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Marcin978 02-28-2014 06:14 PM

Israeli militia commander fights to protect Kiev

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli...-protect-kiev/

oppoten 02-28-2014 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19999820)

:1orglaugh

Marcin978 02-28-2014 07:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKEF5uoU_I

Rochard 02-28-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcin978 (Post 19999570)
Rochard
in East Ukraine 60% are Russians
and East Ukraine was given by Chruszczow for free

so don't compare Poland with Poles in big majority

Doesn't matter.

You are saying "sixty percent of a portion of a country". Russians only make up 17% of the population of Ukraine. That surely does not give Russia the legal right to invade a portion of a country and say "We are protecting Russian citizens". This is EXACTLY what Hitler did.

EddyTheDog 02-28-2014 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19999899)
Doesn't matter.

You are saying "sixty percent of a portion of a country". Russians only make up 17% of the population of Ukraine. That surely does not give Russia the legal right to invade a portion of a country and say "We are protecting Russian citizens". This is EXACTLY what Hitler did.

:thumbsup...

ZiggiZiggiCrew 02-28-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19999899)
You are saying "sixty percent of a portion of a country". Russians only make up 17% of the population of Ukraine. That surely does not give Russia the legal right to invade a portion of a country and say "We are protecting Russian citizens". This is EXACTLY what Hitler did.

% Rissians in Ukraine

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...raine_2001.PNG

Kiev - 13.1%
Sevastopol (capitol of Crimea) - 71.6%
for example - etnical russians in Russia - 70% only

about Hitler...plz read about invasion of Grenada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
and to use google or wikipedia for more info about invasion of Afganistan, Iraq, Serbia, Cuba, Livia, Panama, Dominikana, Vietnam, ets...

ZiggiZiggiCrew 02-28-2014 09:40 PM

MrDeiz, plz create more threads about bloody Russians! Where Great Ukranian army? Why Russians to use AK without bullets for invasion of Crimea?

http://www.interfax.ru/ftproot/textp...02/28/port.jpg

http://cs540109.vk.me/c540100/v54010...FcE4akm-AI.jpg

cам то отложил уже кирпичей небось? :)

Rumbledog 02-28-2014 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19999472)
I'm Ukrainian and i see the situation from inside
The whole Russia's state is built on propaganda. They are using provocations and brutal force to solve issues in country and abroad.
If World War III is going to start, Putin will be the reason of it

You are absolutely wrong. WWIII will only be due to USA getting invovled.

I am a patriot US citizen! if a country attacks my country I am all for shoving our missles up your ass.

However, this is not our business. Obama needs to stay the fuck out of it. FACT.

Rochard 02-28-2014 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 19999968)
% Rissians in Ukraine

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...raine_2001.PNG

Kiev - 13.1%
Sevastopol (capitol of Crimea) - 71.6%
for example - etnical russians in Russia - 70% only

I got my info from Wikipedia, not some graphic I cannot verify:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Demographics

I'm not talking about Crimea, I'm talking about Ukraine. I understand that the vast majority of citizens in the Crimea are Russian, and that's fine; If they want to be Russian they can move to Russia or they can peacefully vote on succession - which would most likely win by a landslide. But having another country come in and seize airports and government buildings.... Takes balls.

oppoten 02-28-2014 10:06 PM

http://candidteengirlfriends.com/ima...ats-facist.jpg

ZiggiZiggiCrew 02-28-2014 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19999988)
I got my info from Wikipedia, not some graphic I cannot verify:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Demographics

tnx for sharing! pic from wiki
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mpire_1751.jpg
can not see Crimea in Ukraine:winkwink:
70% of the territory of modern Ukraine are gifts of the Russian Empire and USSR:winkwink:
if true Ukranians do not want live under bloody Russians they must back all gifts, ящетаю:winkwink:

ZiggiZiggiCrew 02-28-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19999472)
I'm Ukrainian and i see the situation from inside
The whole Russia's state is built on propaganda. They are using provocations and brutal force to solve issues in country and abroad.
If World War III is going to start, Putin will be the reason of it

http://fishki.net/upload/users/35312...a4f41570fb.jpg

EddyTheDog 02-28-2014 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 19999997)
tnx for sharing! pic from wiki
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mpire_1751.jpg
can not see Crimea in Ukraine:winkwink:
70% of the territory of modern Ukraine are gifts of the Russian Empire and USSR:winkwink:
if true Ukranians do not want live under bloody Russians they must back all gifts, ящетаю:winkwink:

How far back in history do we have to go?..

