All those 3rd-party ad models are intended for free content providers. Basically for thieves like torrents, tubes, warez forums etc. If you have a good content which sells itself, why do you need any ad networks?

For example, I have a product which I sell from my site. Why will I give it away for free? It's easy to give away something that was created by somebody else. Launch a warez board/torrent tracker/tube with "user uploaded" content, put some 3rd-party ad system there and you are in chocolate. Very easy way to made money doing nothing right?

On the other hand, why would you use these annoying popups, popunders and other shit to sell your product (a script, a desktop application a paysite membership etc)? For example, if you are promoting some affiliate program using legit promo content (videos, images etc) you will link them to paysite directly, right? So how can you be affected by adblocking software in such a case? Enlighten me please.

Bingo !

You wouldn't want to ruin the freeloaders experience.

:disgust

Yup. :thumbsup

You're so clueless nobody can even explain it to you without treating you like a 5 year old asking about Santa. :Oh crap

AdBlockers like http://safariadblock.com/ allow you to turn the ad blocking extension on and off at will, so if you wish to see ads you still can.

They are not permanent (you can always uninstall), and if you are interested in researching how your competition is set up, you can easily turn the blocker on and off as necessary.

That is all. Flame away!

How old are you, clown? How many years you're into online business? Don't tell me who I'm. Grow up first, you little puppy.

I'm only 12 and what is this?

:1orglaugh desparation

Lmfao!!!

tubes will die off eventually, if not naturally by something else coming along to replace them then by the government. you can't expect to let kids surf full length hardcore porn movies forever without someone stepping in.

So here's an idea :

(I don't know if its possible, but)

What if you add a statement to your site, asking people to add your domain as a whitelist to their adblocker program (if it can be done that is).

My point is, you can be honest and appeal to the end user. A statement like "We depend on ad revenue for our business / there are no intrusive ads or pop-anythings / please whitelist our site / thank you!"

I haven't been to your sites and I will assume that you have no intrusive ads. Maybe the people you should be mad at, are not the ad-blocker people or the ones who promote them, but instead be mad at those who DO use dirty tricks in advertising?

Just an idea...

Nice idea, but it won't work.

If it DID work, they wouldn't stop at tube sites. (They don't know the difference). They would attack the porn industry in general.

It's been done. Every once in a while the war against porn rises up, alot of people grandstand and claim to be "protecting kids from porn", but in the end they calm down and go away.

How many people use safari? 5%

I don't think it's gonna destroy tubes.

I don't think I could agree more. This is also why AK is attacking some of these sites that allow this medium of monetary gain.

Educating the current users of adblock is the best thing you can do, but this thread isn't about educating them or about stopping intrusive advertisers, it's about pushing adblockers as a method to "ruin" the tubes.... And it's not gonna help us at all.

They make versions for ALL browsers. :2 cents:

So 100% is the maximum number of surfers who have that ABILITY to adblock (should they choose to do so).

If everyone knew this option was possible, what percentage of surfers would adblock?

90% ... maybe more?

I can post links for all platforms here if you like, but as a number of people already have their panties in a bunch over this idea I won't stir the pot up any further.

BTW here is what one of my internal ad banner pages looks like with adblocker on and with adblocker off....

http://FetishSoup.com/GFY/AdOnOff.jpg

All links work fine with or without the blocker, so it is possible to CALMLY advertise to surfers, even if they choose to kill off the insanity they run across on tube sites via an adblocker.

What's with this adblock? For example.. 0.02% of my visitors used adblock... Big deal.. they get redirected to http://removeadblock.com until they remove it. So will you... :1orglaugh

No need to remove them, as they can be turned on and off.

The question can be phrased like this...

Q. Do you want to enter a site with shitloads of advertising that annoys the fuck out of you?

A. Then turn your adblocker off.

another question that would be similar...

Q. Do you want to visit a suspicious site that may or may not harm your computer?

A. Then turn off your antivirus software.

How do you think that would work out?

I know.

I don't visit such sites.

Fatal Error: Found MS-Windows System -> Repartitioning Disk for Linux...

bring em on
 

Time for the mother fucker thieves and pirates to starve. the more thing is advertised, the better it will be.

now that's marketing 2.0 right there!

how about popsicle sticks? Like when you get to the end of it BLAM! HELLO WEBSITE! That's some big dollars right there.

..and how come we aren't trying to get on talk shows? Fuck banners, i'm going on conan to talk titties!


Lest we forget bus benches...$$$

Use PHP to manage and output ads as regular echoed HTML, stuffing a cookie elsewhere if needed/applicable... Problem solved..

If ad blockers are blocking your ads your in the wrong business.

TGP --> MGP --> Blog --> Tube

They all overlap but they all eventually die. Be patient. Unlimited bandwidth is not going to free much longer.

No offense Ed, but... If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

I remember these same arguments when TGPs & MGPs came around. Obviously there's the massive pirated content issue w/tubes, but still...

For better or worse, tubes aren't going anywhere.

This :thumbsup

From what I can tell you are not serving these banners via an ad server such as OpenX etc? And yet you do have the images in a folder named "banners" and the image themselves have the word banner in them i.e. BM_banner.jpg

So do your ads still display because the images are on the same domain or because they are not being served via an ad server? Or both?

If these same banners were served via OpenX from FetishSoup.net vs .com would the adblocker filter them out?

This is probably a stupid question, but how come nobody's sued one of these tube sites yet? Everyone complains about them but has anyone actually made an attempt to bring one down? Seems like if one of the larger ones was brought down the rest would quickly follow suit.

one fitty Tube Destroyers.........

Why not make a script that detects ad blockers, then redirect to a page telling the surfer to turn that off? With ads on that page, of course.. :winkwink:

That is what plugrush did :-)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir.../adblock-plus/ (15,609,644 users)
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...namgkkbiglidom (10,000,000+ users)
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...ibdccddilifddb (7,534,060 users)

Enjoy :pimp

Beware to say that here! You might be accused of having a lack of intellect, n00b :) :winkwink:

To sue Manwin? Good luck on that...

Indeed :)

BTW, It's a myth that Mac OS X and Linux have a better protection against trojans than Windows.

Is that the best you can do? :1orglaugh

In case you haven't figured it out already that was a rhetorical question.

The guy made some good points and it goes without saying that you're incapable of refuting them for just that reason.
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IDK all of the answers to this. I don't use OpenX (or anything like it) - and no ad server - so maybe my banners work just because they are served from the same server. Whatever the reason(s) my nonintrusive banner ads are not blocked.

Thanks for taking the time to respond :thumbsup

I ask those questions because IF for example its the OpenX call that is being targeted then I need to consider revising some things :Oh crap

We have OpenX integrated directly into our CMS .. and that CMS manages 50% of our domains. It's extremely efficient for managing the ad inventory.

I know how I'll be spending the weekend.... testing!

If advertising wasn't so f'n excessive people wouldn't need to use ad blockers.

The people using ad blockers are the same assholes who use scripts and/or manually strip out affiliate IDs when they buy stuff for no reason.. Both are stealing