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Old 10-01-2013, 10:45 PM   #251
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I hope they fucking killed him by beating thew living shit out of him in front of his wife/kids watching. I hope this driver is dead.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:05 PM   #253
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I hope they fucking killed him by beating thew living shit out of him in front of his wife/kids watching. I hope this driver is dead.
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I watched the video knowing 0% of the story. Now I heard this and that, but still, the driver could have escaped/fled, but he made a bad decision by driving over the bikers at one point. He could have known he either calls the police while driving and survive somehow or they will chase and kill him. Was he on coke thinking he'll handle 50 bikers? :S
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:10 AM   #255
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Hey, you sympathizers like Vendzilla and the gay-helmet guy can support the speed-bump-coma-guy now.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Justi...11664345601619
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Reading more and more I regret what I wrote, and sad about the whole situation.
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Hey, you sympathizers like Vendzilla and the gay-helmet guy can support the speed-bump-coma-guy now.

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I don't think he is the guy that started it.
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Wow the comments on the FB page are really terrible, poor guy.
The comments are so bad. They would be equivalent to someone saying that everyone in porn deserves to get Aids.

I'm not sure the guy really did anything besides being a punk. At the most he would deserve beats for being a punk, but definitely not to die or be paralyzed

Here is a kickstarter type thing for him set up by his aunt
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i've watched it several times. i think/assume that there was an altercation already in progress when the video starts, dude on the bike is aggressively riding next to the suv, i assume again that it's because the suv driver did not do what the pack wanted him to do, which was steer clear.

i've seen it many many times, from both bikeS and cars, that's how i know i could have de-escalated it all way before the video starts.

my goal when driving is to avoid altercations, events, issues, etc. i've seen shit like this coming from a mile away in my rearview and i move out of the way. if they want to be agressive and belligerent on the road, well, best thing for me and my fam is to let them. a chunk of concrete is not worth fighting over. it's your's, you're welcome.
The thing you're clearly not understanding is that most people don't speak fuckhead, so aren't going to know special secret fuckhead rules of how fuckheads think you should act while they're being fuckheads.

My biker friends (not club members, just enthusiasts) basically say they way they ride is to pretend they are invisible, not do anything stupid, signal, be very clear. Based on these conversations if a pack of motorcyclists came up from behind me the logical thing for me to do would be to not change anything in my driving so as to not spook them or do anything a cyclist might find unexpected. If some cunt tried to brake check it would clearly seem completely antagonistic and of course wholly unexpected, I'd just be waiting for them to pass by on the other MULTIPLE lanes. If someone doesn't speak fuckhead how are they supposed to know these animals want to shut down the whole freeway and will harass and brake check people to do it?

You make out like he acted incorrectly, he acted perfectly in the situation and according to the road rules, he might not have known the special secret fuckhead road rules that make a bike gang above the law, that but that's not his fault, it's theirs for not doing a letterbox campaign and informing people of their special rights on the road and how to act around animals. Just like in the wild, most people will freeze (ie continue driving legally exactly as they were) until the "danger" passes. Which is exactly what he did until the fuckhead caused the accident by brake checking him. He was even on the phone reporting their shitty activity, which is confirmed by the rest of the videos of them running red lights and driving on footpaths inches away from pedestrians. I suppose the pedestrians should know how to walk on a footpath too and always be on the lookout for packs of motorfuckheads?

Having been on the receiving end of almost this exact same situation (a fuckhead in a car brake checking and menacing in traffic for miles, to almost complete stops on a freeway - but no vehicular contact) completely blamelessly on my part, the fuckhead thought I beeped him when it was the car next to me beeping the car in front of them for being slow on green at the lights... I have less than zero sympathy for these animals. If I could have shot the motherfucker or rammed him I would have. All the more galling for being completely innocent of the "crime" of beeping someone for being slow on green. We wouldn't have lost anything as a species, just another moron or 'roid head, same as in this case.