I'll be buggered if I will learn Latin at my age.....

just a punk 02-28-2014 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19999555)
Is russia moving all the jews into the ghettos? lining them up for work camps and slave labour?

Russian is not but Ukrainians did that in the past and the Jewish people are real afraid they will do it again :2 cents:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...vov-pogrom.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_31F6IxC_Gs...1600/lviv1.jpg

https://filipspagnoli.files.wordpres...ed1.jpeg?w=696

All I wanted to say about fascism :2 cents:

just a punk 02-28-2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19999629)
Let's get to brass tacks, which country has the better vodka?

This guy says the best vodka is in Poland:

http://kwamz.files.wordpress.com/200...ugh-laurie.jpg

EddyTheDog 02-28-2014 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20000029)
...

All I wanted to say about fascism :2 cents:

For fuck sake - Who woke CyberSEO up?..

just a punk 02-28-2014 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19999768)
Well, there is Cuba...

Sorry, Cuba what? :helpme

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19999783)
Russia did much more than give out sweets in Cuba. I recall a near nuclear war over the subject actually.

Russians did that? Maybe it was USSR (Russia + Ukraine + Belarus + Baltic countries + Georgia + Armenia and others)?

just a punk 02-28-2014 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 19999794)
saccage willy :1orglaugh



Yes he's a great expert on... neckties :winkwink:

just a punk 02-28-2014 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20000033)
For fuck sake - Who woke CyberSEO up?..

Our tomcat. A small creature was hungry :)

just a punk 03-01-2014 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 19999968)
about Hitler...plz read about invasion of Grenada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
and to use google or wikipedia for more info about invasion of Afganistan, Iraq, Serbia, Cuba, Livia, Panama, Dominikana, Vietnam, ets...

A very good suggestion indeed :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 19999973)

Так это ж коварные китайцы все под шумок захватили. Они такие :winkwink:

Theo 03-01-2014 12:28 AM

‘I’m still president’ – Ukraine’s Yanukovych vows to fight back

someone is delusional lol

EddyTheDog 03-01-2014 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 20000044)
?I?m still president? ? Ukraine?s Yanukovych vows to fight back

someone is delusional lol

Putin has been sharing the good Vodka - A few of those and I think I run Ukraine...

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-01-2014 12:51 AM

real face of Great Ukranian Democraty - Alexandr Muzychko

http://s.pikabu.ru/post_img/2014/01/...1557601220.jpg

http://cs7004.vk.me/c7008/v7008484/1...T67ah0MpJI.jpg

pornmasta 03-01-2014 02:25 AM


klinton 03-01-2014 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 19999815)
Has he ever smiled?

he is smiling on that photo ! thats the streetsmart smile ......:winkwink:

Kolargol 03-01-2014 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcin978 (Post 19999857)
Israeli militia commander fights to protect Kiev

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli...-protect-kiev/

So who organized this revolution?
Is it Jews or the Nazis?

just a punk 03-01-2014 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20000092)
So who organized this revolution?
Is it Jews or the Nazis?

Hint:




Marcin978 03-01-2014 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19999899)
Doesn't matter.

You are saying "sixty percent of a portion of a country". Russians only make up 17% of the population of Ukraine. That surely does not give Russia the legal right to invade a portion of a country and say "We are protecting Russian citizens". This is EXACTLY what Hitler did.


i'm talking about Krym, there are 60% Russians

Marcin978 03-01-2014 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20000092)
So who organized this revolution?
Is it Jews or the Nazis?

Simple, USA + Jews organized this with local nationalists

pimpmaster9000 03-01-2014 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19999472)
I'm Ukrainian and i see the situation from inside
The whole Russia's state is built on propaganda. They are using provocations and brutal force to solve issues in country and abroad.
If World War III is going to start, Putin will be the reason of it

what makes me sad is that you think putin is worse than the west or that you are fighting for something better...the west is not your friend...they look at you like 3rd world fucks and you are there to be exploited :2 cents:

Tom.K 03-01-2014 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 19999997)
tnx for sharing! pic from wiki
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mpire_1751.jpg
can not see Crimea in Ukraine:winkwink:
70% of the territory of modern Ukraine are gifts of the Russian Empire and USSR:winkwink:
if true Ukranians do not want live under bloody Russians they must back all gifts, ящетаю:winkwink:

sorry if I'm wrong, but I don't see Crimea as Russian territory on this map either... Shouldn't it go back to Turkey then or whoever was owner that time...

