iBill Response to Recent GFY Posts - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

jojojo · 07-11-2003, 05:17 PM

Picture this....

4 guys sitting around a computer right now reading this and saying...

"Ummm I think we fucked up again"

"Shut up Frank *thwap* - let me aim the bot this time"

"Go go go gadget reply bot"

"Oh shit the boss is coming..."

Everyone scatters out the boss's office...

"Hmmm crazy kids - were they messing around with my computer again? What is this gofuckyourself site on my pc? Hmmm"

Picks up phone...

"Hi Mary, can you get Zach in tech support to come here - there is a virus on my computer I think"

Click...

"ha ha gofuckyourself... nice name... I wonder what they do..."

The End

TheFLY · 07-11-2003, 05:17 PM

bling bling

TheFLY · 07-11-2003, 05:18 PM

Ok seriously, who's on first?

basschick · 07-11-2003, 05:39 PM

when we were working on a paysite a year ago, i talked to a sales rep at ibill. she told me that only sites making over $50,000 per month get their own rep. shit, ccbill gives you a rep at any size account, and at epoch, you sort of keep your sales rep.

then the sales person tried to get me to sell penis pills for one of their programs. i said we weren't interested and she sent me some spams.

neither of these two things seem to me like a good way to do business.

and i've certainly seen their stats down a lot more than the average bear, among many other problems.

VividLeslie · 07-11-2003, 05:55 PM

If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations?
Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring.
We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon,
so come help us Beta the new program.
To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected]

Veterans Day · 07-11-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie
If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations?
Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring.
We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon,
so come help us Beta the new program.
To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected]

tacky

thetrog · 07-11-2003, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day

tacky

Agreed.

SiMpLe · 07-11-2003, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thetrog

Agreed.

x2

quiet · 07-11-2003, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie
If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations?
Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring.
We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon,
so come help us Beta the new program.
To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected]

cool. emailing you now!

Veterans Day · 07-11-2003, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

cool. emailing you now!

TheJimmy · 07-11-2003, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23

I see your

and raise you

jojojo · 07-11-2003, 06:29 PM

This would have been better posted in the 'sponsors lowering payouts' thread.

Veterans Day · 07-11-2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
This would have been better posted in the 'sponsors lowering payouts' thread.

Ya think?

TheFLY · 07-11-2003, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie
If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations?
Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring.
We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon,
so come help us Beta the new program.
To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected]

Baby you have good timing -- almost too good.

You feel me?

imageman · 07-11-2003, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thetrog

They also said they had laid off several IBill employees, which is probably why people have been experiencing customer service issues.

I only mention this as a possible explanation about some of the problems that people have experienced with IBill.

I think you're dealing with a company that's not sure whether or not they want to be in the adult biz.

Wrong!!!!. Ibill have had these problems with their CMI and shitty customer service for at least the last 5 years that i have had accounts with them. It will never be Ibill decision to pull out of the adult business it will be ours the webmasters. Webmasters that work their fucking butts off to make Ibill their % only to get fucked over by them time and time again. Soon most webmasters will make the correct informed decision and leave this sinking ship . Epoch and CCbill are the only way forward and this has been proved to me many, many times by the simple fact that IBill doesn't give a flying fuck about you, they only care about their %.

Donnie Gangsta · 07-11-2003, 07:10 PM

hm.. the only thing I agree with is their reserve policy.

You pretty much never get your reserve back with Epoch... 18 months after your last transaction.. What a joke..

but anyway, all 3rd party processors are a fucking rip off once you're doing over $50,000 month gross (typical minimum to get yuor own)

TheGuyWhoKnows · 07-11-2003, 07:27 PM

Dont tell me Mr Cherry will take that matter in his own hands!!! damm we are safe now!!!!

scoreman · 07-11-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie
If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations?
Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring.
We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon,
so come help us Beta the new program.
To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected]

too funny

Pornkings · 07-11-2003, 07:41 PM

Leslie who is Vivid processing with now?

malakajoe · 07-11-2003, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iBill Communications
iBill Clients:

iBill would like to address the recent postings on the boards and share with you our position. We believe these posts are misleading and are designed to alarm our clients. Furthermore, we feel these comments and ?revised business rules? are the result of our competitor?s attempt to introduce a rather aggressive marketing program directed at our largest clients. At this time, iBill is working with our legal counsel to review the recent policies another billing provider has introduced into the competitive landscape to determine what, if any, actions iBill will pursue.

