Official: Charges coming in Trayvon Martin death

[brassmonkey]

lets see what happens

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) ? A special prosecutor has confirmed that there will be a 6 p.m. news conference regarding the investigation of the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

State Attorney Angela Corey says she will release new information on the case but didn't elaborate.

Her announcement came not long after another law enforcement official said that charges are being filed against George Zimmerman, who shot Trayvon.

The official with knowledge of the investigation says Zimmerman's arrest is also expected soon.

The official didn't know the charge and spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information. The official said that authorities know where Zimmerman is.

Zimmerman has asserted since the Feb. 26 killing that he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense after the two fought. The case has sparked protests and calls for Zimmerman's arrest.

[bronco67]

good luck finding George Zimmerman.

Can you imagine the rough time this guy will have in jail? There's a lot of brothers in jail, and when they're not pumping iron, they watch a lot of TV. He's going to have a bullseye on his back.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by bronco67

good luck finding George Zimmerman.

Can you imagine the rough time this guy will have in jail? There's a lot of brothers in jail, and when they're not pumping iron, they watch a lot of TV. He's going to have a bullseye on his back.

He'll get what he created for him self

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by bronco67

good luck finding George Zimmerman.

Can you imagine the rough time this guy will have in jail? There's a lot of brothers in jail, and when they're not pumping iron, they watch a lot of TV. He's going to have a bullseye on his back.

[DarkJedi]

Originally Posted by bronco67

good luck finding George Zimmerman.

Can you imagine the rough time this guy will have in jail? There's a lot of brothers in jail, and when they're not pumping iron, they watch a lot of TV. He's going to have a bullseye on his back.

There is also a batshit crazy Aryan Brotherhood and the big Cholos presence, who I suppose would back him up.

[Choopa_Pardo]

this trial will be dragged out for months, I bet, and if Zimmerman is sentenced he probably won't be put in the general population due to the profile of the case.

[DarkJedi]

Good luck getting a conviction, though.

This is all theater. They know they may as well try to get him for "littering" (i.e. leaving a dead nog around).

He will be acquitted.

Justice por Jorge.
Viva la raza

[brassmonkey]

he doesn't even need to go to prison. jail is far enough

[brassmonkey]

oaktown is getting in it http://blog.sfgate.com/inoakland/201...n-martin-case/ wonder if a warrant will be put out today

[Phoenix]

george zimmerman deserves to be charged with murder.
im sure he didnt plan on going out and shooting any young kids that night, however he did. He is an idiot, who has no business being around a firearm, let alone in a position of authority( neighbourhood watch...lol)

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

oaktown is getting in it http://blog.sfgate.com/inoakland/201...n-martin-case/ wonder if a warrant will be put out today

Thirty assholes in Oakland block traffic? The power elite trembles.

[sperbonzo]

Here is an interesting take on this, and how the Media, in some cases, had completely lied about the circumstances of this case...

http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-i-called...inglepage=true

"On March 17, I thought I had it all figured out. I wrote a post on my blog in which I pronounced America?s most famous neighborhood watch captain guilty:


How naive that post now seems. The narrative created by the media at that time was one of an innocent life taken for no reason at all, by a much older, heavier, and racist man itching for a confrontation.

That was before we found out there was only one gunshot and no coup de grâce. That was before we found out that George Zimmerman had not deluged the local police with 46 paranoid 911 calls in one year, but 46 calls over a period of eight years, which isn?t unreasonable for a community watch volunteer. The media had either lied about how often he called, or purposefully compressed the timeline.

That was before we learned that Zimmerman didn?t know Martin?s race when he made the call, and that race didn?t play a roll in any of the 911 calls the local police had on file.

That was before we discovered that George Zimmerman wasn?t the 240-plus pound bruiser in the five-year-old picture the media used as much as possible, but was listed at a much smaller 170 pounds by none other than the New York Times. That?s a nominal 20 pounds heavier than a teen that stood four inches over him.

That was before we found out that two eyewitnesses placed Martin on top of Zimmerman as the aggressor, and that at least one of them claims it was Zimmerman crying for help.

That was before ABC News attempted to claim police surveillance video disproved Zimmerman?s claim of being injured in what may have been a purposeful deception. The very same news organization was forced to later admit the presence of two lacerations on the back of George Zimmerman?s skull consistent with his claim of self-defense. In the end, details of the beating Zimmerman suffered at Trayvon Martin?s hands were only given a brief mention in the local news.

