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pornmasta 03-01-2014 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20000590)
What if I told you I am from the East, and I have brothers and aunts living there? Dafuk you know, to question me here?

i think that you are not an election

EddyTheDog 03-01-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20000589)
i wonder what people of crimea think about your statement


I saw a few interviews with Russian speaking Crimean's earlier and they really don't seem to want this at all - They just want to get on with their lives as Russian speaking Ukrainians - Seems sensible to me...

pornmasta 03-01-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20000595)
I saw a few interviews with Russian speaking Crimean's earlier and they really don't seem to want this at all - They just want to get on with their lives as Russian speaking Ukrainians - Seems sensible to me...

french tvs show the opposite and they are not for russia

just a punk 03-01-2014 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20000587)
Check the dictionary. It's not a threat. It's a new reality for you that just started.

Украинский иммигрантишка в Польше только что раскрыл мне глаза, сейчас я еще больше боюс боюс :1orglaugh

just a punk 03-01-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20000589)
i wonder what people of crimea think about your statement

Youtube has answers to all your questions.

Simferopol (Crimea):



Kerch (Crimea):



Harkiv (not Crimea but East of Ukraine):



Lugansk (not Crimea but East of Ukraine):



Donetsk (not Crimea but East of Ukraine):



etс...

I believe these videos speak better than some pathetic emigrant, who don't live in Ukraine anymore (he's in Poland now) :2 cents:

pornmasta 03-01-2014 01:17 PM

seriously the best solution is a referendum

just a punk 03-01-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20000625)
seriously the best solution is a referendum

Yes of course. I also think so (I don't want a war there and especially I don't want Russian troops to be involved). The Crimea referendum is scheduled on March 30. Let's see that Crimea people decide.

pornmasta 03-01-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20000626)
Yes of course. I also think so (I don't want a war there and especially I don't want Russian troops to be involved). The Crimea referendum is scheduled on March 30. Let's see that Crimea people decide.

hmm so this is what it is planned... well good

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...#axzz2ukGsPMJE

Rochard 03-01-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20000543)
So much cherry-picked info to suit agendas here, distorted contexts, etc, on both Ukraine, former Yugoslavia, etc, now we're even talking shit about Mexico! Not even worth responding to it, some of you guys are obviously nationalists and proud of your countries but I think you're missing the greater point:

It's bad to invade a sovereign country - I don't care of you're Russia, the USA, or fucking Djbouti - and anyone who uses the excuse "well, the majority of the citizens in such-and-such area are majority our culture" is just making a pathetically flimsy justification for powermongering and domination. End of fucking story. If you're in favor of it, welp, I dunno what to tell ya...

Good post really.

It's not like the United States hasn't done this before.

Rochard 03-01-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20000625)
seriously the best solution is a referendum

I agree, but this wouldn't solve the problem. The Crimea can hold a vote today and leave Ukraine, but the President of Ukraine would still be removed from office and he would still be hiding in Russia.

just a punk 03-01-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20000662)
I agree, but this wouldn't solve the problem. The Crimea can hold a vote today and leave Ukraine, but the President of Ukraine would still be removed from office and he would still be hiding in Russia.

FYI: It's 2nd time he was removed. Before him they have removed Kuchma. So there were 3 "removals" during the whole 22 year existence of the independent Ukraine. These guys are not used to work, revolution is their way to the bright future :2 cents:

EddyTheDog 03-01-2014 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20000668)
FYI: It's 2nd time he was removed. Before him they have removed Kuchma. So there were 3 "removals" during the whole 22 year existence of the independent Ukraine. These guys are not used to work, revolution is their way to the bright future :2 cents:

Russia has declared that the current Ukraine government are war criminals - They plan to arrest them...

This is going to go way beyond the Crimea.....

pornmasta 03-01-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20000672)
Russia has declared that the current Ukraine government are war criminals - They plan to arrest them...

This is going to go way beyond the Crimea.....

They are fighting for the russian world order ?
(like the US with the International Criminal Court ?)

EddyTheDog 03-01-2014 02:28 PM

I am all for the EddyTheDog world order - That's probably not going to happen though - I prefer the American version if I have to choose - Russians are crazy in a bad way...

pornmasta 03-01-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20000680)
I am all for the EddyTheDog world order - That's probably not going to happen though - I prefer the American version if I have to choose - Russians are crazy in a bad way...

honnestly i think that we are more and more in a dictatorship too. (at least that's my opinion)

Kolargol 03-01-2014 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20000626)
Yes of course. I also think so (I don't want a war there and especially I don't want Russian troops to be involved). The Crimea referendum is scheduled on March 30. Let's see that Crimea people decide.

Why dont you do the same referendum in Chechnya?

mineistaken 03-01-2014 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20000712)
Why dont you do the same referendum in Chechnya?

Nice back flip :thumbsup

pornmasta 03-01-2014 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20000719)
Nice back flip :thumbsup

there is problem of terrorism: you know they attack the russian territory and they set up the charia so russian has to find their leaders to kill them using drones :p

just a punk 03-02-2014 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20000712)
Why dont you do the same referendum in Chechnya?