We believe that you should think through carefully and diligently any decision you make regarding your choice in billing providers. Your decision should be based on the billing provider?s past financial performance related to payouts, how they handle your reserves, and their future viability given the competitive marketplace. We would also urge you to consider the relationships the billing provider has with card associations, since they have been responsible for many of the recent changes in this industry. At iBill, we continue to maintain an excellent relationship with the card associations and have proactively worked with the associations in our clients? best interests.

As you know, we are part of a public company, which gives our clients access to audited financial information that allows you to understand our financial stability. We have a market cap of more than $200MM, and this provides a certain level of financial strength that many other billing providers cannot match. The recent action by one of our competitors might suggest they need more drastic methods of attracting customers.

iBill has earned a strong reputation for paying our clients and releasing our clients? reserves on time. We believe these are important considerations in your selection of a billing provider. If a competitor cannot make the same claim, you should carefully consider how much of your business you consider safe with them.

We are making considerable progress in managing our chargebacks. In fact, to date in July we are comfortably in compliance with the chargeback rules of Visa and MasterCard. We would therefore urge you to carefully evaluate a customer acquisition strategy that is based on the contention that iBill?s chargeback ?problem? has the potential to drag down an entire portfolio.

We plan to announce our solution to the MasterCard compliance program next week. Our solution will allow our customers to continue to enjoy the value of the MasterCard brand and its payment instruments and is the result of a very intensive effort of cooperative negotiating with MasterCard.

Thank you.

iBill

Pay on time? I have waited 5 months for my last reserve payment. I e-mail, get a response saying sorry...we will look into it..then nothing. Send another e-mail and same thing.

iBill used to be good on payments....now they suck.

DTK · 07-11-2003, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by imageman

Epoch and CCbill are the only way forward

Just curious what your (and everyone else's) opinion of jettis is??

tony286 · 07-11-2003, 09:04 PM

Ibill pays like clock work for us. Not the kings of customer service but payment has never been a problem from memberships to reserve always got it.

Centurion · 07-11-2003, 09:36 PM

"iBill has earned a strong reputation for paying our clients and releasing our clients? reserves on time. We believe these are important considerations in your selection of a billing provider. If a competitor cannot make the same claim, you should carefully consider how much of your business you consider safe with them. "

How can you say/type that with a straight face??

Brown Bear · 07-11-2003, 09:43 PM

IBill is such a dinosaur.

NETbilling · 07-11-2003, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ONS

Anyone looking for processing should stick with Epoch and CCBill anything else is like driving a Pinto.

Untrue and unfair statement.

While Epoch and CCbill are both great companies....
Don't judge us until you have tried us.

Mitch

SomeCreep · 07-12-2003, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
i love ibill

How do you know you wouldnt have made more with CCBill or another processor? Who knows how many signups you may have lost due to all of Ibill's recent network issues. All I hear over and over is how Ibill has horrible cc scrubbing and bad relations with everyone.

quiet · 07-12-2003, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep

How do you know you wouldnt have made more with CCBill or another processor? Who knows how many signups you may have lost due to all of Ibill's recent network issues. All I hear over and over is how Ibill has horrible cc scrubbing and bad relations with everyone.

i tested 2 different processors last year. much, much better initial signups with ibill (in my experience).

