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ITraffic · 04-05-2014, 03:08 PM

churn and burn. the end.

CPA-Rush · 04-06-2014, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Our cam program tubecamgirl.com never provided whitelabels, but honestly is not because we forecasted that google will penalize WLs... we do this just for branding, like MFC don't provided WLs.

I am quite sure that having no WLs helped for a while, until months ago we enjoyed fist page rank #2 or #3 place for "free cam girls" type of searches, just under chaturbate and often upper than myfreecams, which makes no sense but we didn't complained.

However, recently for same searches we're at page 2 or even #3, so rank 10th-30th, and we did not changed anything on our end. That's maybe fair as we're not top #5 cam site in the world really, but let me comment on... why google have pushed up in top page some WLs as bongaxxx.com or bongasexcams.com , putting down original content cam sites with no WL's?

My guess it is, since "bongacams.com" it was the fastest growing domain in the cams scope recently, the algorithm associated the keyword cams with bonga, and so pushed up whatever domain with bonga in it. That's where machine learnin AI fails against human editing, now "bonga" is a sex cams keyword for google

For some reason, for 3 and 4 word searches there's less bonga WLs, so we're still in first page (barely) for "free girl cams" #9, "free web cam girls" #9:

http://www.google.com/ncr#hl=en&safe...oogle.com&fp=1
http://www.google.com/ncr#hl=en&safe...oogle.com&fp=1

I am not going to add "bonga" words in pages, of course, but SEO guys should take note.

based on your conclusion .. should i buy domain include bonga name ?

i have 2 wls pointed to bongacash - minus word "bonga" but they are really young to get any valuable traffic from google

on another domain some russian visitors come via yandex.ru i think i dont want them

beside mostly only come when they search for models names not keywords free cam , live chat etc, therefore that traffic not going to participate since the original cam is exist and probably seen it before

socialerts · 04-06-2014, 05:46 AM

We still didn't get any clear answer as to which cam affiliate got hit this time.
Last rounds were streamate and jasmin (which I don't think have recovered since)

So? Who is it this time?

adultmobile · 04-07-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by socialerts

We still didn't get any clear answer as to which cam affiliate got hit this time.
Last rounds were streamate and jasmin (which I don't think have recovered since)

So? Who is it this time?

Some whitelabels of streamate and jasmin still rank high for some keywords, and anyway each week things change, it is not easy to answer. Try several cam keywords and search for whitelabels in first page, that's the best way to know the truth.

magicmike · 04-07-2014, 10:00 AM

Got this notice Jan 24th for our white label so you were lucky you lasted so long.

xpimp · 04-07-2014, 10:41 AM

Yeah, know the feeling, launching a wl and in 2 months it has been hit by this google shit. In those 2 months, about 10k pages had the time to be indexed and now everything has stopped, as a matter of fact i see a bit of decrease of the old indexed pages. Bonga wl here...

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Originally Posted by magicmike

Got this notice Jan 24th for our white label so you were lucky you lasted so long.

socialerts · 04-08-2014, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Some whitelabels of streamate and jasmin still rank high for some keywords, and anyway each week things change, it is not easy to answer. Try several cam keywords and search for whitelabels in first page, that's the best way to know the truth.

True but people here in the thread said they personally received these messages on Google webmaster tools - don't see a reason why they wouldn't share which platform it was.

Also - anyone who did get these messages, did you use any blackhat techniques which might have raised the red flags for Google's algo?

xpimp · 04-08-2014, 05:07 AM

me, in any case no, i sincerely don t know what those black hat techniques are presuming

adultmobile · 04-08-2014, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xpimp

me, in any case no, i sincerely don t know what those black hat techniques are presuming

kasun0777 · 07-23-2014, 09:16 AM

I am facing this trouble too. I earned more than $30K with webcamwiz whitelabels.

I think google catched thousands of webcamwiz whitelabels. We need to change all web page contents. But we can't edit all pages in our whitelabels. Because models are updating automatically to all whitelabels. I think we need to unpublish temporary and send the request to google. After 2,3 week we can add again. Share your best solution please.

