Should this video be banned? - GoFuckYourself.com

badmunchkin · 03-02-2003, 03:43 PM

Have you seen this video? This song's been out for a while, I always liked it, I just saw the video recently, apparently it's causing all kinds of controversy because the song & video deal with homosexuality (the girls in the band are supposedly lesbian lovers) & they were both under 18 when the video was shot. Since it has some risque themes, a lot of people are trying to get this video banned. I think it's meant to be controversial, but it doesn't bother me at all & I don't think it's any more risque then Britney's first video when she was 16 or 17 years old. It's a helluva lot darker musically & visually then Britney & her silly bubblegum pop ilk, though, so I think that's the reason some people are so intent on censoring it. Here's a link to the clip:

TATU Music Video

rooster · 03-02-2003, 03:44 PM

I dont think it should be. Christina aguileras new one shows two fagits french kissing and piece of trash mtv plays it non stop.

p00p · 03-02-2003, 03:46 PM

controversy, and the bullshit story of the girls being lesbians = $$$

badmunchkin · 03-02-2003, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
I dont think it should be. Christina aguileras new one shows two fagits french kissing and piece of trash mtv plays it non stop.

They're not trying to ban it for the lesbianism, but because the girls were not legal when the vid was shot & some groups are saying it's targeting pedo's...

Mutt · 03-02-2003, 03:55 PM

and people rip on Avril?

these two are kinda plain and the music sucks.

no way should that be censored, sex between two 16 year old girls is legal, it's not porn, it's a music movie telling some kind of story and that's protected speech.

Pornwolf · 03-02-2003, 03:55 PM

They were legal in mother Russia.

xdcdave · 03-02-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
They were legal in mother Russia.

All hail mother Russia

WhoreHEY · 03-02-2003, 04:13 PM

No it should not be banned. What's wrong with 2 girls dripping wet in the rain and kissing.

Sounds just fine to me

Juicy D. Links · 03-02-2003, 04:16 PM

thats song is amazing they were on jay leno last week

Dawgy · 03-02-2003, 04:19 PM

awesome song.

so what if the girls are 16 and kissing. happens every day all over the world. god forbid some music video echo reality.

Juicy D. Links · 03-02-2003, 04:21 PM

That songs gonna be in all the guido ny clubs very sooooon

Tipsy · 03-02-2003, 04:28 PM

One of the better records of that genre to hit the charts in a very long while. People still get very confused as to what a pedo is. Two 16/17 year old girls kissing won't appeal to pedo's but will appeal to 90%+ of the male population despite any claims they may make publically.

Much of the press says they are a little bi at best and not truly lesbian. Just clever marketing backed up with a record that's actually better than most of it's competition.

polish_aristocrat · 03-02-2003, 04:31 PM

porn people want to ban the Tatu video-clip

badmunchkin · 03-02-2003, 04:42 PM

Here's some some more info on the groups who are trying to ban the vids:

Sky News

Children's Broadcasters

Don't allow Tatu to be an ugly mark on Australian society

Electric Feminist Pamphlet

polish_aristocrat · 03-02-2003, 04:48 PM

this Tatu video should be definitely banned !!!!!

http://www.friendsofwashoe.org/video/tatu1.htm

Tipsy · 03-02-2003, 04:52 PM

Hmmmm...seems they may have been 14 when it was filmed. Still a good record though

lagwagon · 03-02-2003, 04:52 PM

that song is dope as fuck and i like watching that video.... i just downloaded it a couple days ago. how long ago did it come out?

badmunchkin · 03-02-2003, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
this Tatu video should be definitely banned !!!!!

http://www.friendsofwashoe.org/video/tatu1.htm

hahahaha

AdultNex · 03-02-2003, 05:20 PM

I agree, the song's not bad.

Gutterboy · 03-02-2003, 05:31 PM

You'd think the religious nuts would have figured out by now that trying to get something banned only makes more people interested in seeing it. You can't ban something that is by now freely avalible for download over the internet.

The peophile thing is funny. If every guy who gets turned on by watching teenage girls making out is a pedophile, 90% of the male population needs to be locked up.

Tipsy · 03-02-2003, 05:35 PM

True pedos pray of defenceless and usually pre-pubescent children (and totally fuck the kids up in the process for many, many years). It could easily be argued these girls were exploited but then it could probably also easily be argued that by doing so they'll have far better lives than left where they were. CP it probably isn't. Exploitation - maybe but as the girls also probably benefit hugely...

