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Old 07-30-2008, 02:09 PM   #1
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Enough of this Obama - McCain shit!

what would YOU fuckin´ change if you were US-president?
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Old 07-30-2008, 02:13 PM   #2
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all incarcerated non violent drug offenders would be offered the option leave prison & do their time in home confiment

they (or their family) would pay for all of the fees associated with this (equipment, man-power, etc).

if they fuck up they go to back to jail

legalize the ganja & tax it
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I'd bomb any country with brown people, take their oil, and make the rest of the world fear the US, as they should.

Then, I'd write off any debts, and tell them to bring it, bitches.
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enough of this cut taxes or raise taxes flippy floppy shit. id cut spending like crazy, and lower taxes
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Attack Iran?
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  • The first thing I'd do is read the fucking Constitution and some history books and try to remember how this country was started. We're turning into exactly what it was that we wanted to escape from.
  • Welfare would be provided for people incapable of working, not just too lazy.
  • People on welfare would not be permitted to have children in my country.
  • Withdraw troops from the middle east and then duplicate Nagasaki/Hiroshima. This cunt tree is in desperate need of depussifying. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which was a military base, and we retaliated perfectly. Then, these fuckers fly planes into civilian buildings and kill thousands of people... For that, kill the whole fucking breed.
  • Ban gay marriages
  • Excuse California from the country and erect an enormous wall to keep all those fruits and nuts out
  • Legalize human euthanasia
  • Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc.
  • Stop fucking with the tobacco companies. They provide a product people want. Leave them alone.
  • Ban smoking bans. Allowing smoking is up to the person who owns the property.
  • Remove the concept of "hate" crimes.
  • Allow communities to pardon "criminals" by voting, so that when someone in a community kills a known child molestor, the community can decide if what he did was wrong and should be punished.
  • Legalize vengeance to any degree desired for rape or molestation by the victim or any immediate family member
Probably some more stuff, but I'm off to eat chicken parmesan.
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Old 07-30-2008, 02:37 PM   #7
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enough of this cut taxes or raise taxes flippy floppy shit. id cut spending like crazy, and lower taxes
I think the key is to cut taxes to a ridiculous degree first. It's easy to say you'll cut back on spending, but until the money stops coming in and you're forced to make a change... Eliminate roles that the government plays to eliminate the supposed need for the money.
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  • The first thing I'd do is read the fucking Constitution and some history books and try to remember how this country was started. We're turning into exactly what it was that we wanted to escape from.
  • Welfare would be provided for people incapable of working, not just too lazy.
  • People on welfare would not be permitted to have children in my country.
  • Withdraw troops from the middle east and then duplicate Nagasaki/Hiroshima. This is in desperate need of depussifying. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which was a military base, and we retaliated perfectly. Then, these fuckers fly planes into civilian buildings and kill thousands of people... For that, kill the whole fucking breed.
  • Ban gay marriages
  • Excuse California from the country and erect an enormous wall to keep all those fruits and nuts out
  • Legalize human euthanasia
  • Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc.
  • Stop fucking with the tobacco companies. They provide a product people want. Leave them alone.
  • Ban smoking bans. Allowing smoking is up to the person who owns the property.
  • Remove the concept of "hate" crimes.
  • Allow communities to pardon "criminals" by voting, so that when someone in a community kills a known child molestor, the community can decide if what he did was wrong and should be punished.
  • Legalize vengeance to any degree desired for rape or molestation by the victim or any immediate family member
Probably some more stuff, but I'm off to eat chicken parmesan.
some good ones there!
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Old 07-30-2008, 02:40 PM   #9
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  • The first thing I'd do is read the fucking Constitution and some history books and try to remember how this country was started. We're turning into exactly what it was that we wanted to escape from.
  • Welfare would be provided for people incapable of working, not just too lazy.
  • People on welfare would not be permitted to have children in my country.
  • Withdraw troops from the middle east and then duplicate Nagasaki/Hiroshima. This cunt tree is in desperate need of depussifying. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which was a military base, and we retaliated perfectly. Then, these fuckers fly planes into civilian buildings and kill thousands of people... For that, kill the whole fucking breed.
  • Ban gay marriages
  • Excuse California from the country and erect an enormous wall to keep all those fruits and nuts out
  • Legalize human euthanasia
  • Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc.
  • Stop fucking with the tobacco companies. They provide a product people want. Leave them alone.
  • Ban smoking bans. Allowing smoking is up to the person who owns the property.
  • Remove the concept of "hate" crimes.
  • Allow communities to pardon "criminals" by voting, so that when someone in a community kills a known child molestor, the community can decide if what he did was wrong and should be punished.
  • Legalize vengeance to any degree desired for rape or molestation by the victim or any immediate family member
Probably some more stuff, but I'm off to eat chicken parmesan.

