Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19446071)

Webmasters and affiliates made WAAAAY more money before tubes, so I stand by my original position...

Ad blockers kick ass!

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19445629)

Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

http://safariadblock.com/

Fucking Awesome!

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19445632)

These extensions are meant to blacklist everything and require you to whitelist sites, and normal users won't customize it that much, they'll just install the extension and go on their merry way never seeing an advertisement again.

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19445632)

Say good bye to your income too. It's already a problem

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19445768)

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:
http://i.imgur.com/rMJPGSQ.jpg

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:
http://i.imgur.com/pzjUuRw.png

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19445768)

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:
http://i.imgur.com/rMJPGSQ.jpg

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:
http://i.imgur.com/pzjUuRw.png

So are you telling me that these guys, a group of hardworking and legitimate webmasters should just say "welp, oh well, as long as none of pornhub.com's ads are showing, then I'm okay losing a good portion of our income."

That's the dumbest thing I've every seen, and I will gladly call every single one of you who think this solution is even remotely viable a dumbfuck to your face.

This is my last post in such an idiotic fucking thread.... I can't even fathom trying to explain this anymore to such a group of individuals who lack any type of common sense.

:disgust

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446471)

The second one looks much better. I just love the adblock extension for my FF :thumbsup

P.S. There are no ads at GFY for me too :)

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19446489)

I would not use it for the simple fact that I like to see what other people (competition...) are doing. I think as a marketeer that makes perfect sense right...

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446494)

Personally I don't want to see at popups and popunders. They are just annoying me, so I'm using adblock extension for a long time already. If you want to promote something, there are many other ways to do so that can't be blocked by adblock and will not annoy the surfers :2 cents:

P.S. Usually those ways are about 100 times more affective than popups and embedded ads. Just sain'.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19446484)

Would it be possible to detect if a user is using adblock, or something alike, before the site loads and serve them a slightly different page? Perhaps without ads but more textual promos.

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 19446501)

@Roald:
Yes, Nextri and his gays at Plugrush launched the campaign "remove adblock" a few weeks ago. He wrote about it in a thread here on GFY and you can see their campaign site here: http://www.removeadblock.com/

So try to get in contact with him or read the campaign site.

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 19446501)

@Roald:
Yes, Nextri and his guys at Plugrush launched the campaign "remove adblock" a few weeks ago. He wrote about it in a thread here on GFY and you can see their campaign site here: http://www.removeadblock.com/

So try to get in contact with him or read the campaign site.

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 19446501)

@Roald:
Yes, Nextri and his guys at Plugrush launched the campaign "remove adblock" a few weeks ago. He wrote about it in a thread here on GFY and you can see their campaign site here: http://www.removeadblock.com/

So try to get in contact with him or read the campaign site.

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19446506)

instead of telling visitors to remove adblock I would prefer to serve them an ad free site but with text advertising (or something) instead as I think that would be more effective.)

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446521)

"something" here includes a huge variety of different ways of advertisement which won't be blocked by adblock :2 cents:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19445714)

Hi Killswitch

Most people understand the need for advertising on websites, and most are ok with some ads appearing. This isn't the problem. The real problem is with OVER-advertising either by super aggressive marketing companies, dumb webmasters, or both.

Alot of advertisers think that more is better. They think that hammering the fuck out of end users is the way to get seen. They have either never heard the word "targeted" ads, or they can't be bothered with it.

Take Youtube for example. Youtube used to COOL and a FUN destination. Now ads pop-up in the vidoes I want to watch forcing me to click to close them. Even worse are ads that force me to watch 5 seconds before I can "click to skip" the ad.

Problems like Ad Blocker are a GOOD IDEA, and I'm saying this even though we spend money on advertising all the time. The Internet Advertising industry as a whole is just getting a little out of control, ignoring customer surfing habits in exchange for more more more. Although I want my ads to be seen, I don't blame surfers who want ad blocking software at all.

Want proof? How pissed off do you get at yet another Live Jasmin Pop-under, with some annoying twit moaning through your speakers when you didn't want or expect it?

Thanks BFT3K for the link to http://safariadblock.com/. I don't think it will hurt the tube sites much (and ad sellers will just deny its existence or downplay it anyway), but oh well.

Love it.

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19445646)

The people who make money off my program run blogs with hardlinks back to me.

These people are not effected. Tubes are effected, and I don't give one single fuck about tubes!

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19446506)

instead of telling visitors to remove adblock I would prefer to serve them an ad free site but with text advertising (or something) instead as I think that would be more effective.

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19445878)

Advocating the blocking of normal on page ads on sites is just killing the golden goose, however so is throwing a dozen pop-ups and pop-unders to surfers.

