To Catch A Predator - Ghetto Edition

[xNetworx]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd6_1388055411

[Wellness Cash]

NBC should talk about getting the rights to that concept, beat those sick fucks to within an inch of their lives then turn them over to the po-po.

[TheSquealer]

They could have used screenshots of video chat/chat logs and further conversation at the house to have him put in jail. Instead a bunch of ghetto fuckheads will be going to prison for felony assault instead of him and we have to pay for their incarceration while a brain damaged idiot is still preying on little girls. You're right. That is.... uhm,... brilliant.

[dyna mo]

see, blacks & whites can work together for a good cause.

[Best-In-BC]

lol, Does no body own a dictionary ?

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

see, blacks & whites can work together for a good cause.

Ba hahahaha

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

They could have used screenshots of video chat/chat logs and further conversation at the house to have him put in jail. Instead a bunch of ghetto fuckheads will be going to prison for felony assault instead of him and we have to pay for their incarceration while a brain damaged idiot is still preying on little girls. You're right. That is.... uhm,... brilliant.

honest question- was that felony assault?

[Pipecrew]

The sad thing is. Two weeks from now after this has gone viral. You are going to see assault and false imprisonment charges for all these wannabe thugs.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

honest question- was that felony assault?

Premeditated felony assault. Conspiracy to commit ?. Plus kidnapping if the guy is held against his will, the list could include at least 5 different charges if a DA wanted to be creative to make a point.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Premeditated felony assault. Conspiracy to commit ?. Plus kidnapping if the guy is held against his will, the list could include at least 5 different charges if a DA wanted to be creative to make a point.

well, that's no good then.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

honest question- was that felony assault?

Typically when someone is down and not attempting to fight back in any way and someone continues to punch... yes.

As L-Pink stated... also premeditated, conspiracy etc etc etc etc

These guys are no more intelligent that the dude that showed up at the door and cheering them on is equally retarded as that dude is right now, likely trolling a chat room for little girls.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Typically when someone is down and not attempting to fight back in any way and someone continues to punch... yes.

As L-Pink stated... also premeditated, conspiracy etc etc etc etc

i'm a lover, not a fighter.

i had thought/assumed the felony part meant a weapon had to be involved, but i am not up on violent crime law

[xNetworx]

Can't we all just be happy a pedo got his ass kicked. Now I feel like I'm in a criminal justice class at a community college.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CamBoss

Can't we all just be happy a pedo got his ass kicked. Now I feel like I'm in a criminal justice class at a community college.

i thought it was pretty fukin cool too! i wonder if a predator would call the cops anyway after something like that.

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

They could have used screenshots of video chat/chat logs and further conversation at the house to have him put in jail. Instead a bunch of ghetto fuckheads will be going to prison for felony assault instead of him and we have to pay for their incarceration while a brain damaged idiot is still preying on little girls. You're right. That is.... uhm,... brilliant.

Exactly what I was thinking, while watching this. So, you did something "noble", but now you could be facing some serious charges for that vigilante justice and that peedo could get off without proper charges. Fucking genius. Didn't one of the guys say he JUST got off a chain gang?

Fock.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm a lover, not a fighter.

i had thought/assumed the felony part meant a weapon had to be involved, but i am not up on violent crime law

No, you don't need a weapon (state laws vary). Just attacking someone with a closed fist with intent to inflict grave bodily harm is often enough. I am too lazy to look up the laws as examples.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i'm a lover, not a fighter.

i had thought/assumed the felony part meant a weapon had to be involved, but i am not up on violent crime law

You would be amazed at the amount of people in federal prison for conspiracy to commit, whatever. That's the kicker, the fed's step in and suddenly the planning of the crime is worse that the crime. Doesn't even matter if the crime was carried out, in fact you can back out of a crime and still be hit with conspiracy.

