2MuchMark

So, I really love Tesla's, but the price is out of range since we plan to buy a new house this summer, soooo... I am trading in my Camaro for a CHEVY VOLT, and I can't wait! I'll be taking delivery in about a week.

The Volt is a plug-in electric car. The range is about 75 Kilometers but the car has a gas-powered generator that takes over when battery power is depleted. Considering my average commute though, I will rarely if ever have to buy gas for it.

Please email all your republican friends and let them know that the keystone pipeline is no longer necessary. The world is slowly evolving and getting away from smelly, polluting, inefficient gasoline.

Woo!

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https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133063

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Almost 40% of your electric ……. but go ahead and feel superior.






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MrBottomTooth

Lol at 75 km electric range and 15 hour charge times. You're still sucking off the teet of the gas & oil industry if you drive one of these, unless you barely drive anywhere in a day. If that is the case, a true liberal environmentalist would choose public transit. It's the only responsible choice.

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holy fucking godzilla, I wasn't prepared for all the lolz!!!!!!!


+ the nissan leaf is a much better car than the volt.

Joshua G

thank you for switching from the republican fossil fuel to the democrat fossil fuel. either way, the penguins are still fucked.

dyna mo

I suggest filtering out homes with attached garages in your house search.

2MuchMark

That is true in some locations, but not here. I live in Montreal, Canada. 100% of our electricity comes from renewable energy, Hydro Electric.


Not true. It takes 4 hours to fully charge a Chevy Volt. When I am home for the night all I have to do is plug it in, and its fully charged a good 4 hours before I wake up in the morning.


Not true. I live about 10 kilometres from downtown. I can drive there and back at least 3 times on a single charge. But since I can charge my car here at home and plug it in an an EV station (for free), its not a worry for me.

If I do run low on batter, the gas engine powers a GENERATOR, which in turn powers the electric motor.



If that is the case, a true liberal environmentalist would choose public transit. It's the only responsible choice.[/QUOTE]


I looked at the Leaf, but decided I liked the Volt better. A good second choice was the Ford Focus Electric but they are special order only and it takes about 5 months to get one. I didn't feel like waiting.

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It's as if people think electricity is a magic energy source with no creation point?

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I'd rather pay about $2.41 instead of $80.00, just to go 350 Kilometres. Kisses.

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My cousin drives one of these. He refuses to park it in his garage now and it takes more than 4 hours to charge, even though that's the number they give.

You were gonna buy a Tesla and now you'll settle for an electric Chevy Cruze? Come on now.

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My goal is to go off the grid completely... I went to a solar power seminar last weekend, so that will happen in the next year or so. After that I'm pretty confident it will be a Tesla.

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that same magical source where they get their free healthcare.

michael.kickass

Congratz on the car change!

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So instead you spend $15,000 to $20,000 extra for an electric option on what is basically a Chevy Cruze?

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MrBottomTooth

4 hours is for a 240 volt connection. If you plug it into a regular socket it takes 15 hours. I don't know about you, but the only place I regularly see 240 volt connections is behind electric dryers. Of course you can always have one installed, but it's not like you can just grab any power source wherever you are and charge it quickly with a regular extension cord.

Also looks like you can't just use a regular 240 volt outlet, you have to buy one of their charging stations. Check out the price of these:

http://www.pluginnow.com/charging_stations

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Mark, when I saw the stats on the Chevy Volt...I wasn't pleased.

The Tesla is of course THE one.

But if you can't afford that at the moment and just really, really want an electric car...the Nissan Leaf appears to be far superior:
http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-ca...cc=0.240189300

But I guess it's a little late for you to change things.

I'm guessing you'll enjoy the Volt. A new car is always fun no matter what. I just think you could have made a better decision on it IF you had consulted with GFY first! lol

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i've never been to a inefficient power source seminar myself.. ;)

off the grid is an overrated fairy tail. People do it, but spend far far too much and are still disappointed. Does anyone ever practice moderation anymore?

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I know. I am a terrible human being. (...and It's a "Volt". They look like a Cruise, though...)