Whatever though - still a good song

steffie · 03-02-2003, 05:48 PM

Highschool 2003

There are lots of gay and lesbian lovers in highschool. Off and sometimes on campus you can see them hold hands and kiss.

This video is

Great Marketing
Great Marketing

and why didn't I think of it
he he

keyDet79 · 03-02-2003, 06:48 PM

Anyone hear the Russian version of All the things she said (Ya soshla s uma)? A lot better.

The new single that will probably hit your charts will be Not gonna get us (or Nas ne dagonyat). Download it.

Oh and btw, if people, and I'm talking to parents in particular, have problems with lesbians on TV, I think they should seriously reconsider their child raising techniques. Homosexuality is not something contagious or something you can pick up on TV. Worry about violence on tv instead.

In Russia they give concerts licking each other in their underwear, for christs sake.

Scootermuze · 03-02-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt

..... no way should that be censored, sex between two 16 year old girls is legal, ......

But photos/videos of sex between two minors isn't...

You can have sex with a 16 year old girl in many U.S. States, but if ya take pics of it, then you've broken the law..

UnseenWorld · 03-02-2003, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by badmunchkin
They're not trying to ban it for the lesbianism, but because the girls were not legal when the vid was shot & some groups are saying it's targeting pedo's...

Oh, yes, let's remove everything a pedo might enjoy from the world.

And besides, 16 and 17 year old girls may be legally underage, and maybe even pedophilia laws can be applied to things happening to 16 and 17 year olds. But as a psychological phenomenon, "pedophilia" really apply to prepubescent kids and early teens going through the early stages of puberty. Once a girl gets tits and a bush, she no longer appeals to real pedophiles.

UnseenWorld · 03-02-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Scootermuze

But photos/videos of sex between two minors isn't...

You can have sex with a 16 year old girl in many U.S. States, but if ya take pics of it, then you've broken the law..

Several years ago, a 16 year old came to me and offered herself as a nude model. In the business I'm in, I won't even touch "tasteful nudes" of underage girls. However, I agreed to shoot her in clothes just to keep her on the line (when she turned 18, I took some of my best black and whites of her).

The ironic part is that while she was 16 and posing for clothed shots, she changed right in front me, which was legal. However, had I taken pictures of her nude, it might have meant serious trouble.

The laws in this country are weird.

Carrie · 03-02-2003, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by keyDet79
Oh and btw, if people, and I'm talking to parents in particular, have problems with lesbians on TV, I think they should seriously reconsider their child raising techniques.

Before you tell parents what they should and shouldn't have a problem with, I suggest you become one and realize what a 5-yr old seeing two young girls kissing like that on tv means.

Carrie · 03-02-2003, 08:37 PM

PS - it's a cool video, for PRIME TIME. Good song, too.

Sappy · 03-02-2003, 08:38 PM

I'd like it banned on grounds of musical quality.

xxxinnovations · 03-02-2003, 08:40 PM

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benthompson · 03-02-2003, 08:47 PM

no it shouldn't be banned cos I love that song

badmunchkin · 03-02-2003, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by xxxinnovations
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Tipsy · 03-02-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie

Before you tell parents what they should and shouldn't have a problem with, I suggest you become one and realize what a 5-yr old seeing two young girls kissing like that on tv means.

Ummmm...it means 2 girls kissing? Sorry but I don't and probably never will see your point on that one. We're not talking about graphic sex just two people kissing and even then they aren't shoving tongues down each others throats. And yes I've had 5 year old children to bring up who are now very happy and well adjusted individuals.

Exxxotica · 03-02-2003, 09:21 PM

That video gave me a boner

Brad Mitchell · 03-02-2003, 10:37 PM

great song..

Sarah_Jayne · 03-02-2003, 11:12 PM

first of all...not legal to do what? To kiss someone their own age? Secondly, legal in what country? Thridly, the record company rubs their hand with glee that we are even talking about it.

Sleazylee · 03-02-2003, 11:16 PM

Its just simply to sell records. The girls have boyfriends in real life according to most articles.

Damian_Maxcash · 03-03-2003, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie

Before you tell parents what they should and shouldn't have a problem with, I suggest you become one and realize what a 5-yr old seeing two young girls kissing like that on tv means.

I was going to jump in on this one.... but before I do can you clarify what you are saying?

Dont want to start bitching if I have misunderstood .

