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dgraves 09-13-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty (Post 19188007)
For a while RapidGator was very compliant. So much so that I never had to contact their host. I tried my best to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they seem now to have turned a corner towards complete piracy.

It must have become too much work to be compliant and a lot easier/cheaper to ignore. I sent out a DMCA to them and their host so we'll see what happens.

I found a bunch of my content on pornbb and all the users were praising the upload monkey for such a great job and even referred to him as a "King". It's impressive that he mastered the right-click and "Save As...".

After further research, I can clearly see the effectiveness of AK's work and that is impressive.

AdultKing 09-13-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19188134)
It must have become too much work to be compliant and a lot easier/cheaper to ignore.

It won't be cheaper or easier in the long run.

Complying with takedown notices in an expeditious manner is the bare minimum we require of sites.

Site owners are ultimately responsible for the content they host and will be held accountable for permitting systemic infringements.

topnotch, standup guy 09-13-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19188134)
I found a bunch of my content on pornbb and all the users were praising the upload monkey for such a great job and even referred to him as a "King". It's impressive that he mastered the right-click and "Save As...".

It really is amazing what a good trainer can teach a monkey to do.


Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19188134)
After further research, I can clearly see the effectiveness of AK's work and that is impressive.

AK should be voted GFY webmaster of the year :thumbsup

dgraves 09-13-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19188163)
It won't be cheaper or easier in the long run.

Complying with takedown notices in an expeditious manner is the bare minimum we require of sites.

Site owners are ultimately responsible for the content they host and will be held accountable for permitting systemic infringements.

According to the info I found, Netvillage is located in Germany so what's stopping them from telling content owners to go pound sand?

AdultKing 09-13-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19188178)
According to the info I found, Netvillage is located in Germany so what's stopping them from telling content owners to go pound sand?

It's hard to run a site without an income.

dgraves 09-13-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19188262)
It's hard to run a site without an income.

I mean, if they don't have to comply with DMCA then what are the options?

I was surprised to see rapidgator using American Express as a processor.

AlexShark 09-13-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19180450)
:1orglaugh Better and cheaper health care, cheaper living, cheaper property, better quality of life, more opportunity, better food, very few laws, and you get to more or less do what you want to do with no hassle from anyone.

... and shopping malls packed with illegal copies of software, mp3s, movies etc :1orglaugh

AdultKing 09-13-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19188311)
I mean, if they don't have to comply with DMCA then what are the options?

I was surprised to see rapidgator using American Express as a processor.


Very few of the sites we have taken action against have to deal with DMCA. However this doesn't mean that copyright law is null and void.

Sites in every jurisdiction can face sanction for infringing content.

dgraves 09-13-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19188544)
Very few of the sites we have taken action against have to deal with DMCA. However this doesn't mean that copyright law is null and void.

Sites in every jurisdiction can face sanction for infringing content.

That's good news. How are content owners dealing with sites/hosts that don't comply with take-down requests?

His Infernal Majesty 09-13-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19188646)
That's good news. How are content owners dealing with sites/hosts that don't comply with take-down requests?

http://oron.com/ lol

SKUP 09-13-2012 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19188028)
bump for Rapidgator's swift demise! *eventually*

:winkwink:

"Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday. :upsidedow

MrDeiz 09-14-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19188747)
"Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday. :upsidedow

I love you and it has nothing to do with gay love :winkwink:

Nautilus 09-14-2012 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19188747)
Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday. :upsidedow

That's great. Was it Amex or MC?

AdultKing 09-14-2012 04:16 AM

The following 34 file lockers have had Paypal terminated.

file4safe.com
ortofiles.com
orangefiles.me
yourcellular.net
gigsfile.com
xurcun.info
divxbase.com
tishare.com
kupload.org
unlimitshare.com
migaload.com
tishare.com
thexyz.net
brontofile.com
datei.to
d-h.st
remixshare.com
videozer.com
file-bit.net
limelinx.com
netuploaded.com
auexport.com
carrier.so
ydownload.org
zedupload.com
midupload.com
boosterking.com
xfilesharing.ca
DynaUpload.com
Neoxfiles.com
filesega.com
bigupload.com
Uploader.pl
uploadur.com

Shap 09-14-2012 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19188990)
The following 34 file lockers have had Paypal terminated.