That was before NBC News was forced to fire a senior producer for selectively editing audio of Zimmerman?s 911 call in a deliberate effort to make him sound racist.

And of course, almost no one knows that on the night he took Trayvon Martin?s life, George Zimmerman willingly consented to take a voice stress analyzer test, a kind of lie detector test used by the Sanford police. He passed it.

The narrative has changed in the wake of new details, eyewitnesses, and embarrassing retreats. The actual story may in fact have been a textbook example of the proper use of deadly force.

The revised narrative is that George Zimmerman wasn?t even actively volunteering as a neighborhood watchman, but was in the process of going to the store when he happened to see a hoodie-covered figure acting oddly in the rain, in a way that Zimmerman apparently interpreted as a burglar ?casing? the gated community. He called 911 and kept the dispatcher apprised of his current position as best he could, in order to try to bring the police to the scene so that they could talk with the suspicious figure. It wasn?t until partway through the call that Zimmerman was able to tell the dispatcher that he thought the suspect may be black, in a direct answer to the dispatcher?s question about the suspect?s race.

During the course of the 911 call, the dispatcher asks several times for an exact street address, which an apparently frustrated Zimmerman is unable to provide. At one point, Martin notices Zimmerman shadowing him, and disappears between buildings.

Zimmerman chooses to leave his vehicle, either to track Martin or get a street address of Martin?s current location for the responding officers. At this point, Zimmerman is no longer on the phone with the 911 operator. Trayvon Martin is allegedly on the phone with his girlfriend, right up until when the physical confrontation apparently takes place.

By piecing together the 911 call and the series of events as alleged by Martin?s still anonymous girlfriend, we can see that a man is following a teenager, and the teenager notices he is being followed. We see Zimmerman?s apparent frustration at being unable to get the police guided to the suspect ? his frustrated cry of ?these assholes always get away? ? and see two reasons Zimmerman would have left the car after first telling the dispatcher he didn?t want to because he didn?t know where Martin was at the time.

It is at this point that the confrontation between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman takes place. We have no living witnesses to the start of the confrontation, other than Mr. Zimmerman. He claims Trayvon Martin assaulted him by punching him in the face (breaking his nose), and then jumped on top of him and started pounding his head into the the pavement.

At this point, apparently two witnesses responded to cries for help. One witness, named ?John,? identified the man on the bottom wearing red (George Zimmerman) as the person crying for help in 911 calls as the other person (Trayvon Martin) was on top of him. ?John? moved to get a better view out another window when he heard the gunshot and then saw Martin on the ground.

A second eyewitness also identified George Zimmerman as the man on the ground crying for help.

Not one witness had a start-to-finish view of the confrontation, and even if they did, eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate. But when the various aspects of the case are weaved together from what is publicly known, a more plausible and tighter narrative seems to coalesce.

Shortly after getting off the phone with the 911 dispatcher, George Zimmerman left his vehicle. He and Trayvon Martin engaged in some sort of a conversation, which is agreed upon (in a larger context) by both Martin?s girlfriend, who was on the phone with him at the time, and Zimmerman?s account.

At that point, the call between Martin and his girlfriend terminated, and her testimony is of no further value.

Zimmerman alleges that Martin punched him in the face, breaking his nose and knocking him down with one punch. Basic forensic details, such as the grass stains on Zimmerman?s back and the injuries to his face reported by police and the resulting swelling and bruising reported by the neighbor the next day, make this at least plausible.

Zimmerman claims that Martin then jumped on top of him and began bashing his head against the sidewalk, and he began crying for help. Again, this part of Zimmerman?s story is at least partially corroborated by the eyewitness testimony, police reports, the enhanced police department video that shows two substantial lacerations on the back of Zimmerman?s head, and the reported bandages and swelling the neighbor confirmed the next day.

Zimmerman claims that Martin then saw and went for his gun. There were no eyewitnesses to this portion of the confrontation, and the next eyewitness view (from ?John?) tells us what we already know: George Zimmerman fired a single shot from a 9mm pistol that hit Trayvon Martin, killing him. The rest of the actions from this point on are contained in police reports, but the confrontation was over, and Trayvon Martin lay dead or dying.

