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Leaner, Meaner, Faster
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I don't believe that you can blame producers. Performers are not their children. They are grown men and women. Think about this: In the 1980's AIDS was a death sentence. And it was an epidemic. Nobody was sure what the hell was going to happen next. John Holmes...arguably the "biggest" male porn star of all time, even died from it (along with a few other IV drug user/performers). Nobody called for "mandatory condoms" or for the govt. to get involved or blamed producers for people's "safety" when they are filming people fucking. By the time the 1990's got around, if you got diagnosed with HIV you could take medication and stop it from ever becoming AIDS. It was no longer an automatic death sentence. People have been living with it for decades and these day take ONE pill a day. Just like taking a vitamin in the morning. They are perfectly healthy and live normal lives. And in the 1990's, nobody was screaming all this bullshit. They didn't even do mandatory testing. Mandatory testing didn't even start until a few years back. I just think that everybody should stop knee-jerk reacting and take a deep breath. Testing does allow folks to stop the spread of it. (too bad that "civilians" don't test every once in a while too) You're never gonna stop people from doing IV drugs and sharing needles. It's just a fact. Been happening since our great grandparents were young. You're also never gonna stop guys from fucking other guys. It just happens. Nobody wants to admit it...but it happens all the time. And you have to keep in mind, these guys and girls who are "performers" work in the sex industry for a reason: They are good at fucking, and they enjoy fucking a lot more than the average human being. You can't expect Michael Phelps to not go swimming when he's not doing the Olympics. He probably is in a pool more than anybody on Earth. LOL And you can't expect good looking, young people to not fuck and have fun. All of us can rail about it and demand that they always use condoms (which is the WORST sex in the world...you can't feel shit) on set AND in their personal lives. They won't. And you can't blame a guy holding the camera and paying out the money and taking all the legal risks when you have extremely sexual people who voluntarily are fucking in front of your camera. If you really think about it...minus the knee-jerk reactions and "outrage", it's kind of silly to think that anybody can command people to wear a condom or not fuck in their private lives. It's a goddamn miracle that people are willing to allow blood to be drawn and their medical records passed around like cliff notes. But what isn't silly...is ALLOWING the govt. to take step one into our sex lives. Our founding fathers NEVER envisioned that. And before you tell me that AIDS didn't exist then, I'd like to remind you that Syphilis & Gonorrhea were death sentences up until antibiotics were made. I don't recall George Washington or Thomas Jefferson saying that the govt. had any right to tell prostitutes of the 18th and 19th century that they had to wear a condom. Because they KNEW it's not the govt.'s place to do so. It's YOUR place and MY place to make that decision for OURSELVES. And not for others. |
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And life would just fucking suck. I hope that what you are suggesting never, ever happens. I know that you are being forced to operate that way because you moved to L.A. But could you imagine having to do all this shit when you were living in Maryland and shooting swinger porn for all those years? Ughhh... Giving govt. the right to force you to pay them big bucks for a permit doesn't make anybody safer. It just puts money in corrupt politicians hands. And then if you do make any money off of your work, they will double dip and tax you on top of it. It's one of the reasons that people have so much trouble setting up brick and mortar business in city limits. Everybody has their hand out. We opened a used car lot and a restaurant/bar when I lived in South Carolina a few years back. After a lot of due diligence (almost a year), we opened both businesses just outside of the city limits of the town I lived in. It was way too much hassle and expense to run inside the city with all of it's "permits" and "fees". I think I'd probably leave the country to shoot if we allow the govt. to just take over our business. I do agree that if folks want to use a condom because it makes them feel safer...they should be able to. And I should be able to choose whether I want to shoot condom porn or bareback porn. Freedom and personal choice. I will also say, that IF a concensus were to develop that everybody wants to start shooting condom only and keep the govt. out of our lives...then I would go along with it. It will definitely suck balls though. Not only does it destroy the whole "breeding" niche for interracial sex, and takes away the fantasy aspect of porn...but it also would leave Claudia Marie very sore because a lot of guys take forever to cum when they have to wear a condom. And our scenes don't "jerk to cum". What I film is REAL. They are both fucking...and both Claudia Marie and the male talent have orgasms from the actual sex in every scene. It's part of what differentiates "hot" sex from generic boring sex. And with a condom...it's gonna be a long, long shoot for a lot of these guys, and some of them will have trouble keeping it hard too (like me if I had to use a condom) For us, shooting porn with condoms would take our jobs from being enjoyable and profitable...to being very un-enjoyable and not as profitable. Which I believe is exactly what the AHF wants. They want us shut down...period. |
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So Fucking Banned
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When was the last time you went into a bar and observed people using needles at the bar?
