You should definitely be proud to be Ukrainian! Sure there are some extremists in that crowd but only brainwashed retards full of hate can condone shooting unarmed people.

Exactly. They are sad for all the normal people, but some idiots are proud of 'em :disgust

Isn't Yulia Tymoshenko just as corrupt as the last lot?

anrchy
 

Yes, that's not a news actually.

that is Russian propaganda. what else can it be.

http://f3.s.qip.ru/DKMgAIE5.jpg :winkwink:

MrDeiz и Sid70 списздИть не дадут - простые киевляне cами несли бабло\еду\медикаменты\каски с военных складов\бронежилеты\снайперки\зажигательную смесь\прочие ништяки

I hate when people are in pain, ARgggg

http://beta.inosmi.ru/images/21492/68/214926874.jpg

Ok and now who pays the pensions and state employees salaries?

For now.. the EU probably. hehe

American taxpayers will pay, I hope. Not Russians.

they should start understanding that there will soon be no pensions and salaries for many people. But, there will be plenty of credits in foreign banks that are coming. It will do the job for next few years.

Yanukovich DID that already.

But Timoshenko is fine, right? Anyway, then wait market price of gas and that Russians stop buying products.EU don't need so many millions of poor people, they already have Romanians, Bulgarians, Croats,etc..or you think that someone will buy anything from you in EU,really?

Ukraine does not produce anything that can rival with the European products, so its economics will die in no time.

Sid70: Dare to call at least one Ukrainian product (кроме сала, разумеется :)) which is better than the EU ones?

American taxpayers are having their own pensions and salaries gutted.

Mate, Romanians and Bulgarians are not only poor but also not the best to rely upon at work. I'm not saying Ukrainians are way better, but it doesn't mean ALL of them just will run out to the EU just like that.

Saying the EU doesn't need Ukrainians is not correct, I'm sure many Ukrainians would be happy to buy the goods that would come from the EU. In fact, in Poland things are cheaper then in Ukraine. It affects all the goods, starting from basic food up to furniture and cars.
It's dogmatic to think things won't improve - they improved for Poland with time.

I know, just asking to hear some other opinion. And I am just reading what Russian economic minister said, and that Russia will raise customs to protect zone of free trades. And then, only temporary solution is to take credits from MMF. Few years of life, and then....well,they will see. Poverty is bringing tons of problems that they are currently not seeing.

I always LOL when I see people to debate on a such level of perception.

Why don't you read comment on Serbian news form ordinary people that went your way 14 years ago? Did same thing and ruined themselves so much. of course, you won't hear that on news but it is hell for millions and heaven for a small %

Once the rules of business are the same as in the EU foreign investors will come, modernize factories, train workers and things will be fine.

Because Serbian way was not ours. We prefer to think we'd be fine like Poland, and Ukraine remains as a whole.
We have removed the gang that used to rule the country, now we will cut the ties to Russian mafia and things will be fine.

Please don't be insulted but you are so naive.:( It is completely same scenario, when I watch you I am just watching same episode again.

Then you should think what did your nation do wrong.

There is a global economy where Ukraine takes a significant part of.
Once old businesses collapse new investors will take over, simple.

P.S.: I think Russian wealth is based on balalaikah? No, then what, oil, gas?
Why then most of the Russians suck donkey balls in poverty and never come close
to Emirates?

nothing more then classic stupidity that now I am seeing in much larger scale in Ukraine, 14 years later. Not all people are stupid but once pushed from outside, what is someone's interest, it will happen for sure.

you don't have products,you don't have market, there is a plenty of cheap workers in EU already, and you don't have what to offer compared what you need to buy. It is simple,you will have to borrow money that you can't return. mark my words

so many things to say, so little time...

but ask around in all former USSR countries like the Baltic states, Poland, CZ etc if they would have rather stayed with Russia after 1991

and then look specifically at age groups and whether they live in a village or a city

and if they say Russia - ask them if in return they would like to give up on moving around in Europe freely and take on jobs in other European countries

так Яйценюк сказал что казна пуста ваще. Вова не даст, еуропецы тока папездеть горазды, а бабло жмут. Кто остается? И ваще, кто денех на революцию дал, тот пусть и дальше содержит. Ящетаю.

