire cages to be beaten to death as cats are blow-torched while they are still alive - this is the horrifying reality of Indonesia's live meat trade.

There are more than 200 'live' meat markets in the south Asian country, and Downton Abbey actor Peter Egan travelled to two of the most notorious in order to lay bare the suffering of animals condemned to this fate.

These deeply disturbing scenes were filmed at Tomohon’s 'Extreme Market' and Langowan Traditional Market, both located in North Sulawesi province.

The markets do not just deal in dog and cat meat, but also serve up reptiles such as pythons and lizards to eager customers.

However, dog and cat meat are staples of such places with more than a million of the animals slaughtered in Indonesia each year alone.

Videos from the two markets, visited by Mr Egan alongside the Dog Free Meat Indonesia campaign group, show animals forced into cages in hot weather, awaiting their fate.

Animals were filmed being clubbed to death in full view of the cage-mates, making the experience as terrifying as possible.

After being beaten over the head with large pieces of wood the animals are taken to be blowtorched so the hair can be stripped away.

However, many of the pitiable creatures are still moving or twitching as the flames are applied to their bodies.

Mr Egan said: 'Nothing could have prepared me for the sickening horrors I witnessed.ha
'This part of Indonesia is world-renowned for its breathtaking volcanic mountain landscape, stunning dive waters and beautiful beaches, but the ugly brutality of the dog and cat meat trades will haunt me for the rest of my life.ha

'The absolute indifference to animal suffering was so utterly shocking and heartbreaking.ha
'I saw countless dogs and cats waiting to be slaughtered, to lose their lives in the most brutal and cruel way.ha

'There was nothing I could do to take away their pain, but their pleading eyes and the stomach churning smell of blood and burning dog hair, are scenes of hell that I shall never forget.haha

'I am committed to exposing these horrors and to working with the Indonesian and global community to fulfil our united goal of ending the abhorrent cruelty of the dog and cat meat trades.'

While there, Mr Egan paid one trader in order to save four dogs from being slaughtered, but was not able to rescue any more.ha

Only a minority of Indonesians eat dog or cat meat, but those who do claim it has healing properties or defend it as traditional.

Campaigners say the practice is cruel, spreads deadly diseases such as rabies, and leads to thieves stealing pet dogs so they can be slaughtered.

Dog Free Meat Indonesia is calling for a complete ban on the practice in Indonesia, following the example of other countries in the region such as Taiwan, Hong Kong, the Philippines and Thailand.

Lola Webber, Change For Animals Foundation co-founder and DMFI representative who accompanied Peter Egan to the markets, said: 'Thousands of dogs and cats are killed at the markets in North Sulawesi each week, and it is estimated that 90 per cent are stolen pets, owned or street dogs.ha

'Some 80 per cent are imported from other provinces, which is illegal under the country’s anti-rabies law prohibiting the movement of dogs across provincial borders in rabies endemic areas.ha

'Having visited the dog and cat meat markets in North Sulawesi countless times, the horrors never cease to bring me to despair.ha

'Despite DMFI’s exposés of the cruelty, warnings of the dangers to public health and risk of rabies transmission, nationwide and global condemnation, and promises of action by local and central governments, business continues as usual.'
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Your cries and complaints of how cruel this seems to you will not make a bit of difference of how they do things in their country. They don't care about your opinion of it.

Just like the foreign fucks on here complaining about our President. It's not going to change anything and we don't give a fuck what they think.
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Wait.... people eat animals?
FUCK!!!
When did this bullshit start??
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Wait.... people eat animals?
FUCK!!!
When did this bullshit start??
as with everything, you totally miss the point of the story.
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as with everything, you totally miss the point of the story.
uh huh. you're upset about how dinner is killed?

do you care how a fish is killed? a crab? a lobster? a rat? a chicken?

can you explain the difference in why one matters and the other is irrelevant in your moral world (the one where you frequently advocate for people to be hurt or killed)?
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Your cries and complaints of how cruel this seems to you will not make a bit of difference of how they do things in their country. They don't care about your opinion of it.