I agree with most of those, however you can't cite to learn the constitution then say you would limit people the right to have children. I agree with it, Im just saying it would not be constitutional to limit someones right to have a child. Smacks of what China does, and we know what they are.
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I agree with most of those, however you can't cite to learn the constitution then say you would limit people the right to have children. I agree with it, Im just saying it would not be constitutional to limit someones right to have a child. Smacks of what China does, and we know what they are.
some people should not be allowed to have children (or any more children than they already have)... we don't need trashy mothers of any race popping out 7-8 kids (1 at a time) and bringing them up in poverty

there should be some way to control this given the right circumstances, its practically abuse
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:43 PM   #11
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  • The first thing I'd do is read the fucking Constitution and some history books and try to remember how this country was started. We're turning into exactly what it was that we wanted to escape from.
  • Welfare would be provided for people incapable of working, not just too lazy.
  • People on welfare would not be permitted to have children in my country.
  • Withdraw troops from the middle east and then duplicate Nagasaki/Hiroshima. This cunt tree is in desperate need of depussifying. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which was a military base, and we retaliated perfectly. Then, these fuckers fly planes into civilian buildings and kill thousands of people... For that, kill the whole fucking breed.
  • Ban gay marriages
  • Excuse California from the country and erect an enormous wall to keep all those fruits and nuts out
  • Legalize human euthanasia
  • Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc.
  • Stop fucking with the tobacco companies. They provide a product people want. Leave them alone.
  • Ban smoking bans. Allowing smoking is up to the person who owns the property.
  • Remove the concept of "hate" crimes.
  • Allow communities to pardon "criminals" by voting, so that when someone in a community kills a known child molestor, the community can decide if what he did was wrong and should be punished.
  • Legalize vengeance to any degree desired for rape or molestation by the victim or any immediate family member
Probably some more stuff, but I'm off to eat chicken parmesan.
I agree with some of these and am glad you are not in charge for others.

First, you say you want to, "Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc." yet you say you want to ban gay marriage. If you are married your marriage is between you and your spouse not society. What harm does it do to others if two gay people are married?

Second, smoking bans are meant to keep other people safe. I should be allowed to go to various places and not have to breathe in other people's smoke. Sure, if a bar wants to be a smoking bar I have the choice to go there or not, but I should be able to walk down the street or stand in line somewhere without having to breathe other people's smoke. If people want to smoke, fine, but let them do it at home, in their car or somewhere that I can choose to not be in, but general smoking bans should stay.

Third, you actually think eradicating an entire race of people is something that should be done in retaliation to the actions of a few? I'm not saying there are not Muslims who hate us, I know there are, but when you just want to wipe out a billion people for the action of a few that is pretty extreme and would serve to only make us the most hated country in the would and I would not be surprised if much of the world cut off relations with us and we would see our economy and country shrivel up into nothing. I'm sorry, but saying something like this is just crazy.

Just my thoughts on some of your points.
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Make it so U.S. Companies aren't taxed 35% on the money they bring in from International companies/investors.

Let the "state" decided what they do and don't want to be legal.

Make lobbing illegal.

Close 75% of the Gov orgs.

Open legal drug markets to take drugs from other countries.

Kill private unions and make it illegal for unions to mass contribute to political anything.

Offer an opt in preventive health care plan that is Gov/State sponsored. Then use 5% of the imported money from corps to pay for it, and offer that 5% back as a tax break to company.

Change to some type of flat tax or sales tax, remove all the other bs taxes on everything. If a sales tax, make persons tax work like corp tax so they pay on net income.

Rip up almost every trade agreement with every country. Tell people what we will buy at or find someone that will buy/sell at our price points. It's business, someone will do it.

Open up drilling all the hell over, flood the market with oil, and give every American a cut. Starting with taking the oil in Iraq and selling it on the market to pay us back for the war.

Open up and expand mining, but put in laws that say they have to rebuild the land once they are done. Add trees, ponds, grass, ect.

Mexico, wall, big, and land mines. Lots of legals way to come in. And lots of bad shit coming through, including the Mexican Military.

Stop buying food from any 3rd world country.

Make it so you can't fake bid, or bid up on the markets. No idea how to fix that, but someone does.