The Sanford police are being heavily condemned for mismanaging the investigation, but they did manage to do two things that may shed light on the whole story. They managed to get Zimmerman to the police station, where video surveillance confirmed his head injuries, and Zimmerman passed the voice stress analyzer they administered, which suggests he believes the story he gave to police.

When all these publicly known bits of evidence are combined, it suggests that a series of miscalculations and escalations by both men led to Trayvon Martin?s death.

George Zimmerman used questionable judgment in leaving his vehicle. But if the evidence and testimony publicly known are to be believed, it was an angry young Trayvon Martin who committed the first crime of the evening when he threw a punch that knocked George Zimmerman down. At this point, Trayvon Martin became the aggressor.

Eyewitnesses and forensics suggest that Martin continued his assault, escalating it to assault with a deadly weapon when he began trying to smash Zimmerman?s skull on the pavement. If this is accurate, and Zimmerman was on his back crying for help while Martin pressed his attack, then Zimmerman had reason to believe he was under the threat of serious injury, maiming, or death at the hands of Trayvon Martin.

At that moment, in reasonable fear for his life, and apparently after a struggle for his gun if Zimmerman?s lie detector-cleared testimony can be believed, he fired a single shot at Trayvon Martin.

Ultimately, the forensics the public has not seen may be the ultimate arbiter of truth. If the ballistic trajectory is consistent with Zimmerman?s story, then Trayvon Martin was killed in a textbook case of self-defense. Florida?s ?stand your ground? law is utterly immaterial and Zimmerman committed no crime whatsoever.

"

[arock10]

oh daaaamn. but yea this should be played out in court where he can prove his innocence. or not

[brassmonkey]

make your own post im not interviewing you

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Here is an interesting take on this, and how the Media, in some cases, had completely lied about the circumstances of this case...

http://pjmedia.com/blog/why-i-called...inglepage=true

"On March 17, I thought I had it all figured out. I wrote a post on my blog in which I pronounced America?s most famous neighborhood watch captain guilty:


How naive that post now seems. The narrative created by the media at that time was one of an innocent life taken for no reason at all, by a much older, heavier, and racist man itching for a confrontation.

That was before we found out there was only one gunshot and no coup de grâce. That was before we found out that George Zimmerman had not deluged the local police with 46 paranoid 911 calls in one year, but 46 calls over a period of eight years, which isn?t unreasonable for a community watch volunteer. The media had either lied about how often he called, or purposefully compressed the timeline.

That was before we learned that Zimmerman didn?t know Martin?s race when he made the call, and that race didn?t play a roll in any of the 911 calls the local police had on file.

That was before we discovered that George Zimmerman wasn?t the 240-plus pound bruiser in the five-year-old picture the media used as much as possible, but was listed at a much smaller 170 pounds by none other than the New York Times. That?s a nominal 20 pounds heavier than a teen that stood four inches over him.

That was before we found out that two eyewitnesses placed Martin on top of Zimmerman as the aggressor, and that at least one of them claims it was Zimmerman crying for help.

That was before ABC News attempted to claim police surveillance video disproved Zimmerman?s claim of being injured in what may have been a purposeful deception. The very same news organization was forced to later admit the presence of two lacerations on the back of George Zimmerman?s skull consistent with his claim of self-defense. In the end, details of the beating Zimmerman suffered at Trayvon Martin?s hands were only given a brief mention in the local news.

That was before NBC News was forced to fire a senior producer for selectively editing audio of Zimmerman?s 911 call in a deliberate effort to make him sound racist.

And of course, almost no one knows that on the night he took Trayvon Martin?s life, George Zimmerman willingly consented to take a voice stress analyzer test, a kind of lie detector test used by the Sanford police. He passed it.

The narrative has changed in the wake of new details, eyewitnesses, and embarrassing retreats. The actual story may in fact have been a textbook example of the proper use of deadly force.

The revised narrative is that George Zimmerman wasn?t even actively volunteering as a neighborhood watchman, but was in the process of going to the store when he happened to see a hoodie-covered figure acting oddly in the rain, in a way that Zimmerman apparently interpreted as a burglar ?casing? the gated community. He called 911 and kept the dispatcher apprised of his current position as best he could, in order to try to bring the police to the scene so that they could talk with the suspicious figure. It wasn?t until partway through the call that Zimmerman was able to tell the dispatcher that he thought the suspect may be black, in a direct answer to the dispatcher?s question about the suspect?s race.