Just like the foreign fucks on here complaining about our President. It's not going to change anything and we don't give a fuck what they think.
I’m not trying to change things. It’s normal and acceptable there. People don’t realize what goes on in other parts of the world.

Though, this goes on where some posters live.
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What do you think they should do with the additional million dogs and cats if they weren't eaten? Can those people really afford to throw away the protein?

Buddy and I have had a great time, but push come to shove, he would be in a soup.



And for the record, all animals are alive before they are slaughtered for dinner.
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Buddy and I have had a great time, but push come to shove, he would be in a soup.
You overestimate your health and underestimate Buddy's instinct to eat your flesh when you're passed out drunk and haven't fed him for 3 days because of your alcoholism.
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Animal slaughters reminds me of this video from the song titled Radioactive where the animals revolt.



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Indonesia banned dog and cat meat production/ consumption late last year.

Was mainly to do with rabies outbreaks more than tourist concerns.


If your sickened by this trade and want to do something, Sponsor a dog!

https://www.soidog.org/sponsor-a-dog

A friends daughter did 3 months intern work there couple of years back and when I'm in Phuket I try and get out there, its an amazing place with a small dedicated team trying to make a difference.. and they do, extra funds are always needed.
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What do you think they should do with the additional million dogs and cats if they weren't eaten? Can those people really afford to throw away the protein?

Buddy and I have had a great time, but push come to shove, he would be in a soup.



And for the record, all animals are alive before they are slaughtered for dinner.
My issue and the story focus is about the brutal way they’re killed. Humanely kill them to survive but don’t blowtorch a live animal. Don’t beat them to death with wooden boards in front of other animals.

I’m not a big fish eater but would never eat line caught fish. Locally the boats have huge nets and scoop up what they can. They sneak in undersized lobster and get caught occasionally.

“All animals are alive before they are slaughtered for dinner.” Did you use Google to learn that? Do you truly think we believe dead animals are killed again for dinner? Sheesh.

Dog and cat birth control is not expensive but in a third-world country, every penny counts. They need Vets Without Borders so they can donate their talents to spay animals. Or, go over and bring back planes full of animals. The demand for pets here is huge. Get pet food companies to donate food to help out. Yeah, it’s a crazy idea but it’s needed. Teach people how to plant and cook food with protein instead of meat. Fish, peanuts, and other foods can be had for a little money.

Eat pets. But kill them humanely. It’s a living creature and dogs do more than be pets. They smell smoke and wake you up to get out. Dog died last week doing that. They alert you of danger and protect you at all costs.

I’m going to sleep. Nothing I say will change your mind. Read the article carefully and read comments, too. And keep learning about killing animals when they’re alive and not dead so dinner is on the table
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What do you think they should do with the additional million dogs and cats if they weren't eaten? Can those people really afford to throw away the protein?

Buddy and I have had a great time, but push come to shove, he would be in a soup.



And for the record, all animals are alive before they are slaughtered for dinner.
If they want to eat dogs, fine. But the least they could do is kill them humanely instead of terrifying them in their last hours until the painful agonizing death. These aren't cows or pigs we're talking about. It's our closest friend in the animal kingdom. Have some fucking sense.

Is that why you're called baddog? Because everyone should feel bad for your dog having you as an owner?
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uh huh. you're upset about how dinner is killed?

do you care how a fish is killed? a crab? a lobster? a rat? a chicken?

can you explain the difference in why one matters and the other is irrelevant in your moral world (the one where you frequently advocate for people to be hurt or killed)?
A fish or lobster doesn't sleep on a bed in my room at night and wake me up in the morning with a lick to the face. I'd rather see shit like you treated this way by the Indonesians than a dog.
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When I was a teenager, a friend of mine had Mexican nextdoor neighbors. It was a rural area in Texas so they had farm animals, including goats.

One morning they slaughtered one of the goats.

