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Old 05-20-2016, 05:22 AM   #151
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It's hard to explain, but laser technologies work well as pew-pew guns in Sci-Fi movies only, but not on planet Earth. I've tried to explain in above, but seems it doesn't work for the people who calls physical law a "wild story". That's like speaking with people who've got their education in some village parish school.

Do you think why all world armies still use old good bullets and missiles instead of this:



There must be a reason, right?
All weapons have different pros & cons, but laser tech is simply fantastic in removing a threat, as seen on the video from WOJ. Reading up on the rail gun's history, the French founder invented the idea of magnetic propulsion many years ago & yet it only seems to have been used in the recent decade. Maybe the same as laser technology, there's more to come
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It's hard to explain, but laser technologies work well as pew-pew guns in Sci-Fi movies only, but not on planet Earth. I've tried to explain in above, but seems it doesn't work for the people who calls physical law a "wild story". That's like speaking with people who've got their education in some village parish school.

Do you think why all world armies still use old good bullets and missiles instead of this:



There must be a reason, right?
I disagree.

We aren't to the point where a single short burst of a laser light will instantly destroy a large target, but the US Military seems to be working on a laser that can take down missiles and projectiles as well as larger targets such as boats and planes. They expect to deploy this in the next five years.

Lasers will be everything in the future. Imagine having a system with unlimited ammo that can instantly engage targets at any distance and destroy them. It will completely change the the very nature of warfare.

Warfare itself has changed. In the past, there was two huge problems - finding the enemy and then destroying them. Finding them is no longer an issue; Every plane and ship is tracked. This isn't huge news; your local department store tracks you in every aisle and is able to determine when you need help. Destroying a target has become easier and easier; With lasers it will be instant. Eventually will be at a "locate and destroy" instantly.
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I disagree.

We aren't to the point where a single short burst of a laser light will instantly destroy a large target, but the US Military seems to be working on a laser that can take down missiles and projectiles as well as larger targets such as boats and planes. They expect to deploy this in the next five years.
Good luck on that

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Lasers will be everything in the future. Imagine having a system with unlimited ammo that can instantly engage targets at any distance and destroy them. It will completely change the the very nature of warfare.
The energy is not unlimited (show me at list an iPhone which can work for a month w/o re-charging). The laser can not work just instantly. The laser ray need time to heat гз the target. The targets can use anti-laser coating. Laser is absolutely useless in a rainy or snowy weather. Laser can not work at any range. It's effective on a close distance only because... note my posts about Rayleigh scattering. Actually, the real distance is closer than a distance of machine-gun bullet. So course lasers can be used in military, but they are very limited because of our atmosphere and various weather conditions. It will work in some limited cases and on a very limited range.

As I mentioned above, the steam engines are also work, but people are smart enough to avoid their usage on cars and motorbikes. There are more effectively technologies for that.

E.g. this toy is more effective on close ranges than any theoretically invented laser system:



It has missiles that fly in any weather and don't afraid of rains, snows and smoke. Plus to that uses 60 round per second cannons which will cut off any target to pieces like saws in just a moment.

When yo need the long range systems, you will go with those:



Just check out their possibilities: S-400 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and S-500 (missile system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To be short, you can not invent a laser which will be able to hit anything over the horizon (hope don't need to explain why).

P.S. Both systems (Pantsir and S-NNN) have mobile ground-based and stationary navy versions. They don't need so much power as lasers, they can work at almost any distance (including the theoretically unreachable ones for lasers). They work in any weather condition, they a rather cheap, very reliable etc. So that's all about the efficiency. Lasers have lost this battle long before its beginning... Lasers are so 70s
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Warfare itself has changed. In the past, there was two huge problems - finding the enemy and then destroying them. Finding them is no longer an issue; Every plane and ship is tracked. This isn't huge news; your local department store tracks you in every aisle and is able to determine when you need help.
So bad that so expensive stealth technology is finally ruined - everything is being tracked now - even my cat when he hides in the bathroom
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So bad that so expensive stealth technology is finally ruined - everything is being tracked now - even my cat when he hides in the bathroom
more of your pie in the sky rusky dream land. even if ivan could figure out anti-stealth(which you have not), you don't have the cash to do it.
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more of your pie in the sky rusky dream land. even if ivan could figure out anti-stealth(which you have not), you don't have the cash to do it.
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is this your admission that you do not have workable anti-stealth tech and even if you did, your military budget is kaput and couldn't acquisition it?
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Against the low-profile cruise missiles with tactical nuke warheads? Good luck then