Calvinguy · 07-12-2003, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
when we were working on a paysite a year ago, i talked to a sales rep at ibill. she told me that only sites making over $50,000 per month get their own rep. shit, ccbill gives you a rep at any size account, and at epoch, you sort of keep your sales rep.

then the sales person tried to get me to sell penis pills for one of their programs. i said we weren't interested and she sent me some spams.

neither of these two things seem to me like a good way to do business.

and i've certainly seen their stats down a lot more than the average bear, among many other problems.

Yeah right....

John3 · 07-12-2003, 02:08 AM

who else misses Ibill Kathy?

Shoplifter · 07-12-2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i tested 2 different processors last year. much, much better initial signups with ibill (in my experience).

Yep.

ONS · 07-12-2003, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling

Untrue and unfair statement.

While Epoch and CCbill are both great companies....
Don't judge us until you have tried us.

Mitch

As i understand you are not a 3rd party payment provider so your not even in the same loop man.

AdultKing · 07-12-2003, 03:18 AM

For fucks sake iBill, you owe me thousands of dollars. Cathy Beardsley came on here promising to get things fixed for me. Many emails and 6 months later nothing has happened.

I'll yell from the rooftops to make sure nobody suffers the loss your company inflicted on me.

andi_germany · 07-12-2003, 03:55 AM

It seems obvious to me how good IBills reputation is after reading this post

That said it only leaves me with

<font size=7>FUCK IBILL</font>

ohh and pay me my money you thieves

HardProfits · 07-12-2003, 04:09 AM

again everyone

there are enough people in the world who would like nothing more than to see us all fucked up and bankrupt

so keep hitting the IPSP's boys and girls. your are just digging your own grave

why cant you think about what we can do, as opposed to bitching about the past?

note - our business model is under attack!

thetrog · 07-12-2003, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imageman

Wrong!!!!. Ibill have had these problems with their CMI and shitty customer service for at least the last 5 years that i have had accounts with them.

I wasn't trying to defend IBill.

Just share some of the information I learned from the conference call.

The only advantage I see in using IBill is that they are probably the only processor with deep enough pockets to survive with Visa/MC crisis, if it continues to get worse and cost processors a lot of money.

But, in light of the other problems, that may not be much of an advantage.

funkmaster · 07-12-2003, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie
If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations?
Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring.
We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon,
so come help us Beta the new program.
To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected]

... can you read: fuck off !!

funkmaster · 07-12-2003, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andi_germany
It seems obvious to me how good IBills reputation is after reading this post

That said it only leaves me with

<font size=7>FUCK IBILL</font>

ohh and pay me my money you thieves

... that´s not true, ibill rocks, they are for sure the industrie leaders. here are the five major points why you should choose ibill:

#1: account setup is done in less than 6 month.
#2: email support requests get answered within 3 month.
#3: you can speak to a sales rep by phone. (after less than 160 unsucessfull call attempts)
#4: loyal ibilll emloyees will sell the members email database to almost everyone.
#5: ibill does not scub, because the system is offline most of the time.

Validus · 07-12-2003, 05:56 AM

Will I-Bill get an x-box???

Loch · 07-12-2003, 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... that´s not true, ibill rocks, they are for sure the industrie leaders. here are the five major points why you should choose ibill:

#1: account setup is done in less than 6 month.
#2: email support requests get answered within 3 month.
#3: you can speak to a sales rep by phone. (after less than 160 unsucessfull call attempts)
#4: loyal ibilll emloyees will sell the members email database to almost everyone.
#5: ibill does not scub, because the system is offline most of the time.

WELL FUCK A GOAT IM HEADING OVER THERE TO SIGNUP RIGHT NOW THEN

funkmaster · 07-12-2003, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loch

WELL FUCK A GOAT IM HEADING OVER THERE TO SIGNUP RIGHT NOW THEN

... I see you are a wise business man, you won´t regret it !!

PerfectionGirls · 07-12-2003, 01:10 PM

Crazy and amazing post!

