Sassyass

Ok,
I give. America sucks. (How do you like your US developed computer?) We are all sheep, and can?t get out of our own way.(You like your Nike shoes?) God knows that we don't do any good in the world.(Like that fiber we laid across the Atlantic, or those satellites we put up in orbit so you could have this chat)
God I love these posts.
Mika your fun to chat with.

Mr.Fiction

This paragraph is ignorant beyond argument. I just wanted to point it out in case anyone missed it.

12clicks

exactly!

and how much is the US giving this great former union of yours in handouts?

I'd be embarrassed to take handouts.
I'm guessing this is the real reason for the euro-pansy hatred of the US. Embarrassment over needing our handouts

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12clicks

odd how liberal pansies want to call the truth "ignorant"

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Mr.Fiction

Do you think that an American invented the first computer?

Mr.Fiction

Yawn.

roly

i thought it was Adam (and Eve), but i don't know what nationality he was.

12clicks

do you think that matters?

go ahead and embarrass the country that invented it and then couldn't figure out how to take advantage of it until the US got into the game.

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12clicks

oh no! the intelligent comebacks have begun! we're in trouble now!

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mika

1. How do you like your Finnish developed Linux in your computer? (for free, by the way?) I suppose you're patriotic and prefer Windows in your server

2. You like your Nokia cell phone?

3. Yes you do good in the world. I can imagine a hospital advertisement:

BOOB JOB $5000, Get it TODAY!

HEART SURGERY $15,000, cash only, get your #1 spot in the queue for only $9,000

Mr.Fiction

Sarah_Jayne

don't forget the world wide web.


btw..I agree - nice to see you back Mika.

Pornwolf

Pansy...


12Clicks put it much nicer than I would have.

You know what they call people who can't handle the harsh reality of how the world really works...?


Women.

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Gimmy

The former Soviet republics have so much nuclear weapons to make a Sahara desert out of your US, that is the main reason for the handouts

12clicks

the only way anyone would even LOOK at a finish computer product is if its for free.

No but I love my motorola phone


Yes, you would have to imagine it. as both are clearly out of your financial reach. (and if you think that heart surgery can be done for 15,000 I can only imagine what they are passing off as heart surgery in finland.

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12clicks

hey stalin, I thought you were dead.

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mika

Kiss goodbye Motorola, it's way down and bankcrupt soon so better sell your stocks and prepare to buy a Nokia next time.

Besides , the points in the post were not to be taken literally, but since you took them as such, I guess it only reflects the level of your brain action

12clicks

I didn't take them literally. The fact that you think I did only reflects the level of your own brain action

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RodeoCowboy

And where did Red Army get its tanks, guns, ammunition, fuel, etc.? If U.S. don't enter war do you think red army would defeat nazis on eastern front. U.S. was critical in supplying arms to red army and opening a second front.

As far as your comment that Soviet Regime not so bad, that is plain nuts. Just look at the facts. During cold war, how many people risk their lives to escape soviet russia and its puppet states compared to how many people flee America and western europe to go to Russia. No comparisan. If Russia economy is worse now than under Soviets, its not fault of America or Western Europe. Its because Russian society is totally corrupt and controlled by mobsters.

jimmyf

A Mr. Truing ( don't know if I spelled it right ) think his 1st name was Allan shit that's close enough. A Brit. I should have added, what's consider ( guess you could call it this) modern day Puter.

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iroc409

just some interesting things here. my info could be wrong, but according to sources on the net (including computerhistory.org and pbs), here's some interesting things:


the internet was first conceptualized at MIT in the late 50's, early 60's. most of the internet sources after that are US-based, however i'm sure if i dug harder, i can find something that isn't.

as far as the first "computer" goes, that dates back to around 3000 bc - the abacus. it does appear that a german scientist developed the first basic calculator.

it appears that the british built "colossus", the first computer built for artillery calculations, however it was researched and concieved at the Ballistics Research Laboratory in Maryland, and built/finished University of Pennsylvania's Moore School of Electrical Engineering, completed in 1945.

bell telephone developed the transistor in 1947, and we know what that leads to.

in 1952 a brit named Dummer concieved the integrated circuit, but his design fails. in 1959 Texas Instruments and Fairchild semiconductor deliver the first integrated circuit.

in 1964 IBM releases the 360, which quickly becomes the standard for mainframes in institutions.

by the mid 80's ibm makes $100 billion for the 360 and its descendents

just thought i'd throw out some interesting info

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iroc409

oh yeah, according to the timeline on the computer museum in nova scotia, the whole timeline is pretty much US-driven, including the first microprocessor, the 4004 by intel.

