just a punk

With Russia or with Soviet Union? Funny but a lot of people will prefer to stay wit Russia (nobody loves the USSR and it does not exists anymore...)

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Sid70

It's Putin to blame. He used his puppet Yanukovich to try collapsing Ukraine to buy it cheap.

About Russian education... I won't touch the dead ground.

In case you didn't know there are many Universities in the EU where education is free.
Ah, one thing, gotta speak the language.

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Sid70

Ah, and dividing people on poor and wealthy is sort of very Russian.

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just a punk

Ты не только от путина прешься, тебя еще и этот актер вставляет. Да ты точно педераст. Возможно латентный...

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Sid70

And I'm not here to compare Russia to Ukraine.
I'm here to support Ukrainians who finally did the right thing.

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Sid70

Пиздуй на крутоп, мудак маскофский, как-то так.

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just a punk

Ну так это ж нормально, что я спрашиваю о том, что не находится под моим королем. По крайней мере, это логично.

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Sid70

Id does. In your mind. In your behavior. It's not going anywhere, you keep it strong in your DNA.

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Sid70

Ебанутая логика.

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just a punk

Кто "мы"? Ты трусливое говно, сбежавшее из собственной страны. Ты сейчас о Польше говоришь? Что-то подсказывает мне, что полякам твои хотелки совершенно монописуальны. Ты там никто - дворовая собака или кошка, которую в любой момент можно вышвырнуть или тупо усыпить. Знай свое место уже, смерд.

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MaDalton

since i have understood that this uproar recently is about free trade association with either Russia or the EU, i also mean exactly what I wrote.

Ask those countries if they would have preferred not to join the EU and go the way of Belarus or Kazakhstan

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MaDalton

I am pretty sure for example that I know what the inventors of Skype would have to say about this.

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Emma

Russia says it won't deal with 'armed mutineers' in Kiev.

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Ты же бесишься сейчас, ногти грызешь, знаешь, что я лучше тебя.

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just a punk

Ага, путин во всем виноват. Еще он виноват в том, что Юля подписала с Путиным крайне невыгодный для Украины договор по газу, за что и села, кстати (Путин был против, но кто ж его слушал).



Неожиданно, да?

Прекрасно, что ты засунул свой язык в задницу. где ему и место. Тот же МиФИ сотрудничает практически со всеми университетами мира, куда отправляет своих студентов на стажировку. Например, по специальности моего сына это MIT. Х.з. знаешь ли то что такое MIT или нет. Мне похрену, на самом деле.

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Sid70

Fun is CyberSeo is going nuts about Ukrainian choice, he's full of shit sending me anal rays of anger.

I believe it's time for him to start doing that with Americans, Germans, British people on gfy to show why Russian is better.

We're ready, pop-corn's ready.

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just a punk

How many of them were suggested that? Ah? ;)

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Sid70

You seem nuts. Slow down, write in English, let people know who you are.
And fucking stick your son to Russia, you can't send him to America, it's not for patriots like you.

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just a punk

Ага, старый лысый и нищий алкоголик с Уркаины в Польше однозначно лучше меня. Да, я бешусь и грызу ногти (у котика, который спит у меня на столе). Ты просто неимоверно крут. Ты меня просто уделал в этом раунде

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Sid70

Так ты зоофил?

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just a punk

Чё русский-то язык забыл опять по-пьяне то?

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just a punk

Хохлофил я

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MaDalton

i am not sure if you really consider me that stupid or if you want to provoke me or anything like that...

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_Richard_

the interesting thing is the russian wanted to do a bilateral trade package, and the europeans/us refused on the 'us or them' grounds

just a punk

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MaDalton

well, figure out a way you can do both and you will make lots of people very happy

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Sid70

Even Google is unsure if there are gay people in Russia . . .

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_Richard_

the world is happy the way it is

adultmobile

I read lots of politics here. Really, what matters it is employment and cash flow, not to change presidents. I got lots ukrainian girls in my cam site, and no one talked of politics, in fact some older one who was around in 2004 Orange revolution, simply told "Oh no, another revolution". Just, they complain now that Payoneer card (and any foreign card?) will not give cash in ATM, since couple of days, and no any idea when they may resume to work:

[23:18:13] Julia: I can't get my money.... pity...hard times now
[23:06:11] Julia: now I think maybe better move to russia ((

Can any ukrainian confirm if Payoneer, Paxum etc. are not cash-able from Ukraine now?

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Poland is quoted as a success.

But one has to wonder how successful if its working class had to leave the country to find work.

With unemployment high in most of the Western Countries and after high influx of workers from the East where Ukrainian workers would go.

The model of closing the East factories down and exporting to them has no real future for the people of those countries.

The meddling of foreign powers in the Ukraine presents a terrible danger as borders quiet for 50 years fall into question.

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Of course there were protestors that started shooting back at the government agents, lots of them were ex army,


but....


For anyone that doesn't think that there were snipers shooting down unarmed people, here is raw video of it. I will NOT post this video, out of respect for this forum, because it is quite graphic and violent, but I will post the link. It was found for me by a good friend from the Ukraine, whose father lives 10 minutes walk from the square.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0ac_1393113611

I am again warning people that this is a graphic video. Do not click on the link if you can be upset by high levels of violence.

