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Old 07-25-2014, 08:37 AM   #1
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how do they know pin for the credit cards ?
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"Sorry that we make a shoot down of your families members. Thanks for the jewelries and monies assholes."

Pretty sad that the families will not get their loved ones property back. Really disrespectful shit.

Very complicated situation. Not really sure where you start on getting justice against unsanctioned militias, supported by the Russian government.

Sad all the same.
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Would anything less be expected from a Russian?
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how do they know pin for the credit cards ?
Never had credit card in your life?
They don't need a pin.
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All my credit card's have pin. Its new technology this modern days .
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All my credit card's have pin. Its new technology this modern days .


Does your credit card have low APR of 58% and monthly fee of $30 as well?
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i wonder if Russia would really like to welcome that scum to their territory...
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In Europe they do. American credit cards still just got the magnetic strip and not got a chip in them yet?
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In Europe they do. American credit cards still just got the magnetic strip and not got a chip in them yet?
they can still be used online without a pin?

what makes me curious is how did these people run cards in some bizarre area of the world without the transaction being blocked?
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Does your credit card have low APR of 58% and monthly fee of $30 as well?
20% APR and there is no such a monthly fee.

Its just banks and retailers are being cheap and still use traditional credit cards instead of chip cards with PINs, or chip-and-PIN cards.
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they can still be used online without a pin?

what makes me curious is how did these people run cards in some bizarre area of the world without the transaction being blocked?
Pretty easy when you have someone's wallet, zip codes, cvv, addresses, ssn, etc. you are essentially that person on paper and verified to purchase. I am sure that in Russia you aren't asked for a photo ID when you present a card at Ivan's Guns and Ammo.
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Pretty easy when you have someone's wallet, zip codes, cvv, addresses, ssn, etc. you are essentially that person on paper and verified to purchase. I am sure that in Russia you aren't asked for a photo ID when you present a card at Ivan's Guns and Ammo.
i am thinking internet purchases, but the location is a place the people were never gonna be, or doubtfully ever were.

If i were to fly to montreal, and try and buy something with my card in person, id have to directly communicate with my creditcard company via phone to confirm this. Generally, id just alert them before hand to travelling.

if my card was to suddenly be used in eastern ukraine? id fall over it worked.
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i am thinking internet purchases, but the location is a place the people were never gonna be, or doubtfully ever were.

If i were to fly to montreal, and try and buy something with my card in person, id have to directly communicate with my creditcard company via phone to confirm this. Generally, id just alert them before hand to travelling.

if my card was to suddenly be used in eastern ukraine? id fall over it worked.
Agreed. My cards get blocked even in the USA after 3 purchases and I have to call the assholes and jump through hoops to get them to turn it back on.

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In Europe they do. American credit cards still just got the magnetic strip and not got a chip in them yet?
My Chase and Citi cards all have chips. And I have about 15. None have PIN.
Which banks are you boys using?
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Does your credit card have low APR of 58% and monthly fee of $30 as well?
They all have pin in advanced countries ...
As for rates of interest they are the standard 19% and I don`t give a shit as I pay the balances in full on all my cards .

As for the OP subject , no surprise from Ukranians, Romanians, etc ....
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20% APR and there is no such a monthly fee.

Its just banks and retailers are being cheap and still use traditional credit cards instead of chip cards with PINs, or chip-and-PIN cards.
So how do you use them on-line? Call your pin in?
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i am thinking internet purchases, but the location is a place the people were never gonna be, or doubtfully ever were.

If i were to fly to montreal, and try and buy something with my card in person, id have to directly communicate with my creditcard company via phone to confirm this. Generally, id just alert them before hand to travelling.

if my card was to suddenly be used in eastern ukraine? id fall over it worked.
wow, I buy in Cuba, Mexico, USA ... never have to do that . On the other hand, I do fill the travel advisory section on line for each card I bring .
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They all have pin in advanced countries ...
As for rates of interest they are the standard 19% and I don`t give a shit as I pay the balances in full on all my cards .

As for the OP subject , no surprise from Ukranians, Romanians, etc ....
Advanced countries? Please. Again, how do you use them for on-line purchases?
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There is no pin. Simple just type it in your cc number, there is CCV number at the back also.
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So how do you use them on-line? Call your pin in?
Pin is for card present transaction , ..... obviously .

