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moogie 10-05-2012 05:32 PM

well it does matter, since I'm answering all the questions he's requesting, it's common courtesy. I am quite surprised to see that senior citizens are learning to use computers. That's awesome!

moogie 10-05-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235120)
I know for a fact that several of your large competitors white list the IP's of DMCA agents.

We are not ignoring Manwin and we cannot be bought.

Answer the question you are so busy deflecting and avoiding.

Are you against copyright infringement moogie ?

we have blocked some IP's of DMCA agents using scripts which was in essence ddos'ing our site. And that is an attack, we are well within our rights to block web attacks.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235122)
well it does matter, since I'm answering all the questions he's requesting, it's common courtesy. I am quite surprised to see that senior citizens are learning to use computers. That's awesome!

More deflection.

Answer the question.

Moogie, are you and UltraMegaBit against copyright infringement ?

moogie 10-05-2012 05:35 PM

How much has manwin paid you?

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235133)
How much has manwin paid you?

That's between us and Manwin.

Answer the question. Are you against copyright infringement ?

baddog 10-05-2012 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235122)
well it does matter, since I'm answering all the questions he's requesting, it's common courtesy. I am quite surprised to see that senior citizens are learning to use computers. That's awesome!

Okay, so I have to figure that you are probably 18+; but the "senior citizen" jab means under 30. I'm guessing 23.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:37 PM

I'll take the same stance then.

halfpint 10-05-2012 05:38 PM

wow you two still going at it lol...

moogie 10-05-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235134)
That's between us and Manwin.

Answer the question. Are you against copyright infringement ?

I'll take the same stance you have then. We can both play the 'you' first game.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235134)
That's between us and Manwin.

Answer the question. Are you against copyright infringement ?

My views on copyright infringement are in no way relevant to Ultra Mega Corp.

DWB 10-05-2012 05:40 PM

krylon!!!!!!!

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235139)
I'll take the same stance you have then. We can both play the 'you' first game.

Ok so you're not able to state publicly that you're against copyright infringement.

That's interesting. Especially considering that 96.7% of all links indexed by Google to files on your servers come from Warez sites, Release sites, Piracy forums, Piracy blogs and so forth.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19235138)
wow you two still going at it lol...

Well, he doesent want to say how much he was paid by the company which single handed killed the adult industry. Why should I have to answer his questions?

I mean it's great to run an anti-piracy operation funded by a pirate.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235146)
Ok so you're not able to state publicly that you're against copyright infringement.

That's interesting. Especially considering that 96.7% of all links indexed by Google to files on your servers come from Warez sites, Release sites, Piracy forums, Piracy blogs and so forth.

You have to realize, that links which are shared on the internet are likely to be indexed on google. Most people don't publicly post links on forums to stuff they're sharing with relatives or friends or co-workers.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235144)
My views on copyright infringement are in no way relevant to Ultra Mega Corp.

You work for UltraMega Corp, a company set up by a two bit online shelf company service, fill out a form, click , pay, click again - company formed.

No specialist lawyer set your company up, you're not all that credible in your responses to questions either.

Back to the question at hand.

Are you against piracy ?

Will you make it a feature of your terms of service that linking to files from a piracy or warez website is just cause for files to be removed ?

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235151)
You have to realize, that links which are shared on the internet are likely to be indexed on google. Most people don't publicly post links on forums to stuff they're sharing with relatives or friends or co-workers.

Do people join Pay Per Download programs for the few files they share with relatives and co-workers ?

In any case you were asked to post examples of legitimate use of your site, you have failed to do so.

Let me give you the opportunity again.

Please post some examples of genuine rights holders using your service to distribute their content.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235152)
You work for UltraMega Corp, a company set up by a two bit online shelf company service, fill out a form, click , pay, click again - company formed.

No specialist lawyer set your company up, you're not all that credible in your responses to questions either.

Back to the question at hand.

Are you against piracy ?

Will you make it a feature of your terms of service that linking to files from a piracy or warez website is just cause for files to be removed ?

So, now you're playing the my corp is better than your corp? Wow. Very tactful. We didn't feel the need to pay 10x the amount to form our corporation, when the end result is the same.