Thanks

Lev · 03-03-2003, 01:01 AM

I first heard their songs like two years ago, didn't actually think they are going to be this big

Exxxotica · 03-03-2003, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Several years ago, a 16 year old came to me and offered herself as a nude model. In the business I'm in, I won't even touch "tasteful nudes" of underage girls. However, I agreed to shoot her in clothes just to keep her on the line (when she turned 18, I took some of my best black and whites of her).

The ironic part is that while she was 16 and posing for clothed shots, she changed right in front me, which was legal. However, had I taken pictures of her nude, it might have meant serious trouble.

The laws in this country are weird.

You dirty bastard

.:Frog:. · 03-03-2003, 01:45 AM

Lens should ban anyone suggesting that vid be banned. No adult webmaster should object to a video showing a couple (clothed) girls kissing.

That song kicks ass.

Splicer · 03-03-2003, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyDet79
Anyone hear the Russian version of All the things she said (Ya soshla s uma)? A lot better.

The new single that will probably hit your charts will be Not gonna get us (or Nas ne dagonyat).

Is that the one where they are on a train or something?
That's a good song too.
Too similar to the other one though.

BTW pussy Leno censored the kissing while they appeared on his TV show.
They had shots of the drummer while they were kissing... Lame.

Kimmel had the whole thing but there wasn't much to see really.

psyko514 · 03-03-2003, 02:41 AM

that's how they dress during performances

badmunchkin · 03-03-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514

that's how they dress during performances

bouncy bouncy

Sarah_Jayne · 03-03-2003, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splicer

BTW pussy Leno censored the kissing while they appeared on his TV show.
They had shots of the drummer while they were kissing... Lame.

Top Of The Pops in the UK cut to a staged straight couple in the audience kissing. Not only is that stupid it is insulting. It's okay for them to kiss but not two women..good move.

MonkeyMan · 03-03-2003, 12:01 PM

I'm putting together a music video that consists of 2 giant plastic vaginas rubbing against each other. The stage show will have giant plastic vaginas attached to fishing line flying above the audience. At the end fireworks explode out of the clitoris.

Neo fascism sucks.

JeremySF · 03-03-2003, 02:01 PM

I don't think it should be banned because there's two chicks kissing, but did you read the background on the video??

"In a candid interview in the Sun newspaper Shapovalov says: "I got the idea of Tatu from market research. I saw that most people look up pornography on the Internet and of those, most are looking for underage sex.

"I saw their needs weren?t fulfilled. Later, it turned out, I was right. This is the same as my own desires. I prefer underage girls."

Sounds pretty fucked up, that this Shapovalov guy purposely exploited the fact that they appear underage to sell the video. That's wrong.

T - Bone · 03-03-2003, 02:10 PM

I have heard their music on the radio for months now, but I just saw them on the tonight show last week and I thought they were getting a little fresh with each other.

I think it's great either way. even if they aren't lesbian they attracting international attention...

Attention sells records.

03-02-2003, 03:43 PM	#1
badmunchkin Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,797	Should this video be banned? Have you seen this video? This song's been out for a while, I always liked it, I just saw the video recently, apparently it's causing all kinds of controversy because the song & video deal with homosexuality (the girls in the band are supposedly lesbian lovers) & they were both under 18 when the video was shot. Since it has some risque themes, a lot of people are trying to get this video banned. I think it's meant to be controversial, but it doesn't bother me at all & I don't think it's any more risque then Britney's first video when she was 16 or 17 years old. It's a helluva lot darker musically & visually then Britney & her silly bubblegum pop ilk, though, so I think that's the reason some people are so intent on censoring it. Here's a link to the clip: TATU Music Video __________________ Custom, Full Color Printing with BIG Discounts for GFY! ICQ 283197499

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	and people rip on Avril? these two are kinda plain and the music sucks. no way should that be censored, sex between two 16 year old girls is legal, it's not porn, it's a music movie telling some kind of story and that's protected speech. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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03-02-2003, 04:13 PM	#8
WhoreHEY Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 120	No it should not be banned. What's wrong with 2 girls dripping wet in the rain and kissing. Sounds just fine to me __________________ I can program better than you

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	porn people want to ban the Tatu video-clip __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-02-2003, 03:44 PM	#2
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	I dont think it should be. Christina aguileras new one shows two fagits french kissing and piece of trash mtv plays it non stop.