The point is, sometimes you can't avoid situations because they aren't of your own making, you are following all the rules to a T and you don't know the fuckhead code and what might set people who think they have special rights off, with a beep, a bad look, slow driving, fast driving, they have their man-rags because their life is so shitty jerking each other off on dirt bikes is all they have etc.
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Wow the comments on the FB page are really terrible, poor guy.
The comments are so bad. They would be equivalent to someone saying that everyone in porn deserves to get Aids.

I'm not sure the guy really did anything besides being a punk. At the most he would deserve beats for being a punk, but definitely not to die or be paralyzed

Here is a kickstarter type thing for him set up by his aunt
http://www.gofundme.com/4l8kzo
He contributed to the situation, what do you expect. It sucks mightily for him but that's the risk you take riding a bike in a pack, or riding a bike at all really. There is a reason they're called "temporary Americans" or "organ donors". A pack of hyenas menaced an elephant and got trampled as it fled.. That's the price you pay and the risk you take. Actions have consequences. You can't expect many people to sympathise with the hyenas harassing and menacing people. It's only a relative shame it didn't happen to the brake checker instead who would have deserved less than zero sympathy and possibly a darwin award.
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Wow the comments on the FB page are really terrible, poor guy.
The comments are so bad. They would be equivalent to someone saying that everyone in porn deserves to get Aids.

I'm not sure the guy really did anything besides being a punk. At the most he would deserve beats for being a punk, but definitely not to die or be paralyzed

Here is a kickstarter type thing for him set up by his aunt
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So the SUV driver deserved to have scars on his face for life?

hmmmm ok then
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There are some more videos on liveleak. Didn't watch them though.

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There are some more videos on liveleak. Didn't watch them though.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664
Interesting how anyone can sympathize with those bikers.

They act like rules don't apply to them because they are in a huge group - blocking lanes, driving in between cars that are in queue, driving between lanes, running red lights, brake checking cars.

What a bunch of fucking wankers. Where were the police? Most of those idiots deserve to get arrested and have their license revoked for good.
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no, i am clearly understanding. that's why my comment is about how i handle that sort of situation. i didn't state how you would handle it. or baddog, or gfy poster #4 or the asian suv driver or anyone. just me. so i fully understand.

it seems you don't understand, here, i will explain.

1. i never spoke to whether he handled the situation "correctly* or not.

b. i wasn't talking about following rules, i was talking about dealing with what you call fuckheads, i've got enough miles on the road to know when a pack of fuckheads is coming up in my rearview mirror and have the snap to move out of the way. maybe this guy being 30-something range rover owner has yet to figure that out.

* the asskicking he got, the jeopardy he put his family in and the forthcoming lawsuit(s) should learn him real good though.

people think this guy handled it perfectly fine when he ended up getting his ass beat, his car smashed up, putting his family in danger, running over several bikers and paralyzing one.

again, my point is, i've successfully navigated myself out of EVERY road rage event i've started to become involved in. i don't play that shit, have at it, you want my chunk of road, np, here you go.

oh, and your little quip at the end of your droning diatribe reveals your real view.
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He contributed to the situation, what do you expect. It sucks mightily for him but that's the risk you take riding a bike in a pack, or riding a bike at all really. There is a reason they're called "temporary Americans" or "organ donors". A pack of hyenas menaced an elephant and got trampled as it fled.. That's the price you pay and the risk you take. Actions have consequences. You can't expect many people to sympathise with the hyenas harassing and menacing people. It's only a relative shame it didn't happen to the brake checker instead who would have deserved less than zero sympathy and possibly a darwin award.
The only thing we know for sure that the paralyzed guy is guilty of is running over to check on his injured friend. He didn't deserve this.

You are right about the brake checker though.