Sticking wiht CCbill... allthough I think the level ov service has dropped at CCbill in the Tech area, they still are the most stable of the bunch. We had considered Epoch very seriously, but with the recent events I don't see them as a long term players either. While they may be a good company I think they have built there house on sand. With the new Visa regs.... I think the tide is about to wash the sand out from under Epochs house.

Sticking with CBill... but god dammit guys..... Hire some techs that have a clue would ya?

Both on the ccbill and cavecreek side... as much as your BW is... you should have Einstein working there.

SunTzu · 07-12-2003, 02:40 PM

I was expecting more of a "oh yeah? Well WE won't be processing for any clients that deal with Epoch either! nah nah nah nah nah"

KidCock · 07-12-2003, 02:46 PM

Checkout my thread if anyone here is interested in a non-3rd party solution that isn't a nightmare to setup/manage.

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=152191

junction · 07-12-2003, 04:10 PM

Quote:

iBill has earned a strong reputation for paying our clients and releasing our clients? reserves on time. We believe these are important considerations in your selection of a billing provider. If a competitor cannot make the same claim, you should carefully consider how much of your business you consider safe with them.

I want to know who these clients are! I am not one of them! You fucking theives still have my money! If ibill paid everyone they owed money to, there would be no more ibill.

javok · 07-12-2003, 04:36 PM

I MUST say that Ibill always send me the check on time, thanks Ibill for that!

Ludedude · 07-12-2003, 04:43 PM

An iBill rep was on the news today and had this to say:
http://www.theinformationminister.co...p?ID=612314564

SpaceAce · 07-12-2003, 05:40 PM

So, it's some competitor's fault that signups disappear, the CMI is up and down like a seesaw, web900 money doesn't get paid out when there's a wrinkle on your end, people got double and triple billed for the Visa fee, checks don't get sent, wires don't go through, reserves never make it to webmasters and about 10,000 other problems people have had with IBill in the last year?

SpaceAce

Xplicit · 07-12-2003, 06:12 PM

That'll teach ibill to post here

07-11-2003, 05:17 PM	#51
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	Picture this.... 4 guys sitting around a computer right now reading this and saying... "Ummm I think we fucked up again" "Shut up Frank thwap - let me aim the bot this time" "Go go go gadget reply bot" "Oh shit the boss is coming..." Everyone scatters out the boss's office... "Hmmm crazy kids - were they messing around with my computer again? What is this gofuckyourself site on my pc? Hmmm" Picks up phone... "Hi Mary, can you get Zach in tech support to come here - there is a virus on my computer I think" Click... "ha ha gofuckyourself... nice name... I wonder what they do..." The End __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

07-11-2003, 05:18 PM	#53
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Ok seriously, who's on first? Last edited by TheFLY; 07-11-2003 at 05:23 PM..

07-11-2003, 05:55 PM	#55
VividLeslie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 500	If you are worried about a loss of revenue due to the new Visa US Regulations? Vividcash is not only launching but if you sign up now, we'll increase your payouts to $35 per trial join and 60% recurring. We're increasing our payouts, while everyone else is going down. We're not going to be cutting back anytime soon, so come help us Beta the new program. To sign up, please send me an email at [email protected] __________________ Leslie Sharp www.VividCash.com

07-11-2003, 06:29 PM	#62
jojojo Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 2,318	This would have been better posted in the 'sponsors lowering payouts' thread. __________________ Learn SEO - make $$ residually - icq me 333485092

07-11-2003, 07:41 PM	#69
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	Leslie who is Vivid processing with now? __________________ Pornkings.com

07-11-2003, 05:39 PM	#54
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	when we were working on a paysite a year ago, i talked to a sales rep at ibill. she told me that only sites making over $50,000 per month get their own rep. shit, ccbill gives you a rep at any size account, and at epoch, you sort of keep your sales rep. then the sales person tried to get me to sell penis pills for one of their programs. i said we weren't interested and she sent me some spams. neither of these two things seem to me like a good way to do business. and i've certainly seen their stats down a lot more than the average bear, among many other problems.

