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klinton 03-03-2014 02:52 AM

go Russia ! :-P and do it without single shot and casualties

Cherry7 03-03-2014 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20002397)
not if you: have job, yet can't buy anything as there (almost) no products on the market
at that was how the situation looked from 1978 :1orglaugh
so i would say: it was different, it wasnt genocide,they build roads, gave education & medcare, but now is better :P a lot of possibilities and choices

Is it beyond the wit of man to control economics so that everyone has a home and a job in the place they live?

Yes the system failed, it was fighting the hostility of the West, but also it failed because the people did not support the system. They thought that they could work the same way and get a car and colour TV. Radio Free Europe told them so.

They were in for a rude surprise. As are the people of the Ukraine.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 03:40 AM

http://img9.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/...0-1068269.jpeg

klinton 03-03-2014 03:41 AM

nah man, trust me... you wont lure me into communism/ socialism :1orglaugh
it is sexy and cool to wear che guevara tshirt only if you are from rich west country....
if you are from country that experienced communism, the talk /discurs is different...much different
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20002400)
Is it beyond the wit of man to control economics so that everyone has a home and a job in the place they live?

Yes the system failed, it was fighting the hostility of the West, but also it failed because the people did not support the system. They thought that they could work the same way and get a car and colour TV. Radio Free Europe told them so.

They were in for a rude surprise. As are the people of the Ukraine.


ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 04:11 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TK4sKrHb39...livye-ludi.jpg

winter_ 03-03-2014 06:14 AM

yeah power to the people, ukrainian's aren't going to put up with it anymore, the way their country is being run! this is the chick who there is a high likelihood of becoming the new president.

yulia tushyenko.

Kolargol 03-03-2014 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20002373)
The Russians liberated Eastern Europe, they did not plan to invade Eastern Europe it was a result of the nazi attack on them.

Ever heard of Ribbentrop-Molotov or this amazing free education was futile?

Rochard 03-03-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002258)
First, the US were doing business with the talibans ( you need pic to be posted again ?)

And? We were friends with Saddam Hussein at one point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002258)
Secondly, the talibans were not supporting al-quaeda ... ( let's say they were, don't you

They weren't? They allowed Osama bin Laden and his terrorist group in the country when no one else would. And when they wouldn't turn over Osama, well, they got invaded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002258)
I would think that the bombs were landing on afghanis , no ...?

I don't know, do you? Afghanistan doesn't have many large cities and combat operations don't take place near population centers.

directfiesta 03-03-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by winter_ (Post 20002517)
yeah power to the people, ukrainian's aren't going to put up with it anymore, the way their country is being run! this is the chick who there is a high likelihood of becoming the new president.



yulia tushyenko.

The return of the gas princess .....:disgust

directfiesta 03-03-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20002635)
And? We were friends with Saddam Hussein at one point.



They weren't? They allowed Osama bin Laden and his terrorist group in the country when no one else would. And when they wouldn't turn over Osama, well, they got invaded.



I don't know, do you? Afghanistan doesn't have many large cities and combat operations don't take place near population centers.

http://www.mapreport.com/years/2001/...ies/kabul.html

The United States has carried out a seventh night of air strikes on Afghanistan after Pentagon officials admitted a targeting mistake led to a bomb being dropped on a residential area of the capital, Kabul.

-----------

I always forget thsat the USA does surgical bombings ... no casualties ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Meanwhile, you guys are all upset about Russia protecting its people in a small part of Ukraine ...

Manfap 03-03-2014 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winter_ (Post 20002517)
yeah power to the people, ukrainian's aren't going to put up with it anymore, the way their country is being run! this is the chick who there is a high likelihood of becoming the new president.



yulia tushyenko.

She is as corrupt as the last one.
Her image is pure PR, which the people lap up.

klinton 03-03-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by winter_ (Post 20002517)
yulia tushyenko.

how about Julia Tymoshenko ?

femdomdestiny 03-03-2014 08:56 AM

sounds better

Sid70 03-03-2014 09:10 AM


Rochard 03-03-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002676)
http://www.mapreport.com/years/2001/...ies/kabul.html

The United States has carried out a seventh night of air strikes on Afghanistan after Pentagon officials admitted a targeting mistake led to a bomb being dropped on a residential area of the capital, Kabul.

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I always forget thsat the USA does surgical bombings ... no casualties ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Meanwhile, you guys are all upset about Russia protecting its people in a small part of Ukraine ...

Dude, seriously?

Yes, in 2001 when we removed the Taliban from government we did in fact bomb major cities. For the most part, it was surgical strikes. But the truth is no matter how many "smart bombs" are dropped, mistakes are made and shit happens.