It's unfortunate that the brake checker didn't collect his well earned Darwin Award instead.
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He ran out there to check on his injured bud? My ass! he ran out there to beat the shit out of SUV driver not to check on some other guy he barely knew. The more you read up on this "aspiring musician", less sympathy you have for him. One good thing out of this is at least he wasn't black. Otherwise this would have been Zimmerman Part 2 movie. I can see headliners and screams of Al Sharpton - Black father of two on his bike to get milk formula. Killed by Swiss gas pedal happy banker.
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no, i am clearly understanding that's why my comment is about how i handle that sort of situation. i didn't state how you would handle it.... the asian suv driver or anyone. just me............... [snip bullshit misdirection.]

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he's responsible for his wife and kids, he should have and could have de-escalated the situation way before the video starts.
Don't backtrack like a sly fuck. You clearly and expressly said how "asian suv driver" "should have handled it" By de-escalating it the way you would. That was the whole fucking point of your post, to show how smart you'd have been and how his wife and kid wouldn't have been in that situation if you were driving.

My post explained that whilst you might speak fuckhead, not everyone does and that maintaining his speed and course are obvious responsible actions when surrounded by bikers and therefore is a stupid point to make unless you want to mount an education campaign about the right way to react to fuckheads who think they own the road. If there is an unwritten rule that you take the right lane whenever you see two or more bikers in your rear view then that's something everyone might need to know. Here's a fact, driving at a constant speed in a constant lane isn't ANY kind of escalation of anything.. it's called driving responsibly. It's like saying walking on the sidewalk is escalating a situation when a pack of thugs start running up behind you. There is only a single solitary party to blame for escalating ANYTHING and that's the bikers.

You're mistakenly thinking "asian suv guy" WASN'T giving them all the road they wanted. In his mind he's putting his head down and giving them as much space as they want on either side of him to pass. How is he supposed to know they want the MIDDLE lane???

My closing remark shows my bias against fuckhead revheads on the road, bikers, drag racers, drunk drivers anyone that endangers "civilians" trying to live their lives peacefully without being accosted by pathetic slime.

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no, i am clearly understanding. that's why my comment is about how i handle that sort of situation. i didn't state how you would handle it. or baddog, or gfy poster #4 or the asian suv driver or anyone. just me. so i fully understand.

it seems you don't understand, here, i will explain.

1. i never spoke to whether he handled the situation "correctly* or not.

b. i wasn't talking about following rules, i was talking about dealing with what you call fuckheads, i've got enough miles on the road to know when a pack of fuckheads is coming up in my rearview mirror and have the snap to move out of the way. maybe this guy being 30-something range rover owner has yet to figure that out.

* the asskicking he got, the jeopardy he put his family in and the forthcoming lawsuit(s) should learn him real good though.

people think this guy handled it perfectly fine when he ended up getting his ass beat, his car smashed up, putting his family in danger, running over several bikers and paralyzing one.

again, my point is, i've successfully navigated myself out of EVERY road rage event i've started to become involved in. i don't play that shit, have at it, you want my chunk of road, np, here you go.

oh, and your little quip at the end of your droning diatribe reveals your real view.

Yet you went on and on about how Zimmerman was justified and had no choice but to shoot Martin. Hmmmm....
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I'm on the side of the pedestrian hit by the fuckhead bike messenger riding illegally on the footpath, the side of the cyclist hit by the hoon car driver, i'm on the side of the motorbike rider sideswiped by the careless car driver, I'm on the side of the car driver harassed by the amphetamine addled truck driver, i'm on the side of the suv driver harassed by biker fuckheads. I have no entrenched position except that of defending the victim of mindless hoons that often kill injure and maim innocent people just trying to go about their business.

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the names psycho...and if any of you homos touch my stuff, i'll kill ya...........hahahaha
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I really didn't know Elton John had a line of autographed helmets.
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This is the punk laying in the hospital.....




"Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver?s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner?s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show."
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You've said some funny shit but this is hilarious
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i didnt know motorbikes in groups dont have to follow traffic laws...
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Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.
16 fucking times without license? Never got arrested for this shit?
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maybe if you didn't get your jorts at Kmart you would know more about fashion.....
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Some say this is fashion too. To rest of us its just looks stupid.

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This is the punk laying in the hospital.....




"Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver?s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner?s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show."
Seemed to me that most of the motorcycles involved didn't even have license plates on them...
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This is a bad situation. The bikers are at fault. The driver of the Range Rover is at fault.

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Yet you went on and on about how Zimmerman was justified and had no choice but to shoot Martin. Hmmmm....
i didn't post in any zimmerman threads, so hmmmmmmmmmmm elsewhere. i wouldn't know jack shit about who was justified doing what in that case because it's fucking stupid and has no bearing on me or anything.
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you can try and *gotcha* me all fucking day, go for it, i couldn't give a shit.

nevertheless, anybody who drives had better learn to recognize/speak fuckheads. i had a fuckhead 18 wheeler brake check me at 85mph 2 weeks ago, maybe i should have run him over, he's a fuckhead.

but you obviously think you are too smart/elite to think you need to spot fuckheads. so carry on with your correct way of operating a motor vehicle which includes running over people, hihg-speed chases, putting your family in jeopardy, getting your $50k rig smashed up, getting sued and getting you ass beat. i will instead take driving seriously and know how to avoid confrontation on the highways.




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Don't backtrack like a sly fuck. You clearly and expressly said how "asian suv driver" "should have handled it" By de-escalating it the way you would. That was the whole fucking point of your post, to show how smart you'd have been and how his wife and kid wouldn't have been in that situation if you were driving.

My post explained that whilst you might speak fuckhead, not everyone does and that maintaining his speed and course are obvious responsible actions when surrounded by bikers and therefore is a stupid point to make unless you want to mount an education campaign about the right way to react to fuckheads who think they own the road. If there is an unwritten rule that you take the right lane whenever you see two or more bikers in your rear view then that's something everyone might need to know. Here's a fact, driving at a constant speed in a constant lane isn't ANY kind of escalation of anything.. it's called driving responsibly. It's like saying walking on the sidewalk is escalating a situation when a pack of thugs start running up behind you. There is only a single solitary party to blame for escalating ANYTHING and that's the bikers.

You're mistakenly thinking "asian suv guy" WASN'T giving them all the road they wanted. In his mind he's putting his head down and giving them as much space as they want on either side of him to pass. How is he supposed to know they want the MIDDLE lane???

My closing remark shows my bias against fuckhead revheads on the road, bikers, drag racers, drunk drivers anyone that endangers "civilians" trying to live their lives peacefully without being accosted by pathetic slime.
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If I was in that suv I would do same thing, protecting family is #1, I don't give a fuck who needs to die because of it...
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i didnt know motorbikes in groups dont have to follow traffic laws...
In NYC, they don't have to follow traffic laws. Want to know why? Because the NYPD policy is to NOT attempt to pull over and arrest rogue motorcyclists. They say it is too dangerous and the motorcyclists can evade them by going up on sidewalks and possible injuring or killing others. SO THEY LET THEM GO.

These guys know the police aren't coming after them, and situations like that on Sunday will continue.