P.S. I also was a kid like you and believed into supermen and superweapon. Unfortunately I've grown up, was to army (in your country I would be called a "veteran") and I know what reality is not a cartoon or a comics. A "counter-measure" my ass

P.P.S. Boy, if you think that the US ships (doesn't matter how many) are invulnerable in the Russian zones of influence, you live in a Barbie house. The same applies to the Russian ships in the US zones of influence - both will go down to the sea bottom in a couple of minutes. And don't forget that Russia still has the most advanced rocket/missile systems in the world. Your ships are just "guests" in Baltic and that was demonstrated by Russian pilots - you were "intercepted".
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So bad that so expensive stealth technology is finally ruined - everything is being tracked now - even my cat when he hides in the bathroom
funny how when cberseo needs shit to be tracked, rusky ivan can track everyone's cat, but when he doesn't need tracking, like when drunk ruskies launch tactical nukes, there's no tracking those guys!


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is this your admission that you do not have workable anti-stealth tech
My cat can't afford it so he is traceable even in the bathroom now
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Nope. I don't recognize that cat. Here is mine:

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judging by that state of the art weaponry, it looks like your cat is a rusky officer.
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CyberSEO, you think lasers are stupid, fair enough, lets see some advanced weapons you guys are working on? you honestly believe that missiles, a ww2 tech that has been improved a bit since then is the future of warfare?
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judging by that state of the art weaponry, it looks like your cat is a rusky officer.
No, he's just a sergeant, so he's fully under my command according to the military subordination.

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you honestly believe that missiles, a ww2 tech that has been improved a bit since then is the future of warfare?
I do. If you don't - that's your problem. As far as I see according to this thread, physics is considered like something pseudoscientific in the States. That's why drunk Russian Ivans have won the space race by launching a world first satellite and a first man to the orbit, while you were burring yourselves into X-Men comics. Good luck on that in future

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CyberSEO, you think lasers are stupid, fair enough, lets see some advanced weapons you guys are working on? you honestly believe that missiles, a ww2 tech that has been improved a bit since then is the future of warfare?





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We aren't to the point where a single short burst of a laser light will instantly destroy a large target, but the US Military seems to be working on a laser that can take down missiles and projectiles as well as larger targets such as boats and planes. They expect to deploy this in the next five years.

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saying similar here Rochard, laser defence will be the sign of the future & for those that believe anything else is out there, maybe needed
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Yep, there is no ideal technology and shit happens from time to time. Even Jesus was killed once upon a time The good thing is that no one has died. Right, comrade?
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and here is just another hilarious vid, even more funny, from top 50 of Russian videos for me.


after watching it, you may all continue vigorously your fight titled "who has bigger dick"
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and here is just another hilarious vid, even more funny, from top 50 of Russian videos for me.


after watching it, you may all continue vigorously your fight titled "who has bigger dick"
Here is the best one:

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Good luck on that

The energy is not unlimited (show me at list an iPhone which can work for a month w/o re-charging). The laser can not work just instantly. The laser ray need time to heat гз the target. The targets can use anti-laser coating. Laser is absolutely useless in a rainy or snowy weather. Laser can not work at any range. It's effective on a close distance only because... note my posts about Rayleigh scattering. Actually, the real distance is closer than a distance of machine-gun bullet. So course lasers can be used in military, but they are very limited because of our atmosphere and various weather conditions. It will work in some limited cases and on a very limited range.