And I can only see how stupid a Serbian is. Who, in the first place, listens to Russian idiots.
So stupid and selfconfident to claim he knows what happened in Ukraine.

Припрятано. Будет бабло теперь из Евробана и Штатофф.
Нехуй пиздеть и щетадь лавандос в чужих карманах.

Прилетит вдруг волшебник, в голубом вертолете и бесплатно покажет кино. С днем рожденья поздравит и на память оставит нам в подарок пятьсот искомо :thumbsup

Maybe I don't know what kind of situation is in Ukraine for ordinary n, that is true and what I saw in eastern eu back in 1990's was really sad and bad. But from my perspective, those times were pretty good and everything was fine here so what came later was disaster on every level(economic, moral,safety,crime,corruption and everything is tolerated by EU as long as it is making profits. Simple as that.
What about eastern Ukraine and what people say there?

I suspect you're the agent from the West LOL
Stefan, only Russian and Serbian seem to be telling Ukrainians what they did wrong.
I'd be happy to end this discussion, but Russian crap is now everywhere and won't stop.
Will be more pages then gifs :)))))

Actually you are in right. It is not same situation, while you were on Nazi side, we were fighting against them. We can't be compared.My mistake.

You don't know BAD level of Ukraine. You can't imagine.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/cJe6-afGz0Q/hqdefault.jpg
http://educlaytion.files.wordpress.c...7158152565.jpg

This out of your and my competence to discuss, dude. If you have a fraction of brain saved you'd keep off discussing it.

Poland you say? Ok, start with returning them Lviv which is occupied by pro-Staling Ukrainians. Will be funny to look at that :winkwink:

BTW I do remember how EU helped Romania to take control on Ukrainian land territory just a few ears ago. And that's not all, bend over and be ready for the new events, guys :thumbsup

Ну да, будете торговать салов в шоколаде и горилкой. Европе это очень шужно же :thumbsup

How about you quit asking for something that you have no power and relation to, fag?

experience on my side, and wishes on yours. huge difference.

Anyway it is your choice, and you probably already lost half of country. How do they plan to project power on eastern part of country?

Мы будем торговать русскими медведями.

Ukraine is united.
Separatism will not be tolerated.

you really believe in that?

Yes.

I lived in Ukraine for a very long time. West and East are not separated, they were doing just fine living in Ukraine until the day Yanukovitch brought in the idea of separation.

He used the language impact and people in the East became sort of scared they'd be forced to speak Ukrainian in daily life.

It says for itself.

How stupid one can be to get into panic about it? How can you imagine that happening? Each person would be given a language controller or what?

It says about the intellectual level of the Eastern Ukraine, miners, factory workers, ex cons and felons actually - a lot of them.

Low profile people who decided to believe Yanukovich because he speaks like them, thinks like them and acts like them.

If you prefer to associate those people with Russians... then you're probably right.

Вот именно. У России есть нефть и газ, есть сталелитейная промышленность, оружейная и т.д. А что есть у Украины? Да нифига нет, твои Юли и Вити развалили все нахрен. И давай не будем петь эту хрень про "нищую Россию". Неактуально нифига. У меня теща работает врачом в деревне и получает $1500...$2000 в месяц, ездит на ниссан альмера и собирается покупать квартиру в ближнем подмосковье (тебе-голодранцу наши цены на жилье даже во сне не поднять). Отец у меня получает пенсию в районе $700. Да, считаю, что это очень мало и помогаю материально, но по сравнению с нищими украинцами, это уже какие-то деньги. Так ведь, нищеброд?

З.Ы. О своих доходах не говорю, т.к. не завишу от государства и плачу всего 6% налогов, но я пользуюсь бесплатной и вполне себе качественной медициной, мой сын бесплатно учится в одном из лучших ВУЗов страны (МиФИ) и даже получает стипендию (пусть и смешную) за это. Так что, не надо мотать сопли на кулак и рассказывать о "нищих русских". Тебе уже тупо никто не поверит, голодранец.