During the course of the 911 call, the dispatcher asks several times for an exact street address, which an apparently frustrated Zimmerman is unable to provide. At one point, Martin notices Zimmerman shadowing him, and disappears between buildings.

Zimmerman chooses to leave his vehicle, either to track Martin or get a street address of Martin?s current location for the responding officers. At this point, Zimmerman is no longer on the phone with the 911 operator. Trayvon Martin is allegedly on the phone with his girlfriend, right up until when the physical confrontation apparently takes place.

By piecing together the 911 call and the series of events as alleged by Martin?s still anonymous girlfriend, we can see that a man is following a teenager, and the teenager notices he is being followed. We see Zimmerman?s apparent frustration at being unable to get the police guided to the suspect ? his frustrated cry of ?these assholes always get away? ? and see two reasons Zimmerman would have left the car after first telling the dispatcher he didn?t want to because he didn?t know where Martin was at the time.

It is at this point that the confrontation between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman takes place. We have no living witnesses to the start of the confrontation, other than Mr. Zimmerman. He claims Trayvon Martin assaulted him by punching him in the face (breaking his nose), and then jumped on top of him and started pounding his head into the the pavement.

At this point, apparently two witnesses responded to cries for help. One witness, named ?John,? identified the man on the bottom wearing red (George Zimmerman) as the person crying for help in 911 calls as the other person (Trayvon Martin) was on top of him. ?John? moved to get a better view out another window when he heard the gunshot and then saw Martin on the ground.

A second eyewitness also identified George Zimmerman as the man on the ground crying for help.

Not one witness had a start-to-finish view of the confrontation, and even if they did, eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate. But when the various aspects of the case are weaved together from what is publicly known, a more plausible and tighter narrative seems to coalesce.

Shortly after getting off the phone with the 911 dispatcher, George Zimmerman left his vehicle. He and Trayvon Martin engaged in some sort of a conversation, which is agreed upon (in a larger context) by both Martin?s girlfriend, who was on the phone with him at the time, and Zimmerman?s account.

At that point, the call between Martin and his girlfriend terminated, and her testimony is of no further value.

Zimmerman alleges that Martin punched him in the face, breaking his nose and knocking him down with one punch. Basic forensic details, such as the grass stains on Zimmerman?s back and the injuries to his face reported by police and the resulting swelling and bruising reported by the neighbor the next day, make this at least plausible.

Zimmerman claims that Martin then jumped on top of him and began bashing his head against the sidewalk, and he began crying for help. Again, this part of Zimmerman?s story is at least partially corroborated by the eyewitness testimony, police reports, the enhanced police department video that shows two substantial lacerations on the back of Zimmerman?s head, and the reported bandages and swelling the neighbor confirmed the next day.

Zimmerman claims that Martin then saw and went for his gun. There were no eyewitnesses to this portion of the confrontation, and the next eyewitness view (from ?John?) tells us what we already know: George Zimmerman fired a single shot from a 9mm pistol that hit Trayvon Martin, killing him. The rest of the actions from this point on are contained in police reports, but the confrontation was over, and Trayvon Martin lay dead or dying.

The Sanford police are being heavily condemned for mismanaging the investigation, but they did manage to do two things that may shed light on the whole story. They managed to get Zimmerman to the police station, where video surveillance confirmed his head injuries, and Zimmerman passed the voice stress analyzer they administered, which suggests he believes the story he gave to police.

When all these publicly known bits of evidence are combined, it suggests that a series of miscalculations and escalations by both men led to Trayvon Martin?s death.

George Zimmerman used questionable judgment in leaving his vehicle. But if the evidence and testimony publicly known are to be believed, it was an angry young Trayvon Martin who committed the first crime of the evening when he threw a punch that knocked George Zimmerman down. At this point, Trayvon Martin became the aggressor.

Eyewitnesses and forensics suggest that Martin continued his assault, escalating it to assault with a deadly weapon when he began trying to smash Zimmerman?s skull on the pavement. If this is accurate, and Zimmerman was on his back crying for help while Martin pressed his attack, then Zimmerman had reason to believe he was under the threat of serious injury, maiming, or death at the hands of Trayvon Martin.

At that moment, in reasonable fear for his life, and apparently after a struggle for his gun if Zimmerman?s lie detector-cleared testimony can be believed, he fired a single shot at Trayvon Martin.