As I mentioned above, the steam engines are also work, but people are smart enough to avoid their usage on cars and motorbikes. There are more effectively technologies for that.

E.g. this toy is more effective on close ranges than any theoretically invented laser system:



It has missiles that fly in any weather and don't afraid of rains, snows and smoke. Plus to that uses 60 round per second cannons which will cut off any target to pieces like saws in just a moment.

When yo need the long range systems, you will go with those:



Just check out their possibilities: S-400 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and S-500 (missile system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To be short, you can not invent a laser which will be able to hit anything over the horizon (hope don't need to explain why).

P.S. Both systems (Pantsir and S-NNN) have mobile ground-based and stationary navy versions. They don't need so much power as lasers, they can work at almost any distance (including the theoretically unreachable ones for lasers). They work in any weather condition, they a rather cheap, very reliable etc. So that's all about the efficiency. Lasers have lost this battle long before its beginning... Lasers are so 70s
You really know nothing about how the military works, do you?

The power of a laser is in fact unlimited. A nuclear powered aircraft carrier, for example, could shot down one hundred planes a minute with lasers for sixty years and still power the entire ship.

I am not sure if this carries over into Russian, but in the English speaking world any military force is limited by the "three b's" - Beans, bullets and bandaids. Ammo is the key, but it's complicated, difficult, and time consuming. You have to keep a supply line open to the front; If you cannot supply the forces on the front line you loose. Now imagine that entire convoys are replaced with a single box that can power a laser canon with tens of thousands of rounds.

A fighter jet is limited by how much ammo it can carry, which is really very little. Now imagine a plane having a box the size of a single missile that can fire thousands of shots. The plane will run out of fuel long before it could ever run out of ammo.
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saying similar here Rochard, laser defence will be the sign of the future & for those that believe anything else is out there, maybe needed
The stuff they are making now is insane... They have firearms that can shoot around corners, and bullets that can hit people hiding behind things.
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You really know nothing about how the military works, do you?
It could be funny if some former soldier would teach me (an officer) about the military. But I don't want to argue with you about that, private. I just know physics, which you don't because your education level is... a bit different, and I know that efficiency of lasers is very limited in the Earth's atmosphere. The US military companies can suck out billions for their toys from the stupid taxpayers (yes, I know how business works and the military business is not different), but they won't jump over the physical laws. Period, and goodbye on this thread
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This is how ww3 will break out. Drunk Ivan doing best rusky version of maverick escalates into tactical nukes getting laser beamed.
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If you guys will spend some more time for learning the basics of rocket technologies, perhaps sometimes you will be able to make something really working and effective like S-400 or even (sweet dreams, sweet dreams) S-500 instead of those pew-pew laser toys, and maybe (I say maybe) you will be able to fly into the outer space with your own rockets, and it will be in the real life but not just in Hollywood movies. I do believe someday you will be able do something like that. But for now, please learn physics. It's the only thing that will help you to make something more technological than Facebook. Good luck, once again
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Thanks for a few years of rocket engines but NASA has it from here with the SLS powered by rs25 engines. Also, last I checked, there are no ruskie landing rockets like elon musk and Jeff bezos.
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more of your pie in the sky rusky dream land. even if ivan could figure out anti-stealth(which you have not), you don't have the cash to do it.
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Nice try. You claimed you have in the field anti stealth tech, you don't. I never claimed stealth is 100 % effective in combat. Heads up:. We know stealth isn't pie in the sky invisibility cloak.
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If you guys will spend some more time for learning the basics of rocket technologies, perhaps sometimes you will be able to make something really working and effective like S-400 or even (sweet dreams, sweet dreams) S-500 instead of those pew-pew laser toys, and maybe (I say maybe) you will be able to fly into the outer space with your own rockets, and it will be in the real life but not just in Hollywood movies. I do believe someday you will be able do something like that. But for now, please learn physics. It's the only thing that will help you to make something more technological than Facebook. Good luck, once again
How is your manned moon mission by 2030 coming along? how many DECADES behind would that put you behind the winner of the space race? well, at least maybe you will beat the Chinese to the moon if you are lucky, 2nd place isn't so bad...
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Nice try. You claimed you have in the field anti stealth tech, you don't. I never claimed stealth is 100 % effective in combat. Heads up:. We know stealth isn't pie in the sky invisibility cloak.
s-125 neva is what shot your POS stealth down...this is outdated russian stuff made in 1961 ...nothing like the new stuff they have...