That evening, I had some of the best BBQ I've ever had in my life.
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there is a special type of sub human who kills animals for fun or sport...this sub human also sees nothing wrong with torture or cruel and prolonged murder...no compassion...no humanity...

if you can kill something that means you no harm and not feel devastated about what you did, you are sub human...
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there is a special type of sub human who kills animals for fun or sport...this sub human also sees nothing wrong with torture or cruel and prolonged murder...no compassion...no humanity...

if you can kill something that means you no harm and not feel devastated about what you did, you are sub human...
Your post reminds me of this:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...s-morocoo.html
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Buddy and I have had a great time, but push come to shove, he would be in a soup.
LOL Shut the fuck up. Why are you trying to act so tough around here? If "Push came to shove" as you say it, and you had to kill your dog to eat it, you would be crying your eyes out just like everyone else here would.
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@Pam, I feel like my posts here some time give you a hard time and it's not intentional but damn...you're making me agree with Squealer :/

the way that the NA food industry is constructed is tortuous to animals. ever been on a highway in traffic next to a cattle truck jam packed with lives destined for slaughter? They cry, they literally sweat fear. you can smell it.

same with eggs, battery cages are extreme torture

it's easy to get up on my high horse (that I won't eat) here as I'm vegan but at times I have eaten meat. and tbh felt pretty bad about it, even when eating locally sourced/non-conglomerate meat

but what is the difference between a cow or chicken and a dog or cat? the pleasure they bring to us as companions? is that the altimeter for the value of a non-human life?

I dunno, I don't eat anything to do with animals but don't judge those who do. we are objectively supposed to be omnivores. I'm not trying to dictate anyone's food choices. we don't need to torture the animals we use for food though. truth is NA does too


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A fish or lobster doesn't sleep on a bed in my room at night and wake me up in the morning with a lick to the face. I'd rather see shit like you treated this way by the Indonesians than a dog.
Yes, we are all aware of both your misogynistic beliefs and love of wishing suffering and death on others.

However, there are a lot of animals that don't llick you on the face and that doesn't explain why killing one is different than killing another.

Now, if you excuse me, i'm off for my Bronco sanctioned dolphin killing spree... case they're on your "safe to kill list" because they don't sleep in your bed.
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I have a feeling ThePorker never slaughtered anything in his life... Besides his reputation.
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LOL Shut the fuck up. Why are you trying to act so tough around here? If "Push came to shove" as you say it, and you had to kill your dog to eat it, you would be crying your eyes out just like everyone else here would.
I was watching the discovery channel the other day and there's a place in Africa where at the age of 5 boys are given a puppy to take care of. They have to take very good care of it as their pride and joy. I can't remember if it was the age of puberty or a specific age in years but at some point, to become a man, they have to kill the dog. The boy that was to become a man was sitting next to his dog crying.

They used to do the same thing in Russia: Boys Killed Pets to Become Warriors in Russia
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First of all: fuck Asian and what they eat over there. Bug, dogs, rats - fuck those people, seriously.

Second: steer and lobsters? I've been to places where you pick out the poor red bastard (lobster) before you steam them to death and eat them. I've been to restaurants in Texas where you look out the window, pick out a Bessie, and they kill it and grill it for ya.

So, you know, whatever.
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A fish or lobster doesn't sleep on a bed in my room at night and wake me up in the morning with a lick to the face.
Sounds pretty disgusting to let your dog sleep in your bed. And Buddy has been trained to not lick faces. I mean WTF, your dog spends the night licking their asshole, then wake you up with a lick to the face?

Pretty disgusting lifestyle you lead IMO.
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Sounds pretty disgusting to let your dog sleep in your bed. And Buddy has been trained to not lick faces. I mean WTF, your dog spends the night licking their asshole, then wake you up with a lick to the face?

Pretty disgusting lifestyle you lead IMO.
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Your cries and complaints of how cruel this seems to you will not make a bit of difference of how they do things in their country. They don't care about your opinion of it.
Just like the endless Trump threads on here daily. It will not make ONE bit of difference. And nobody gives a shit...

Yet still the crybabies will continue...
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Express.co.uk has the story. I just read it again to be sure it’s current. I thought someone said it was outlawed in Indonesia but it goes on still.
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First of all: fuck Asian and what they eat over there. Bug, dogs, rats - fuck those people, seriously.