Fucking awesome. :thum bsup


Thanks! woo!


Not true. A Fully loaded Cruise in Canada is $30,375. A fully loaded Volt is $42,000. Quebec Pays $8000 tax credit to buy an EV, bringing the price down to $34,000, making the cost difference only $4000.

220/240 Volt connections are in every home here for washer / dryers. A charger is included with the Volt (and Tesla). An electrician can easily run the 240 lines to your garage.

There are currently Two hundred and Fifty 240 Volt charging stations in Quebec, and 10 of them within a few kilometres of me, and 2 of them within 4 blocks of me.


I really did consider the Leaf, but I didn't like the "fit". I'm 6'3" and found the car to be pretty snug, and also I'm not that crazy about the styling. Nice car for sure, but...

And yes, Tesla IS king... but if I have to choose between a Tesla and a house, I'll take a house...


Just because it isn't perfect doesn't mean it should be ignored...

peace

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dyna mo

**********, what's PT like in your city?

Seth Manson

Why dont you buy a car built by a Canadian manufacturer?

MrBottomTooth

According to the chevy website they only include the 110 volt charger. You have to pay for more for the 240 volt.

http://gm-volt.com/2010/10/06/gm-ann...vice-provider/

http://www.carsdirect.com/automotive...n-not-included

Add another $2000 to the price of the car if you want 4 hour charging.


Are you even buying one or are you just trolling again? Seems like you should know this stuff if you are picking one up in a week.

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Also when you are house shopping, make sure there's enough room left on the panel for you to add that 220 circuit, or it will get expensive.

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It's pretty good, and I use it alot. It costs about $3.00 for the casual user but you can buy passes which save users money too.

Camaro's are assembled in Oshawa, Ontario. Both my camaros (2010, 2013) were built there. Each of my Firebirds ('87, 89, 91, 94, 99, 01) were built just north of Montreal, here in Canada. The Volt is the first non Canadian-built car I'll be buying. - it is built in Detroit, MI. You're welcome.

Mine is included. Sorry, Tex. I'm a good negotiator. I'm getting the 8K discount from the gov', a $1000 loyalty discount from GM, and $2100 discount because my better half's company does lots of business with GM. $11,000 in discounts is a pretty sweet deal, even if you're not an EV fanboy like me.

Definitely buying, but I understand your concern.


Thanks for the tip! But yes I am already asking about that... Some of the new homes here already have 220 in the garages, though they are still rare.

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No problem, if it's included then you obviously had to pay more for it, as it's not standard equipment, champ.

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I guess this means I can't use my ********** doing burnouts in a camaro bit anymore. :-(

That was a good bit!

One last time!

_Richard_

electric car?

please

2MuchMark

and

By the way Bottomtooth, even EV buyers want to add the 240 Volt charger, the price is only $490 USD or 521 CAD: http://www.pluginnow.com/content/gm-voltec. Installation here is $60 per hour and expected to take 2 hours only. Even the page you quoted says $490. The NISSAN charger is $2200, according to you. DERP!




Nnnooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Tell you what. When I get it I'll post some pictures of it with me beside it, or driving it, or plugging it in, etc. Maybe you can photoshop a picture of me electrocuting my balls on it or something.




I have a question for you. You are sounded by electrically powered stuff. Your computer, home stereo, TV's, lights, cellphone, toaster, stove, etc. Subways are electric. Maybe you even have an electric toothbrush.

Why not an electric car?

For casual driving at least, isn't it at least, an interesting alternative to gasoline?

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Me too lazy to look the info up? You can't even be bothered to read the info on the very link you posted.

That price is for the PART ONLY moron. If you want more than a 1 year warranty on it then you have to go through their recommended supplier for installation which is close to $1500 on top of that.

You might want to spring for the $1500 installation as well to get the better warranty, because lots of people have been having their chargers crap out at just over a year.

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How could you not see this on the link I posted at the beginning of this thread, posted on the gm-volt site?
Nothing to do with Nissan.