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p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	controversy, and the bullshit story of the girls being lesbians = $$$

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	thats song is amazing they were on jay leno last week

03-02-2003, 04:19 PM	#10
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	awesome song. so what if the girls are 16 and kissing. happens every day all over the world. god forbid some music video echo reality.

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	That songs gonna be in all the guido ny clubs very sooooon

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Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	One of the better records of that genre to hit the charts in a very long while. People still get very confused as to what a pedo is. Two 16/17 year old girls kissing won't appeal to pedo's but will appeal to 90%+ of the male population despite any claims they may make publically. Much of the press says they are a little bi at best and not truly lesbian. Just clever marketing backed up with a record that's actually better than most of it's competition.

03-02-2003, 04:42 PM	#14
badmunchkin Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,797	Here's some some more info on the groups who are trying to ban the vids: Sky News Children's Broadcasters Don't allow Tatu to be an ugly mark on Australian society Electric Feminist Pamphlet __________________ Custom, Full Color Printing with BIG Discounts for GFY! ICQ 283197499

03-02-2003, 04:48 PM	#15
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	this Tatu video should be definitely banned !!!!! http://www.friendsofwashoe.org/video/tatu1.htm __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

03-02-2003, 04:52 PM	#16
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Hmmmm...seems they may have been 14 when it was filmed. Still a good record though

03-02-2003, 04:52 PM	#17
lagwagon Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: az Posts: 8,464	that song is dope as fuck and i like watching that video.... i just downloaded it a couple days ago. how long ago did it come out? __________________ FTVGirls - FTVMilfs - DanielleFTV

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AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	I agree, the song's not bad.

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Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	You'd think the religious nuts would have figured out by now that trying to get something banned only makes more people interested in seeing it. You can't ban something that is by now freely avalible for download over the internet. The peophile thing is funny. If every guy who gets turned on by watching teenage girls making out is a pedophile, 90% of the male population needs to be locked up.

03-02-2003, 05:35 PM	#21
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	True pedos pray of defenceless and usually pre-pubescent children (and totally fuck the kids up in the process for many, many years). It could easily be argued these girls were exploited but then it could probably also easily be argued that by doing so they'll have far better lives than left where they were. CP it probably isn't. Exploitation - maybe but as the girls also probably benefit hugely... Whatever though - still a good song

03-02-2003, 05:48 PM	#22
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	Highschool 2003 There are lots of gay and lesbian lovers in highschool. Off and sometimes on campus you can see them hold hands and kiss. This video is Great Marketing Great Marketing and why didn't I think of it he he __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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03-02-2003, 08:37 PM	#28
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	PS - it's a cool video, for PRIME TIME. Good song, too.

03-02-2003, 08:38 PM	#29
Sappy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 460	I'd like it banned on grounds of musical quality.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	first of all...not legal to do what? To kiss someone their own age? Secondly, legal in what country? Thridly, the record company rubs their hand with glee that we are even talking about it.

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Sleazylee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 208	Its just simply to sell records. The girls have boyfriends in real life according to most articles.

03-03-2003, 01:01 AM	#39
Lev Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,545	I first heard their songs like two years ago, didn't actually think they are going to be this big

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.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	Lens should ban anyone suggesting that vid be banned. No adult webmaster should object to a video showing a couple (clothed) girls kissing. That song kicks ass. __________________ <a href="http://www.pornopayouts.com/?rid=pp3076">PornoPayouts</a> Tons of Hosted Galleries.

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03-03-2003, 02:01 PM	#47
JeremySF Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,236	I don't think it should be banned because there's two chicks kissing, but did you read the background on the video?? "In a candid interview in the Sun newspaper Shapovalov says: "I got the idea of Tatu from market research. I saw that most people look up pornography on the Internet and of those, most are looking for underage sex. "I saw their needs weren?t fulfilled. Later, it turned out, I was right. This is the same as my own desires. I prefer underage girls." Sounds pretty fucked up, that this Shapovalov guy purposely exploited the fact that they appear underage to sell the video. That's wrong. __________________ ICQ: 176050593 / AIM: JerSF2000 "Love is the answer - but while you're waiting for the answer sex raises some pretty good questions." ---------------------------------------------

03-03-2003, 02:10 PM	#48
T - Bone Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 368	I have heard their music on the radio for months now, but I just saw them on the tonight show last week and I thought they were getting a little fresh with each other. I think it's great either way. even if they aren't lesbian they attracting international attention... Attention sells records.