Originally Posted by robwod (Post 19446618)

You mean instead of trying to block surfers for having an adblocker installed, you'd prefer to try to convert those surfers in other ways and not leave money on the table? Oh, the horror. Be careful on using business logic, you might be told you lack intelligence ;)

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446593)

I don't think so. Even all modern video recorder are able to skip the commercial blocks. That's normal IMHO.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19446659)

Internet generation is becoming delusional... not too long ago if you wanted content you had to pay for it, then everything became free (ad supported)... then some asshat came along, created ad block software, fucking internet marketers out of Billions/year in the process... and of course all this is not only "normal", but we should promote these ad block add ons? are you guys sniffing glue or something?

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19446659)

Internet generation is becoming delusional... not too long ago if you wanted content you had to pay for it, then everything became free (ad supported)... then some asshat came along, created ad block software, fucking internet marketers out of Billions/year in the process... and of course all this is not only "normal", but we should promote these ad block add ons? are you guys sniffing glue or something?

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19446560)

Isn't disabling ads a form of stealing? You are consuming content that is paid for by ads, so don't you rip off/steal from the website owner by disabling ads?

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19446685)

oh the delicious irony of a porn seller pushing for ad blockers.

if one reads between the lines, interesting facts emerge.

I would wager a million dollars that BFT3K gets his porn fix from the very tubes he despises. I know firsthand that he NEVER subscribes to paysites. He doesnt even consider it. But he has this don quixote crusade against the very tubes that provide him the only porn he will consume, free porn.

the tubes he despises are having no effect on his network. His content is not on any of the major tubes, so he cannot accuse pornhub of giving his content away for free.

of course his retort would be how tubes are pulling traffic from paysites, & therefore hurting him. But this is merely the horse drawn carriage driver complaining how the car is putting them out of business. The tube model is the marketing model of porn today. accept it or find something else to sell.

if BFT3K was actually cared about affiliates or networks marketing his sites, he would likely take a different position. But since his marketing consists of posting comedy threads of GFY, he does not care how adblocking may hurt marketing efforts he does not make.

thanks for the :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446494)

Personally I don't want to see at popups and popunders. They are just annoying me, so I'm using adblock extension for a long time already. If you want to promote something, there are many other ways to do so that can't be blocked by adblock and will not annoy the surfers :2 cents:

P.S. Usually those ways are about 100 times more affective than popups and embedded ads. Just sain'.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446470)

And that is cool! No annoying popups, popunders and other shit around :thumbsup



Maybe just for you? You can see my sig with adblock enabled, right? :pimp

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19446651)

Yes it is normal. If "someone" can't promote their content without annoying popups and and embedded ad spots, he will lose the business sooner or latter.

There are many other ways to promote your content without that shit. The direct one (ad links built into the content) or membership models. You know, recently I was reading an article of a very famous blogger who said that ads suck and they are dead already because all the money in the membership model. So if your readers consider your blog (actually any type of a website) interestingly, there won't be a problem for them to pay for an yearly/monthly membership.

Do you know what I'm talking about? The guy just invented a "new" monetizing system.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19446659)

Internet generation is becoming delusional... not too long ago if you wanted content you had to pay for it, then everything became free (ad supported)... then some asshat came along, created ad block software, fucking internet marketers out of Billions/year in the process... and of course all this is not only "normal", but we should promote these ad block add ons? are you guys sniffing glue or something?

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19446843)

I think the point here is that "pop ups" or "unders" or any of that shit will drive away your surfers in the end.

Static advertising on the page which gives the viewer the CHOICE to click it or not is effective and honest advertising.

I've never used pop ups or pop unders or any of that crap. And I've been very, very successful without using that.

The tagline on one of my TGP's is: "No pop-ups, no blindlinks, no bullshit"

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19446847)

I have a feeling that the issues for tubesites are only beginning

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19446843)

I think the point here is that "pop ups" or "unders" or any of that shit will drive away your surfers in the end.

Static advertising on the page which gives the viewer the CHOICE to click it or not is effective and honest advertising.

I've never used pop ups or pop unders or any of that crap. And I've been very, very successful without using that.

The tagline on one of my TGP's is: "No pop-ups, no blindlinks, no bullshit"

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19446696)

Hey Drama Queen,

Think about this image next time you require a rental studio...

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 19446862)

i'm confident i can find a studio whose owner doesnt let cats walk through the shot & lets phones ring off the hook. :winkwink:

sorry former buddy. i feel bad for you. you make this thread from the standpoint of a porn consumer. all those ads popping up on tubes you surf, what a pain in the ass. nevermind the ludicruousness of a porn seller wanting to block porn ads on a webpage.

i mean, if an affiliate is looking for a new network to promote, then they run into this thread, what are they supposed to think of a webmaster that wants to shut down his marketing tools?

i hope your strategy of posting clipstore updates with obsolete file formats is making you rich beyond your wildest dreams. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19446860)

I will have no problems using the content of any sponsor in this thread who supports adblock programs without linking back to their sites... :2 cents: