Input on the new ClubSeventeen.com please - GoFuckYourself.com

Roald · 12-18-2013, 12:29 PM

Step 1 of my start at Payserve.com, rebuilding the main brand site.

Step 2 is the complete member area overhaul.

www.clubseventeen.com Thoughts? Suggestions? Should I quit already? Any input is welcome.

If you got teen traffic give it a try. Numbers are looking good sofar

Cheers!

postalsex · 12-18-2013, 03:37 PM

it is looking good congrats

trevesty · 12-18-2013, 04:05 PM

I think it's a major improvement. I don't know your numbers exactly so this may be a completely ignorant statement, but I'd suggest making the model profiles public and then clicking any "content" there sends to join.

Then you can SEO the individual model pages and potentially get more in-house traffic.

Robbie · 12-18-2013, 04:08 PM

I think you should maybe focus a bit more on "mobile" traffic (including tablets).

I'm really leaning towards "Responsive" websites. Just making the site look pretty for PC's isn't cutting it these days.

You might want to give some thought to learning html5 and css3 and design the site that way since you are going to do a major overhaul.
Lot better than a mobile redirect.

crockett · 12-18-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I think you should maybe focus a bit more on "mobile" traffic (including tablets).

I'm really leaning towards "Responsive" websites. Just making the site look pretty for PC's isn't cutting it these days.

You might want to give some thought to learning html5 and css3 and design the site that way since you are going to do a major overhaul.
Lot better than a mobile redirect.

It looks fine on my ipad. Personally I always opt for using the full site option verses using a mobile version of a site. Can't speak for how it looks on a phone though..

Robbie · 12-18-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It looks fine on my ipad. Personally I always opt for using the full site option verses using a mobile version of a site. Can't speak for how it looks on a phone though..

I think most sites can look good on a tablet.
But of course flash doesn't work on your Ipad nor on the Android tablets. So the trailer vid on the tour would need to be html 5 streaming (which it may be when it sees a "mobile" device for all I know).

And it would just be a lot cleaner and more effective if it were a Responsive site so it would look perfect on your Ipad or on a mini Ipad or on a Nexus7 or on a smart phone.

Why lose any of your audience? Especially one that is growing larger every day (mobile).

BSleazy · 12-18-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It looks fine on my ipad. Personally I always opt for using the full site option verses using a mobile version of a site. Can't speak for how it looks on a phone though..

Responsive designs on tablets look close to the regular layout. It's phones where you get more of a change where some things are moved or hidden.

Robbie · 12-18-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BSleazy

Responsive designs on tablets look close to the regular layout. It's phones where you get more of a change where some things are moved or hidden.

Bingo.

I just re-did my band website as a Responsive design. You can see how it works great on PC, Tablet, AND Smartphone:
http://tptrash.com/

I'm working on Claudia Marie's site...but it's a very complicated thing to do. May take me a while. But that's my end goal.

AHarper · 12-18-2013, 04:57 PM

Looks good. I agree with trevesty, single profile pages for each model would be cool.

And direct debit as payment option for EU / german users would be awesome.

slapass · 12-18-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AHarper

Looks good. I agree with trevesty, single profile pages for each model would be cool.

Seems odd to being giving him this advice hahahah. Roald sort of invented that or lest was an early adoptor.

crockett · 12-18-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I think most sites can look good on a tablet.
But of course flash doesn't work on your Ipad nor on the Android tablets. So the trailer vid on the tour would need to be html 5 streaming (which it may be when it sees a "mobile" device for all I know).

And it would just be a lot cleaner and more effective if it were a Responsive site so it would look perfect on your Ipad or on a mini Ipad or on a Nexus7 or on a smart phone.

Why lose any of your audience? Especially one that is growing larger every day (mobile).

Well far as flash not working that's a apple vs adobe argument, but as being a heavy mobile user over the last year, I would rather not see anything that auto plays. Ie flash slide shows or HTML5 replacement, being it eats up data with out giving me a choice.

slapass · 12-18-2013, 05:05 PM

odd question can we surf that site from the states? Now that we know big brother is watching everything.

Robbie · 12-18-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Well far as flash not working that's a apple vs adobe argument, but as being a heavy mobile user over the last year, I would rather not see anything that auto plays. Ie flash slide shows or HTML5 replacement, being it eats up data with out giving me a choice.

HTML5 video doesn't auto start. And flash doesn't work on Android either. You have to go html5 in order to have any kind of trailer.

And the vid on that tour doesn't auto start either on a PC. So that's not an issue here.

GetSCORECash · 12-18-2013, 05:07 PM

The best part is the cam integration.

slapass · 12-18-2013, 05:15 PM

Best part is Amber/Caprice at "17". hahaha

Hunter_ST · 12-18-2013, 05:18 PM

Looks good.