I could keep going but I'm not running for president
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:07 PM   #14
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I would disallow the sad ignorance that apperently prevails on this board too, not only in the US government...
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People have to read history. They really do and not just listen to pundits.
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I wish they would stop sending me spam mail I dont even live in the US and they send me mail about Obama and Mcain
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First, you say you want to, "Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc." yet you say you want to ban gay marriage. If you are married your marriage is between you and your spouse not society. What harm does it do to others if two gay people are married?
Yeah, this one I should clarify a bit, although you probably will still disagree. For some sentimental reason that I can't explain, I just wouldn't want it to be called "marriage." I'm not really sure why. A legal union that gives all the same rights as a married couple? Sure, why not. I'm all for that. Just call it something different. I won't say that this is a rational opinion though.

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Second, smoking bans are meant to keep other people safe. I should be allowed to go to various places and not have to breathe in other people's smoke. Sure, if a bar wants to be a smoking bar I have the choice to go there or not, but I should be able to walk down the street or stand in line somewhere without having to breathe other people's smoke. If people want to smoke, fine, but let them do it at home, in their car or somewhere that I can choose to not be in, but general smoking bans should stay.
For public areas, it should be majority rules for smoking laws at best. I agree that walking through a cloud of smoke when entering a building is a bit annoying, but as far as a privately-owned establishment, that should be up to the owner. If people don't like the smoke, the owner will change the rules. I decide that people may not smoke in my house. A restaurant owned by a private party is, in my opinion, more like a home than it is a property owned by the public. And similarly, if golf courses don't want to allow blacks or Jews or whatever, they should be free to have such rules. I'm not defending such a decision, but I am defending the right to make that decision. Part of living in a free country is allowing people to make choices, good or bad. If I want to make a rule that no one of Polish descent is allowed in my home, I can do that. Same should go for any privately-owned property, whether it's a golf course, a restaurant, a movie theater, or whatever. The right to choose trumps the correctness of the decision.

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Yeah, this one I should clarify a bit, although you probably will still disagree. For some sentimental reason that I can't explain, I just wouldn't want it to be called "marriage." I'm not really sure why. A legal union that gives all the same rights as a married couple? Sure, why not. I'm all for that. Just call it something different. I won't say that this is a rational opinion though.
I do agree with you that it doesn't make a lot of sense, but at least you admit it. If they can have all the same rights as a marriage, then what is the big deal about calling it a marriage? At least you are willing to admit that you have no rational reason for it though



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For public areas, it should be majority rules for smoking laws at best. I agree that walking through a cloud of smoke when entering a building is a bit annoying, but as far as a privately-owned establishment, that should be up to the owner. If people don't like the smoke, the owner will change the rules. I decide that people may not smoke in my house. A restaurant owned by a private party is, in my opinion, more like a home than it is a property owned by the public. And similarly, if golf courses don't want to allow blacks or Jews or whatever, they should be free to have such rules. I'm not defending such a decision, but I am defending the right to make that decision. Part of living in a free country is allowing people to make choices, good or bad. If I want to make a rule that no one of Polish descent is allowed in my home, I can do that. Same should go for any privately-owned property, whether it's a golf course, a restaurant, a movie theater, or whatever. The right to choose trumps the correctness of the decision.
I agree. If someone wants to make their bar a smoking establishment and risk some people not going there because of that they should be allowed to do that. What bothers me is when you walk down the street in a city and they are crowded by people all on smoke breaks from their offices. If people want to smoke in their homes or in privately owned establishments that allow it then cool, but is should not be allowed in public.



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Well, we will have to agree to disagree. I think trying to nuke the Muslims into extinction would bring about the downfall of our nation. Throughout history anyone that tries to eradicate any one race or group of people tends to end up getting the beat down and getting their asses kicked.
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I guess I should add mine not just critique others. Here are a few things.

- modify our legal system. Clearly the system isn't working when 1 in 100 people are in jail and the prisons are bursting at the seams. I think there should be some real rehabilitation and try to help people who get out of jail get legit jobs and make some money so they don't go back to crime.

- modify our welfare system. We have to end these people that have multiple kids just to stay on welfare and then their kids end up on it and welfare becomes the family business.

- cut government spending. Most of the things we waste money on has to go. We stop giving money to other countries. We get rid of all the useless government things that seem to only eat cash and never really do anything good for us. Much of that stuff can be handled better through private enterprise.

- when you have less government you have less expenses and can cut taxes.

- rework our trade deals to favor US companies and cut all tax breaks to companies that ship their jobs overseas.

- lobbyist should be outlawed. We can't continue to have our lawmakers in the pockets of business.

- revamp our healthcare system. We need to put together some type of system where those that can't get health insurance have access through it either via paying for it or some other system.

- we have go balls out to develop alternative fuels and work as hard as we can to get away from needing oil from other countries. The more money that leaves out country to buy oil the less we have in our economy.