1215 · 07-23-2014, 09:44 AM

Thin...how about no content?

If too many people are posting the exact same white label things, it's a shock you guys don't get nailed for dupe content too.

Google needs to leave shit alone tho. They're well passed the point of annoying.

xpimp · 07-23-2014, 01:03 PM

i will report google to google for thin content - it hasn't any unique content, just scraps all day content from other sites

oppoten · 07-23-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

<--Kutz-->

Don't feed his ego. I think he probably reads GFY.

lezinterracial · 07-23-2014, 08:35 PM

Switch to Bing. Tell people they can earn gift cards from their searches. I got an Amazon gift card.

adultmobile · 07-24-2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lezinterracial

Switch to Bing. Tell people they can earn gift cards from their searches. I got an Amazon gift card.

I use bing often since some months, at times I open both bing and google to search certain stuff.

baddog · 07-24-2014, 08:44 PM

Yeah, switching to a different search engine is definitely the way to go; no one uses Google anyway.

anexsia · 07-24-2014, 09:43 PM

I don't really have any trouble with Google but I find that a lot of my visitors are coming from Bing more and more anyways

baddog · 07-24-2014, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

I don't really have any trouble with Google but I find that a lot of my visitors are coming from Bing more and more anyways

Well, if your site is flagged for thin content I think I understand why.

john1975 · 07-25-2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kasun0777

I am facing this trouble too. I earned more than $30K with webcamwiz whitelabels.

I think google catched thousands of webcamwiz whitelabels. We need to change all web page contents. But we can't edit all pages in our whitelabels. Because models are updating automatically to all whitelabels. I think we need to unpublish temporary and send the request to google. After 2,3 week we can add again. Share your best solution please.

hehe, just noticed my thread here bumped while searching whats goin on.

I've lost webcamwiz google keyword traffic lately as well...but haven't updated my front page with the new stuff they've been recommending the last few months yet. (additional stuff / descriptions added to distinguish our white label main page from others)

you recommend any paid keyword traffic for signups or no? i'm guessin u had decent organic google traffic.

Andreweb · 07-25-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by john1975

hehe, just noticed my thread here bumped while searching whats goin on.

I've lost webcamwiz google keyword traffic lately as well...but haven't updated my front page with the new stuff they've been recommending the last few months yet. (additional stuff / descriptions added to distinguish our white label main page from others)

you recommend any paid keyword traffic for signups or no? i'm guessin u had decent organic google traffic.

I updated my wls home page I added custom title and metadescription to more than 100 pages in english and over 50 in italian , I have a lots of blog post and all of this was useless my wl was fagged for thin content, the entire network was hited by google ! I'm wondering who's next ?

Denny · 07-25-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Andreweb

I'm wondering who's next ?

Are there currently any cam WLs that still rank on Google? I don't think so.

oppoten · 07-25-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Are there currently any cam WLs that still rank on Google? I don't think so.

Some of the big Streamate ones do, and some Chaturbate.

PornDiscounts-V · 07-25-2014, 11:50 AM

With the ability to create your own webcam site using XML feeds why use a white label?

Zeiss · 07-25-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

With the ability to create your own webcam site using XML feeds why use a white label?

cause of lazyness to write script or cause of having to pay hosting

usually that's why

Andreweb · 07-25-2014, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny

Are there currently any cam WLs that still rank on Google? I don't think so.

I have a WL which is doing pretty well right now but I am sure not for long time !

Klen · 07-25-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreweb

I have a WL which is doing pretty well right now but I am sure not for long time !

If i would have WL which still ranks good i would do following:
-analyst for what keywords i rank,and to which pages it goes
-download entire site locally
-convert local site to cms like wordpress or any other,,and upload it
-scramble descriptions,by auto replacing words with synonyms
-remove some of content to further reduce duplication ratio
-add new non related content to completely remove duplication ratio

Zeiss · 07-25-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

If i would have WL which still ranks good i would do following:
-download entire site locally

And how do you download the live stream?