Truly responsive design is the way to go... frees you up from maintaining two or more versions of the site (mobile and desktop).

Web statistics will tell how many of your visitors are on mobile.

bns666 · 12-18-2013, 05:24 PM

site uses tables for layout??

jódete · 12-18-2013, 05:34 PM

looks good roald, might promote ya.
my sites coded @ 950 width. dont wanna loose my mobile.

Roald · 12-18-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty

I think it's a major improvement. I don't know your numbers exactly so this may be a completely ignorant statement, but I'd suggest making the model profiles public and then clicking any "content" there sends to join.

Then you can SEO the individual model pages and potentially get more in-house traffic.

That's the idea evantually. At the moment the backend needs to be rebuild and when that feature is there we can use it on the front-end too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I think you should maybe focus a bit more on "mobile" traffic (including tablets).

I'm really leaning towards "Responsive" websites. Just making the site look pretty for PC's isn't cutting it these days.

You might want to give some thought to learning html5 and css3 and design the site that way since you are going to do a major overhaul.
Lot better than a mobile redirect.

I have to go with what we have right now. First step is getting this online, next step is tweaking and doing the backend. Third step is adapting to "new" things like responsive designs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

It looks fine on my ipad. Personally I always opt for using the full site option verses using a mobile version of a site. Can't speak for how it looks on a phone though..

On tablets all works fine (except for the flash stream).

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHarper

Looks good. I agree with trevesty, single profile pages for each model would be cool.

And direct debit as payment option for EU / german users would be awesome.

We have Sofort and Ideal already.

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Originally Posted by slapass

odd question can we surf that site from the states? Now that we know big brother is watching everything.

All is perfectly legal. It's a decades old brand, not the age.

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Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

The best part is the cam integration.

Which is a big part of our revenue. The cams are going to be integrated throughout the site(s)

Thanks guys!!

Marialovesporn · 12-19-2013, 04:08 AM

Looks real good, nice work !

PornDiscounts-V · 12-19-2013, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It looks fine on my ipad. Personally I always opt for using the full site option verses using a mobile version of a site. Can't speak for how it looks on a phone though..

Me too. I hate mobile sites when on my mobile phone. I bought a phone with a huge screen because I don't want a mobile version.

Roald · 12-19-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marialovesporn

Looks real good, nice work !

We need to talk!!! Email me ;)

MaDalton · 12-19-2013, 09:50 AM

it definitely needs more of our content ;)

otherwise it's looking good already

Klen · 12-19-2013, 10:30 AM

Well when it comes to paysites that require deep analyse,but when it comes to billing department,you might expand it to make a service like netcash.

Relentless · 12-19-2013, 10:33 AM

HUGE improvement.

Congrats!

Fat Panda · 12-19-2013, 10:44 AM

what a disgusting domain

pornguy · 12-19-2013, 10:52 AM

When looking at a site that has clickable images especially like he kind that go to a models page I always thought it a good idea to take the guys to the page where the girl clicked is. If you click a girl name isabella then it should take them to her on the models page or as close as can be.

Roald · 12-19-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

it definitely needs more of our content ;)

otherwise it's looking good already

lol

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Well when it comes to paysites that require deep analyse,but when it comes to billing department,you might expand it to make a service like netcash.

Not sure what you are saying here

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

When looking at a site that has clickable images especially like he kind that go to a models page I always thought it a good idea to take the guys to the page where the girl clicked is. If you click a girl name isabella then it should take them to her on the models page or as close as can be.

That's the idea yes, coming up in v2

Mediamix · 12-19-2013, 11:19 AM

That really looks great!

adultmobile · 12-19-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

The best part is the cam integration.

I agree, you got a cam site since 1998 and waited 15 years to integrate it! (say hello to Peter and Dennis). Compare with previous 2013 version:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130531...seventeen.com/

Thre was only a small side "banner" about cams.
But I see you lost the languages, german french and chinese. I remember you was the earliest teen site to support JAPANESE, proof 1999:
https://web.archive.org/web/19990429...seventeen.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/19990209...ndexjapan.html

English preview page 1999 - in page 3 advertises live chat:
https://web.archive.org/web/19991013...seventeen.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/19991012....com/pre2.html
https://web.archive.org/web/19991012....com/pre3.html

So small layout, it would do well in mobile

media · 12-19-2013, 03:50 PM

The site looks tits Roald.. great use of sql data!!!

Roald · 12-20-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

I agree, you got a cam site since 1998 and waited 15 years to integrate it! (say hello to Peter and Dennis). Compare with previous 2013 version:

https://web.archive.org/web/20130531...seventeen.com/

Thre was only a small side "banner" about cams.
But I see you lost the languages, german french and chinese. I remember you was the earliest teen site to support JAPANESE, proof 1999:
https://web.archive.org/web/19990429...seventeen.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/19990209...ndexjapan.html

English preview page 1999 - in page 3 advertises live chat:
https://web.archive.org/web/19991013...seventeen.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/19991012....com/pre2.html
https://web.archive.org/web/19991012....com/pre3.html

So small layout, it would do well in mobile

The languages will be back, give us some time

Lilit · 12-20-2013, 03:05 AM

Looks good, Roald! My only suggestion would be what Pornguy has already voiced, you target by girl on the main page, you get someone interested in a specific girl or episode and then the targeting breaks at the next click because the user gets a generic page with video updates.

KevinDevil · 12-20-2013, 03:11 AM

Great design, well done!

JFK · 12-20-2013, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

it definitely needs more of our content ;)

otherwise it's looking good already

noshit · 12-20-2013, 03:40 AM

What pornguy said and get rid of the google fonts. Oh and fix the 'Forgot password' function on payserve

Been a long time ...but lookin good!

Roald · 12-20-2013, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilit

Looks good, Roald! My only suggestion would be what Pornguy has already voiced, you target by girl on the main page, you get someone interested in a specific girl or episode and then the targeting breaks at the next click because the user gets a generic page with video updates.

Yes yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by noshit

What pornguy said and get rid of the google fonts. Oh and fix the 'Forgot password' function on payserve

Been a long time ...but lookin good!

Google fonts?

The password function is working, just tested it myself. Make sure when you click "Forgotten Password" to scroll down a bit. Let me know if that works

RJHere · 12-20-2013, 04:10 AM

Background looks weird to me (1366x768)

Roald · 12-20-2013, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RJHere

Background looks weird to me (1366x768)

Will be updated next week!

RJHere · 12-20-2013, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Will be updated next week!

Roald · 12-20-2013, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RJHere

This is what it looks like here

jimmycastor · 12-20-2013, 04:51 AM

lost a bit of its outstanding charachter it had before
now it looks like just every other teen network site on this planet

seeandsee · 12-20-2013, 04:58 AM

I like colors and design, but ratios will show how much surfers like it

Roald · 12-20-2013, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycastor

lost a bit of its outstanding charachter it had before
now it looks like just every other teen network site on this planet

I hear you however we had to do something. Imo the charachter it had was most due to the 1999 layout it had. But you are right, this is something we need to keep in mind that we don't go too general.

Thank you.

xmarketing · 12-20-2013, 06:35 AM

I like it

Ross · 12-20-2013, 12:32 PM

Sent you an email with some feedback.

Roald · 12-20-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Sent you an email with some feedback.

Got it. Appreciated thanks!!!

Theo · 12-20-2013, 04:15 PM

Looks very good. I would just add the dates of the updates. Helps building confidence on user that the site is frequently updated.

12-20-2013, 05:29 PM

I agree with jimmycastor.

Bringing back a little of the site color scheme would be nice. There is value in the fact the site has been around so long, and a little retro can be cool for a new generation. Show graphically while at the same time proving it still updates with fresh new girls. Don't loose your history!

Good luck Roald and the rest of the team!

Arnox · 12-20-2013, 05:40 PM

Very small things.

In the header text:

Quote:

Over 3000 cute girls

Make this 'Over 3,000 cute girls' instead. Physchological studies have shown people perceive numbers to be slightly larger in size when they include commas and full stops. This has a negative impact for money ($1999 compared to $1,999.00) but for numbers you want to flaunt, it's a good idea.

In the sidebar text:

Quote:

3.700+ cute teen girls, 3.000+ HQ video scenes

You want these two to use a comma. It just looks neater and is the standard form of digit display in English. After all, you could mean you've got 3.7 girls inside (one model is missing an arm and a leg)!

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trevesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 3,808	I think it's a major improvement. I don't know your numbers exactly so this may be a completely ignorant statement, but I'd suggest making the model profiles public and then clicking any "content" there sends to join. Then you can SEO the individual model pages and potentially get more in-house traffic.

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12-20-2013, 04:15 PM	#48
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Looks very good. I would just add the dates of the updates. Helps building confidence on user that the site is frequently updated.

12-20-2013, 05:29 PM	#49
Rat King Guest Posts: n/a	I agree with jimmycastor. Bringing back a little of the site color scheme would be nice. There is value in the fact the site has been around so long, and a little retro can be cool for a new generation. Show graphically while at the same time proving it still updates with fresh new girls. Don't loose your history! Good luck Roald and the rest of the team!