Ultimately, the forensics the public has not seen may be the ultimate arbiter of truth. If the ballistic trajectory is consistent with Zimmerman?s story, then Trayvon Martin was killed in a textbook case of self-defense. Florida?s ?stand your ground? law is utterly immaterial and Zimmerman committed no crime whatsoever.

"

[devilspost]

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by devilspost

hold that rope tight

[Young]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Here is an interesting take on this, and how the Media, in some cases, had completely lied about the circumstances of this case...

PJ Media

Mind as well be a Fox News clip.

[vdbucks]

You know... I really try to stay out of topics that are fueled by racism because at the end of the day, everyone always want to play the fucking race card... but i have to say this...

Why is it every time a black person just happens to be killed by a white person, everyone wants to up and start some loud fucking moronic protest?

For fucks sake, there's FAR more black on black crime than there is white on black crime so why aren't you all rioting and shit about that?

If the guy is actually guilty of the crime then so be it... but that is what a fucking court of law is for... and if he's found guilty then off to jail he goes. If he's not found guilty (or not charged), then everyone else needs to shut the fuck up and stop trying to throw the fucking race card up every time something happens.

I swear to whatever nonexistent god you believe in that the most racist people in the US aren't fucking white.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

You know... I really try to stay out of topics that are fueled by racism because at the end of the day, everyone always want to play the fucking race card... but i have to say this...

Why is it every time a black person just happens to be killed by a white person, everyone wants to up and start some loud fucking moronic protest?

For fucks sake, there's FAR more black on black crime than there is white on black so why are you all rioting and shit about that?

If the guy is actually guilty of the crime then so be it... but that is what a fucking court of law is for... and if he's found guilty then off to jail he goes. If he's not found guilty (or not charged), then everyone else needs to shut the fuck up and stop trying to throw the fucking race card up every time something happens.

I swear to whatever nonexistent god you believe in that the most racist people in the US aren't fucking white.

this is fueled by his family. they want the guy in jail and what does black on black crime have to do with this case?? let's wait 2 and a half hours or so we'll have more details.

[Young]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

Why is it every time a black person just happens to be killed by a white person, everyone wants to up and start some loud fucking moronic protest?

Because White kids in hoodies don't get profiled, followed, and shot to death.

Originally Posted by vdbucks

I swear to whatever nonexistent god you believe in that the most racist people in the US aren't fucking white.

Black on white crime and black on black crime is usually the result of opportunity and circumstance....not race. In order to accept that we would have to have a conversation about poverty, inherent discrimination, and other shit way over your head.

BTW - you played the race card. Hypocrite

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

make your own post im not interviewing you

Not much you can say to that, is there? I would suggest playing the race card or ranting some "but he had Skittles!" nonsense.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

make your own post im not interviewing you

. fair enough!




.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Not much you can say to that, is there? I would suggest playing the race card or ranting some "but he had Skittles!" nonsense.

we know how you feel about race. its not my fight its his families.

[Young]

I'm a young portuguese guy who with a tan can be mistaken for someone who is of mixed race.

I stepped out of a pharmacy the other day in a hoodie, got into my white CLS63 AMG, and was followed by a cop (who was at one point parked) out of the parking lot and a mile down the road.

So what you say?

I received a text message from a friend (freelance photog who monitors the emergency frequencies) that a dispatcher was reading my info over the police radio. He wanted to know if I had been pulled over. The cop had run my plate for absolutely no other reason than having a hoodie on, not appearing 100% white, and getting into the car i got into. She obviously couldn't do shit because I was 100% legit and violated no laws.

This shit happens. So excuse me for being sympathetic to Treyvon and his family's cause.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we know how you feel about race. its not my fight its his families.

Have I ever told you much I like your avatar?

[Choopa_Pardo]

That's good though, because when you shoot and kill someone for reasons other than defending your own life you should probably get in trouble for it.

[Rochard]

He's the facts: He shot the kid dead.

That's it. There's no doubt in anyone's mind that he shot the kid. He needs to prove he was defending himself, which he cannot do. The kid was armed with a bag of fucking skittles. That's it.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

But if the evidence and testimony publicly known are to be believed, it was an angry young Trayvon Martin who committed the first crime of the evening when he threw a punch that knocked George Zimmerman down. At this point, Trayvon Martin became the aggressor.

You mean I can't come back to beat someone to death that was looking at me? Even after he stops following me and returns to his vehicle?