the new stuff they have is much much much better...much...
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s-125 neva is what shot your POS stealth down...this is outdated russian stuff made in 1961 ...nothing like the new stuff they have...

the new stuff they have is much much much better...much...
that's great, except US reconnaissance and stealth aircraft have run 1000s of missions since the 60s... SR-71s have been flying over Russian airspace for decades, and with all those advanced AA systems, you can count the number of aircraft lost on one hand... what gives?
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Old 05-20-2016, 05:52 PM   #186
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s-125 neva is what shot your POS stealth down...this is outdated russian stuff made in 1961 ...nothing like the new stuff they have...



the new stuff they have is much much much better...much...
you're too fucking shell shocked still to even follow a simple thread. i never claimed stealth is 100% but ivan claimed ruskies can track everybody's cats. of course a fucking jet can get shot down. you seem to think we think stealth is an invisibility cloak, that's only part of why you're a dumbfuck.

go back to daydreaming about tactical nuclear generated tsunamis.
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that's great, except US reconnaissance and stealth aircraft have run 1000s of missions since the 60s... SR-71s have been flying over Russian airspace for decades, and with all that advanced AA systems, you can count the number of aircraft lost on one hand... what gives?
dude serbs shot you down...this should make you pause and think...its nice you believe in your military so much



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go back to daydreaming about tactical nuclear generated tsunamis.
pooty to US fleet: "incoming!"
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US fleet: oh thank god! our butties still hurt from vietnam
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USA to serb :





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Old 05-20-2016, 06:29 PM   #189
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I actually touched parts of the f117 I got to play around with the top part, its very well built it has aluminium honey comb structure inside...we gave all the shit to the russians and chinnese so do not worry about your stealth tech falling in to the wrong hands

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I actually touched parts of the f117 I got to play around with the top part, its very well built it has aluminium honey comb structure inside...we gave all the shit to the russians and chinnese so do not worry about your stealth tech falling in to the wrong hands

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

That's pretty funny actually.

It's kinda sad you hate gfyers. I can understand you hating America, you did get blowed the fuck up.

You deserved it though. But taking it out on gfyers, come on.
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If you guys will spend some more time for learning the basics of rocket technologies, perhaps sometimes you will be able to make something really working and effective like S-400 or even (sweet dreams, sweet dreams) S-500 instead of those pew-pew laser toys, and maybe (I say maybe) you will be able to fly into the outer space with your own rockets, and it will be in the real life but not just in Hollywood movies. I do believe someday you will be able do something like that. But for now, please learn physics. It's the only thing that will help you to make something more technological than Facebook. Good luck, once again
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Most likely the coolest weaponary isn't actually known to an ex marine pornographer nor a current Lt pornographer from the russian side.

I heard exo skeleton and actual invisibilty are the new things and have already been field tested. That is from lunatic conspiratard sites so take that as you will. Apparently an invisibile strider exoskeleton is being tested now. So one marine inside can run 20 miles while enjoying air conditioning and the machine does the work totally invisible. Walks into camp paints a target and walks out. Five minutes later kablooey from the sky.

Tanks are also being made invisiblish from like 200m away if it is sitting still you could look right at it.

Then i also heard about about some sort of phase pulse weapon being worked on. When it connects with a target a portion of it phases out. So a large piece of your rocket or plane is suddenly just gone...a big spherical hole just suddenly there.


