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Old 03-09-2003, 03:54 PM   #1
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Was surfing through the adult.com thread and found this, figured id bring it here and share it, was a very interesting read.

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I'd say that about....uhmmmmmm....at least 40% of adult webmasters ARE BUYING UNQUALIFIED, NON AGE VERIFIED SURFERS HARDCORE EXPLICIT PORN!

Yes, read it again if you want...fuck, carve it into your friggin forehead if that's gonna get it through your thick skull...chances are you're doing it too.

I'll say it again...ALMOST HALF THE ADULT WEBMASTERS OUT THERE ARE BUYING PORN FOR OTHER PEOPLE. People who's age is unknown and people who will cease to pay for porn because some generous webmaster said, "not only will I buy you hardcore porn, anytime you want more come back and see me and I'll buy you more."

These webmasters are not giving it away for free...they are buying it for others.

Last rant and I'll get tot the point...would you stand out in front of a liquor store or sex shop and buy all the passers by, regardless of age, a porn magazine and then as they walk away yell, "Come back if you want more."

FUCK NO!

You'd not only end up in the poorhouse, you'd probably be arrested.

Here's the point, every single image, graphic, block of text, movie, whatever, you serve to the web requires bandwidth right? And bandwidth costs money right? Content costs money right? The time it takes to put a graphic together, encode a movie, write some text is money right, time is money right?

My question becomes...what is that text, content, graphic doing for you? Is it paying your bills? It better be or you are not long for the halls of adult webmastering.

In the immortal words of Lensman himself, "Why buy the pig if you can pork it for free?!" "ok?"

I really wish I had the link to this dudes gallery, it was 20 crisp large FULLY HARDCORE PICS with and amateurpages banner below it. And he had like 40 galleries all different content plastered all over the place...guess why he had amateurpages there???


BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY FUCKING PROGRAM THAT'D PAY HIM!!!

He can't convert a per sign up program cause all his fucking surfers are cleaning up their own cum with a sock while they click right thru the friggin tour...if they even get that far...fucking moron! The guy is one step away from burning dvd's and posting them on kazaa...and it maddens me...

MAKE THE SURFER PAY FOR PINK. TEASE THEM WITH THE PORN YOU BUY FOR THEM...LEARN TO SELL. Pack that shit away in a memebers area somewhere and tell them how much it'll cost and how to get there...but for chrissake's people don't hand it to them on a silver fucking platter!

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Old 03-09-2003, 03:56 PM   #2
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Old 03-09-2003, 03:57 PM   #3
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btw heres the link to the actual thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=101826
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Old 03-09-2003, 03:58 PM   #4
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"all his fucking surfers are cleaning up their own cum with a sock"

I'm not the only one who does that? Cool
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Old 03-09-2003, 05:36 PM   #5
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so i submitted a couple of ap click pic galleries.... no hardcore, single girl, no closeup on genitals, etc etc.... tried to do all the right things etc to ensure that some conversion would be had....

pity no one would list a gallery like that (not to mention the number of TGPs that refuse to list ap click pic galleries).... with one gallery i made like $2 and the other is currently running at 24c....

I'd be interested in hearing from hoax or lensman on how to gain listings at tgps whilst maintaining conversions
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:01 PM   #6
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id like to know also, i pretty much gave up on making galleries for them, yet i still do fantastic with the sponsor overall.
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:09 PM   #7
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:15 PM   #8
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shouldnt the big tgp owners start takin some responsibilty here? but fuck it... i guess if "we" (the submitters) keep puttin the shit up & footin the bandwidth bill, they'll post it... so y should they care? i guess that's why the only thing that will make real, regularly recurring dough is shit you can't find on tgp's...

long story short, i tell my advertisers NEVER to put any hardcore shit in the sets they send to me & if they do, make it ONE pic that will get them to your tour... stop givin our money away people!

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Old 03-09-2003, 06:23 PM   #9
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Im lost.
What's the point and the message here?
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:36 PM   #10
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good fucking luck getting listed anywhere with traffic that is any good just using teaser galleries. I submit a teaser gallery to thehun, i "might" get listed, but if i do i get decent sales. If i submit a gallery showing closeups and some pussy, I get listed really high and foot a huge bandwidth bill and get ONE sale......
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:38 PM   #11
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What's the point and the message here?
sumpin about too much free porn and me havin a bitch cause i cant get listed at any decent sized TGP
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Old 03-09-2003, 06:49 PM   #12
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u bastard,im with 11k posts n' u never started a thread quoting me
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Old 03-09-2003, 08:37 PM   #13
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u bastard,im with 11k posts n' u never started a thread quoting me

lol i didnt start it because he has all those posts, i started it because those are wise words for submitters to learn.


say something iwse and ill quote you, lol
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Old 03-09-2003, 08:52 PM   #14
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Just because a TGP won't accept a non-explicit gallery doesn't mean you can tone it down a bit. One or two explicit shots instead of half of them will improve your sales to any paysite.
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Old 03-09-2003, 08:54 PM   #15
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shouldnt the big tgp owners start takin some responsibilty here?
Keep dreaming dude... Why isn't the USA a socialist country? Because some people got rich way back and now are unwilling to share. (Not saying the USA should be socialist, but you get the point)
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Old 03-09-2003, 09:16 PM   #17
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Was surfing through the adult.com thread and found this, figured id bring it here and share it, was a very interesting read.