07-11-2003, 07:10 PM	#66
Donnie Gangsta Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,104	hm.. the only thing I agree with is their reserve policy. You pretty much never get your reserve back with Epoch... 18 months after your last transaction.. What a joke.. but anyway, all 3rd party processors are a fucking rip off once you're doing over $50,000 month gross (typical minimum to get yuor own)

07-11-2003, 07:27 PM	#67
TheGuyWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Quebec city, Canada Posts: 160	Dont tell me Mr Cherry will take that matter in his own hands!!! damm we are safe now!!!!

07-11-2003, 09:04 PM	#72
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Ibill pays like clock work for us. Not the kings of customer service but payment has never been a problem from memberships to reserve always got it.

07-11-2003, 09:36 PM	#73
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	"iBill has earned a strong reputation for paying our clients and releasing our clients? reserves on time. We believe these are important considerations in your selection of a billing provider. If a competitor cannot make the same claim, you should carefully consider how much of your business you consider safe with them. " How can you say/type that with a straight face??

07-11-2003, 09:43 PM	#74
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	IBill is such a dinosaur. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

07-12-2003, 02:08 AM	#79
John3 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,214	who else misses Ibill Kathy? __________________ Hook 'em.

07-12-2003, 03:18 AM	#82
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	For fucks sake iBill, you owe me thousands of dollars. Cathy Beardsley came on here promising to get things fixed for me. Many emails and 6 months later nothing has happened. I'll yell from the rooftops to make sure nobody suffers the loss your company inflicted on me.

07-12-2003, 03:55 AM	#83
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	It seems obvious to me how good IBills reputation is after reading this post That said it only leaves me with <font size=7>FUCK IBILL</font> ohh and pay me my money you thieves __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

07-12-2003, 04:09 AM	#84
HardProfits So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BrizVegas Posts: 346	again everyone there are enough people in the world who would like nothing more than to see us all fucked up and bankrupt so keep hitting the IPSP's boys and girls. your are just digging your own grave why cant you think about what we can do, as opposed to bitching about the past? note - our business model is under attack!

07-12-2003, 05:56 AM	#88
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	Will I-Bill get an x-box???

07-12-2003, 01:10 PM	#91
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Crazy and amazing post! Sticking wiht CCbill... allthough I think the level ov service has dropped at CCbill in the Tech area, they still are the most stable of the bunch. We had considered Epoch very seriously, but with the recent events I don't see them as a long term players either. While they may be a good company I think they have built there house on sand. With the new Visa regs.... I think the tide is about to wash the sand out from under Epochs house. Sticking with CBill... but god dammit guys..... Hire some techs that have a clue would ya? Both on the ccbill and cavecreek side... as much as your BW is... you should have Einstein working there. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

07-12-2003, 02:40 PM	#92
SunTzu Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: the box Posts: 456	I was expecting more of a "oh yeah? Well WE won't be processing for any clients that deal with Epoch either! nah nah nah nah nah"

07-12-2003, 02:46 PM	#93
KidCock So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Pedro, Costa Rica Posts: 788	Checkout my thread if anyone here is interested in a non-3rd party solution that isn't a nightmare to setup/manage. http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=152191

07-12-2003, 04:36 PM	#95
javok Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Posts: 707	I MUST say that Ibill always send me the check on time, thanks Ibill for that!

07-12-2003, 04:43 PM	#96
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	An iBill rep was on the news today and had this to say: http://www.theinformationminister.co...p?ID=612314564 __________________

07-12-2003, 05:40 PM	#97
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	So, it's some competitor's fault that signups disappear, the CMI is up and down like a seesaw, web900 money doesn't get paid out when there's a wrinkle on your end, people got double and triple billed for the Visa fee, checks don't get sent, wires don't go through, reserves never make it to webmasters and about 10,000 other problems people have had with IBill in the last year? SpaceAce

07-12-2003, 06:12 PM	#98
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	That'll teach ibill to post here