How is a anti-piracy operation funded by the largest adult pirate company on the internet?

halfpint 10-05-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235147)
Well, he doesent want to say how much he was paid by the company which single handed killed the adult industry. Why should I have to answer his questions?

I mean it's great to run an anti-piracy operation funded by a pirate.

Well at the end of the day that is up to both you and AdultKing what you want to say on a forum, but it seems pretty childish to keep arguing with each other over who, what were and when but it sure has a good entertainment value

moogie 10-05-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235155)
Do people join Pay Per Download programs for the few files they share with relatives and co-workers ?

In any case you were asked to post examples of legitimate use of your site, you have failed to do so.

Let me give you the opportunity again.

Please post some examples of genuine rights holders using your service to distribute their content.

Who ever said that they do?
You can find many examples of genuine rights holders using our service to distribute their content and earn money from our pay per download model. I have given you one example of a forum which much traffic comes from. xda developers. I'm sorry I can't go in and browse around at everything everyone is uploading. I do value safe harbor.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235156)
How is a anti-piracy operation funded by the largest adult pirate company on the internet?

I can't speak for fabian's motives in making a contribution. All I can say is that at no time has any favour been asked for and I have made it clear and consistent throughout that no favour would be given.

What I can say is that if you add up all of the money contributed by this industry I have matched that and then some out of my own pocket. In fact by the end of the year I will have put almost $100,000 of my own cash and in kind contributions to Copy Control and the IP Association.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19235158)
Well at the end of the day that is up to both you and AdultKing what you want to say on a forum, but it seems pretty childish to keep arguing with each other over who, what were and when but it sure has a good entertainment value

I know. Completely understand. I just wanted to make it absolutely clear, that he is funded by the largest pirates on the internet, and is allowing their millions of infringements with YOUR content on their servers to go unchecked, because they have made generous donations to him and his company before he starts soliciting you webmasters for more money.

Some pretty strange Business morals. But I have to log now. Thanks for the fun times.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235167)
I know. Completely understand. I just wanted to make it absolutely clear, that he is funded by the largest pirates on the internet, and is allowing their millions of infringements with YOUR content on their servers to go unchecked, because they have made generous donations to him and his company before he starts soliciting you webmasters for more money.

Some pretty strange Business morals. But I have to log now. Thanks for the fun times.

Completely untrue. I have already stated clearly and openly that NO CONTRIBUTOR is afforded any favour, exemption, preference, special treatment or anything else. We cannot be bought.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:53 PM

Moogie: Will you make it a feature of your terms of service that linking to files from a piracy or warez website is just cause for files to be removed ?

moogie 10-05-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235170)
Completely untrue. I have already stated clearly and openly that NO CONTRIBUTOR is afforded any favour, exemption, preference, special treatment or anything else. We cannot be bought.

You have been bought. You haven't even raised an eyebrow to the 100,000's of infringements from this company. But yet, small organizations like mine, and others are more of a threat than this company. I mean hell, you even did a 2 page story on our site? Not even one small mention or tweet about manwin? You said you're battling commercial piracy? Seems like that is commercial piracy on a massive scale. But yet you take donations from them. So, it is very obvious, that you are showing favor. Any person with some business morals, would have laughed at his offer. Assuming that ending commercial piracy is your real agenda.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235176)
You have been bought. You haven't even raised an eyebrow to the 100,000's of infringements from this company. But yet, small organizations like mine, and others are more of a threat than this company. I mean hell, you even did a 2 page story on our site? Not even one small mention or tweet about manwin? You said you're battling commercial piracy? Seems like that is commercial piracy on a massive scale. But yet you take donations from them. So, it is very obvious, that you are showing favor.

We are targeting infringing file lockers - all of them - no favours no preferences no exemption.

Krylon, you're going back to your old arguments. We're not targeting anything other than file lockers and the immediate eco system.

We're not targeting counterfeit goods importers, drop shippers, tubes, etc. We're targeting file lockers.

Not one single infringing file locker has been given a free pass.

moogie 10-05-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235181)
We are targeting infringing file lockers - all of them - no favours no preferences no exemption.

Krylon, you're going back to your old arguments. We're not targeting anything other than file lockers and the immediate eco system.

We're not targeting counterfeit goods importers, drop shippers, tubes, etc. We're targeting file lockers.

Not one single infringing file locker has been given a free pass.

