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Old 09-06-2013, 03:40 PM   #1
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:stop Just in from AVN !!!! New HIV Case detected Moratorium Reinstated !!

http://business.avn.com/articles/vid...ed-528786.html

so what now ?
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isn't this Rod Daily being hiv positive?
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isn't this Rod Daily being hiv positive?
Hope its just late reporting of Rod case
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Hope its just late reporting of Rod case
that's what it sounded like in the xbiz article, but now that i reread it, it can be taken a few different ways

however, if this isn't about Rod Daily, why wouldn't they have released an article like this.. about that?
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that's what it sounded like in the xbiz article, but now that i reread it, it can be taken a few different ways

however, if this isn't about Rod Daily, why wouldn't they have released an article like this.. about that?
Exactly. Fuck I'm confused and scared as ever.
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CANOGA PARK, Calif. — The Free Speech Coalition/PASS was informed by one of its doctors that another performer has tested positive for HIV.

As a result of this news, FSC is calling a moratorium on all production until further notice.

Today's announcement follows a tough summer for the filmmaking community in Porn Valley. After syphilis and hepatitis C scares, HIV became the top news of the day.

On Aug. 22, porn actress Cameron Bay announced via the FSC that she had been infected with HIV. After Bay tested positive, production was shut down for about a week.

Later, Rod Daily announced via social media that he has contracted HIV, making him the second adult film actor to announce a diagnosis with the disease in recent weeks.

Daily made his HIV status public via Twitter, declaring: "Drumroll please!! I'm 32 years old and I'm HIV positive. Acute HIV, which means I recently was infected. For that I am blessed."


The X-Biz article certainly seems to indicate this is a possible 3rd HIV+ case. Besides, the FSC just shrugged when Rod Daily's test came back positive, as if it wasn't their problem, since he did not test at the facility which they have a financial interest in.

Both AVN and X-Biz have done a deplorable job covering this issue, and getting to the bottom of things (too worried about ad revenue from the people represented on the FSC Board?).



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Yes ADG I am also being told that this is a completely different
Performer, not rod or Cameron, but a separate person
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This is not Rod Daily... it's another performer
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Is it a separate person related to Rod and Cameron? Or something totally new?
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Is it a separate person related to Rod and Cameron? Or something totally new?
I was told it was a 3rd person
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Hate to say it, but hopefully this 3rd person is somehow linked to the Cameron situation so it's not an entirely new and separate incident.
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3rd person related to the other case or an unrelated brand new 3rd person?
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Don't worry, it wasn't contracted on set. 3 days would be overkill.
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Yup! This is lame!

This is bad. But what I find interesting most of all, is usually when shit breaks out like this all of the agent (LATATA) usually know who, what when where well before it gets released. So as to generate the quarantine list. as of now, nobody knows shit!


In this situation, nobody knows or has a clue on anything, even the people in the know. Its out and everyone is shocked and dumbfounded.


Got a working theory here. Just a Theory. So don't fry me for it.


With Weinstein, working so hard to shut us down and his personal public War with Congressman Gato, what prevents Weinstein from sending in one of his employees/patients, fellow condom supporter, with HIV from coming into one of our adult testing facilities, signing up for the PASS system and testing?


Think about it. It would way cause a moratorium, it would give Weinstein the amo he needs to run down Congressman Gato and porn.


And if we found out in fact who it is,(and we always seem to find out), and make it public, Weinstein will have the amo to shut down the testing spot for HIPPA violations in regard to patient Dr. confidentiality.



Not knowing and nobody knowing or even having a clue, is what generates my theory. No 1st generation or 2nd generation contacts yet. Not one!! This is what gets done before the press releases get done.

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yes its a new person

diane duke will do a press release saying it wasnt contracted on a porn set in 5.....4.....3.....2....
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Early, early unconfirmed rumors have it as an brand-new, out-of-state girl who arrived here to work and this is her first test.

Again, let me reiterate: this is nothing more than rumor. And it kinda reinforces what Just Dave mentions above.
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Early, early unconfirmed rumors have it as an brand-new, out-of-state girl who arrived here to work and this is her first test.

Again, let me reiterate: this is nothing more than rumor. And it kinda reinforces what Just Dave mentions above.
Didn't everyone initially think/say Cameron was brand new to the industry, too?
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Didn't everyone initially think/say Cameron was brand new to the industry, too?
I dunno. Rumors usually aren't 100% fact...which is why I'll say it again: what I posted is an EARLY RUMOR.
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I dunno. Rumors usually aren't 100% fact...which is why I'll say it again: what I posted is an EARLY RUMOR.
the agencies keep very good track of who does what with who, and when. the agencies also have permission to get test results. if the agencies are surprised, chances are it's a new model, first test. this has happened before in fact... with much the same hysterics and drama....

in fact rumors are pointing to a specific model from a specific 'representative' how-fucking-ever these are early rumors AND not substantiated... as Mr. Watson clearly points out.... just rumors...

my prayers and love go out to anyone this personally affect, regardless....
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Dear FSC/PASS member,

Today, FSC/PASS was informed by one of the doctors affiliated with one of the PASS provider testing facilities that another performer has tested positive for HIV. As a result of this news, FSC is calling a moratorium on all production until further notice.