I can't do a referendum. Only Chechen people can do that and they did it in 2003:

http://www.wsws.org/ru/2003/mar2003/refe-m27.shtml
http://chechnya.gov.ru/page.php?id=5036&r=126
etc...

Hint: use Goggle translate.

As you can see, 95% voted for Chechnya to be a part of Russian Federation. BTW Chechnya is one of a few places when Putin got 90%+ votes on the last elections.

P.S. Why don't you stop posting all this nonsense that shows how clueless and brainwashed you are?

TheSquealer 03-02-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001094)
I can't do a referendum. Only Chechen people can do that and they did it in 2003:

http://www.wsws.org/ru/2003/mar2003/refe-m27.shtml

Uhmm... you should actually read the link.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just a punk 03-02-2014 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20000672)
Russia has declared that the current Ukraine government are war criminals - They plan to arrest them...

This is going to go way beyond the Crimea.....

Why have you posted this and quoted my post about Ukrainian president removal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20000719)
Nice back flip :thumbsup

Another clueless one here? Guys please stop showing your ignorance because you look stupid :2 cents:

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-02-2014 12:48 AM

bloody occupants in Crimea

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/marv/...5_original.jpg

http://s3.pikabu.ru/post_img/2014/03..._139143180.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhpyvjKIMAACG4y.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhqpefOIcAAA0K1.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhpO2z7CQAAImWd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhoh5JDCMAA4CwA.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/argue...8_original.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/argue...0_original.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/argue...4_original.jpg

меровая апчественость негодуэ:mad:

Sexier 03-02-2014 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001094)
I can't do a referendum. Only Chechen people can do that and they did it in 2003:

http://www.wsws.org/ru/2003/mar2003/refe-m27.shtml
http://chechnya.gov.ru/page.php?id=5036&r=126
etc...

Hint: use Goggle translate.

As you can see, 95% voted for Chechnya to be a part of Russian Federation. BTW Chechnya is one of a few places when Putin got 90%+ votes on the last elections.

P.S. Why don't you stop posting all this nonsense that shows how clueless and brainwashed you are?

http://www.worldpolicy.org/sites/def...RDC_russie.jpg

just a punk 03-02-2014 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20001096)
Uhmm... you should actually read the link.

I did and I posted here a link to a critical article so nobody can say that I'm pro-Putin or something like that. However the results speak for themselves. I really don't know Chechens that wouldn't like to be a part of Russia (maybe only those like Umarov), since it one of the most rich regions of Russia because of huge federal subsidies. As you may note there are no riots anti-government protests (like those we had in Moscow and Spb) etc. These are feel fine... for the money of Russian tax payers :2 cents:

Sexier 03-02-2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20001096)
Uhmm... you should actually read the link.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yep, he should read it before posting, 200% free elections at gunpoint..

just a punk 03-02-2014 12:56 AM

Chechnya today:

http://cs10925.vkontakte.ru/u6998493...y_01311b21.jpg

http://www.fresher.ru/manager_conten...-zhiteli/1.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4523/...36967_orig.jpg

So I believe if they will make a referendum now, there will be 99% votes for Russia without any manipulations. There are TOO MANY Chechens in Moscow and they do not look depressed - believe me :2 cents:

just a punk 03-02-2014 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20001103)
yep, he should read it before posting, 200% free elections at gunpoint..

No, 10000% at gunpoint :pimp

just a punk 03-02-2014 12:59 AM

Yeah, these look like real occupants :)

Sexier 03-02-2014 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001105)
No, 10000% at gunpoint :pimp

Look I have absolutely nothing against Russians, but you have to agree here that most elections in Russia and for that matter in Ukraine too are rigged.

Sexier 03-02-2014 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001107)
Yeah, these look like real occupants :)

Off course they are occupants, is not that country , what will happen if you had Chinese soldiers in you city? you will be pissed correct?

just a punk 03-02-2014 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20001108)
Look I have absolutely nothing against Russians, but you have to agree here that most elections in Russia and for that matter in Ukraine too are rigged.

Yes of course. There is a lot of falsifications, but it's very hard to falsificate 95% of votes. Something up to 10-15% but not more. At least with all those manipulation technologies I've seen on the Parliament, President and Moscow mayor elections.

As about Chechens, these people won't vote at the gun point :2 cents:

just a punk 03-02-2014 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20001110)
Off course they are occupants, is not that country , what will happen if you had Chinese soldiers in you city? you will be pissed correct?

I will be, but these people on the Crimea streets don't look so.

Once again: I do not support the deployment of Russian troops to Crimea, but it looks like Crimea inhabitants do support it :2 cents:

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-02-2014 01:11 AM

бля, Вове полтора часа по ушам ездили, а чел на рыбалку хотел в воскресенья сранья поехать:Oh crap

Obama told Putin on 90 min phone call that he had violated international law
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhrXUhuCIAAnMYm.jpg
спижжено отсюда https://twitter.com/grasswire

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-02-2014 01:20 AM

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frall...6_original.jpg

Sexier 03-02-2014 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001116)
I will be, but these people on the Crimea streets don't look so.

