Another HIV breakthrough...why is this not a thing of the past? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

zuffa · 02-04-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Thank goodness for Obamacare! Insurance will cover it.

ROFL .. wouldn't that be nice!

Robbie · 02-04-2014, 08:39 PM

Hah, I was kinda joking around. But here is an article written by a gay "bottom" who loves to have unprotected anal sex (receiving).
He didn't want to catch HIV, but hates the way condoms ruin sex.

So he went to the doctor. Got the prescription and guess what? His insurance covered it as a preventative!

Check it out, it's not a long read: http://www.frontiersla.com/mylifeonp...spx?ID=1797617

Robbie · 02-04-2014, 08:40 PM

Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

Phoenix · 02-04-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

Robbie, there is now a vaccine being put out by a medical school in Canada.
From the Med school at Western University. A vaccine against HIV

I can't remember if we covered it in this thread, but i thought since most people only read the last posts I would mention it again.

Robbie · 02-04-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Robbie, there is now a vaccine being put out by a medical school in Canada.
From the Med school at Western University. A vaccine against HIV

I can't remember if we covered it in this thread, but i thought since most people only read the last posts I would mention it again.

Here is the story on that vaccine:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/09...n_3865059.html

It's not yet approved for use. But when it is...I would think that EVERYBODY would get it.

And then I suppose that the FCC and all the testing companies that make bank on "Testing" will start proclaiming that testing MUST continue because of people possibly having gonorrhea and syphilis.

I don't want to sound flippant...but okay. Maybe testing every 3 months or so for that. Most times gonorrhea will let you know within a few days if you have it (when you're pissing razor blades lol).

But this bullshit of testing every 14 days at $300 a freakin' test is something I hope to see ENDED when and if this vaccine comes out.
And as I said earlier...in the meantime, if I were a performer in that LA "talent pool"...I'd be taking PrEP medication now to make sure I didn't have to worry about it at all.

baddog · 02-05-2014, 12:00 AM

I did not know they had ever found a cure for any virus.

baddog · 02-05-2014, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jigg

what are you saying? That pharma companies would like to have more $14,000/year patients?

14k is chump change

Probably not worth the paperwork

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 02-05-2014, 12:38 AM

Some people are less than enthusiastic about pay-to-publish science journals such as PLoS:

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PLoS One: Not a real science journal

I love the open-access concept for scientific journals. There is no reason why someone should have to pay $35 to read my papers.

PLoS is one of the first and largest open-access science journals out there. Some of their journals, like PLoS Biology, are very prestigious places to publish and have put out many amazing studies. They also have a vigorous peer-review process.

Unfortunately, to subsidize publication in their premier journals, PLoS pretty much lets anyone who's willing to pay a couple of thousand dollars to publish anything in their barely peer-reviewed journal PLoS One.

Their argument for minimizing the peer-review process (and ignoring the scientific merit of their papers) is that it is reviewed by the global community. Unfortunately, all it does is get a bunch of non-scientists make a big deal of a crappy study for being published in a scientific journal.

Don't get me wrong, there have been some nice papers I've read in PLoS One, but they also let in a lot of crap (70% of what's submitted is published), like this recent one about a model for Moses parting the Red Sea, that has absolutely no scientific merit. Because of this, PLoS One made it to my Fake Science list.

I read this about the HIV breakthrough cited by the OP in the initial post of this thread:

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German scientists have used a genetic modification technique to cut HIV out of infected cells in mice. Now they hope it will lead to a cure for the virus ? but the likelihood of that remains to be seen.

A team of researchers at the Dresden University of Technology say they managed to create an enzyme that can identify a sequence of the virus and remove it with 90 % accuracy, according to The Local.

The enzyme ? sometimes called "molecular scissors" ? gets inside the DNA double helix, cuts it up and rearranges it in a new, HIV-free pattern, according to the European news site.

Hauber said it is the only method to actually remove an HIV infection.

"There are various methods and similar approaches, but removing the virus from infected cells is unique," Hauber said.

But it is premature for scientists to be able to conclude what this progress means for people.

Professor Frank Buchholz, leader of the research team from the Dresden University of Technology, thinks the research could potentially be ready for humans in about a decade, The Local reports.

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Professor Jürgen Rockstroh, president of the German Aids Society, hopes the scientists can secure enough funding to continue their work ? and possibly find a cure.

The only patient thought to be cured of HIV is Timothy Ray Brown, who received a bone marrow transplant in 2007.

Experts say bone marrow transplants are risky and not a reasonable method for treating the virus.

Funny, that some of you are already proclaiming this a cure, because you read something you didn't understand on the internet. Gotta love the GFY scientists (almost as good as the GFY lawyers). Never let facts get in the way of a good rant or conspiracy theory.

ADG

Phoenix · 02-05-2014, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Some people are less than enthusiastic about pay-to-publish science journals such as PLoS:

I read this about the HIV breakthrough cited by the OP in the initial post of this thread:

Funny, that some of you are already proclaiming this a cure, because you read something you didn't understand on the internet. Gotta love the GFY scientists (almost as good as the GFY lawyers). Never let facts get in the way of a good rant or conspiracy theory.