The criteria for the moratorium are established by the doctors on the medical advisory council which includes Dr. Sean Darcy and Dr. Peter Miao. The doctors are working in concert to do the research and create an accurate 1st and 2nd generational genealogy. They are also ensuring that the performer receives referrals, medical counsel and top quality care.

While we don't have evidence to suggest an on-set transmission as opposed to a transmission from non-industry (off-camera) related activity, we are taking every measure to determine the source and to protect the performer pool. The cost of retests required for generational partners will be covered by FSC/PASS.

It should be noted that the last moratorium was lifted contingent on mandatory retesting after August 19th which exceeded the window period recommended by the PASS medical advisory council.

Dr. Darcy stated, "Because of these precautionary steps, the performer who has now tested positive for HIV had not performed since BEFORE the first moratorium and was prevented from performing due to the required retest. Therefore, no performers were exposed to a new risk of on-set transmission as a result of this latest case, or Ms. Bay's infection."

PASS will supply regular updates on the PASS website at www.FSCPASS.org. Please check the website for daily updates.

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Didn't everyone initially think/say Cameron was brand new to the industry, too?
I've usually shot the AVN newcomer of the year award winner 2 years before they receive the award. what AVN and the media put out sometimes has little relationship to the reality
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Dr Darcy the plastic surgeon?? Really?
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Nope. They are playing by NCAA rules now... so just the first half
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diane duke will do a press release saying it wasnt contracted on a porn set in 5.....4.....3.....2....

Any truth the the rumor that this is another "crossover" couple?
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looks like billy's rumor may be correct. it's on twitter. Girl. Brand new.

If she's brand new and it's unrelated then wow. That's just something else. Lot's of guys here in this thread shoot the new girls.
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Didn't everyone initially think/say Cameron was brand new to the industry, too?
on backroom a long time ago, def not new.
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looks like billy's rumor may be correct. it's on twitter. Girl. Brand new.

If she's brand new and it's unrelated then wow. That's just something else. Lot's of guys here in this thread shoot the new girls.
Its also saying that she has not shot since the last shutdown.
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Its also saying that she has not shot since the last shutdown.


Kind of begs the question, if the FSC knows she is brand new, and tested HIV+, but has not worked with anyone else in the industry yet, then why call a moratorium?

As always, it seems as if there are more questions than answers...



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Dr Darcy the plastic surgeon?? Really?
What no way! No waaaaaaaay!
Still, Dr Miao Is as legit as it gets as far as medical doctors with working historical knowledge of HIV and other STIs and infectious diseases. I would trust what Dr. Miao says to do 1 billion times over anyone else in this "industry" including Sixto Pacheco, who is NOT a dr. and of course Mike South and every other blogger that thinks they are a doctor

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EXACTLY one thing you can take to the bank...the fsc will lie

the other is if this girl was brand new and hadnt shot there wouldnt be a moratorium

The FSC needs ONE fucking person with a brain to help them get their lies right at least
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Dr. Darcy stated, "Because of these precautionary steps, the performer who has now tested positive for HIV had not performed since BEFORE the first moratorium and was prevented from performing due to the required retest. Therefore, no performers were exposed to a new risk of on-set transmission as a result of this latest case, or Ms. Bay's infection."
This can't be a brand new girl, there'd be no need for a moratorium if a new girl in town who'd never done a scene with other performers before showed up and tested positive.
The doctor affirms she's performed before but not since the moratorium. So whomever she worked if they've tried to work since the moratorium have been tested. What's the longest latency period from infection to showing up as positive on the HIV tests the adult industry uses?
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What no way! No waaaaaaaay!
Still, Dr Miao Is as legit as it gets as far as medical doctors with working historical knowledge of HIV and other STIs and infectious diseases. I would trust what Dr. Miao says to do 1 billion times over anyone else in this "industry" including Sixto Pacheco, who is NOT a dr. and of course Mike South and every other blogger that thinks they are a doctor
Yes, and let's all pretend that as the head of CET (Cutting Edge Testing), that Dr Miao has no vested financial interest in any of this.



You set up watchdog groups to oversee others. Things have a way of going wrong when the watchdogs are in charge of overseeing themselves.