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RodeoCowboy

After U.S. bashes Saddam, it needs to bash North Korea, Iran, Libya, Hezbollah and every other despotic regime and sponsor of global terrorism. Let the bombs start dropping!

ControlThy

You making jokes about the intelligence of another individual is funny.

Gimmy

I am not saying that the Soviet Regime was better than the democracy in United States, all I am saying, that the living conditions were much much better during the Soviet era, than right now, where old people and the population in general is starving there. Exactly, Russia right now is run by mobsters, it is because the Soviet regime is not there anymore.

Who in the hell gave you the idea that the U.S. supplied arms to Russia??? That is even funny. Russia always had and has a huge military arsenal, actually all that the Soviet Union did was to make tanks, guns ect.. The question still stands, who first entered Berlin????

ControlThy

Hehe

ControlThy

Um Ron,

I assume that you do keep an eye on the US economic situation? If the US keeps making more and more debts like they do now, they will be the one asking for handouts.

So enjoy the time you can still live of your creditcards Ronny.

What do you think happens when the US can no longer fund their large military? They lose their position as military super power, which is the only reason other nations accept the shit the US throws at them.

mika

President Bush probably thinks that larger military spending must be met with large tax cuts.

Enjoy it now my American friends, after a few years it can be late

theking

The living conditions may have been better, but the Soviet Union was always known by the West to be a third world country with a "Military". You are more correct than not that the Soviets built their machines of war during the Second World War, but the USA did provide them aide. US commanders made the decision to allow Soviet forces to enter Berlin and held our forces back.

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The economic an military collaspe will not happen in your life time.

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Sassyass

Isn't Apple based on a Motorola chip design?

Anyhting out of Japan is basicly American. We gave them the technology boost for bombing them in WWII.
What I don't understand is the general lack of gratitude for America and it's contributions to the world.

ControlThy

Neither in yours, Pathfinder.

Because you died already. (according to yourself)

Dveron

Agreed.

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mika

As long as USA "contributes" in Iraq and Middle East and don't come near our borders I'm pretty happy

Dveron

I think if I had to live in Finland I would be pissed at the world also...at least you have those good old US cheques from Sponsors to buy your US designed products with.

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Gimmy

Stalin could care less of the decisions made by US or their commanders. The US did not enter Berlin, because they did not want to loose any men!

Soviet Union, a third world country???? What the hell are you saying??? Soviets sent the first man into space, Yuri Gagarin.

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It is difficult for me to understand why some of you people are so obessed with PF. It is difficult for me to understand why you cannot accept the fact that a seventy year old man died of a stroke. Doing a quick search of PF's posts I quickly found at least one post where he had spoke about having had strokes.

On 07-02-2002 PF posted this and actually understated the extent of damage that having strokes had caused him. He had many strokes over a period of several years. It was clear to those that knew him that his memory had been affected, but probably not as clear to those that did not know him as he would have appeared to still be sharp to them. The last stroke that he had prior to his death left him partially paralyzed and with slurred speech. The doctor had told us that he would undoubedtly have a stroke that would kill him and there was not alot that could be done about it. We, the family, were prepared for his death on any given day. He also was a diabetic. At least two people that are members of this board knew him (three counting me) and at least one other member other than myself has posted that he is in fact dead. Read it, learn it, know it and get the fuck over it.


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Actually this is new information that I cannot recall ever hearing about. I am old and I have had a few minor strokes that have affected my memory to some extent, so I am not intellectually as sharpe as I used to be. It is possible that this info disappeared as did the "piano lessons".

I am intrigued by it and will read some more about it. One thing I did run across on one of the links:

http://www.thethresher.com/indiscreet.html

"The most frequently cited and circulated source of Bush-Nazi investigations/conspiranoia, George Bush-The Unauthorized Biography (a biography of George Herbert Walker Bush) by Webster Griffin Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin, published in 1992, while well-documented, is also the most suspect. The problem is that Tarpley and Chaitkin are colleagues of the political cult leader Lyndon LaRouche. Not surprisingly, they insist on overlaying otherwise solidly researched data with wildly speculative interpretations. The book, originally published by LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review, though "out of print," is ubiquitous on the web, and freely used and quoted by Bush conspiranoia buffs of all persuasions."