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_Richard_

fuck. that's the POV from that clip of protestors trying to push the line.

our tax dollars at work, eh?

Sid70

"Terrible" is when you feel enslaved by a neanderthal president in your home country you can't leave, Ukrainians have been living legally enslaved for too long to call what you suggested "terrible". Also, Poland is probably the most successful country among the other Eastern European ones.

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adultmobile

On a serious note, Paxum ATM withdrawal (in Kiev) worked 2 days ago, but not Payoneer (in other city). Anyone there tried to cash payoneer, paxum in Ukraine in past 48 hours? I would care more to the banks and less to the propaganda.

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oppoten

But was it entirely the fault of the president, and will it really be so different now?

The last revolution promised change but didn't deliver. Protestors have already been complaining about "the same old faces" going into parliament, in their BMWs and Mercedes. I'm a long way away so maybe I'm ignorant, but it looks to me that your institutions are corrupt, and that the removal of the president on its own will not change this. If I'm ignorant then I apologize.

ZiggiZiggiCrew

в общем заебали меня срачи про то как хохлы вот-вот пездато заживут как тока от России отделятся и кредит в Европе возьмут...я это с 1991 года слышу, 23 года, сцуко!

поэтому прекращаю срацца на эту тему и иду работать на рудники, пока Putin меня в GULAG не отправил за тунеядство
а украинцам от всего сердца желаю наконец выбрать честного и умного президента, например такого

прокачан не хуже Путена и Кличка

и эта, верните Крым, сцуки!

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Навеяло

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klinton

what do you think, how the goverment in USA or UK would react after 3 months of events like that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-8ww_fyrg
???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7AqkBl32k

etc. etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnq2kHnt_WA
it is always nice to post sexy young girl to talk nice things....most of audience will believe it ? or not ?

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...-manipulation/

btw. how the US or French goverment would react if protesters would start to storm gov buildings ? (like Capitol, for example...)

klinton

anyway, the different story is that....in normal country before signin some deal with EU or Russia you make referendum...and make people vote...to make decision on nations future and fate...

btw. , did Bush made some referendum before sending troops to Iraq ? i dont think so...(oh yes, he didnt because it was case of "national security" hahaha...)... so you know...each gov is bunch of power and money greedy liers....in each country...i prefer to be pussy greedy :P

Matyko

Congratulations for Ukraine, phuck Putin and russian influence.

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Thousands of years later and the greedy people on this planet still don't know any better. Wallowing in riches and fancy cars and villas while the people starve is never good for business and you will lose your head. Proven time and time again!

wehateporn

Let's hope Russia manage to take back control after this Western Coup

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True that.

Sometimes it takes even less



Difficult situation there. you can understand Russias concern with the EU pressing at its borders. Look how much meddling the US did in South/Central America in the past.

Most news is only 1/2 the story.

Whats best? Fuck knows. Vote on a country split and allow the seperate areas to do what they want no?

Blingbaby

What's your question exactly? Although I don't think this is coming to US anytime soon, if the government forces were faced with the same level of momentum and force, they would do just what Yanufuckoff did, flee. The difference is in the US people have guns so the people in charge tend to take this in consideration and are a bit more careful about pissing EVERYBODY off until they have no friends. You learn these things in Kindergarten, but some folks never learn I guess..

femdomdestiny

Precisely, you just saved me time to look for videos.I was watching how government reacted and police for a month back and I was confused how they are passive and not doing anything, Janukovich was naive thinking that if he don't respond things will calm down. They won't it and powers involved understood that as weakness.

Ukraine had three revolutions (if I am right) in their short existence. What people don't understand that is not about government, but about mentality of nation. What is the trick, put down Janukovich and bring back Timoshenko that already was stealing money?! How stupid someone must be. Anyway, hopefully there would be no more deaths but if they expect that Russian population and east of country will support nazi followers ,terrorists , western agents and give Sevastopol navy base ts it is simply silly. Trying to take by force will end like it ended in Georgia and South Ossetia.

Now, there is no crying, Russian warned that once Kosovo is taken by force from Serbia, rules will be changed forever but west ignored that and no one can tell them anything if they say we are protecting Russian population.

It already started anyway :
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...ea/495113.html

Only idiots can't see what is going on and it is so predictable. (not only territories but also economic issues that are coming from this).

Oh, and regarding french, mu good friend's relative works in french police. Remember those demonstrations in Paris that lasted for days? How they solved it? Simple, going at doors and threatening to families of people they considered involved in organisation.

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klinton

protesters in Ukraine also had guns...and molotov cocktails..

anyway, the other thing is that gov. snipers were shooting to mostly unarmed people..who were storming gov. buiildings

klinton

it is the choice of ukrainian people what they will do... but dont be surprised of Russia getting a little nervous...imagine same things happening in Mexico and Russia being supporter of one of political fronts, with their ambassador giving "sweets" to protesters in mexico city...kind of double standards, right ?
Russia is close neighbour of Ukraine with strong ties (both ways) to this country...so they have bigger right to feel something about this situation...to the contrary of US, who is just far away, on the other side of atlantic

klinton

exactly.......

Sid70

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