Second: steer and lobsters? I've been to places where you pick out the poor red bastard (lobster) before you steam them to death and eat them. I've been to restaurants in Texas where you look out the window, pick out a Bessie, and they kill it and grill it for ya.

So, you know, whatever.
FYI, lobster and crab had to be cooked live. There are enzymes in the meat that make the meat toxic once they are dead.

But "Delicious" + "Ugly" means no rights for them!
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FYI, lobster and crab had to be cooked live. There are enzymes in the meat that make the meat toxic once they are dead.

But "Delicious" + "Ugly" means no rights for them!
You are literally a lie machine WTF?!

We had crab pots on the dock at my house on the water in Australia. After throwing all the females back you put the males in the freezer for a short bit to "stun" them and they stop moving and feel nothing. Then you take them out and sever the nerve center with a knife, then cook them right away or flash freeze them. Same with lobsters you dope.



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First of all: fuck Asian and what they eat over there. Bug, dogs, rats - fuck those people, seriously.

Second: steer and lobsters? I've been to places where you pick out the poor red bastard (lobster) before you steam them to death and eat them. I've been to restaurants in Texas where you look out the window, pick out a Bessie, and they kill it and grill it for ya.

So, you know, whatever.
It’s done here. Go to the restaurant and choose your lobster. They then cook it live. I’m a lobster freak and eat it often because it’s cheap here. At about 16 I realized that it dies a horrible death. I went to a school in Buzzards Bay whose name I can’t remember and talked to them. They teach boating and water craft. According to them, lobsters have few nerves and feel little or no pain. Death is instant when they hit the boiling water.

I asked a million questions about seafood and pain. You can’t ask a fish if hooks hurt.

My grandfather had a meat market and fresh farm which is a few miles from me now. I saw cows being led to slaughter. I cried often but he explained that the cows get a shot that hurts a little and they go to sleep. Now I know that some steer are treated differently but I won’t go into that.

Look, as I’ve said, I get it. Some countries are raising people to do what they must to survive. Needles and medications cost money but funds raised for the ethical killing of animals are needed. A shot isn’t a thousand dollars but getting the meds to everyone and seeing it used on animals and not their neighbors is crucial. Having a veterinarian visit and rewards for the inoculation sounds great but doing it?

Grandiose ideas with no way to implement the them.

Things change in the world. Discussion like this helps ideas to grow. We can’t change it but it’s nice to dream
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I asked a million questions about seafood and pain. You can’t ask a fish if hooks hurt.
I have a friend in Germany that got a simple fishing license. Here you go to a store and buy a license, he had to take a class that included what to do after you actually caught a fish. They have to smack it on the head hard enough to kill it so it doesn't suffocate.

Catch and release is illegal.
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My basic rule: if it's cute I won't eat it.

Unless it's pussy or camel toes, of course. :D
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They have to smack it on the head hard enough to kill it so it doesn't suffocate.
This is how I do them before taking them home. I keep them in the water then bang each of them before heading off. In Australia that was about 20 feet to my house from my dock.
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This is how I do them before taking them home. I keep them in the water then bang each of them before heading off. In Australia that was about 20 feet to my house from my dock.
Are you talking about lobsters or sex partners?
Because that's what I do with all the girls I fuck, keep them in the water then bang each of them before heading off.

(Or is "lobster" what you call your sex partners??)

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You are literally a lie machine WTF?!

We had crab pots on the dock at my house on the water in Australia. After throwing all the females back you put the males in the freezer for a short bit to "stun" them and they stop moving and feel nothing. Then you take them out and sever the nerve center with a knife, then cook them right away or flash freeze them. Same with lobsters you dope.
All commercially caught lobster and crab are cooked alive idiot. Dead are thrown away.

You haven't even got the slightest idea what "flash freeze" means within the context of seafood processing and safety.
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All commercially caught lobster and crab are cooked alive idiot. Dead are thrown away.

You haven't even got the slightest idea what "flash freeze" means within the context of seafood processing and safety.
Ohhh I love it when you talk about seafood processing and safety. Sooo sexy!!

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Pam you posted the clue yourself, "third world countries". Why do some Westerns expect people from a completely different world to theirs will act like Westerners if they could only come to the West?
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