Just a few ideas.
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Well, we will have to agree to disagree. I think trying to nuke the Muslims into extinction would bring about the downfall of our nation. Throughout history anyone that tries to eradicate any one race or group of people tends to end up getting the beat down and getting their asses kicked.
I set myself a reminder to check back here in 4 years. I'm still in pissed-off mode, which never is a good state to be in when making decisions. It's a good thing I'm not president. After a complete cool-down period, my feelings will be very different.
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I set myself a reminder to check back here in 4 years. I'm still in pissed-off mode, which never is a good state to be in when making decisions. It's a good thing I'm not president. After a complete cool-down period, my feelings will be very different.
I agree. when you are pissed sometimes you think differently and sometimes just time changes things. I had a teacher in high school that did kind of a cool thing. The first day of our freshman year we filled out a questionnaire. It asked about our favorite colors, bands, clothes, things to do, friends and so on. At the end of our senior year she gave it back to you and you could see how you answered fours years ago. It was cool to see how much four years can change you.
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I set myself a reminder to check back here in 4 years. I'm still in pissed-off mode, which never is a good state to be in when making decisions. It's a good thing I'm not president. After a complete cool-down period, my feelings will be very different.
I got my reminder, but I'm not sure wtf this was about.
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  • The first thing I'd do is read the fucking Constitution and some history books and try to remember how this country was started. We're turning into exactly what it was that we wanted to escape from.
  • Welfare would be provided for people incapable of working, not just too lazy.
  • People on welfare would not be permitted to have children in my country.
  • Withdraw troops from the middle east and then duplicate Nagasaki/Hiroshima. This cunt tree is in desperate need of depussifying. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which was a military base, and we retaliated perfectly. Then, these fuckers fly planes into civilian buildings and kill thousands of people... For that, kill the whole fucking breed.
  • Ban gay marriages
  • Excuse California from the country and erect an enormous wall to keep all those fruits and nuts out
  • Legalize human euthanasia
  • Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc.
  • Stop fucking with the tobacco companies. They provide a product people want. Leave them alone.
  • Ban smoking bans. Allowing smoking is up to the person who owns the property.
  • Remove the concept of "hate" crimes.
  • Allow communities to pardon "criminals" by voting, so that when someone in a community kills a known child molestor, the community can decide if what he did was wrong and should be punished.
  • Legalize vengeance to any degree desired for rape or molestation by the victim or any immediate family member
Probably some more stuff, but I'm off to eat chicken parmesan.
You list all this shit, but leave off massive corporate welfare, and wars of choice, and a pentagon budget that can't even be audited it's so out of control? Banning gay marriage is more important? Removing the concept of hate crimes is more important? Protecting tobacco companies is more important?

You're a dumbass. Turn off Limbaugh; he's making a fool of you.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:39 PM   #32
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I'd bomb any country with brown people, take their oil, and make the rest of the world fear the US, as they should.

Then, I'd write off any debts, and tell them to bring it, bitches.
Isn't that kind of what's going on now?

No hope for change here!

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:43 PM   #33
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I Would Demand Strict Adherence To The Constitution.
Again Political Jobs Would Be Part Time Voluntary Jobs (Without Pay)... As They Were Designed.
And The Government Would Have 1 Single Function; To Protect Individual rights. As It was Designed.

I Know! ...Right!
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I would ignore the future and make time travel a thing of the past.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:20 PM   #35
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  • The first thing I'd do is read the fucking Constitution and some history books and try to remember how this country was started. We're turning into exactly what it was that we wanted to escape from.
  • Welfare would be provided for people incapable of working, not just too lazy.
  • People on welfare would not be permitted to have children in my country.
  • Withdraw troops from the middle east and then duplicate Nagasaki/Hiroshima. This cunt tree is in desperate need of depussifying. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which was a military base, and we retaliated perfectly. Then, these fuckers fly planes into civilian buildings and kill thousands of people... For that, kill the whole fucking breed.
  • Ban gay marriages
  • Excuse California from the country and erect an enormous wall to keep all those fruits and nuts out
  • Legalize human euthanasia
  • Legalize (or maintain legality of) anything else that people have no right to decide for other people, i.e. using drugs at home without hurting others, abortion, etc.
  • Stop fucking with the tobacco companies. They provide a product people want. Leave them alone.
  • Ban smoking bans. Allowing smoking is up to the person who owns the property.
  • Remove the concept of "hate" crimes.
  • Allow communities to pardon "criminals" by voting, so that when someone in a community kills a known child molestor, the community can decide if what he did was wrong and should be punished.
  • Legalize vengeance to any degree desired for rape or molestation by the victim or any immediate family member
Probably some more stuff, but I'm off to eat chicken parmesan.
Sounds like you should start at point one yourself and then reconsider some things.
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