Once again: I do not support the deployment of Russian troops to Crimea, but it looks like Crimea inhabitants do support it :2 cents:

Apart from a few the majority they donīt, even some russians techs that work for a business partner i have in crimea do not want russian troops in the streets.

Kolargol 03-02-2014 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20001127)

But first you did that...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%2C_Panzer.jpg

German?Soviet military parade in Brest-Litovsk (Poland).

Sexier 03-02-2014 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001114)
Yes of course. There is a lot of falsifications, but it's very hard to falsificate 95% of votes. Something up to 10-15% but not more. At least with all those manipulation technologies I've seen on the Parliament, President and Moscow mayor elections.

As about Chechens, these people won't vote at the gun point :2 cents:

There was an article in a news paper that total voters was 143% of registered voters, considering in all elections there is people that doesn't show up .. it was rigged by more then 10-15%.

This was Chechenia..

Itīs Sunday and iīm out for some cooling off I have a long week ahead

just a punk 03-02-2014 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20001133)
There was an article in a news paper that total voters was 143% of registered voters, considering in all elections there is people that doesn't show up .. it was rigged by more then 10-15%.

This was Chechenia..

You have no clue, man. Not 143%, but 146% and it was not Chechnya. These were Russian Parliament elections in 2011.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pQGoU1jS6A...te-turnout.jpg

After that there was a 100'000 protest in Moscow:

http://gdb.rferl.org/FEC4D56C-5507-4..._cy11_cw99.jpg

http://bigpicture.ru/wp-content/uplo...12/24dec01.jpg



http://bigpicture.ru/wp-content/uplo...12/24dec03.jpg

just a punk 03-02-2014 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20001132)

And then the USSR did this:

http://www.usinfo.ru/c3.files/278_big.jpg

http://pobeda1945-art.ru/photo/67-15.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5406/...f94_f45c393f_L

http://i46.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0508/...c3747d7e26.jpg

You have a short memory, man :)

Kolargol 03-02-2014 02:30 AM

I don't have short memory, I wrote "first" USSR and Germany invaded Poland in 1939. I also think the whole world should be grateful to USSR for winning the war and liberating half of Europe from the Germans.

pimpmaster9000 03-02-2014 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20001118)

Obama told Putin on 90 min phone call that he had violated international law

putin must have pissed his pants laughing considering how rich it is for any american president to call out anybody for breaking international law :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pornmasta 03-02-2014 05:36 AM

and then SSSR did this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jZoqZrwTLc...lav-bielik.jpg

winter_ 03-02-2014 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19999561)
Someone please correct me if I am wrong... But I thought I read this morning that the Russian president said "We need to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine". Then Russian forces took control of two airports and some government buildings....

Isn't this exactly what Hitler said before invading Poland? "We need to protect German citizens living in Poland".

the united states shouldn't get involved. your government is like some kind of disorderly lover interfering in another one's relationship. :1orglaugh

LA Crew 03-02-2014 05:58 AM

http://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/20...sia1.jpg?w=880

Don't mess with Russia.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-02-2014 06:07 AM

Kolargol, are you from Poland? what's about Poland invasion to Czechoslovakia in 1938?

http://mtdata.ru/u12/photo2D09/20499...eg#20499425454

http://mtdata.ru/u30/photo8D90/20591...eg#20591822776

http://mtdata.ru/u1/photoC5B1/208067...eg#20806710354

more pix here http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1034443.html

Rumbledog 03-02-2014 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20000680)
I am all for the EddyTheDog world order - That's probably not going to happen though - I prefer the American version if I have to choose - Russians are crazy in a bad way...

Research Agenda 21 before you would rather have any NWO at all.
Bill Gates, Ted Turner, and Lieberman want to commit genocide to reduce the world population down to 400million down to sustainable development.

They are have started with vaccines. Do your own research.

just a punk 03-02-2014 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20001244)

Can's see piles of dead people like it was just yesterday and today. Perhaps because the USSR was not democratic enough to kill people left and right like Holly NATO does :2 cents:

just a punk 03-02-2014 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20001265)

Hint: Short memory :pimp

femdomdestiny 03-02-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20000526)
So it was the Americans? The whole area was just one great lovein until the US said no stop that, everyone start killing eachother.

not sure what answer you are expecting but if we don't take in consideration personal view of events, there are historical facts left. Muslims refused peace deal with Croats and Serbs after American advice. Simple as that.

Paul&John 03-02-2014 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20001292)
Can's see piles of dead people like it was just yesterday and today. Perhaps because the USSR was not democratic enough to kill people left and right like Holly NATO does :2 cents:

Of course, there were no Gulags in USSR (death/work camps), they somehow didnt forget their troops in the Satellite states (terrorizing the population) for ~40-50 years, they didn't fucked up those states economy big time and those countries still aren't suffering from the effects of the soviet occupation (brainwashing).. so big "thanks" for that!


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