CVV for on line, plus sometimes '' verified by Visa '' ...

You really have credit Cards or they are '' prepaid cards '' ....
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i wonder if Russia would really like to welcome that scum to their territory...
I don't think so. They asked to join them at least two times and were rejected. Putin also asked the DNR separatists to postpone with a referendum, but they told him "fuck off". Those who think that these Ukrainian separatists are controlled by Putin are real idiots

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There is no pin. Simple just type it in your cc number, there is CCV number at the back also.
Then I guess you answered your original question. Obviously the card wasn't used at local supermarket with name of Haaans VanBrucelhoff on it.
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Pin is for card present transaction , ..... obviously .

CVV for on line, plus sometimes '' verified by Visa '' ...

You really have credit Cards or they are '' prepaid cards '' ....
Yes, prepaid Amex Platinum and Black Exec Citicard. Both prepaid
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I don't think so. They asked to join them at least two times and were rejected. Putin also asked the DNR separatists to postpone with a referendum, but they told him "fuck off". Those who think that these Ukrainian separatists are controlled by Putin are real idiots

P.S. Putin can't control his own country, because he is incompetent asshole.
so he could easily step up and say "we don't want those people and we don't support them" (opposed to other countries he doesn't even have to be scared to lose any elections...)

instead the 2 (russian by passport) separatist leaders are celebrated as "true russians" by (nationalist) russian magazines and all the blame from russias side goes to the ukraine government

something doesn't fit together here
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CVV2 code on the back of the card, plus 3 randomly chosen characters out of a password.
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so he could easily step up and say "we don't want those people and we don't support them" (opposed to other countries he doesn't even have to be scared to lose any elections...)
He is a puppet that doesn't want to "lose its face". There is nothing he can do for real. From the very beginning this idiot thought he is controlling the situation there, but he wasn't. Now it gone too far and I can only guess how exactly he will be trying to distance from the situation on the Ukraine. This civilian war was inevitable (even I mentioned that here when Maydan revolution just started). So it was 100% initiated by the Maydan revolution but not by Putin. Putin just wanted to play on it and that was a real bad idea for him...
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What? I buy stuff online on daily basis and yet to see this feature. What advanced country would that be? Romania or Vietnam?
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what makes me curious is how did these people run cards in some bizarre area of the world without the transaction being blocked?

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What? I buy stuff online on daily basis and yet to see this feature. What advanced country would that be? Romania or Vietnam?
We have it the UK as well - 'Verified By Visa' and MC have a similar scheme...

The US system is way out of date - I assume it would just be too expensive.....
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We have it the UK as well - 'Verified By Visa' and MC have a similar scheme...

The US system is way out of date - I assume it would just be too expensive.....
We have "verified by visa". Im talking about random 3 letters out of the password. Show me one online store that does it.
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random 3 letters out of the password = "verified by visa" in UK.
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You get hit with it the first you use most online stores here...

Some banks use a different system where you have a password and answer a security question - It's not down to the store it's your issuing bank that enforces it - When you verify you get sent back to the site.....
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what makes me curious is how did these people run cards in some bizarre area of the world without the transaction being blocked?
They probably had the entire wallet with identification etc., and whoever they were (the legit owner of the card), they were traveling internationally, so they were probably making purchases in different countries.

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saw a pile of wallets and people standing there. i bet they were fighting! all the cash in there. travel money people have. that's blood money they will have nightmares.
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how do they know pin for the credit cards ?
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They probably had the entire wallet with identification etc., and whoever they were (the legit owner of the card), they were traveling internationally, so they were probably making purchases in different countries.
the entire wallet doesn't matter.. if someone attempts to buy something online with my card in eastern ukraine.. it's not going through lol

i can't even use my own card with my entire wallet of identification within my own country without talking to someone
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that's a miracle
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Pin is for card present transaction , ..... obviously .

CVV for on line, plus sometimes '' verified by Visa '' ...

You really have credit Cards or they are '' prepaid cards '' ....


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I'm not surprised at all, or even sad because this is the world we live in. Sadly its becoming every person for themselves.
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