Fact is those guys conspired to commit enough crimes to face life in prison if the feds get involved. How's that for a backfire?

edit; not saying it wasn't a well deserved beat down but fuck man, they made the governments entire case by taking a fucking video. In effect bragging about their own crimes.


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[CyberHustler]

Nigga got his issue... don't feel bad for him at all, fuck em

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

No, you don't need a weapon (state laws vary). Just attacking someone with a closed fist with intent to inflict grave bodily harm is often enough. I am too lazy to look up the laws as examples.

i don't require examples, was just relaying why i asked the question.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Fact is those guys conspired to commit enough crimes to face life in prison if the feds get involved. How's that for a backfire?

This was my first thought "wow, epic fail"... a dude got smacked a few times, but the others can literally lose much of the rest of their lives over it... and its documented with video.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

You would be amazed at the amount of people in federal prison for conspiracy to commit, whatever. That's the kicker, the fed's step in and suddenly the planning of the crime is worse that the crime. Doesn't even matter if the crime was carried out, in fact you can back out of a crime and still be hit with conspiracy.

Fact is those guys conspired to commit enough crimes to face life in prison if the feds get involved. How's that for a backfire?

i can only hope i would be level-headed if i was sitting around the house knowing some predator was after my little sister.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i don't require examples, was just relaying why i asked the question.

My best friend was once charged with felony assault for kicking a car door shut on a guys legs as he was getting out of the car to attack him... and there was a real fear he was armed as well.

I think the only difference with weapons typically, assuming more went down, is that they carry their own charges. "assault with a deadly weapon" type stuff in addition to everything else.

[xNetworx]

The only thing wrong these guys did was record a video

[mineistaken]

You 28? Damn, you look 30 to me. As if 28 and 30 look different and by that much that its so distinguished difference

[CyberHustler]

Way worse beat downs all over worldstar for lighter situations and niggas is aight... a dude getting punched in the face a little and slapped around a bit for trying to get a kid drunk and fuck her ain't going to get these guys in much trouble at all.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

My best friend was once charged with felony assault for kicking a car door shut on a guys legs as he was getting out of the car to attack him... and there was a real fear he was armed as well.

I think the only difference with weapons typically, assuming more went down, is that they carry their own charges. "assault with a deadly weapon" type stuff in addition to everything else.

i see.

i've never watched those datelines shows, i am familiar with the premise though, what happens to those predators? what charges do they face? is that enough to get them to stop? iow, if these guys called the police and presented them with screen shots and communications, what would happen to that guy?

[VikingMan]

The main Amazon.com campus used to be owned by Paul Allen until last year. Anyway Paul Allen had his own security team roaming the campus in addition to the security team that Amazon hired. The top guy who worked for Paul Allen was a guy named Omar. This guy always gave me the creeps just like most other typical security guards. He also worked an assistant football coach for a local school.

Anyway one day I am watching the local news and he got busted trying to set up a sexual encounter with a 13 year old girl. Unbelievable that this sick fuck was in charge of not only the security of a billion dollar property but also in coaching kids.

Another interesting thing is the media refused to report that he worked for Paul Allen and also on the Amazon.com campus. Gotta protect those advertising dollars.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/high...ave-sex/nSwgY/

[Tofu]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Way worse beat downs all over worldstar for lighter situations and niggas is aight... a dude getting punched in the face a little and slapped around a bit for trying to get a kid drunk and fuck her ain't going to get these guys in much trouble at all.

Interesting point...yet, I'm not sure of the numbers of folks who were beat down on worldstar who actually try to press charges. Not saying that this guy will or has.

*shrug*

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Interesting point...yet, I'm not sure of the numbers of folks who were beat down on worldstar who actually try to press charges. Not saying that this guy will or has.

*shrug*

A defense attorney will view that video, say he sees every person in the room committing a felony and want to know why his client is the only one arrested.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by Tofu

Interesting point...yet, I'm not sure of the numbers of folks who were beat down on worldstar who actually try to press charges. Not saying that this guy will or has.