It still does not change the fact that you have TAKEN MONEY from a known pirate organization to fund your ANTI-PIRACY operation.
and you speak of shady business practices.

versa 10-05-2012 06:01 PM

While quietly some file lockers are being auctioned off on Flippa, feel sorry for the folks that thought they were buying a legitimate business and realize what they bought into

moogie 10-05-2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235173)
Moogie: Will you make it a feature of your terms of service that linking to files from a piracy or warez website is just cause for files to be removed ?

Will you put a notice on your main page or about us page, that you receive donations from the owners of youporn, pornhub, and every other large pirate tube site, to fund your campaign against file lockers?

AdultKing 10-05-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235184)
It still does not change the fact that you have TAKEN MONEY from a known pirate organization to fund your ANTI-PIRACY operation.
and you speak of shady business practices.

You'll use any method of deflection to avoid the fact that you are an enabler of wide scale commercial copyright infringement. You pay people to upload infringing files. It's that simple.

The fact of the matter is, we would have ceased to exist a month ago without contributions, so I'll gladly accept funding from anyone, including you, but don't expect anything in return because you wont get anything in return.

lucas131 10-05-2012 06:06 PM

please everybody move, the new thread is here

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1084270

AdultKing 10-05-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235195)
Will you put a notice on your main page or about us page, that you receive donations from the owners of youporn, pornhub, and every other large pirate tube site, to fund your campaign against file lockers?

No, we don't list any contributors on the sites.

DWB 10-05-2012 06:08 PM

AK, you're just having your time wasted again.

moogie 10-05-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235204)
No, we don't list any contributors on the sites.

How about just stating, Our operation is in part funded by large adult pirate tube sites?

moogie 10-05-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235199)
You'll use any method of deflection to avoid the fact that you are an enabler of wide scale commercial copyright infringement. You pay people to upload infringing files. It's that simple.

The fact of the matter is, we would have ceased to exist a month ago without contributions, so I'll gladly accept funding from anyone, including you, but don't expect anything in return because you wont get anything in return.

This is absolutely not true. And your allegations are amazing. We have strict measures against people trying to earn off of infringing content.

But I guess if the DEA was running out of money they would take some from pablo escobar to continue their operations.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235226)
This is absolutely not true. And your allegations are amazing. We have strict measures against people trying to earn off of infringing content.

Describe those strict measures ? Do you prohibit the sharing of files on your service from piracy and warez sites - which accounts for thousands of links back to your service ?


Quote:

But I guess if the DEA was running out of money they would take some from pablo escobar to continue their operations.
I tell you what you don't realise, you are infringing on Manwin's own content. Content they own. It's been linked to in this thread as an example of your broad enabling of copyright infringement.

Your service is enabling the theft of millions of dollars worth of content, think about that.

[Labret] 10-05-2012 06:19 PM

Worst damage control ever.

This poor fuck knows his days are numbered.

moogie 10-05-2012 06:19 PM

You have no qualms about boasting how much Nautilus donates to you on a site read by many more viewers than copycontrol or stopfilelockers receive. Why not state publicly how much you have accepted from the pirates? We will pretend this is just an interview also, so you don't need to post it on copycontrol, or stopfilelockers. Just here.

http://i.imgur.com/yXw63.png

Webmasters, I recommend you stick with the trusted content removal companies such as pornguardian, or nateglass, but do you really want to trust a company who is paid by pirates? Will he really remove your content from his partners sites?

moogie 10-05-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235231)
Describe those strict measures ? Do you prohibit the sharing of files on your service from piracy and warez sites - which accounts for thousands of links back to your service ?




I tell you what you don't realise, you are infringing on Manwin's own content. Content they own. It's been linked to in this thread as an example of your broad enabling of copyright infringement.

Your service is enabling the theft of millions of dollars worth of content, think about that.

I cannot actively monitor every file shared on our service. If we have received a valid dmca takedown request to [email protected], then it would have been removed immediately.

moogie 10-05-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Labret] (Post 19235237)
Worst damage control ever.

This poor fuck knows his days are numbered.

Yes, I'm literally shaking.