The establishment would never allow this. Because they would in fact be responsible by law. The same should be applied to producers. It is your set and your responsibility as to what happens on your set. Do not cut corners in safety, otherwise sooner or later in one way or another you will regret it. Disease or fines. |
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And yeah, people at bars DO sneak into the bathroom and out to their cars and do all kinds of drugs. You know that. It's just human nature. Look, I understand where you are coming from. But as a person who shot content since 1998...a "set" is most time somebodies house or a hotel room (unless you are rich enough to buy a building and create a studio). I have never encountered any safety issues in a hotel room or a bedroom or a living room. This ain't like a bunch of steel workers 1000 feet in the air building a skyscraper. ![]() It's a couple of people having sex in a bed or on a couch. If that was a "safety" issue...none of us would exist because nobody would have sex. lol I just think that a lot of folks are way over-reacting. It seems to be the way our society is in the last decade. As I pointed out earlier...back when AIDS was 1000 times worse, nobody acted like this. Hell, our govt. has spent TRILLIONS of dollars and forces us to be searched like criminals to fly an airplane...all over a dozen guys with box cutters hijacking some airplanes. (even though in the 1960's, 1970's, 1980's hijackings were taking place all the time). Seems like we've become a society that as a whole is just plain out...scared. And wants to be "protected". I personally do not WANT to be "protected" by the govt. The govt. is generally a bunch of criminals voted in by religious nutcases. They are just itching to close us down. God knows they've tried for decades, but that pesky constitution wouldn't allow it. BUT...if fear could motivate us to give the govt. the power to search us at airports and spend money that we don't have to do so...then it's an easy one for everybody to think they need "protecting" for their own "safety". How about this: I'll take care of myself thank you. I don't need some bureaucrat "regulating" fucking. Now if I decide to shoot a scene with 2 people fucking while jumping out of an airplane, or fucking on top of an active volcano, or fucking while driving 100 mph...then YEAH, there's a safety issue. 2 (or more) people fucking in a living room or a hotel room? Just doesn't scare me enough to think my "safety" would be in danger. I'm not arguing with you by the way. Just debating it with you and trying to present the other side of the coin. It's a good discussion to have. |
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Blowing up on twitter ATM. Not sure i'm reading this right but it looks like he contacted her after he knew.
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Looks like this moratorium is going to last than I initially thought.
Regulation of the adult industry is going to be inevitable.
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The problem is that the people who are over reacting are people who want others to protect them. I get where you are coming from, and I'm the same way, it's my life and I'll deal with the consequences of my actions. But very few people are like that and want to be taken care of instead of accepting responsibility. These are the types who always freak out, because they can point the finger to someone else and say, "IT'S YOUR FAULT, NOT MINE!"
And while you are correct about never stopping drug users and gay sex, the fact remains that no one has to hire those people. That is a choice everyone has to make, and after they make that choice they can't be surprised if they hire one of them, or fuck one of them, and it turns out that he has HIV. But by relying on others to protect them, they don't have to swallow that pill and take blame themselves. That is how the majority of people are. Blame the FSC, blame Porno Dan, blame Mike South, blame TTS, blame whoever. But don't blame yourself for making a horrible decision. |
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we are voluntary losing money everyday to get this sorted out, while the creeps aren't losing a fucking penny... and they are screaming the loudest.... makes you wonder how they asshats would really react if they were bleeding money ![]() |
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Now the entire industry is shut down while we wait for the results one person to return!
http://freespeechcoalition.com/index.ph "At this point, we are awaiting one final test result from a performer who went to a personal physician whose testing system does not have as swift a turnaround time as industry clinics. If the results of that final are clear, we will establish a date to lift the moratorium. Until then, it remains in place"
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This system is broken and needs to change.
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Personally been shooting adult content since 1994. Never once had an issue with disease simply because it is not worth the risk of cutting corners to make a buck. |
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I've been working OSHA for the last three years and hopefully they will be amending 5193 in mid-2014.
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Engrish Prease....
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