This is very simple. Country "A" says "give us X or else" and country "B" says "no, fuck off". Country "B", it's government, and the people that put that government in place then suffer the consequences. Yes, innocent people will get killed.

It's not like the US invaded Afghanistan for no reason. We had a valid reason to go in, period.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 10:10 AM

Sid, што ты тут интеллигентных евреев постишь? давай побрутальнее чаво, яроша например







почему на красно-белом флаге надпись по-английски? Чтобы американским налогоплательщикам удобнее читать было?

Sid70 03-03-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggiziggicrew (Post 20002838)
sid, што ты тут интеллигентных евреев постишь?

Да вы там на брутальном йобнулись, бандицкай пидарсбург.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 10:22 AM

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will travel to Kiev to meet with Ukrainian leaders tomorrow to offer support as Russian troops occupy the nation?s Crimea region, U.S. officials said yesterday
спижжено отсюда
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...r-ukraine.html

Modern Ukranian Leader :thumbsup
http://s020.radikal.ru/i722/1312/e5/14d22165cacd.jpg

directfiesta 03-03-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20002798)
Dude, seriously?

Yes, in 2001 when we removed the Taliban from government we did in fact bomb major cities. For the most part, it was surgical strikes. But the truth is no matter how many "smart bombs" are dropped, mistakes are made and shit happens.

This is very simple. Country "A" says "give us X or else" and country "B" says "no, fuck off". Country "B", it's government, and the people that put that government in place then suffer the consequences. Yes, innocent people will get killed.

It's not like the US invaded Afghanistan for no reason. We had a valid reason to go in, period.

Seroiously ... read the link . Bush said fuck off ... because he awnted war ... to be a war president, after his miserable failure to protect the USA .
3 years BEFORE 9/11, Afghans were trying to get rid of Osama ...
I will not repost the link, as your opinion has already been shaped by your gov's propaganda.

...

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sid70 (Post 20002848)
Да вы там на брутальном йобнулись, бандицкай пидарсбург.

еще раз - почему на флаге правого сектора надпись по-английски?

Sid70 03-03-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggiziggicrew (Post 20002868)
еще раз - почему на флаге правого сектора надпись по-английски?

Не знаю что там русские нафотошопили, да мне как-то пох, я не в правом секторе. А если там что и правдв написано, видать хотели, чтобы было ясно всем. У них спроси.

Sid70 03-03-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ziggiziggicrew (Post 20002865)
u.s. Secretary of state john kerry will travel to kiev to meet with ukrainian leaders tomorrow to offer support as russian troops occupy the nation’s crimea region, u.s. Officials said yesterday
спижжено отсюда
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...r-ukraine.html

modern ukrainian leader :thumbsup
http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/st...ssia27214e.jpg

Я поправлю.

sperbonzo 03-03-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20002400)
Is it beyond the wit of man to control economics so that everyone has a home and a job in the place they live?

.

Don't let the actual history of how every centrally controlled economy ended up, allow you to give up your dream of a totalitarian utopia.....






:Oh crap




.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-03-2014 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20002711)
how about Julia Tymoshenko ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20002714)
sounds better

http://s019.radikal.ru/i620/1210/b5/899dcd7b5287.jpg

Mutt 03-03-2014 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002866)
Seroiously ... read the link . Bush said fuck off ... because he awnted war ... to be a war president, after his miserable failure to protect the USA .
3 years BEFORE 9/11, Afghans were trying to get rid of Osama ...
I will not repost the link, as your opinion has already been shaped by your gov's propaganda.

...

You're such a dumb America hating hypocritical shit.

This is who the Taliban are but of course you're only concerned with the United States holding them to a standard that is impossible in the real world to maintain.

According to the United Nations, the Taliban and their allies were responsible for 75% of Afghan civilian casualties in 2010, 80% in 2011, and 80% in 2012.

The Taliban and their allies committed massacres against Afghan civilivians,denied UN food supplies to 160,000 starving civilians and conducted a policy of scorched earth, burning vast areas of fertile land and destroying tens of thousands of homes during their rule from 1996 to 2001

theking 03-03-2014 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002866)
Seroiously ... read the link . Bush said fuck off ... because he awnted war ... to be a war president, after his miserable failure to protect the USA .
3 years BEFORE 9/11, Afghans were trying to get rid of Osama ...
I will not repost the link, as your opinion has already been shaped by your gov's propaganda.

...

You are an ignorant motherfucker...now aren't you?