I drive my taxi in NYC 3 days a week (I have to log in 130 hours a month to keep my ownership). I've never witnessed anything on the scale of this attack, but roaming gangs of thugs like these are becoming more and more common. Until they are classified as terrorists, the NYPD will let them continue and if Bill de Blasio becomes the next mayor, what happened on Sunday will happen again. Repeatedly.
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Until they are classified as terrorists, the NYPD will let them continue and if Bill de Blasio becomes the next mayor, what happened on Sunday will happen again. Repeatedly.
so there's discussion in the nyc city government to classify groups of motorcyclists as terrorists?
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so there's discussion in the nyc city government to classify groups of motorcyclists as terrorists?
Not that I know of - I was being a little sarcastic in that the NYPD is so focused on terrorism that unless you fit a terrorism profile, you are not a high priority. Kinda like on Sunday. The tail-end of UN week with thousands of police officers providing security for diplomats, while a gang of motorcycle thugs roam free on the West Side highway. It's reported that over 200 phone calls were made during this spree and yet not one police officer saw any of the 6.5 minute chase in broad daylight on a major roadway, or the subsequent beat-down on 178th Street.
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Not that I know of - I was being a little sarcastic in that the NYPD is so focused on terrorism that unless you fit a terrorism profile, you are not a high priority. Kinda like on Sunday. The tail-end of UN week with thousands of police officers providing security for diplomats, while a gang of motorcycle thugs roam free on the West Side highway. It's reported that over 200 phone calls were made during this spree and yet not one police officer saw any of the 6.5 minute chase in broad daylight on a major roadway, or the subsequent beat-down on 178th Street.
oh, i see. i didn't get the regional sarcasm!
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The thing you're clearly not understanding is that most people don't speak fuckhead, so aren't going to know special secret fuckhead rules of how fuckheads think you should act while they're being fuckheads.

My biker friends (not club members, just enthusiasts) basically say they way they ride is to pretend they are invisible, not do anything stupid, signal, be very clear. Based on these conversations if a pack of motorcyclists came up from behind me the logical thing for me to do would be to not change anything in my driving so as to not spook them or do anything a cyclist might find unexpected. If some cunt tried to brake check it would clearly seem completely antagonistic and of course wholly unexpected, I'd just be waiting for them to pass by on the other MULTIPLE lanes. If someone doesn't speak fuckhead how are they supposed to know these animals want to shut down the whole freeway and will harass and brake check people to do it?

You make out like he acted incorrectly, he acted perfectly in the situation and according to the road rules, he might not have known the special secret fuckhead road rules that make a bike gang above the law, that but that's not his fault, it's theirs for not doing a letterbox campaign and informing people of their special rights on the road and how to act around animals. Just like in the wild, most people will freeze (ie continue driving legally exactly as they were) until the "danger" passes. Which is exactly what he did until the fuckhead caused the accident by brake checking him. He was even on the phone reporting their shitty activity, which is confirmed by the rest of the videos of them running red lights and driving on footpaths inches away from pedestrians. I suppose the pedestrians should know how to walk on a footpath too and always be on the lookout for packs of motorfuckheads?

Having been on the receiving end of almost this exact same situation (a fuckhead in a car brake checking and menacing in traffic for miles, to almost complete stops on a freeway - but no vehicular contact) completely blamelessly on my part, the fuckhead thought I beeped him when it was the car next to me beeping the car in front of them for being slow on green at the lights... I have less than zero sympathy for these animals. If I could have shot the motherfucker or rammed him I would have. All the more galling for being completely innocent of the "crime" of beeping someone for being slow on green. We wouldn't have lost anything as a species, just another moron or 'roid head, same as in this case.

The point is, sometimes you can't avoid situations because they aren't of your own making, you are following all the rules to a T and you don't know the fuckhead code and what might set people who think they have special rights off, with a beep, a bad look, slow driving, fast driving, they have their man-rags because their life is so shitty jerking each other off on dirt bikes is all they have etc.
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A pack of hyenas menaced an elephant and got trampled as it fled.. That's the price you pay and the risk you take. Actions have consequences. You can't expect many people to sympathise with the hyenas harassing and menacing people. It's only a relative shame it didn't happen to the brake checker instead who would have deserved less than zero sympathy and possibly a darwin award.
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no, i am clearly understanding. that's why my comment is about how i handle that sort of situation. i didn't state how you would handle it. or baddog, or gfy poster #4 or the asian suv driver or anyone. just me. so i fully understand.

it seems you don't understand, here, i will explain.