*shrug*

doubt he gonna press charges:

-fuckboy- dials 911

-dispatcher- 'whats your emergency?'

-fuckboy- 'i just tried to get this little girl drunk so i can fuck, but these wiggers kicked my ass and put the video of my ass whoopin online'

yeah... you know if they go down, he goin down too... let him try to press some type of charge, big bubba gonna get in that ass behind them walls... and that's just going to be the least of his worries, rodents like kiddy diddlers get exterminated behind them walls

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i see.

i've never watched those datelines shows, i am familiar with the premise though, what happens to those predators? what charges do they face? is that enough to get them to stop? iow, if these guys called the police and presented them with screen shots and communications, what would happen to that guy?

I dont know really. I like watching that show when i catch it on just because its fascinating to watch people deny things or to see the legit shock ... and more interesting the lack of shock.

But i would imagine given what they document... the chat logs, people giving the girl pics of their genitals, the graphic descriptions of what they want to do and what they expect to do once they arrive, traveling to the girl..., crossing state lines for the purpose of... etc etc there ends up being a litany of charges as is usually the case for what appears on the surface to be a simple crime and they would vary from state to state.

[Juicy D. Links]

dumb idiots recorded it and put it online.... morons... the pedo is prob going to press charges against the guys and most likely they will get fucked for this...


Stupiddddd idiots for taping it ...

[lagcam]

"Two wrongs do not make a right"...... but if the end result of a predator getting the tables turned on him by some thugs is that he will not be cruising facebook for 13 year olds again, and the thugs themselves get some form of punishment for their stupidity in videoing and publishing online their pretty cowardly attack on him, then you could say that the end result is not far from a little bit right.

You also have to hope that any other predators seeing this will think twice and that any wannabe vigilantes lying in wait for those that don't will at least be smart enough to keep the cameras off....

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I dont know really. I like watching that show when i catch it on just because its fascinating to watch people deny things or to see the legit shock ... and more interesting the lack of shock.

But i would imagine given what they document... the chat logs, people giving the girl pics of their genitals, the graphic descriptions of what they want to do and what they expect to do once they arrive, traveling to the girl..., crossing state lines for the purpose of... etc etc there ends up being a litany of charges as is usually the case for what appears on the surface to be a simple crime and they would vary from state to state.

Tonight we?ll tell you what has happened to the nearly 130 men who surfaced in our continuing investigation. 98 of those are now facing criminal charges going all the way back to September 2004 when we set up our first undercover house in Long Island, New York.
It was during that story you met a New York City firefighter named Ryan Hogan who had a sexually charged online conversation with a decoy posing as a 14-year-old girl. Hogan later exposes himself and masturbates on a Web cam. He has since been terminated from the New York Fire Department and has pleaded guilty to using the Internet to transmit obscene material to a person under 16. He faces up to 16 months in prison and must register as a sex offender. He?s scheduled to be sentenced next month.
At least five other men have also pleaded guilty to various charges related to what they were seen doing in our stories, including Joe Wunderler who showed up at our hidden camera house outside of Washington, D.C. Wunderler, an army intelligence officer, pleaded guilty to federal charges of attempting to entice a minor to have sex. Federal guidelines call for a minimum sentence of 5 years in prison.
That was also the investigation where we met a rabbi named David Kaye. He came to the house after an explicit conversation with a decoy posing as 13-year old-boy. Just last Friday , the U.S. Attorney's Office in Virginia charged Kaye with attempting to entice a minor to engage in an illegal sexual activity and traveling with the intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct.
There have been significant developments in the cases of several of the men who showed up at our hidden camera houses. Tonight we?ll go all the way back to the beginning to bring you up to date.

