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badmunchkin 03-02-2003 03:43 PM

Should this video be banned?
 
Have you seen this video? This song's been out for a while, I always liked it, I just saw the video recently, apparently it's causing all kinds of controversy because the song & video deal with homosexuality (the girls in the band are supposedly lesbian lovers) & they were both under 18 when the video was shot. Since it has some risque themes, a lot of people are trying to get this video banned. I think it's meant to be controversial, but it doesn't bother me at all & I don't think it's any more risque then Britney's first video when she was 16 or 17 years old. It's a helluva lot darker musically & visually then Britney & her silly bubblegum pop ilk, though, so I think that's the reason some people are so intent on censoring it. Here's a link to the clip:

TATU Music Video

rooster 03-02-2003 03:44 PM

I dont think it should be. Christina aguileras new one shows two fagits french kissing and piece of trash mtv plays it non stop.

p00p 03-02-2003 03:46 PM

controversy, and the bullshit story of the girls being lesbians = $$$

badmunchkin 03-02-2003 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
I dont think it should be. Christina aguileras new one shows two fagits french kissing and piece of trash mtv plays it non stop.
They're not trying to ban it for the lesbianism, but because the girls were not legal when the vid was shot & some groups are saying it's targeting pedo's...

Mutt 03-02-2003 03:55 PM

and people rip on Avril?

these two are kinda plain and the music sucks.

no way should that be censored, sex between two 16 year old girls is legal, it's not porn, it's a music movie telling some kind of story and that's protected speech.

Pornwolf 03-02-2003 03:55 PM

They were legal in mother Russia.

xdcdave 03-02-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
They were legal in mother Russia.
All hail mother Russia :thumbsup

WhoreHEY 03-02-2003 04:13 PM

No it should not be banned. What's wrong with 2 girls dripping wet in the rain and kissing.

Sounds just fine to me :thumbsup

Juicy D. Links 03-02-2003 04:16 PM

thats song is amazing they were on jay leno last week

Dawgy 03-02-2003 04:19 PM

awesome song.

so what if the girls are 16 and kissing. happens every day all over the world. god forbid some music video echo reality.

Juicy D. Links 03-02-2003 04:21 PM

That songs gonna be in all the guido ny clubs very sooooon

Tipsy 03-02-2003 04:28 PM

One of the better records of that genre to hit the charts in a very long while. People still get very confused as to what a pedo is. Two 16/17 year old girls kissing won't appeal to pedo's but will appeal to 90%+ of the male population despite any claims they may make publically.

Much of the press says they are a little bi at best and not truly lesbian. Just clever marketing backed up with a record that's actually better than most of it's competition.

polish_aristocrat 03-02-2003 04:31 PM

porn people want to ban the Tatu video-clip :thumbsup

badmunchkin 03-02-2003 04:42 PM

Here's some some more info on the groups who are trying to ban the vids:


Sky News

Children's Broadcasters

Don't allow Tatu to be an ugly mark on Australian society

Electric Feminist Pamphlet

polish_aristocrat 03-02-2003 04:48 PM

this Tatu video should be definitely banned !!!!!

http://www.friendsofwashoe.org/video/tatu1.htm

Tipsy 03-02-2003 04:52 PM

Hmmmm...seems they may have been 14 when it was filmed. Still a good record though :)

lagwagon 03-02-2003 04:52 PM

that song is dope as fuck and i like watching that video.... i just downloaded it a couple days ago. how long ago did it come out?

badmunchkin 03-02-2003 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
this Tatu video should be definitely banned !!!!!

http://www.friendsofwashoe.org/video/tatu1.htm

hahahaha :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

AdultNex 03-02-2003 05:20 PM

I agree, the song's not bad. :winkwink:

Gutterboy 03-02-2003 05:31 PM

You'd think the religious nuts would have figured out by now that trying to get something banned only makes more people interested in seeing it. You can't ban something that is by now freely avalible for download over the internet.

The peophile thing is funny. If every guy who gets turned on by watching teenage girls making out is a pedophile, 90% of the male population needs to be locked up.