1. i never spoke to whether he handled the situation "correctly* or not.

b. i wasn't talking about following rules, i was talking about dealing with what you call fuckheads, i've got enough miles on the road to know when a pack of fuckheads is coming up in my rearview mirror and have the snap to move out of the way. maybe this guy being 30-something range rover owner has yet to figure that out.

* the asskicking he got, the jeopardy he put his family in and the forthcoming lawsuit(s) should learn him real good though.

people think this guy handled it perfectly fine when he ended up getting his ass beat, his car smashed up, putting his family in danger, running over several bikers and paralyzing one.

again, my point is, i've successfully navigated myself out of EVERY road rage event i've started to become involved in. i don't play that shit, have at it, you want my chunk of road, np, here you go.

oh, and your little quip at the end of your droning diatribe reveals your real view.

How the fuck does one "move out of the way" when being swarmed on all sides by bikes zipping back and forth between lanes, on sidewalks, running red lights?

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He ran out there to check on his injured bud? My ass! he ran out there to beat the shit out of SUV driver not to check on some other guy he barely knew.
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This is the punk laying in the hospital.....




"Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driver?s license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learner?s permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show."
If any of that is true; oops.

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i didnt know motorbikes in groups dont have to follow traffic laws...
That's because that would be incorrect . . . they just don't seem to understand.
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How the fuck does one "move out of the way" when being swarmed on all sides by bikes zipping back and forth between lanes, on sidewalks, running red lights?
not sure wtf you're talking about here because i've clarified my view that i were him, i would have seen this coming and have already gotten out of the way before i was swarmed. not only that, do you really think this pack swarmed every fucking car they passed? of course not.

other drivers they blew past or came across successfully navigated themselves out of the situation, this guy didn't. he is responsible for his car and driving, not someone else. him.


fact is, as a driver, i am responsible for getting my family to and from a destination safely. that means avoiding shit like this. to avoid shit like this i pay attention to my surroundings while driving. that's why i've been able to extricate myself from potential road rage situations.
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not only that, do you really think this pack swarmed every fucking car they passed? of course not.
Yes I do
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

The fact is, you refuse to remove your blinders. Has the SUV driver been charged with anything?

And I have to ask, have you EVER driven in NYC? Get out of the way . . . what a joke.

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This is the punk laying in the hospital.....

Here's a before and after picture of the punk. . .

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Yes I do
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

The fact is, you refuse to remove your blinders. Has the SUV driver been charged with anything?

And I have to ask, have you EVER driven in NYC? Get out of the way . . . what a joke.
yes, i've driven in nyc. i travel there often and was there 6 weeks ago. i stay at the roosevelt, recommended, they have a/c in each room!

in the vid, there is plenty of room to change lanes, there are plenty of cars that stop on entrance ramps, etc. so yes, get out of the way, not a joke, it's in the video.

anyhoo, it moot that the suv driver has not been charged. the simple fact is at the end of the day, he got his ass beat, put his family in jeopardy, had his suv smashed, ran over several people and paralyzed one and will be sued, charged with a traffic infraction or not.

i would think any level-headed adult that had this happen to them look at it in hindsight and ask themselves how they could of handled it differently.

the answer to that would be to recognize it before you get involved in it.

again, if i were him, i would have seen the pack coming in my rearview and changed lanes.
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i find it totally absurd that cars are supposed to stop and get out of the way cause a bunch of assholes on their bikes want to play kings of the road - sorry
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i find it totally absurd that cars are supposed to stop and get out of the way cause a bunch of assholes on their bikes want to play kings of the road - sorry
it is absurd. but life sometimes means having to make choices in the face of absurdity.

i get this guy, i do. he was doing right, he was in the center lane, minding his own business, prolly not going too much over the speed limit even. he had every single right to keep doing what he was doing, it's absurd to think otherwise.

that said, his choice of dealing with how to deal with irl absurdity left him beaten, people run over, etc.
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