file4safe.com
ortofiles.com
orangefiles.me
yourcellular.net
gigsfile.com
xurcun.info
divxbase.com
tishare.com
kupload.org
unlimitshare.com
migaload.com
tishare.com
thexyz.net
brontofile.com
datei.to
d-h.st
remixshare.com
videozer.com
file-bit.net
limelinx.com
netuploaded.com
auexport.com
carrier.so
ydownload.org
zedupload.com
midupload.com
boosterking.com
xfilesharing.ca
DynaUpload.com
Neoxfiles.com
filesega.com
bigupload.com
Uploader.pl
uploadur.com

Wow nice job!:thumbsup

SKUP 09-14-2012 04:26 AM

Is it Saturday already? Wow, time flies :upsidedow

SKUP 09-14-2012 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19188817)
That's great. Was it Amex or MC?

Can't tell yet, but just a matter of time.

DWB 09-14-2012 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19188990)
The following 34 file lockers have had Paypal terminated.

file4safe.com
ortofiles.com
orangefiles.me
yourcellular.net
gigsfile.com
xurcun.info
divxbase.com
tishare.com
kupload.org
unlimitshare.com
migaload.com
tishare.com
thexyz.net
brontofile.com
datei.to
d-h.st
remixshare.com
videozer.com
file-bit.net
limelinx.com
netuploaded.com
auexport.com
carrier.so
ydownload.org
zedupload.com
midupload.com
boosterking.com
xfilesharing.ca
DynaUpload.com
Neoxfiles.com
filesega.com
bigupload.com
Uploader.pl
uploadur.com

Not sure why there was a vote for GFY Hall Of Fame. It should just be given to you.

DWB 09-14-2012 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19188747)
"Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday. :upsidedow

good stuff.

Axeman 09-14-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19188747)
"Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday. :upsidedow

That is excellent news!

Tjeezers 09-14-2012 08:40 AM

bump fuckerdie bump

krylon 09-14-2012 11:13 AM

bump for some great progress!!!

Captain Kawaii 09-15-2012 01:28 AM

Bump for AK Love

Mutt 09-15-2012 03:09 AM

amazing - you can't buy a premium subscription to any of these big file lockers with Paypal now. :thumbsup

on the downside, i really don't think it will translate into an increase of sales to paysites. there are lots of factors that went into killing the paysite biz.

topnotch, standup guy 09-15-2012 09:58 AM

imageporter.com

An image host that pays the upload monkeys on a per view basis and has no posted DMCA contact info whatsoever.

Maybe someone should upload a blasphemous picture of the prophet Mohammad onto there and then post the link onto all of the file sharing forums :)




.

Tjeezers 09-15-2012 03:16 PM

Happy Bump day to me

dgraves 09-15-2012 04:38 PM

Any news on RapidGator? I have one jackass on pornbb uploading my stuff daily and would love to see him shut down.

Paul Markham 09-16-2012 12:15 AM

Back to the top.

DWB 09-16-2012 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19191418)
imageporter.com

An image host that pays the upload monkeys on a per view basis and has no posted DMCA contact info whatsoever.

Maybe someone should upload a blasphemous picture of the prophet Mohammad onto there and then post the link onto all of the file sharing forums :)

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

AdultKing 09-16-2012 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19191921)
Any news on RapidGator? I have one jackass on pornbb uploading my stuff daily and would love to see him shut down.

We're working on a whole lot of sites, RapidGator is just one.

Triple-A 09-16-2012 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19191418)
imageporter.com

An image host that pays the upload monkeys on a per view basis and has no posted DMCA contact info whatsoever.

Maybe someone should upload a blasphemous picture of the prophet Mohammad onto there and then post the link onto all of the file sharing forums :)




.

I used their contact page and sent a DMCA that way.
Images got taken down after a few days.
My upload monkeys have stopped using this shitty image hoster
Do they still use Paypal? Haven't looked for a while, they were using them though...

dgraves 09-16-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19192476)
We're working on a whole lot of sites, RapidGator is just one.

Sounds good man! I stopped looking a long time ago and I'm going to pay someone to chase them down with DMCA's. It's too time consuming and it just pisses me off.

BrainwashBucks 09-16-2012 08:01 PM

Thanks!
 
Thanks to everybody who has had some part in bringing down so many of the file lockers. We are a super tiny company, and produce some VERY niche content, so it hit us really hard. I just wanted to recount one story and show you something you might find...funny?