Tipsy 03-02-2003 05:35 PM

True pedos pray of defenceless and usually pre-pubescent children (and totally fuck the kids up in the process for many, many years). It could easily be argued these girls were exploited but then it could probably also easily be argued that by doing so they'll have far better lives than left where they were. CP it probably isn't. Exploitation - maybe but as the girls also probably benefit hugely...

Whatever though - still a good song :)

steffie 03-02-2003 05:48 PM

Highschool 2003

There are lots of gay and lesbian lovers in highschool. Off and sometimes on campus you can see them hold hands and kiss.

This video is

Great Marketing
Great Marketing

and why didn't I think of it
he he

:glugglug

keyDet79 03-02-2003 06:48 PM

Anyone hear the Russian version of All the things she said (Ya soshla s uma)? A lot better.

The new single that will probably hit your charts will be Not gonna get us (or Nas ne dagonyat). Download it.

Oh and btw, if people, and I'm talking to parents in particular, have problems with lesbians on TV, I think they should seriously reconsider their child raising techniques. Homosexuality is not something contagious or something you can pick up on TV. Worry about violence on tv instead.

In Russia they give concerts licking each other in their underwear, for christs sake.

Scootermuze 03-02-2003 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt

..... no way should that be censored, sex between two 16 year old girls is legal, ......

But photos/videos of sex between two minors isn't...

You can have sex with a 16 year old girl in many U.S. States, but if ya take pics of it, then you've broken the law..

UnseenWorld 03-02-2003 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badmunchkin
They're not trying to ban it for the lesbianism, but because the girls were not legal when the vid was shot & some groups are saying it's targeting pedo's...
Oh, yes, let's remove everything a pedo might enjoy from the world.

And besides, 16 and 17 year old girls may be legally underage, and maybe even pedophilia laws can be applied to things happening to 16 and 17 year olds. But as a psychological phenomenon, "pedophilia" really apply to prepubescent kids and early teens going through the early stages of puberty. Once a girl gets tits and a bush, she no longer appeals to real pedophiles.

UnseenWorld 03-02-2003 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze


But photos/videos of sex between two minors isn't...

You can have sex with a 16 year old girl in many U.S. States, but if ya take pics of it, then you've broken the law..

Several years ago, a 16 year old came to me and offered herself as a nude model. In the business I'm in, I won't even touch "tasteful nudes" of underage girls. However, I agreed to shoot her in clothes just to keep her on the line (when she turned 18, I took some of my best black and whites of her).

The ironic part is that while she was 16 and posing for clothed shots, she changed right in front me, which was legal. However, had I taken pictures of her nude, it might have meant serious trouble.

The laws in this country are weird.

Carrie 03-02-2003 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyDet79
Oh and btw, if people, and I'm talking to parents in particular, have problems with lesbians on TV, I think they should seriously reconsider their child raising techniques.
Before you tell parents what they should and shouldn't have a problem with, I suggest you become one and realize what a 5-yr old seeing two young girls kissing like that on tv means.
:321GFY

Carrie 03-02-2003 08:37 PM

PS - it's a cool video, for PRIME TIME. Good song, too.

Sappy 03-02-2003 08:38 PM

I'd like it banned on grounds of musical quality.

xxxinnovations 03-02-2003 08:40 PM

badmunchkin, is there anyway I could contact you over the phone or ICQ now?

I'm interested in getting business cards printed

benthompson 03-02-2003 08:47 PM

no it shouldn't be banned cos I love that song:1orglaugh

badmunchkin 03-02-2003 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxinnovations
badmunchkin, is there anyway I could contact you over the phone or ICQ now?

I'm interested in getting business cards printed

sure, I'm not on ICQ a lot but you can email me at [email protected] or call me now toll-free at 877-289-8327.
:thumbsup

Tipsy 03-02-2003 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie


Before you tell parents what they should and shouldn't have a problem with, I suggest you become one and realize what a 5-yr old seeing two young girls kissing like that on tv means.
:321GFY

Ummmm...it means 2 girls kissing? Sorry but I don't and probably never will see your point on that one. We're not talking about graphic sex just two people kissing and even then they aren't shoving tongues down each others throats. And yes I've had 5 year old children to bring up who are now very happy and well adjusted individuals.

