BFT3K

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QU961SGps8g

bronco67

The biggest problem with the controlled demolition theory nutjobs (among many ) is the fact that there's no way to be discreet about wiring a building to implode. The one thing they overlooked when coming up with their stupid half baked bullshit is finding out a little knowledge on controlled demolition. The twin towers were 6 times more square footage than the biggest job on record, and would take an army of CD experts, miles of wiring and tons of drilling equipment working in one of the busiest sites in Manhattan -- FOR MONTHS. These experts would have to be willing to kill possibly thousands of Americans -- then they'd all have to keep it secret. Then the "fake" jets are flown into the building and the remote detonation of the charges coincides perfectly with everything --- it's ridiculous and impossible. End of story.

And this was all pulled off by and kept under wraps to this day by members of the Bush administration -- who weren't able to cover up something as simple as a lie about WMD's in Iraq.

It's the dumbest theory that exists about anything and I can't believe so many people give this shit the time of day.

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Even most of the official story folk admit that WTC7 was a controlled demo

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Nice indeed

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Rochard

So I'm watching this.... And what the fuck kind of bullshit is this?

12:45 some fuck tard is talking about "how people crossed from point a to point b past the thickest of the fire". He doesn't tell us where point a is or where point b is, or where the thickest of the fire was. Nor does he tell us which tower this was in or WHEN.

And this is most typical of this bullshit - no facts, let's just put doubt in your mind.

Maybe they crossed before the fire was thick there? Maybe they passed on the other side of the building where the fire wasn't as thick?

I'm just getting warmed up.

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Rochard

13:30: The temperture of the fire in the building was not particularly high as evidenced by this woman standing on the ledge.

Fucktards - it was so fucking hot people were fucking jumping out of windows that were 70 stories to escape the heat.

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Rochard

14:16: Someone from the Underwriters company was fired from his job because he didn't believe the report was correct.

You think? Everyone else at the company believed it, but only one person did not. He didn't get fired because he uncovered some secret conspiracy, but he got fired because he didn't agree with everyone else. No one else at the company got fired.

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Dirty F

Imagine how extremely low the IQ of the topic started must be to consider this idiotic nonsense a great movie.

Rochard

15:16: They (meaning the govenment) did tests on remaining samples that proved the tempertures were very low.

Great. We dont' know what the tempertures. There was jet fuel involved, that much is sure. But we didn't need to melt steel - all we needed to do was bend it enough until it snapped. Combined with the missing steel supports taken out... Bingo, building fell.

Surprise!

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18:48: Dario Fo, NOBEL PRIZE WINNER, talks about WTC7. So clearly he's fucking qualified to speak the truth, RIGHT?

Because clearly the 1997 Nobel Prize in Literature is qualified to discussing engineering and buildings collapsing.

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Rochard

19:52: When WTC7 fell, how come it fell at freefall speeds?

Because it fell and when things fall straight they fall quickly?

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Rochard

20:10: Molten Metal?

There were fires that went on for weeks.... Why would this surprise anyone?

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Dirty F

Obviously. Now you understand what makes it a great movie.

Rochard

20:21: "There is molten metal that we have studied at length"....

Who studied it? Who is "we"?

I don't know what that is. Looks like something on fire dripping. Might be metal, might be copper wire.

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wehateporn

Every floor would have to break at exactly the right time, otherwise you end up with a situation like this

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Rochard

21:01: The tempertures at the fire could have been only 800 degrees at the most.

Um, you said earlier "not partically hot". Which was it?

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Rochard

But you are assuming there is any floors at all. With WTC7 a good portion of the building was hollow - the first five or six floors were the lobby, similar to the other towers. The lobbies were fucking huge and tall.

You are also looking at WTC7 that looks undamaged. It wasn't.

It fell in stages:



You saw what was left of the outer shell. Doesn't seem there was much left inside the building itself.

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Rochard

That was classic really. He's a nobel prize winner so he must be fucking smart, right?

Sure thing.

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Rochard

21:32: "We have detected a chemical that should not be there, sulfur."

Oh my god, that's it - proof positive. I mean, they found sulfur in the debris. I mean, it's not like they don't use sulfur in concrete, RIGHT?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur_concrete

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Rochard

This shit gets better and better.

At 22:19 they are talking about Thermite. They didn't say they found thermite. They are saying instead that they found sulfur (which shouldn't be there even thought it's used in concrete), and sulfur is one of four chemcials found in Thermite.... Which is proof positive that someone MUST have used Thermite to take down the buildings.

I guess we'll have to set aside the fact that thermite is used to cut and weld steel, and they didn't have to do that when building a fucking skyscraper. Sheep. They used Thermite to cut every fucking piece of steel in the towers.

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Dirty F

The worst part is that the topic starter comes up with the same stuff that has been debunked about 12 years ago.
Did i already mention how incredibly low his IQ must be?

pimpmaster9000

heres how the meeting went:

bush: lets conspire!

illuminati lizard: yessssssssss

bush: lets not do something easy and to the point, like blowing up a soft target like a school and scoring 10000000000x more sympathy points...lets go full retard and do a complicated multi plane multi building plan that involves 1000-s upon 1000-s of variables...

illuminati lizard: yessssssssss lets do it the hard way!

bush: also lets bomb our own shit! lets hit the pentagon and WTC! lets really go full retard on our own conspiracy!

illuminati lizard: yessssssssss but afterwards lets invade a place we already invaded so we totally waste this wild card on a shit move like "lets invade saddam again"

bush: genius! lets totally do everything wrong!

illuminati lizard: yesssssssss we really have nothing better to do....




stupid conspiracy fuckers LOL it must be a great place inside your heads LOL

BFT3K

Think for yourselves.