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Young

I'm a young portuguese guy who with a tan can be mistaken for someone who is of mixed race.

I stepped out of a pharmacy the other day in a hoodie, got into my white CLS63 AMG, and was followed by a cop (who was at one point parked) out of the parking lot and a mile down the road.

So what you say?

I received a text message from a friend (freelance photog who monitors the emergency frequencies) that a dispatcher was reading my info over the police radio. He wanted to know if I had been pulled over. The cop had run my plate for absolutely no other reason than having a hoodie on, not appearing 100% white, and getting into the car i got into. She obviously couldn't do shit because I was 100% legit and violated no laws.

This shit happens. So excuse me for being sympathetic to Treyvon and his family's cause.

Yes it happens everyday, and we all know why.
Just like when I was on a Subway I didn't sit beside or look at the Skin Heads up to no good.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by Rochard

He needs to prove he was defending himself, which he cannot do.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

this is fueled by his family. they want the guy in jail and what does black on black crime have to do with this case?? let's wait 2 and a half hours or so we'll have more details.

Because these "outrages" happen damn near every time a white person kills a black person. If they're so outraged by it then why aren't they outraged by their own crimes against each other?

Originally Posted by Young

Because White kids in hoodies don't get profiled, followed, and shot to death.

From the sound of it, he wasn't even sure that the kid was black... hence the "I think" part of his answer to the police. But then, I guess no one should report suspicious behavior now right? because god forbid the person being reported just happened to be black. And hate to burst your bubble but if the kid was white, he still would have reported it to the police because he was... ahem... unsure. "I think he's black" after being asked by the dispatch officer isn't racial profiling moron.

Originally Posted by Young

Black on white crime and black on black crime is usually the result of opportunity and circumstance....not race. In order to accept that we would have to have a conversation about poverty, inherent discrimination, and other shit way over your head.

I grew up in the worst parts of Baltimore... yes, I know nothing of poverty or inherent discrimination. Where are you from again?

Originally Posted by Young

BTW - you played the race card. Hypocrite

Incorrect. I stated the cold hard truth. I can't help it if you're so jaded by racism that all you see is "OMFG a white guy killed a black kid!!1!1!".

Like I said, if he's found guilty then let his ass rot in jail.. but everyone else - including the full of shit media - need to shut the fuck up.

[Choopa_Pardo]

Somehow I hate every possible opinion regarding this whole thing.

[Young]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Yes it happens everyday, and we all know why.
Just like when I was on a Subway I didn't sit beside or look at the Skin Heads up to no good.

I agree that the EMO kid or the skin head or the latin (escorpio are you afraid of these guys?) gang member looking types all face the same stereotypes and discrimination.

[Tom_PM]

Richard Kurtz, the Miami funeral director who examined Trayvon Martin's body, says the body "showed no signs of a violent brawl."

Kurtz says Trayvon Martin "looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see."

So yeah.. about him attacking and all that? Is there really evidence of that?

[Lonny]

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

There is also a batshit crazy Aryan Brotherhood and the big Cholos presence, who I suppose would back him up.

You have a point, don't know shit on Fla. jails but in calif if this went down he would be caught between the Mexican Mafia - Southern Calif, or Nuestra Familia - Nothern Calif. and would endure a shit load of beat downs. Zimmerman dosent have to be a gang member either.

And if that's not bad enough the BGF - Black Gorilla Family would want a piece of him for the main prize as one would call it and pay to have their own do the deed, or have one of the two I mentioned do it for them all because the kid was under age.
If the kid was 18 they pretty much wouldnt give a shit.

All prison politic as they call it also what a lot of people don't know the
Mexican Mafia and Aryan Brotherhood run tight together were Nuestra Familia and the BGF run tight together.

[Young]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

From the sound of it, he wasn't even sure that the kid was black... hence the "I think" part of his answer to the police. But then, I guess no one should report suspicious behavior now right? because god forbid the person being reported just happened to be black. And hate to burst your bubble but if the kid was white, he still would have reported it to the police because he was... ahem... unsure. "I think he's black" after being asked by the dispatch officer isn't racial profiling moron.

Yes. You're absolutely right. George Zimmerman followed the kid because he was walking alone in the rain and wearing a hoodie. I mean....that's fucking suspicious. Had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he was black.

