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Hey The Dynasty, Can I please have my domain LiveCamNetwork.net back now?
Hey The Dynasty, Can I please have my domain LiveCamNetwork.net back now?
Pretty please with sugar on top?
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Mark you've hit a new low.
It's called dignity. Get some man.
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BTW: I just registered LiveCamsNetwork.net
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^^ Now officially a scumbag with no dignity or respect
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It has nothing to do with dignity. I'm just asking him to be a nice guy and to give the domain back to me. Anyway, you're clearly offended, so no need for you to return to this thread I guess. Congrats on your new domain.
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Dude you need to chill the fuck out, seriously.
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TheDynasty is clearly not going to give you jack shit but I registered a domain that's almost the same so use that one. LOL Give me your email via PM and I will send the domain details to you. ![]()
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he probably sold it
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I need a beer
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PM sent.
If I am over stepping boundaries I do apologize. But the new domain is yours. ![]()
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why not buy it back like a normal person ?
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one can dream...
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He doesn't have the money
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oh man.......
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I got bored here.
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Because he tried to sell it to an employee, didn't contact me about it until later, threatened to use it against me if I didn't buy it, etc. There's no good faith here. That, and I'm a cheap SOB. Quote:
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"Contrary to popular belief, you don't need to register your trademark to obtain trademark protection. Simply using your trademark in commerce provides common law protections." https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/h...-business-name Why should he trust you that if he gets a trademark you'll give the domain back? You're a guy holding his domain hostage and he's supposed to believe you? You already know that he's used this domain for his business exclusively for over a decade he has common law protection for the trademark of his domain so getting a registered trademark is no different from his common law protections as far as you knowing that he uses it exclusively for his business specifically. Your logic is flawed. |
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Here is an email he sent to us recently. ![]() (He is calling himself "Mark" even though his real name is apparently Chris. It's one thing to use a "handle" in the adult industry, but a false name too? Geeeze..!! No idea why he did that). Anyway, he changed his mind about a blog and then signed-up as a Streamate affiliate: ![]() But Streamate seems to have cut him off. At least it's cool to know that if someone else buys the domain from him that they might have trouble using it on a white label. I wonder if TheDynasty will disclose that to the buyer? And if he doesn't, I wonder if the buyer will maybe have some something to say about that? So, yeah...
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2. someone buys the domain and wants to use it for there business 3. decides not to use and find someone to buy it its not illegal thats why nobody is getting a domain back its going to sit till someone has the money to pay for it PERIOD. |
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You are violating the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act "The law was designed to thwart “cybersquatters” who register Internet domain names containing trademarks with no intention of creating a legitimate web site, but instead plan to sell the domain name to the trademark owner or a third party." "Contrary to popular belief, you don't need to register your trademark to obtain trademark protection. Simply using your trademark in commerce provides common law protections." Cybersquatting noun the practice of registering names, especially well-known company or brand names, as Internet domains, in the hope of reselling them at a profit. |
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What you're doing is illegal and you know it's illegal. Mods should ban your ass |
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its not illegal good luck with your future endevours
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Mark registered livecamnetwork.com in 1998 LiveCamNet.com was registered in 2013 You're putting yourself through all this drama for $6 you spent on a domain that you have no intention of using just for reselling. As you said "I buy and sell domains". You have no intention of using the domain the pure definition of cybersquatting. You're openly violating the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act ( ACPA ) and Mark has the grounds to file a valid ACPA claim & UDRP claim against you. You should just give back the domain at cost and be done with it. It's not worth all this drama for you. In the end you're going to lose more than you gain and you know that. |
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Just be a hero and give it back Mark learned his lesson and you're a good guy for teaching him that lesson and not having him have a long-term negative repercussion because of it. You have the power to do that so be a good guy and you might be surprised at the good that will become of it if you do. |
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Lolz....
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Hey TheDynasty, I sent you this email at 11:37am, almost 3 hours ago. Could you please reply?
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Come on Dynasty... Return? Hand-shake? Peace?
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No deal.
No domain back. If the domain was/is of any interest, it should have been protected better. The amount of time invested into this shows that it is indeed of some type of value. If one cannot put up few thousands for something that is of value - well - then ... Actually - do add another $1000 to the asking price, just for this taking so long and involving so much drama.
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![]() Mark has a common law trademark on that domain name and a valid, easily winable, ACPA & UDRP claim. |
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1. Not YOUR domain 2. You let it expire 3. Idiot |
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You just made yourself look like an idiot lol
The guy took Mark's domain and immediately contacted his secretary to sell it back for $3,000. The textbook definition of cybersquatting. Cybersquatting - The practice of registering names, especially well-known company or brand names, as Internet domains, in the hope of reselling them at a profit. |
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I'm not condoning TheDynasty's behavior, but Mark's "Live Cam Network" could hardly be characterized as well-known. The Alexa for livecamnetwork.com is 6,474,790, so the site likely gets about 15-20 visits a day. Secondly, I personally consider "Live Cam Network" as a descriptive term. It's not distinctive like Streamate. Descriptive terms carry far less trademark protection than distinctive terms or arbitrary terms like "Apple". Unless Mark has a registered trademark, I don't recommend filing a UDRP or URSS, as it would likely fail and be a waste of money.
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Live Cam Network - three very generic words (like Porn and Nerd) so very hard to trademark. Plus we are talking about a White Label here. Weren't they (white labels) penalized by Google? So what SERPs value can the domain have? Oh - and it's a dot net, not even a dot com. Quote:
To me (call me crazy) it's all about the revenue lost. Can it be replaced or replicated with a similar, new domain? Just saying a lot of drama over a domain that's not unique at all. But hey, best of luck to everyone involved and I hope it all works out. ![]()
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so much discussion over worthless domain
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1) Bad faith registration 2) New registrant immediately contacted previous owner to sell at obscenely higher rate 3) New registrant knew the history of the .come version of the name, and the owner if the domain via this forum. 4) New registrant publicly admitted here that he buys and sells domains for profit and that he's not going to develop the domain. |
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But if we're talking litigation and legal fees....see what I mean? It's a cost/benefit analysis type of thing for me.
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Mark,
count the losses, it is not much. And focus on something new. That domain was keeping you from going forward, see this as the moment to move on.
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I'm not going to get into this argument over right and wrong, but since I think Chris Butler is a drizzling bag of shit I will say this...I have been told that the reason he is on here posting every day and is more coherent than he has been in the past is because he is on house arrest/probation at his parent's house in Van Wert, Ohio, and he is only coherent because he has to take regular piss tests or have his probation violated. You could do a search on here and find his parent's address. A simple GFY search would show his long history of scamming money, everything from money transfer scams to his bread and butter scam, taking money for blogposts/links/work that he never provides. I'm sure his probation officer in Van Wert Ohio would love to know his fraudulent history...
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Lol, he's been banned over 30 times and keeps coming back, that won't do any good. The mods finally just disappeared and allowed him to stay, even though they've known for several months. Bladewire you have called just about everyone here a "fake nick" at one time or the other, yet you "like the contributions" of one of gfy's most prolific scammers and the king of fake nicks. You are either incredibly naive or operate with a complete set of double standards. |
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