Struggle4Bucks 10-05-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235239)
You have no qualms about boasting how much Nautilus donates to you on a site read by many more viewers than copycontrol or stopfilelockers receive. Why not state publicly how much you have accepted from the pirates?


http://i.imgur.com/yXw63.png

Webmasters, I recommend you stick with the trusted content removal companies such as pornguardian, or nateglass, but do you really want to trust a company who is paid by pirates? Will he really remove your content from his partners sites?

He doesn`t have to remove our content.. the only thing he "has" to do is remove those fucking file-lockers! So we don`t have to remove our content!

AdultKing 10-05-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235242)
I cannot actively monitor every file shared on our service. If we have received a valid dmca takedown request to [email protected], then it would have been removed immediately.

So those strict measures aren't so strict ?

I tell you what , you put in your TOS that sharing links on piracy websites is prohibited and will result in file deletion and actually enforce that measure then we'll report all the links to you and together we can wipe out most of that problematic piracy on your service ?

Surely having strict anti-piracy rules would mean you would jump at the chance to eliminate it from your legitimate service ?

DWB 10-05-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235218)
How about just stating, Our operation is in part funded by large adult pirate tube sites?

Here is what you don't understand... who cares who funds it?

If one larger pirate operation funded him with enough cash so that all the other pirate operations would end up going out of business, I'd call that a huge win. It is easier to deal with a large, professional group of pirates than it is a bunch of dodgy, wanna be pirates who cry like babies.

I'm not a fan of Manwin, but I'll take one giant Manwin over all you little shits.

moogie 10-05-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19235255)
Here is what you don't understand... who cares who funds it?

If one larger pirate operation funded him with enough cash so that all the other pirate operations would end up going out of business, I'd call that a huge win. It is easier to deal with a large, professional group of pirates than it is a bunch of dodgy, wanna be pirates who cry like babies.

I'm not a fan of Manwin, but I'll take one giant Manwin over all you little shits.

Sorry, is that a boy in your avatar? You can't expect me to take any of your comments serious. Apologies.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 06:30 PM

Moogie, seeing as you have strict measures in place to mitigate piracy how about you ou put in your TOS that sharing links on piracy websites is prohibited and will result in file deletion and actually enforce that measure then we'll report all the links to you and together we can wipe out most of that problematic piracy on your service ?

Surely having strict anti-piracy rules would mean you would jump at the chance to eliminate it from your legitimate service ?

moogie 10-05-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19235253)
So those strict measures aren't so strict ?

I tell you what , you put in your TOS that sharing links on piracy websites is prohibited and will result in file deletion and actually enforce that measure then we'll report all the links to you and together we can wipe out most of that problematic piracy on your service ?

Surely having strict anti-piracy rules would mean you would jump at the chance to eliminate it from your legitimate service ?

Robert, you have my email, I have gave it to you many times. Feel free to contact me any time with some of your ideas, but I don't feel the need to discuss any more operational matter over a porn forum.

AdultKing 10-05-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235263)
Robert, you have my email, I have gave it to you many times. Feel free to contact me any time with some of your ideas, but I don't feel the need to discuss any more operational matter over a porn forum.

We'll have the legal team send you a proposal, you can accept or reject it, we'll get that done Monday.

lazycash 10-05-2012 06:31 PM

Krylon just dug his grave. What do you guys think is the over/under on how long ultramegabit will remain online? I'm going with 21 days.

DWB 10-05-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogie (Post 19235260)
Sorry, is that a boy in your avatar? You can't expect me to take any of your comments serious. Apologies.

And there it is. The one fake nick who ALWAYS makes comments to me about ladyboys as soon as I make a comment to him. I was waiting for it, and you just did it. Thank you.

This is the same clown who has been here with 4 - 5 other nicks. He always says the same things to me.

moogie 10-05-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19235266)
Krylon just dug his grave. What do you guys think is the over/under on how long ultramegabit will remain online? I'm going with 21 days.

how is that? we have funds to pay for hosting for quite some time.

moogie 10-05-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19235269)
And there it is. The one fake nick who ALWAYS makes comments to me about ladyboys as soon as I make a comment to him. I was waiting for it, and you just did it. Thank you.

This is the same clown who has been here with 4 - 5 other nicks. He always says the same things to me.

what are you going on about? sorry, I just can't take you seriously, when i'm reading your post and have a boy looking at me with long hair dressed like a woman. :helpme


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