Exxxotica 03-02-2003 09:21 PM

That video gave me a boner

Brad Mitchell 03-02-2003 10:37 PM

great song..

Sarah_Jayne 03-02-2003 11:12 PM

first of all...not legal to do what? To kiss someone their own age? Secondly, legal in what country? Thridly, the record company rubs their hand with glee that we are even talking about it.

Sleazylee 03-02-2003 11:16 PM

Its just simply to sell records. The girls have boyfriends in real life according to most articles.

Damian_Maxcash 03-03-2003 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie


Before you tell parents what they should and shouldn't have a problem with, I suggest you become one and realize what a 5-yr old seeing two young girls kissing like that on tv means.
:321GFY

I was going to jump in on this one.... but before I do can you clarify what you are saying?

Dont want to start bitching if I have misunderstood . :)

Thanks

Lev 03-03-2003 01:01 AM

I first heard their songs like two years ago, didn't actually think they are going to be this big

Exxxotica 03-03-2003 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


Several years ago, a 16 year old came to me and offered herself as a nude model. In the business I'm in, I won't even touch "tasteful nudes" of underage girls. However, I agreed to shoot her in clothes just to keep her on the line (when she turned 18, I took some of my best black and whites of her).

The ironic part is that while she was 16 and posing for clothed shots, she changed right in front me, which was legal. However, had I taken pictures of her nude, it might have meant serious trouble.

The laws in this country are weird.


You dirty bastard :thumbsup

.:Frog:. 03-03-2003 01:45 AM

Lens should ban anyone suggesting that vid be banned. No adult webmaster should object to a video showing a couple (clothed) girls kissing.
:321GFY

That song kicks ass.

Splicer 03-03-2003 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyDet79
Anyone hear the Russian version of All the things she said (Ya soshla s uma)? A lot better.

The new single that will probably hit your charts will be Not gonna get us (or Nas ne dagonyat).


Is that the one where they are on a train or something?
That's a good song too.
Too similar to the other one though.

BTW pussy Leno censored the kissing while they appeared on his TV show.
They had shots of the drummer while they were kissing... Lame.

Kimmel had the whole thing but there wasn't much to see really.

psyko514 03-03-2003 02:41 AM

http://taty.co.uk/gallery.files/big/tattoo362.jpg

that's how they dress during performances

badmunchkin 03-03-2003 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
http://taty.co.uk/gallery.files/big/tattoo362.jpg

that's how they dress during performances

bouncy bouncy :thumbsup

Sarah_Jayne 03-03-2003 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Splicer





BTW pussy Leno censored the kissing while they appeared on his TV show.
They had shots of the drummer while they were kissing... Lame.


Top Of The Pops in the UK cut to a staged straight couple in the audience kissing. Not only is that stupid it is insulting. It's okay for them to kiss but not two women..good move.

MonkeyMan 03-03-2003 12:01 PM

I'm putting together a music video that consists of 2 giant plastic vaginas rubbing against each other. The stage show will have giant plastic vaginas attached to fishing line flying above the audience. At the end fireworks explode out of the clitoris.



Neo fascism sucks.

JeremySF 03-03-2003 02:01 PM

I don't think it should be banned because there's two chicks kissing, but did you read the background on the video??

"In a candid interview in the Sun newspaper Shapovalov says: "I got the idea of Tatu from market research. I saw that most people look up pornography on the Internet and of those, most are looking for underage sex.

"I saw their needs weren?t fulfilled. Later, it turned out, I was right. This is the same as my own desires. I prefer underage girls."


Sounds pretty fucked up, that this Shapovalov guy purposely exploited the fact that they appear underage to sell the video. That's wrong.

T - Bone 03-03-2003 02:10 PM

I have heard their music on the radio for months now, but I just saw them on the tonight show last week and I thought they were getting a little fresh with each other.

I think it's great either way. even if they aren't lesbian they attracting international attention...

Attention sells records.


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