This makes me think that alot of what is said about this subject will have to be taken with a grain of salt, but apparently the government did take control of the company.
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Thank you for the compliment. PF was a great man, a unique man, a mans man, and a warrior. I have spent most of my life trying to emmulate him (unsuccessfully I might add), may he rest in peace.

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ControlThy

What makes you think all sponsors are located in the US?

I rather get paid in EURO's right now, kid.

theking

As I stated, and as you have verified, US Commanders made the decision to allow the Soviet Forces to enter Berlin.

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mika

Are you saying that you're proud of the fact that American consumers spend their money for watching a few clips in paysites and paying 39.95 and most of them even thinking they got it for free or only paid 3.95

While the European friend fucks her gf like there's no tomorrow and if he actually wants to see online porn he can easily do it for free since his computer skills are about twice as good as his American friend's

Why wouldn't the Europeans be using this fact to their advantage?

It's called export, pussy boy

I'd rather wish my country exports porn than imports it...

ControlThy

Theking,

Do you get a hard-on quoting your own messages? (or is that part of your body inactive also? I apologize if it is....)

theking

I get a woody when I expose you as the fool that you are. You do not have pyschic powers. I think that I have told you this before. Replace the tinfoil please.

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RodeoCowboy

I am not saying that Russia did not have a huge military arsenal. But after 4 years of war it was depleted. Towards the end the U.S. was a huge supplier of arms and diesel fuel to Red Army. You best check your history.

So what if Red Army first to enter Berlin. What about the rest of Europe? Which army was first to enter Paris, Amsterdam, Rome, and 100's of other European town and cities. Thank God it was the Americans. Look at the countries which the Soviets entered. ie. Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, East Germany etc. During Soviet occupation what was their experience? I have met 100's of people who escaped Eastern Europe during soviet rule and they all say the same thing. Life under the soviets was horrible. Compare that to the countries the U.S. entered, ie. France, Holland, Belgium, West Germany, Italy, etc. What was their experience? It was much much much better. ie. freedom and prosperity.

Yes compared to the Nazis, the Soviets were better, but compared to western democratic countries, such as U.S., Canada, U.K., France etc. the Soviets were evil and despotic.

If Russia has problems now its because of its own failings. Russia needs to rid itself of corruption. Russians need to learn how to do business honestly. Why do you think so many sponsors ban Russian webmasters? Do you see any sponsors banning American webmasters?

ControlThy

Um no, you never told me that. (or maybe I am trying to forget ;-)

Must be the problems you are having with your memory.

Oh man, you are a human wreck.

matty

im a relativist, not an absolutist

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Stalin could care less of the decisions made by US or their commanders. The US did not enter Berlin, because they did not want to loose any men!

Soviet Uninon, a third world country???? What the hell are you saying??? Soviets sent the first man into space, Yuri Gagarin.
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I was referring to the standard of living in the Soviet Union being that of many third world nations. The standard of living did not even began to compare to the West's standard of living. For many of the same reasons that North Korea is a third world country with a "military" while South Korea prospers.

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NetRodent

The US and the USSR both contributed heavily to the war effort. To say either side alone saved Europe is incorrect. However, don't forget that Stalin had that nice little deal with Hitler to split Poland.

Some Russians don't think the soviet regime was that bad. However almost every Russain (not to mention Pole, Romanian and Bulgarian) that I've known thought communism was a joke. Also the facts speak for themselves that the communist system collapsed (and with a few exceptions it collapsed around the world).

Here's the simple test for rating "good" countries: Simply look at which countries have people immigrating vs. which countries have people emmigrating. If people flee a country in droves it is a "bad" country. If they flock to a country it is a "good" country.

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american pervert

no shit.. that and the beds.. why can't europe have some decent beds in their hotels and why is all the toilet paper so fucking aweful???

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ControlThy

If you don't like the beds and toilet paper in European hotels - stay at home.

No one will miss you ;-)