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I'm not so sure about that.... There are federal and state programs that give you assistance, plus our county has a program called "mpower" that helps too. Factor in a tax write off and the fact that instead of paying $400 a month to the power company I would be paying $100 a month to own the system... Sounds like a deal to me.

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Lol!! Nevermind... you clearly don't give a fuck. The website says there are INCENTIVES for the installation of these things too and in some places, installation is FREE.

But hey! So what if it wasn't! OMG Better stop all electric car sales and stay on Gasoline forever. Thank god for The Koch Brothers, and BP, and the Tar Sands.. please let us pay too much for energy while we choke every person and animal on the planet at the same time. Fucking H christ...

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Seth Manson

Regardless of where they are assembled, those are made by an American manufacturer. Just like Honda motorcycles built in Ohio are still Japanese motorcycles.

So why dont you buy a Canadian car?

MrBottomTooth

You're right, I don't. Sorry, chalk this one up to being bored.

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1916 Russell Motor Cars based out of Toronto are becoming hard to find.


And our Brooks Steam automobiles never really took off.

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_Richard_

that's a lot of talking about a car that isn't electric.

it's a hybrid.

a great deal of money has been spent by GMC to even use the term 'electric' and get all the tax benefits, et al, in order to market it to people who get a hard on for 'ELECTRIC / GREEN / ORGANIC'

so what you have done, is purchased something that degrades the whole premise of an electric car

well done.

ErectMedia

I personally have no interest in an electric car as I figure a gas 4 cylinder is cheaper and good enough. Pay extra for electric and then when it does need work either expensive or impossible to fix yourself without melting the neighborhood. If I did consider one doubt I'd do a Volt.

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Very sad day, what kind of man sells his Camaro for that woofter car

Also, it is interesting, the batterys in these cars are part of the problem......

Source

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Check the video on changing a Tesla electric motor. It is nothing. They are the future.

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I just got an electric bike on Amazon love the freedom. Goes 25 miles one charge!

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They're even better when the weather gets cold, great car for Canada.

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Hi Richard,

It's not a hybrid. It's an "EV", or "Extended Range Vehicle". In an EV, the electric motor powers the wheels, and a gas motor turns a generator which powers the electric motor when the batteries die. All of the cars momentum comes from the electric motor.

A Hybrid car uses both motors to power the wheels, and has no generator. The cars momentum comes from both an electric and gas powered motor.

However, there are some plug-in hybrids that switch between both gas and electric.

Regardless, I think I understand your point. I would love to have a car like a Tesla that is pure electric. Having to carry around a gasoline engine (plus tank, oil, etc) is a waste and therefore less efficient, but oh well... in my opinion its a great first step.

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Ahh yes, forgot about that, batterys LOVE the cold weather

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The batteries drive the car at temperatures above 15F. Below 15F, the Gasoline part takes over.

Ya know, for a bunch of people who would be considered "smart" by most people because of the high tech tools they use, the haters in this thread really seem to love to show off their ignorance.

Think about it. You shoot your load any time a new CPU or GPU hits the market, or anytime you find a new way of doing things that is faster and more efficient than the previous way, yet as soon as it comes to even considering an alternative to fossil fuels, the haters jump to trash it in a weak attempt to keep their love for dangerous, volatile, polluting, expensive and OLD fuel alive.

/sad.

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_Richard_

tesla has a 40k warranty or something mildly scary.. especially considering the technology we're talking about is something like 120 years old.

anyway, it's a fun ride, best of luck

dyna mo

according to wiki it's a hybrid:

The Chevrolet Volt is a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle manufactured by General Motors

georgeyw

The only sad part is, you traded in your Camaro for a Volt

Good luck with that.

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Gas or electric. No matter what - you live in Montreal...home to the worst drivers on the planet.

Enjoy the new car, though. Hope you like it.

L-Pink

Yea that's it. The fact you are bragging about trading a pretty cool car for a slow boring piece of shit has nothing to do with our comments. You know the resale value will be so low you'll have to torch it for insurance money when you get bored to death in a few months.

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