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I'd say that about....uhmmmmmm....at least 40% of adult webmasters ARE BUYING UNQUALIFIED, NON AGE VERIFIED SURFERS HARDCORE EXPLICIT PORN!

Yes, read it again if you want...fuck, carve it into your friggin forehead if that's gonna get it through your thick skull...chances are you're doing it too.

I'll say it again...ALMOST HALF THE ADULT WEBMASTERS OUT THERE ARE BUYING PORN FOR OTHER PEOPLE. People who's age is unknown and people who will cease to pay for porn because some generous webmaster said, "not only will I buy you hardcore porn, anytime you want more come back and see me and I'll buy you more."

These webmasters are not giving it away for free...they are buying it for others.

Last rant and I'll get tot the point...would you stand out in front of a liquor store or sex shop and buy all the passers by, regardless of age, a porn magazine and then as they walk away yell, "Come back if you want more."

FUCK NO!

You'd not only end up in the poorhouse, you'd probably be arrested.

Here's the point, every single image, graphic, block of text, movie, whatever, you serve to the web requires bandwidth right? And bandwidth costs money right? Content costs money right? The time it takes to put a graphic together, encode a movie, write some text is money right, time is money right?

My question becomes...what is that text, content, graphic doing for you? Is it paying your bills? It better be or you are not long for the halls of adult webmastering.

In the immortal words of Lensman himself, "Why buy the pig if you can pork it for free?!" "ok?"

I really wish I had the link to this dudes gallery, it was 20 crisp large FULLY HARDCORE PICS with and amateurpages banner below it. And he had like 40 galleries all different content plastered all over the place...guess why he had amateurpages there???


BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY FUCKING PROGRAM THAT'D PAY HIM!!!

He can't convert a per sign up program cause all his fucking surfers are cleaning up their own cum with a sock while they click right thru the friggin tour...if they even get that far...fucking moron! The guy is one step away from burning dvd's and posting them on kazaa...and it maddens me...

MAKE THE SURFER PAY FOR PINK. TEASE THEM WITH THE PORN YOU BUY FOR THEM...LEARN TO SELL. Pack that shit away in a memebers area somewhere and tell them how much it'll cost and how to get there...but for chrissake's people don't hand it to them on a silver fucking platter!

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Nice post ! Always something good to kearn here !
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Old 03-09-2003, 09:18 PM   #18
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Keep dreaming dude... Why isn't the USA a socialist country? Because some people got rich way back and now are unwilling to share. (Not saying the USA should be socialist, but you get the point)
I think we should be socialist.
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I think we should be socialist.
And you're perfectly entitled to that opinion, as guaranteed by your non-socialist constitution. :D
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And you're perfectly entitled to that opinion, as guaranteed by your non-socialist constitution. :D
I think we need a socialist constitution. Woohoo!
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I think we need a socialist constitution. Woohoo!
Sure, I'd love to see that happen. Would make for some VERY interesting research. Socialist USA, what a thought.
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Nice post ! Always something good to kearn here !
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well, here we go again, to satisfy a certain tgp I added explicit shots to teh thumbs,,, 0:419 after 80k visitors.... proof that giving away too much ruins sales
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Just wonder when all the gallerymakers and all the sponsors will realise that TGP is nothing but a waste of bandwidth...
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Just wonder when all the gallerymakers and all the sponsors will realise that TGP is nothing but a waste of bandwidth...
alot of people clean up on tgp's... tgp's are a great source of bandwidth, however, I think that tgp owners are getting too cocky and asking too much from gallery submitters. Sure they provide us with bandwidth, but they don't care that it's near impossible to make money and satisfy freeloaders at same time. If anything, gallery makers have more money and bandwidth on the line than the tgp owners do. This is why i decided not to run a tgp anymore. relying on someone else's business loss is not my idea of a good business to be in. SO now I'm generating my own traffic, fuck tgp's
edit: there is still a small handfull of tgp's I'll bother with only because they understand I'm submitting to them to make money, not give away free porn
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Just wonder when all the gallerymakers and all the sponsors will realise that TGP is nothing but a waste of bandwidth...
Only If you don't know how to market and sell, if you know how you will become very sucessful in that part of the biz.
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I think that tgp owners are getting too cocky and asking too much from gallery submitters.
People were saying that already a couple of years ago. Now TGP traffic converts worse than ever. Wonder what people will be saying a couple of years from now...
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People were saying that already a couple of years ago. Now TGP traffic converts worse than ever. Wonder what people will be saying a couple of years from now...
they will be saying "remember when you actualy had to pay for SOME porn? Boy I'm sure glad nobody has to pay for it anymore"
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they will be saying "remember when you actualy had to pay for SOME porn? Boy I'm sure glad nobody has to pay for it anymore"
I seriously doubt it that will ever happen. However, if it would happen then we'd most certainly see a porn dot com bust, just as we saw a mainstream dot com bust a couple of years ago.
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I seriously doubt it that will ever happen. However, if it would happen then we'd most certainly see a porn dot com bust, just as we saw a mainstream dot com bust a couple of years ago.

if so the only thing that will survive is the BIG players and the amateur sites such as webcam bitch sites that have built a cult following.
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