[Spunky]

That's the way to do it,just don't film it

[TheSquealer]

It's very sad that you people think a sexual predator acting on compulsion is going to stop because he got punched a few times. You can't beat an alcoholic into sobriety anymore than you can beat this guy into not wanting to fuck kids. Now, he's just going to change his tactics and carry on. Even worse, he might start trying the same shit, but armed. A good solution would have been to get him arrested and prosecuted. The dumbest solution ever is to ambush him and commit multiple felonies and then publish the evidence on the internet. He doesn't need to press charges or contact the police... They'll soon be contacting him and die to their actions, he's likely going to come out on top unless there is compelling evidence he intended to commit a crime.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

It's very sad that you people think a sexual predator acting on compulsion is going to stop because he got punched a few times. You can't beat an alcoholic into sobriety anymore than you can beat this guy into not wanting to fuck kids. Now, he's just going to change his tactics and carry on. Even worse, he might start trying the same shit, but armed. A good solution would have been to get him arrested and prosecuted. The dumbest solution ever is to ambush him and commit multiple felonies and then publish the evidence on the internet. He doesn't need to press charges or contact the police... They'll soon be contacting him and die to their actions, he's likely going to come out on top unless there is compelling evidence he intended to commit a crime.

prison/the system doesn't fix/change/rehabilitate this sort of person either though, right?

[MrBottomTooth]

Maybe I've just watched too many stupid videos on the internet but for some reason this seems staged.

[Smut]

That was a white guy calling another white guy the "N" word.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

prison/the system doesn't fix/change/rehabilitate this sort of person either though, right?

I think those questions depend on whats wrong exactly and what is driving the behavior and what each states requirements are for treating sex offenders. For example, a tumor in the frontal lobe, removing ones ability to suppress compulsions and impulsive behaviors and that removes that inner voice that says "thats wrong" HAS caused people to become pedophiles, compulsive gamblers, sex addicts etc etc etc. All well documented and well studied. When the tumor is removed, behavior typically reverts back to normal.

I believe most, if not all states treat people convicted of sex crimes in one form or another and force them through programs in prison and after they serve their sentences.

[idolbucks]

Which one of them thought this was a good idea?

[JockoHomo]

He will not report it as he knows that he was trying to do something that illegal. It's like someone meeting to buy drugs and then gets ripped off buying a gram of baking powder...he is not going to the police to report that either for the same reason.

Vigilante justice is not the way to go about things for many reasons. Often the wrong person is targeted and it is a case of mistaken identity. Sometimes those giving "justice" commit worse crimes than the original one.

These thugs simply trolled the internet to look for a victim that they thought they could legally beat up for pleasure. Their intent was not to make society a better place.

Nothing but premeditated assault- plain and simple.

Happens all the time to gay men who answer online ads and then show up at houses where they are robbed and often beaten up. Many are married and never report the crime. There is no difference in this case.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by JockoHomo

Happens all the time to gay men who answer online ads and then show up at houses where they are robbed and often beaten up. Many are married and never report the crime. There is no difference in this case.

The very obvious difference is that this is fully documented with video evidence

[Gator]

I don't think it matters if the pedo reports it or not since there is video evidence that can be used if the police want to pursue charges.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Gator

I don't think it matters if the pedo reports it or not since there is video evidence that can be used if the police want to pursue charges.

In most instances police are required to investigate a violent crime once they are aware it has been committed. So yea, once viewed this could take on a life of it's own regardless if anyone involved reported it. Dumb-asses.

[JockoHomo]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The very obvious difference is that this is fully documented with video evidence

Yes, that difference is quite obvious and not the point I was making. I was referring to the victimization of the victim and their inability to report the assault to authorities.

[CyberHustler]

Well, if they get in trouble, it will be national news. So when it becomes national news, holla. I wont be holding my breath tho.

[Luckeynatl]

I guess I am just one of those people but I REALLY want to know about these people who lust for children.

Let's not forget not too long ago, it was nothing to see a grown man married to a teenager.

It's like a natural attraction they can't help....

They should be doing studies on this if they haven't already!