Watch it all the way through without the pro-government nut jobs cherry picking pieces they pretend to misunderstand.

Watch it all the way through with an open mind, and then return with comments.

The people who wish to defend the government's absurd story here, are the true nutters.

bronco67

It's a vicious cycle, because the mental midget has no way knowing they're retarded. It'll just keep going and going. These fuckers are starting to resemble a plague, with their false flag bullshit every time something happens.

I don't think there's more idiots out there who believe this crap --- it's just that the idiots are the only ones yelling their beliefs.

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Rochard

I get fired up about this 9/11 shit. It's just so obvious that two planes crashed into two large towers and that's why they fell that's it's silly. Common sense tells you if you ram a large jet airliner full of jet fuel into a skyscraper it's going to fall. You can have discussions about what temp steel melts at but it's already irrelevant - When a large percentage of the steel is physically removed from the structure the building has no support; Combined with fire it will eventually fall.

WTC7? Two large freaking towers fell on it AND the resulting mini earthquake.... Plus a fire!

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dyna mo

i made it to 1:59 seconds, when he says bin laden has not been connected to 9/11,
no sense in going on after that.

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I can't wait for the next false flag operation to destroy the new Trade Center tower.

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MaDalton

have a link?

i would like to see how an official government member admits that...

or anyone who personally worked on wiring the building

or anyone who knows someone personally who was directly involved in this

i mean - since there must have been like 10,000+ people involved there surely must be someone, right?

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wehateporn

Why would you need 10,000 people involved?

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ah, i forgot, it's an easy task for a single person to drill a few thousand holes in 3 WTC buildings and fill them with explosives while making 4 planes disappear, launch a rocket into the Pentagon and so on...

btw - where's the link for the official statement?

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dyna mo

that was a classic and well-executed dodge&deflect.

xholly

there was 4 mexicans involved, but they got paid a shit load of overtime. They also used fireproof explosives so the fires wouldnt set them off till the time was right. Its fucking obvious you sheep

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Sly

Well gosh, if it's easy to train a couple guys to hijack a plane and crash it into a building, obviously it's far easier to rig multiple "controlled" demolitions in downtown New York City, arguably one of the busiest cities in the world.

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Watch a few minutes starting at around 1:06, just for fun.

bronco67

haha that's the problem with these kooks. They never take the time to educate themselves a little about their subject. Demolition of a building(especially 2 of that size) requires unfettered access for an extended period. The world trade center site is what you would definitely call "fettered".

They seem to think a few ninjas can throw a few bombs under some desks while workers are at the water coolers.

The demolition of the twin towers would be the most massive CD project ever undertaken. Just one of the buildings would be.

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Rochard

But that's the best part... The obvious (a plane causing a tower to fall) is too easy for them to understand, while the impossible (a team of thirty people spending two months wiring up a skyscraper to collapse without fifty thousand people noticing) is the obvious answer.

Never mind they still haven't come up with a valid reason anyone would want to take the towers down.

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The possible reasons are endless...

- A gigantic insurance payout for buildings that were in need of countless millions in asbestos removal and renovations.

- An excuse to implement the Patriot Act, written well in advance of 9/11.

- War profiteering out the wazoo.

- An excuse to take out Saddam and grab Iraqi oil.

- Justification for all sorts of classified decisions behind closed doors.

- Evidence destruction from previous crimes and thefts.

- Any and all of the above, plus so many others.

Seriously, no justification, and that's your reason to accept the government's official story without question?

BFT3K

From the following piece on 9/11...

I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government, our country, and our way of life. To be charged with questioning these foundations is far more serious than being labeled a disgruntled conspiracy nut or anti-government traitor, or even being sidelined or marginalized within an academic, government service, or literary career. To question the official 9/11 story is simply and fundamentally revolutionary. In this way, of course, questioning the official story is also simply and fundamentally American.

Several months after 9/11, famed news anchor Dan Rather told the BBC that American reporters were practicing ?a form of self-censorship?

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dyna mo

it's not a reporter's job to report their own insights. it's shit like that that causes issue. report the news, go home. i don't want your twitter info, i don't want to know what you think about this that or the other.

report the news.

BFT3K

A robot reports the news - the same news on all channels.

TelePrompTers does not a journalist make.

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Also from the piece I linked above...


As Tom Brokaw notes:

All wars are based on propaganda.

What Does Ellsberg Say?

Ellsberg says that the government has ordered the media not to cover 9/11:

Ellsberg seemed hardly surprised that today’s American mainstream broadcast media has so far failed to take [former FBI translator and 9/11 whistleblower Sibel] Edmonds up on her offer, despite the blockbuster nature of her allegations [which Ellsberg calls "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers"].

As Edmonds has also alluded, Ellsberg pointed to the New York Times, who “sat on the NSA spying story for over a year” when they “could have put it out before the 2004 election, which might have changed the outcome.”

“There will be phone calls going out to the media saying ‘don’t even think of touching it, you will be prosecuted for violating national security,’” he told us.

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Is a journalist only a journalist when they journal what you want to read?

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dyna mo

journalism is much different than reporting.


facts are facts and should be the same facts across all news channels, there are other parts of the news where interpretation comes in. that should be done by qualified sources and again, their personal perspective is generally not required, unless they have qualified information from being in the shit themselves.

just like i don't need an actor to tell me what they think about gun control or syria,etc, i don't need joe schmoe reporter offering his perspective on something he is more than likely not familiar with.