:1orglaugh:winkwink:

Funny thing is, Ukraine is situated perfectly to profit from both the EU and Russia. And set themselves up as a natural go-between for the two. AND provide Russia with trade access through Sevastopol via lease and trade agreements. Of course that would require that everyone over there shut the hell up and quit chirping at each other through the media, then sit down and actually hammer (and sickle) out a win-win-win scenario for everyone -- Ukrain, EU, Russia.


But what do I know, I'm just a dopey redneck Canadian living on the prairies where it's -40C today and who happens to like vodka but am all out. :(

and why is that ? :error

Слава means glory and mexican aren't glorious ... and they eat beans :p

So it was the Americans? The whole area was just one great lovein until the US said no stop that, everyone start killing eachother.

They have been living there since 1991, dafuk are you talking about?

Doku Umarov is a Chechen terrorist (hope the guys here still remember the Boston bombing). We have a good saying about that: "Tell me who's your friend and I'll tell who you are" :2 cents:

Don't go that hard on yourself, but what you have just suggested is acceptable in a civilized world only.

in ukraine or in this place where they are ?

http://i.imgur.com/NKZan20.jpg

So much cherry-picked info to suit agendas here, distorted contexts, etc, on both Ukraine, former Yugoslavia, etc, now we're even talking shit about Mexico! Not even worth responding to it, some of you guys are obviously nationalists and proud of your countries but I think you're missing the greater point:

It's bad to invade a sovereign country - I don't care of you're Russia, the USA, or fucking Djbouti - and anyone who uses the excuse "well, the majority of the citizens in such-and-such area are majority our culture" is just making a pathetically flimsy justification for powermongering and domination. End of fucking story. If you're in favor of it, welp, I dunno what to tell ya...

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Putin just recently accepted Yanukovich under his cover, one con-artist to another.
So guess that does make you look like? Right, a con-fucking-artist.

You know, there are those that can read/watch both English and Russian/Ukrainian sources. And there are those that can read/watch English sources only (you're one of them) :2 cents:

Me??? I don't give a shit about both Putin and your Yanukovich. So it's not a my problem.

and how spontaneous is what happened on the Maidan square ?

На здоровье!

Oh, I've no doubt that the West supported that in one way or another. How much they were able to is questionable. And on the other side you've got Russia jockeying for influence too, much of it's a matter of public record. There was a lot of push/pull with Ukraine in the middle.

But deploying troops on another country's sovereign territory is another issue entirely.

Wrong. Putin's shadow covered all the Russians now. You've been compromised.

This is going to show up how useless the UN is - How are they going to deal with a country that has a veto?..

Also, I just heard that Russia is going to treat the current government as war criminals.....

Its interesting watching RT then switching to the BBC...

After ukraine decided to remove russian as official langage, a part of the country could feel oppressed since they speak more russian as ukrainian (and they don't seem to attack this russian army)
So since, you can establish that some leaders of european countries pushed the revolution in order to reduce the russian influence, i find what happens predictable... It's just my opinion.

no kidding ?
Ok, let me guess: now you want to push a revolution in russia...
of course, people have to accept this kind of revolution promoted by puppets...

Ой боюс боюс! :1orglaugh

I want Russia to step back from our ground.

welp - this thread proves my point, Europe never leaves its fucked up history and grudges behind and eventually will bring the world to war again. Pretty much the Middle East with better food and better looking women.

you mean ukraine or Crimea :p ?

Check the dictionary. It's not a threat. It's a new reality for you that just started.

Crimea is a part of Ukraine. So, yes, get the fuck out of the country.

i wonder what people of crimea think about your statement

What if I told you I am from the East, and I have brothers and aunts living there? Dafuk you know, to question me here?

i think that you are not an election

I saw a few interviews with Russian speaking Crimean's earlier and they really don't seem to want this at all - They just want to get on with their lives as Russian speaking Ukrainians - Seems sensible to me...

french tvs show the opposite and they are not for russia

Украинский иммигрантишка в Польше только что раскрыл мне глаза, сейчас я еще больше боюс боюс :1orglaugh

Youtube has answers to all your questions.

Simferopol (Crimea):



Kerch (Crimea):



Harkiv (not Crimea but East of Ukraine):



Lugansk (not Crimea but East of Ukraine):



Donetsk (not Crimea but East of Ukraine):



etс...

I believe these videos speak better than some pathetic emigrant, who don't live in Ukraine anymore (he's in Poland now) :2 cents:

seriously the best solution is a referendum

Yes of course. I also think so (I don't want a war there and especially I don't want Russian troops to be involved). The Crimea referendum is scheduled on March 30. Let's see that Crimea people decide.

hmm so this is what it is planned... well good

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...#axzz2ukGsPMJE

Good post really.

It's not like the United States hasn't done this before.

I agree, but this wouldn't solve the problem. The Crimea can hold a vote today and leave Ukraine, but the President of Ukraine would still be removed from office and he would still be hiding in Russia.