Borders in Europe changed zillion times in last millennium, you can't take something what was even 50 years ago as "ours" or "theirs"

pornmasta 03-01-2014 04:12 AM

Quote:

The whole Russia's state is built on propaganda.
awards of french cinema, just yesterday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/39th_C%C3%A9sar_Awards
"Me, Myself and Mum received ten nominations, Stranger by the Lake and Blue Is the Warmest Colour both received eight nominations each"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Is_the_Warmest_Colour
Plot
Quote:

the two women live with each other as lovers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_by_the_Lake
plot
Quote:

During the summer, on the edge of a lake surrounded by hills and forests and far from any houses, several male bathers, mostly naturists and gay, come to sunbathe

The film also won the Queer Palm award

"Me, Myself and Mum" french title: Les garçons et Guillaume, à table!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2315200/...?ref_=tt_ov_pl
plot:
Quote:

indeed, the latter teenage creature does not picture himself as a boy, rather as a girl or at best as a homosexual.

Now let me quote the leader of the christian party in france:
http://www.france-today.com/2013/05/...n-of-gays.html
""You can't watch a movie on television or a series without there being gays included and expressing themselves," she said."

of course, people critized her for claiming that, but what she said is actually the truth.
Why ? because it's the propaganda of the current governement.

pornmasta 03-01-2014 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom.K (Post 20000123)
sorry if I'm wrong, but I don't see Crimea as Russian territory on this map either... Shouldn't it go back to Turkey then or whoever was owner that time...

Borders in Europe changed zillion times in last millennium, you can't take something what was even 50 years ago as "ours" or "theirs"

You make a confusion between territorial continuity and territory

eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

or:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay

klinton 03-01-2014 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom.K (Post 20000123)
sorry if I'm wrong, but I don't see Crimea as Russian territory on this map either... Shouldn't it go back to Turkey then or whoever was owner that time...

Borders in Europe changed zillion times in last millennium, you can't take something what was even 50 years ago as "ours" or "theirs"

how many Turks live in today's Crimea ? How many % Ukrainians ? And how many % Russians ?

there you have answer

Manfap 03-01-2014 05:23 AM

With the war in Afganistan coming to an end, arms co's need to make their cash from somewhere.

Syria isn't that profitable.

femdomdestiny 03-01-2014 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19999561)
Someone please correct me if I am wrong... But I thought I read this morning that the Russian president said "We need to protect Russian citizens living in Ukraine". Then Russian forces took control of two airports and some government buildings....

Isn't this exactly what Hitler said before invading Poland? "We need to protect German citizens living in Poland".

It is not, Hitler staged killings to start war:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

Same principles that NATO used in Yugoslavia and other conquered countries.

Russians didn't attack first, and their response came after leaders of "opposition" ( normal person would call them terrorists) denied Russian as official language, after showing their support of nazi ideology. Russians gave biggest sacrifice in WW2 and they don't want their people under control of idiots (US and EU favorites) like this:



So what is happening was completely predictable. NATO (Germans, to be more prices just like they did in Yugoslavia and fueled war) pushed naive Ukrainians (at least some % of them) like they did in Georgia and we all know how it ended.

Mr. Garibaldi 03-01-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20000052)

a proud Oakland Raiders fan

DraX 03-01-2014 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19999472)
I'm Ukrainian and i see the situation from inside
The whole Russia's state is built on propaganda. They are using provocations and brutal force to solve issues in country and abroad.
If World War III is going to start, Putin will be the reason of it

Well I don't want to reference hitler in this, but it could be a start for WW3 either way depending how fucked up the leaders are.

It was a long time ago I stopped being naive and trusting leaders. The world will never unite in anything not in my lifetime. The only thing they have been united in since WW2 is not starting another war. Still conflicts exists all over the world in small and big forms.

Anyway im not able to influence anything from where I stand, so knock yourself out leaders.

Ah Power & Greed! It's lovely!

Manfap 03-01-2014 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000250)

Same principles that NATO used in Yugoslavia and other conquered countries.

Damn we conquered Yugoslavia? Shit when did that happen.

SilentKnight 03-01-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 19999670)

I loved that banjo tune he played in Deliverance.

just a punk 03-01-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20000360)
Damn we conquered Yugoslavia? Shit when did that happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Force

Manfap 03-01-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20000373)


Again..
Damn we conquered Yugoslavia? Shit when did that happen.

or define the word conquer for me, I think we may have different meanings?