Klen · 07-25-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeiss

And how do you download the live stream?

With some sort of hotlink

Zeiss · 07-25-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

With some sort of hotlink

Most programs with embed live chat option have their logo on it...

CPA-Rush · 07-25-2014, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeiss

Most programs with embed live chat option have their logo on it...

i use rtmpdump to grab streamed shows and there is no logo , but i think u mean something more tricky

Zeiss · 07-25-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rosx

i use rtmpdump to grab streamed shows and there is no logo , but i think u mean something more tricky

More tricky - yes. Just like the whitelabel but being able to modify anything anywhere, not just some text, meta, blog posts, etc, crap....... but to also have the live show and chat without any logos or anything....or without.. when clicking on it to to go the original site but to use the site itself for this.

VforVendetta · 07-25-2014, 02:54 PM

The next stop will be the API to develop 100% custom white label

CPA-Rush · 07-25-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeiss

More tricky - yes. Just like the whitelabel but being able to modify anything anywhere, not just some text, meta, blog posts, etc, crap....... but to also have the live show and chat without any logos or anything....or without.. when clicking on it to to go the original site but to use the site itself for this.

gotcha

, complete platform like http://2much.net but meant for seo purpose

maybe it will be more helpful if they let us host the site in our pc then we can change anything even when surfer online we redirect him to any room for more conversion

( but i guess in this case the broadband company is going to knock the door with crazy bills

Zeiss · 07-25-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VforVendetta

The next stop will be the API to develop 100% custom white label

Not really... You have to work a lot to NOT get thin content penalty. Thin content - the only way to get around and stick for long time - if you can remove the affiliate content and the site would make sense to exist and function without it.

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Originally Posted by rosx

gotcha

, complete platform like http://2much.net but meant for seo purpose

maybe it will be more helpful if they let us host the site in our pc then we can change anything even when surfer online we redirect him to any room for more conversion

( but i guess in this case the broadband company is going to knock the door with crazy bills

I have cloud servers with unmetered bandwidth, lots of IPs... so come and get me, bills...

CPA-Rush · 07-25-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeiss

Not really... You have to work a lot to NOT get thin content penalty. Thin content - the only way to get around and stick for long time - if you can remove the affiliate content and the site would make sense to exist and function without it.

I have cloud servers with unmetered bandwidth, lots of IPs... so come and get me, bills...

john1975 · 07-25-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rosx

gotcha

, complete platform like http://2much.net but meant for seo purpose

first time hearing of them...i'm guessing some of the current popular white label programs are already using it? (because of it's expensiveness and customization)

anybody else using? how much customization possible? I'd like to make my own custom something, kinda like chaturbate but with different layout.

also, I don't see a option under any of their plans, to allow other webmasters to sign up under them.

oppoten · 07-25-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by john1975

first time hearing of them...i'm guessing some of the current popular white label programs are already using it? (because of it's expensiveness and customization)

anybody else using? how much customization possible? I'd like to make my own custom something, kinda like chaturbate but with different layout.

also, I don't see a option under any of their plans, to allow other webmasters to sign up under them.

It's GFY user Mark Prince, he posts in many of the cam threads.

CPA-Rush · 07-25-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by john1975

first time hearing of them...i'm guessing some of the current popular white label programs are already using it? (because of it's expensiveness and customization)

anybody else using? how much customization possible? I'd like to make my own custom something, kinda like chaturbate but with different layout.

also, I don't see a option under any of their plans, to allow other webmasters to sign up under them.

i don’t know

, yes u can ask ********** because he the guy who promote that site

i used to edit this flat chaturbate layout but to see the changes u need extension installed on the client side

xpimp · 09-16-2014, 01:59 PM

For all of those that have their wl's hit, feel free to try out our new white label solution. I cannot guarantee you that over the time it will not get hit by the big G but start profiting right now till Google puts their eyes on them.

Others have started but it's still not late for many new people to join.