ADG

This thread is about why is there not more focus and work going on around the existing strategies that seem to have potential to yield results.

huey · 02-05-2014, 12:55 AM

Isn't Magic cured?

Robbie · 02-05-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by huey

Isn't Magic cured?

No, he takes the daily medication and it keeps it in check. (sort of like cancer in remission).

The medication keeps his viral load at zero. If he took an HIV test he would come back negative.
And he is living a healthy life and should have a full life span.

BUT...if he stopped taking the daily pill, the virus would return.

What I'm interested in is the daily pill to PREVENT you from catching HIV. And Phoenix brought up the newest vaccine that has been developed by scientists in Canada to PREVENT you from catching HIV.

ADG is posting...well, I'm not sure WHAT exactly he is going on about with pictures and his attacking other GFY'ers for no reason.

But that's what he does.

So to answer your question: Magic Johnson isn't technically "cured". But he also has no traces of HIV in his system.
I guess the definition of "cured" would be that you don't need the daily pill to keep the HIV from coming back.

huey · 02-05-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No, he takes the daily medication and it keeps it in check. (sort of like cancer in remission).

The medication keeps his viral load at zero. If he took an HIV test he would come back negative.
And he is living a healthy life and should have a full life span.

BUT...if he stopped taking the daily pill, the virus would return.

What I'm interested in is the daily pill to PREVENT you from catching HIV. And Phoenix brought up the newest vaccine that has been developed by scientists in Canada to PREVENT you from catching HIV.

ADG is posting...well, I'm not sure WHAT exactly he is going on about with pictures and his attacking other GFY'ers for no reason.

But that's what he does.

So to answer your question: Magic Johnson isn't technically "cured". But he also has no traces of HIV in his system.
I guess the definition of "cured" would be that you don't need the daily pill to keep the HIV from coming back.

I was being a little sarcastic about Magic and was pointing out that at the time if you had money you survived and if you didn't you where in trouble. I'm from Vancouver and I believe the concoction of pills used now by most to control the virus was figured out at our St.Paul's hospital. Could be wrong

Robbie · 02-05-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by huey

I was being a little sarcastic about Magic and was pointing out that at the time if you had money you survived and if you didn't you where in trouble. I'm from Vancouver and I believe the concoction of pills used now by most to control the virus was figured out at our St.Paul's hospital. Could be wrong

From what I've read...it's no longer the cocktail of multiple pills. It's one pill. And insurance covers it. So you don't have to be rich to live anymore.

Not that I want to be sick...but if I had my choice I'd much rather have HIV and be able to take one pill a day and live a healthy life VS having a bad cancer, COPD, kidney disease, etc., etc.

I'm really interested in finding out what becomes of the preventative vaccine that Phoenix is discussing and I'm still bewildered why the one a day pill that prevents you from getting HIV in the first place isn't more widely publicized and why the FSC isn't at least talking about it and giving out the information (I guess there wouldn't be any money in the testing game if they did that)

Grapesoda · 02-05-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

yes but ins won't cover HGH unless you have HIV

iSpyCams · 02-05-2014, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

They need to find a way of paying scientists and doctors, as well as pharmaceutical companies who develop these things. So there is more incentive to go after them.

Yeah those are some underpaid motherfuckers right there...

Trend · 02-05-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative:

http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml

Google sure is handy.

Insurance covering PrEP ( Truvada ) is a great thing! There are unfortunately some challenges in actually getting it prescribed due to concerns over efficacy.

1. Apparently, it did not do well in clinical trials with women. There is speculation that the vaginal environment is not ideal for this medication to work. Despite the challenges in clinical trials, the drug was still approved: Gilead Must Halt FDA Approval of Truvada as Women?s PrEP Study Fails

2. Because of these challenges within the clinical trials, doctors are not prescribing the medication as one might expect.

About 2000 prescriptions likely in 2013

2000 doesn't seem like a large number of prescriptions to me

I truly hope that the science continues to advance ... quickly and we develop not only a vaccine but a cure.

edit: Sorry, forgot the links.

02-04-2014, 08:39 PM	#52
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Hah, I was kinda joking around. But here is an article written by a gay "bottom" who loves to have unprotected anal sex (receiving). He didn't want to catch HIV, but hates the way condoms ruin sex. So he went to the doctor. Got the prescription and guess what? His insurance covered it as a preventative! Check it out, it's not a long read: http://www.frontiersla.com/mylifeonp...spx?ID=1797617 __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

02-04-2014, 08:40 PM	#53
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Here's another article saying that your insurance will cover it as a preventative: http://positivelyaware.com/2013/13-0...for-prep.shtml Google sure is handy. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

02-05-2014, 12:55 AM	#60
huey Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: vancouver Posts: 3,763	Isn't Magic cured? __________________ opinions are like assholes................. "They aren't after me, they are AFTER YOU! Im just in their way" -D.J. Trump

02-05-2014, 12:00 AM	#56
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I did not know they had ever found a cure for any virus.