Sid70 03-03-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20002891)

http://img.nr2.ru/pict/arts1/37/33/373359.jpg

Cherry7 03-03-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20002887)
Don't let the actual history of how every centrally controlled economy ended up, allow you to give up your dream of a totalitarian utopia.....
:Oh crap
.


Are you talking about the USA during the war?

All countries control their economies when the life of the nation depends on it.

As the history you believe is written by believers in the dictatorship of the rich I don't expect you to be able to see the positive aspects of State control. The ability of nations to develop their economy in the face of hostile powers.

Have the Ukrainians been informed that their nations industries will be smashed, there will be mass unemployment and if they want work vast numbers will have to leave the country?

The working class in the west will be faced with even more pressure on their wages....

winter_ 03-03-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20002689)
She is as corrupt as the last one.
Her image is pure PR, which the people lap up.

her face is still one i wouldn't mind seeing on those dictorial billboards they have erected in many of those dictatorships around that part of the world. maybe there will even be nude portraits, i can't wait! :1orglaugh

stalin did it, mao did it, they taught their people to idolise them.

klinton 03-03-2014 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20002935)


:1orglaugh

directfiesta 03-03-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20002902)
You are an ignorant motherfucker...now aren't you?

sure am ..... lol ...

Quote:

Thursday, 20 September, 2001, 21:05 GMT 22:05 UK

The resolution on Bin Laden, agreed at a meeting in Kabul, appeared to represent a compromise.

It followed US demands for him to be handed over, and a statement by the ruling Taleban's spiritual leader that he would not be extradited.

But White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the resolution was not enough to satisfy the Bush administration.

"It does not meet America's requirements," he told reporters. "This is about much more than one man being allowed to leave voluntarily, presumably from one safe harbour to another safe harbour.


PS: gpo back in the woods ... and don't forget your cell :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

directfiesta 03-03-2014 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20002901)
You're such a dumb America hating hypocritical shit.

This is who the Taliban are but of course you're only concerned with the United States holding them to a standard that is impossible in the real world to maintain.

According to the United Nations, the Taliban and their allies were responsible for 75% of Afghan civilian casualties in 2010, 80% in 2011, and 80% in 2012.

The Taliban and their allies committed massacres against Afghan civilivians,denied UN food supplies to 160,000 starving civilians and conducted a policy of scorched earth, burning vast areas of fertile land and destroying tens of thousands of homes during their rule from 1996 to 2001

Sure ..... If you did not support Afghan invasion, you were hating America
Sure ...If you did not support Iraq invasion, you were hating America ...

Comes to Bush : You are either with us ... or with the terrorists .... How simplistic ....

PS: quote was not for 2010 or 2011 or 2012 ... but for 2001 and BEFORE ...

Now, go on hating Russia for protecting their ethnicity :2 cents:

Rochard 03-03-2014 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20002866)
Seroiously ... read the link . Bush said fuck off ... because he awnted war ... to be a war president, after his miserable failure to protect the USA .
3 years BEFORE 9/11, Afghans were trying to get rid of Osama ...
I will not repost the link, as your opinion has already been shaped by your gov's propaganda.

...

You posted a link to a website I've never heard of... "If it's on the internet it must be true'.

pornmasta 03-03-2014 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20003272)
for protecting their ethnicity :2 cents:


http://www.germaniainternational.com...nland_lg_1.jpg

ethnicity!

Cherry7 03-03-2014 04:19 PM

The idea that Nationalism will solve the problems facing so many countries is the illusion.

It stokes up hatred of neighbours and minorities with the illusion of some golden past.

At a time when the economy and financial control is world wide and based in few hands.

It diverts attention from the growing social inequalities between classes and countries.

The illusion of independence when maybe only 3 or 4 countries are in anyway really independent, the USA, China Russia, and North Korea...

The real need is to build solidarity between working people of different countries to build societies worth living in.

mineistaken 03-03-2014 04:51 PM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1134948 "saving Russians from Ukraine" propaganda exposed

theking 03-03-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20003266)
sure am ..... lol ...



PS: gpo back in the woods ... and don't forget your cell :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

There just is not any end to your ignorance and your copy and past pig shit only proves it.

Rochard 03-03-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20003272)
If you did not support Iraq invasion, you were hating America ...

Not at all. There was a lot of discussion about it before it went down and as it was happening, and a lot of fall out afterwards.

just a punk 03-03-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sid70 (Post 20002881)
Я поправлю.

Это не новый. Это старый. Был он уже в правительстве Украины. Кстати, много ли у него сторонников среди майдановцев?

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-04-2014 02:41 AM

рукопожато и неполживо! :thumbsup



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