The website is not saturated so jump in fast to make a nice buck.

Also for the ones that can provide a good quantity of traffic, the wl can be made even sweeter

Still have questions? That's great! Feel free to reach me out on Skype or by email

Zeiss · 09-16-2014, 11:07 PM

xpimp, if you suggest this now, you are dooming the program (or actually whitelabel owners). Imagine all those already penalized domains having the same content as your original site... They will be hit sooner than you might even expect.

xpimp · 09-17-2014, 01:01 AM

I'm honest with the people, no false promises and, like i said before, the wl's can be made sweeter to prevent at max the big G slaps

Also suggestions etc. are welcomed from anybody.

Doesn't matter if an affiliate has just started in this industry or he is a veteran already, i will do everything in my power to help him out with what he needs.

RampantTV · 09-17-2014, 04:25 AM

Our Live Girls Widget can be added to any site this completely side steps the issue of thin content as you can create whatever content you like around it.

We also provide you with the tools you need to keep your site original based around the widget. We have profiles for the featured talent, videos of previous performances that can be obtained from our tube which is updated daily and the girls schedule is booked in advance so you can inform your traffic of when their favourite girl will be on as well as when new talent will be starting.

We're new so you won't see our player popping up here there and everywhere which means it's time to take advantage of this in it's early days and benefit from the conversions of an unsaturated product.

My details are in my signature if you would like to discuss further or better still I'll be in Amsterdam this weekend and London the following if you wanted to arrange a meet up

Barry-xlovecam · 09-17-2014, 06:44 AM

Cam white labels are often a misused promotional product. You do not own a cam site if you are using an affiliate tool. Stop trying to make a silk purse of a sow's ear ...

We have a very limited number of X-Clone websites available to select domain owners. These are content duplication of our main site's format and that is why few are available -- they do make money if they are excellent trafficked domains in the first place.

We have very extensive XML feeds and a cam video feed -- these are my development objectives/roadmap -- I would recommend learning how to program these feeds as they may include the broadcast of the cam streams on your domain with the finance and production handled by us in the future.

adultmobile · 09-17-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeiss

xpimp, if you suggest this now, you are dooming the program (or actually whitelabel owners). Imagine all those already penalized domains having the same content as your original site...

Good point, G may remember banned domains and take note where they switched pointing to...

xpimp · 09-17-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Good point, G may remember banned domains and take note where they switched pointing to...

of course it can remember if it wants to, there is always the known risk involved with any white label, at this moment in time everything is fine with each one so who wants to try it out, it is welcomed.

it is much better to be through the first ones who has a white label with a new cam program, the chances of surviving with a new one in G, is much higher over time. Plus the unsaturated factor in combination with lifetime revenue share can make wonders.

besides all of these, those who can provide good amounts of traffic, will benefit from a more custom one

DBS.US · 09-17-2014, 05:24 PM

Give up, it will never work

xxxjay · 09-18-2014, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by john1975

Is this a new thing google is doing to all live cam white labels....or was I just singled out and manually reported by some small dik fagget ? (that could of been jealous that my listing was higher than his in Google)

Basically it's a domain of mine hosted on a popular white label cam affiliate program...which has been popular and mainstream for awhile now.

This morning I got an email from google saying that site of mine has been labeled as spam with 'thin content'.

their giving me the option to notify them once more content has been added.

It's a white label....with thousands of pages / live webcams. The same site material that hundreds or thousands of other webmasters have. No other changes, and no additional content pages...just the live cam pages that were allowed to promote.

I am surprised this didn't happen sooner. in order to truly avoid the "same content" problem associated with whitelabel sites you would have to spend unique text for every single page on the site, rearrange the site structure, use different pictures than the ones from the original site and maybe, just maybe... Google won't come along and whack you... I am surprised that so many Cam sponsors don't provide the tools or webmasters customize their sites more

Zeiss · 09-18-2014, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I am surprised that so many Cam sponsors don't provide the tools or webmasters customize their sites more

Same...

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