Again these are from nutters whonheard this it read that secret shit they never show proof for....so you know
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it all looks like from Red Alert game
do they talk about chronosphere, too ?
but hey, sometimes movie and game makers are way ahead of their times,so.....
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Most likely the coolest weaponary isn't actually known to an ex marine pornographer nor a current Lt pornographer from the russian side.

I heard exo skeleton and actual invisibilty are the new things and have already been field tested. That is from lunatic conspiratard sites so take that as you will. Apparently an invisibile strider exoskeleton is being tested now. So one marine inside can run 20 miles while enjoying air conditioning and the machine does the work totally invisible. Walks into camp paints a target and walks out. Five minutes later kablooey from the sky.

Tanks are also being made invisiblish from like 200m away if it is sitting still you could look right at it.

Then i also heard about about some sort of phase pulse weapon being worked on. When it connects with a target a portion of it phases out. So a large piece of your rocket or plane is suddenly just gone...a big spherical hole just suddenly there.


Again these are from nutters whonheard this it read that secret shit they never show proof for....so you know
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Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

That's pretty funny actually.

It's kinda sad you hate gfyers. I can understand you hating America, you did get blowed the fuck up.

You deserved it though. But taking it out on gfyers, come on.
I do not hate anybody I just enjoy a troll every now and then...people enjoy a counter troll or they would just scroll down etc...I enjoy trolling the most about US healthcare and education its really funny
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:51 AM   #195
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s-125 neva is what shot your POS stealth down...this is outdated russian stuff made in 1961 ...nothing like the new stuff they have...



the new stuff they have is much much much better...much...
often systems for export make with low characteristics, but even they work great

laser weapons technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_laser_pistol
old old video.




what new in usa laser?


about stealth in usa )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_U...ons_to_stealth
Ufimtsev became interested in describing the reflection of lasers while working in Moscow. He gained permission to do work on it after being advised that work was useless and would curtail his advancement. Because the work was considered of no military or economic value, Ufimtsev was allowed to publish his work internationally.

A stealth engineer at Lockheed, Denys Overholser, had read the publication and realized that Ufimtsev had created the mathematical theory and tools to do finite analysis of radar reflection.[4] This discovery inspired and had a big role in the design of the first true stealth aircraft, the Lockheed F-117. Northrop also used Ufimtsev's work to program super computers to predict the radar reflection of the B-2 bomber.
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often systems for export make with low characteristics, but even they work great

laser weapons technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_laser_pistol
old old video.




what new in usa laser?


about stealth in usa )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_U...ons_to_stealth
Ufimtsev became interested in describing the reflection of lasers while working in Moscow. He gained permission to do work on it after being advised that work was useless and would curtail his advancement. Because the work was considered of no military or economic value, Ufimtsev was allowed to publish his work internationally.

A stealth engineer at Lockheed, Denys Overholser, had read the publication and realized that Ufimtsev had created the mathematical theory and tools to do finite analysis of radar reflection.[4] This discovery inspired and had a big role in the design of the first true stealth aircraft, the Lockheed F-117. Northrop also used Ufimtsev's work to program super computers to predict the radar reflection of the B-2 bomber.
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The world would be so boring without russians, alcohol... and serbs as sidekicks.
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I do not hate anybody I just enjoy a troll every now and then...people enjoy a counter troll or they would just scroll down etc...I enjoy trolling the most about US healthcare and education its really funny

whatever you tell yourself in the mirror is vastly different from reality. i certainly hope you aren't trying to get me to believe this shit.
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whatever you tell yourself in the mirror is vastly different from reality. i certainly hope you aren't trying to get me to believe this shit.

your foreign policy is the aids and cancer of the world but it has little to do with you guys...you just get to pick a puppet every 4 years and call it "democracy"

I do not even hate the US army guys, they genuinely believe somebody is out to get the USA and that they are some sort of saviors and liberty bringers or whatever

its just very very amusing to watch people defend it...its primo stuff
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