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Still, Dr Miao Is as legit as it gets as far as medical doctors with working historical knowledge of HIV and other STIs and infectious diseases. I would trust what Dr. Miao says to do 1 billion times over anyone else in this "industry" including Sixto Pacheco, who is NOT a dr. and of course Mike South and every other blogger that thinks they are a doctor
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Wonder if FSC Board Members get discounts?

I thought that there were three doctors on the PASS panel?



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Just because a girl is new doesn't mean she hasn't worked.

She's doing privates, blowing guys off backpage. They allude to a pool of some sort. Who's that consist of?

There should totally be a moratorium if the girl is brand new.





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This can't be a brand new girl, there'd be no need for a moratorium if a new girl in town who'd never done a scene with other performers before showed up and tested positive.
The doctor affirms she's performed before but not since the moratorium. So whomever she worked if they've tried to work since the moratorium have been tested. What's the longest latency period from infection to showing up as positive on the HIV tests the adult industry uses?
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:51 PM   #43
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Just because a girl is new doesn't mean she hasn't worked.

She's doing privates, blowing guys off backpage. They allude to a pool of some sort. Who's that consist of?

There should totally be a moratorium if the girl is brand new.





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This can't be a brand new girl, there'd be no need for a moratorium if a new girl in town who'd never done a scene with other performers before showed up and tested positive.
The doctor affirms she's performed before but not since the moratorium. So whomever she worked if they've tried to work since the moratorium have been tested. What's the longest latency period from infection to showing up as positive on the HIV tests the adult industry uses?
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #44
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wait till yall learn about CET and "Pooling"

coming on mikesouth.com
No fucking way. They're pooling blood for tests?

Fuck.

As long as the next revelation isn't that they do it like companies for drug testing and test every nth sample.

I hit your site today and the front page reminded me of the time I liked it, before the constant Manwin nagging. You hit home runs when it comes to this stuff and tend to have more details before others.
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Just because a girl is new doesn't mean she hasn't worked.

She's doing privates, blowing guys off backpage. They allude to a pool of some sort. Who's that consist of?

There should totally be a moratorium if the girl is brand new.





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This can't be a brand new girl, there'd be no need for a moratorium if a new girl in town who'd never done a scene with other performers before showed up and tested positive.
The doctor affirms she's performed before but not since the moratorium. So whomever she worked if they've tried to work since the moratorium have been tested. What's the longest latency period from infection to showing up as positive on the HIV tests the adult industry uses?
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I dunno. Rumors usually aren't 100% fact...which is why I'll say it again: what I posted is an EARLY RUMOR.
I get it. My post was more me thinking out loud (with my conspiracy theory hat on) wondering if that is what they always try to go with in hopes that people (and the media) don't run too far with it.

Seems like every time there is news about an STI, it starts with it being "someone new" and only later everyone finds out they actually have 45 scenes under their belt.
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She's doing privates, blowing guys off backpage. They allude to a pool of some sort. Who's that consist of?

There should totally be a moratorium if the girl is brand new.
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She's doing privates, blowing guys off backpage. They allude to a pool of some sort. Who's that consist of?

There should totally be a moratorium if the girl is brand new.
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Just because a girl is new doesn't mean she hasn't worked.

She's doing privates, blowing guys off backpage. They allude to a pool of some sort. Who's that consist of?

There should totally be a moratorium if the girl is brand new.


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http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...s-quarantined/

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The identity of the third infected porn star remains unknown right now, but an industry insider exclusively tells Radar, ?A dozen female performers have been quarantined as a result of exposure.?

The insider also claims the unnamed actor worked for major studios and the positive HIV test was reported by a PASS-affiliated [Performer Availability Screening Services] doctor.

?It?s deplorable that the people running the FSC and the production companies would let performers still work in light of this crisis,? a second industry expert tells Radar.

?The owners and lobby groups are all self-serving, and have money to lose if the actors are forced to use condoms.

?But the performers have more to lose?including their sexual health and lives.?

Industry performers are outraged and understandably scared, as production continues to roll.

?People are still shooting in Los Angeles county as well as Vegas and in Florida,? the insider revealed.
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What no way! No waaaaaaaay!
Still, Dr Miao Is as legit as it gets as far as medical doctors with working historical knowledge of HIV and other STIs and infectious diseases. I would trust what Dr. Miao says to do 1 billion times over anyone else in this "industry" including Sixto Pacheco, who is NOT a dr. and of course Mike South and every other blogger that thinks they are a doctor
See, I actually doubt the integrity of any doctor that would stake his reputation on providing routine testing as a formidable defense to acquiring an ultimately deadly STI.
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