You are right. I am wrong. I have been enlightened and shown the way. Thank you oh great vdbucks from GFY.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by GFED

You mean I can't come back to beat someone to death that was looking at me? Even after he stops following me and returns to his vehicle?

we're an hour out from what the case holds. Id like to see the case moved from florida this guy has family and friends in the justice system.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Richard Kurtz, the Miami funeral director who examined Trayvon Martin's body, says the body "showed no signs of a violent brawl."

Kurtz says Trayvon Martin "looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see."

So yeah.. about him attacking and all that? Is there really evidence of that?

Why would there be damage to Trayvon when Zimmerman was the one getting his shit pushed in? This just proves that Zimmerman did not hit Trayvon at all, as he was helpless and screaming for help.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by Rochard

He's the facts: He shot the kid dead.

That's it. There's no doubt in anyone's mind that he shot the kid. He needs to prove he was defending himself, which he cannot do. The kid was armed with a bag of fucking skittles. That's it.

Ok, so then Zimmerman should have just let him pound his head into the ground until he ended up dead... Then it would just be another black kid hauled off to jail and the whole outcry would be here just the same. It's fucking moronic. The Zimmerman guy said not a single fucking word that could even be considered racist, and he only told the cop that he *thought* the kid was black... but not until AFTER the cop asked him.

If Zimmerman would have shot any other race than a black kid then there wouldn't be so much fucking attention on the case. End of story. Everyone wants to make this out to be some racism fueled hate crime when all the evidence we have available says that it's not.

I actually wish the kid he killed was white... then we'd get a real investigation that's not fueled by morons playing the race card...

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Richard Kurtz, the Miami funeral director who examined Trayvon Martin's body, says the body "showed no signs of a violent brawl."

Kurtz says Trayvon Martin "looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see."

So yeah.. about him attacking and all that? Is there really evidence of that?

Yeah no one said Trayvon was getting beat up!
I can jump you knock you down, get on top of you and start bashing your head in the road without any marks on me, just saying.

[brassmonkey]

vdbucks you trollin??

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by GFED

Why would there be damage to Trayvon when Zimmerman was the one getting his shit pushed in? This just proves that Zimmerman did not hit Trayvon at all, as he was helpless and screaming for help.

Bingo!!!!!!

[Tom_PM]

Then why are there people saying Zimmerman had no cuts or bruises on his head or knuckles or body either guys? How are these men in a brawl that is life threatening and not showing a sign? Someone had told me there was enhanced video showing Zimmerman's head, but I havent seen it so I'm asking you. They did cancel the second ambulance at the scene that night because Zimmerman didnt need it. I'm not eating cable news on this thing, so seriously dont know.

edit: Oh and by the way, it wasn't my word saying there would have been signs on the dead mans body and hands, it was the coroner dude.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we're an hour out from what the case holds. Id like to see the case moved from florida this guy has family and friends in the justice system.

yes sir mr monkey, i would like to see a fair trial from all sides of this incident so that there are no excuses whatsoever... for whatever the decision is.

[Young]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Bingo!!!!!!

99% of GFY has never taken a swing at someone in their entire lives.

Now all of the sudden everyone is an expert on fighting.

[brassmonkey]

i see that a few of you are standing on Zimmerman word. lets wait an hour and then we'll talk im going to do some eating brb

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

vdbucks you trollin??

Nope.. as I said initially I tend to stay out of these types of "debates" because nothing ever comes of them but I'm just tired of the race card being thrown up every time something happens.

If Trayvon would have been white then none of this nonsense would be going on. Oh but because he was black , all of a sudden it's a racism fueled hate crime... The shit gets old.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Young

99% of GFY has never taken a swing at someone in their entire lives.

Now all of the sudden everyone is an expert on fighting.

im in the 1%

[GFED]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Then why are there people saying Zimmerman had no cuts or bruises on his head or knuckles or body either guys? How are these men in a brawl that is life threatening and not showing a sign? Someone had told me there was enhanced video showing Zimmerman's head, but I havent seen it so I'm asking you. They did cancel the second ambulance at the scene that night because Zimmerman didnt need it. I'm not eating cable news on this thing, so seriously dont know.

edit: Oh and by the way, it wasn't my word saying there would have been signs on the dead mans body and hands, it was the coroner dude.

read the long winded post above... it contains all information up to current, except for mentioning zimmerman was returning to his vehicle when he was confronted.

[halfpint]

Who is he ?