BettingHandle 03-01-2014 10:05 AM

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ow...70670083bf.jpg

Putin doesn?t need to invade Ukraine. He can destabilize it from the Kremlin.

femdomdestiny 03-01-2014 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20000376)
Again..
Damn we conquered Yugoslavia? Shit when did that happen.

or define the word conquer for me, I think we may have different meanings?

Absolute Control of medias,control of governments, control of land by force (IFOR,KFOR, etc..), control of any decision of macroeconomic level, control of who will participate in political life of country, arresting and putting behind bars all people that were resisting (politicians or military staff that ) or that would try to resist, complete economic takeover from companies to banks, ordering not to let Russian money and banks into country for more then a decade, etc.. Puppet regimes that need to ask for permission for any bigger decission. That is not middle east where you need tansk on streets. Ocupation can be on various levels as stated above.

just a punk 03-01-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20000376)
ADamn we conquered Yugoslavia?

You have used your army to split Yugoslavia to pieces. It was the invasion. Any difference to what Putin did to Georgia or maybe gonna do to Ukraine?

P.S. Note that personally I do not support any military action on Ukraine involving Russian troops.

femdomdestiny 03-01-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20000376)
Again..
Damn we conquered Yugoslavia? Shit when did that happen.

or define the word conquer for me, I think we may have different meanings?

And when I say staged , I am talking about stuff that is usually used to start attack on country (WMD in iraq, for example ) or:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C4%8Dak_massacre

Save your time:

In October 2008, Helena Ranta, the Finnish pathologist who had conducted the forensic examination on the Račak casualties, stated that she had been pressured to modify the contents of her report, both by the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and by William Walker, the head of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission, in order to make more explicit the role of Serb troops in the incident. She refused to do so.[38]

femdomdestiny 03-01-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20000392)
You have used your army to split Yugoslavia to pieces. It was the invasion. Any difference to what Putin did to Georgia or maybe gonna do to Ukraine?

P.S. Note that personally I do not support any military action on Ukraine involving Russian troops.

It was clear invasion and open ground war on Kosovo. NATO and Albanian army trying for months to crush Yugoslav army. Once they couldn't get through, brutal bombing of civilians started as retaliation for a military failure and example what will happen if army don't step back. Tons of content online, if you want to find them.

Rochard 03-01-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 19999997)
tnx for sharing! pic from wiki
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mpire_1751.jpg
can not see Crimea in Ukraine:winkwink:
70% of the territory of modern Ukraine are gifts of the Russian Empire and USSR:winkwink:
if true Ukranians do not want live under bloody Russians they must back all gifts, ящетаю:winkwink:

Are you really using a two hundred and fifty year old map to prove your point?

Manfap 03-01-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000388)
Absolute Control of medias,control of governments, control of land by force (IFOR,KFOR, etc..), control of any decision of macroeconomic level, control of who will participate in political life of country, arresting and putting behind bars all people that were resisting (politicians or military staff that ) or that would try to resist, complete economic takeover from companies to banks, ordering not to let Russian money and banks into country for more then a decade, etc.. Puppet regimes that need to ask for permission for any bigger decission. That is not middle east where you need tansk on streets. Ocupation can be on various levels as stated above.

So the UN should have just sat back and done nothing? And allowed another shitfest like the last time?

You are a Serb yep?

Rochard 03-01-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000250)
It is not, Hitler staged killings to start war:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

And for six months leading up to the incident Hitler was screaming about how Germany had to protect Germans in Poland. Then it staged an incident that gave them the excuse to invade.

Now we have Russia claiming the need to protect Russians in Ukraine, and an incident has taken place giving Russia a reason to invade.

Not seeing much of a difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000250)
Russians didn't attack first....

They didn't? Very strange, because at no point in time did Ukraine move troops or put troops in Russia. On the other hand, Russia has moved troops into Ukraine and has taken over both airports and government buildings.

How in the world can you say Russia didn't attack first?

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000250)
////leaders of "opposition" ( normal person would call them terrorists) denied Russian as official language....

Not caring. Really, completely not caring. This is like Mexicans here in California being upset because Spanish isn't a national language. They don't live in Russia, they live in Ukraine, and Russian is not the national language there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000250)
after showing their support of nazi ideology...

Wut?

The bulk of the people in Ukraine want closer financial ties with Europe, but their President did the direct opposite, the government legally removed the President, and then Russia invades Ukraine and who are the Nazis here?

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20000250)
...like they did in Georgia and we all know how it ended.

And how exactly did that end? I read this morning Russia still has troops in Georgia...


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