One of our big things is tickling. This guy was posting basically every video us and every other "major" tickling producer (as major as tickling production gets) would put out. Some guy who we think is in Russia. He went through a few different file lockers until he found the "best one" for being annoying to DMCA - MegaUpload (in his opinion). He got slowed down pretty hard by Degban, but kept going, but eventually when MegaUpload got shut down, he shut down for good - we thought.

He came back with a private torrent site, hosted on Ecatel (they don't give a shit about anything, much less DMCA) using public trackers.

I'm not sure if it's bad manners to post the link to his site - it's full of pirated tickling videos - but his hubris, and the outpouring of fawning thanks from his fans is so ridiculous I just wanted to show somebody:

EDIT: I removed the link because I'm not sure if it's allowed to post it. If it is, I'd like to -- his "About" page and comment section are ridiculous.

It starts "In the beginning of 2012 to all filehostings war has been declared. Megaupload has been destroyed by U.S. federal authorities."

As far as I can tell, there's pretty much nothing that can be done when videos are pirated like this. None of the private trackers that are used will do anything (of course), and things like torrent poisoning look way beyond the ability of anything but a major company with a lot of resources (like HBO did). At least torrents are more cumbersome...

dgraves 09-16-2012 10:48 PM

Degban is the company I'm talking to right now to take care of my uploaded content. I heard they do a pretty good job.

It's like any crime, there's not way to completely stop it, all we can do is manage it.

It's extremely frustrating when it's one douche bag that's causing most of the problems. It's the 80/20 rule.

AdultKing 09-16-2012 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19193688)
Degban is the company I'm talking to right now to take care of my uploaded content. I heard they do a pretty good job.

It's like any crime, there's not way to completely stop it, all we can do is manage it.

It's extremely frustrating when it's one douche bag that's causing most of the problems. It's the 80/20 rule.

Degban will happily charge you money but they will have little effect.

dgraves 09-17-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19193721)
Degban will happily charge you money but they will have little effect.

Why do you say that? Which company would have effect?

DamianJ 09-17-2012 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19193752)
Why do you say that?

Because Degban sell snake oil.

Loads of companies will charge you several hundred dollars a month for a computer to send out DMCAs. Will it make ANY impact to your sales? No.

Spend that money on improving your marketing, tour, testing, UX, customer service, anything really and you will see an measurable impact on your sales.

Triple-A 09-17-2012 03:22 AM

Sadly I factor in time to monitor piracy myself now as well as all the other duties I do on a daily basis, it really pisses me off when a couple of individuals can cause so much damage!

I'd rather spend the additional time marketing my site instead

dgraves 09-17-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19193935)
Sadly I factor in time to monitor piracy myself now as well as all the other duties I do on a daily basis, it really pisses me off when a couple of individuals can cause so much damage!

I'd rather spend the additional time marketing my site instead

I was doing this for awhile but it's just too time consuming and it's more cost effective to pay someone else to do the leg work. One company wants $400/month for both sites and another wants $750/month for both sites.

It chaps my ass to have to pay for something like this. AK seems to be making pretty good progress and it's not nearly as bad as it use to be but still an issue. I might wait it out a little while to see where things go with file lockers.

SplatterMaster 09-17-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19194426)
I was doing this for awhile but it's just too time consuming and it's more cost effective to pay someone else to do the leg work. One company wants $400/month for both sites and another wants $750/month for both sites.

It chaps my ass to have to pay for something like this. AK seems to be making pretty good progress and it's not nearly as bad as it use to be but still an issue. I might wait it out a little while to see where things go with file lockers.

Just sending out DMCA won?t stop your problem. You need to get into your raw logs and weed out the offenders. Yes, it?s a lot of work and very time consuming.

chris99 09-17-2012 12:12 PM

Takedown Piracy Removes 10 Millionth Copyright Infringement
 
don't want to spam this thread, but do want to let everyone know the good news: takedown piracy has removed its 10 millionth copyright infringement.

in addition, tdp is ranked by google as the #1 infringement reporter against the pirate bay and most tube sites.

thought this was pretty cool info. i'll post more in the announcements section if you want to read.

chris

dgraves 09-17-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris99 (Post 19194845)
don't want to spam this thread, but do want to let everyone know the good news: takedown piracy has removed its 10 millionth copyright infringement.

in addition, tdp is ranked by google as the #1 infringement reporter against the pirate bay and most tube sites.

thought this was pretty cool info. i'll post more in the announcements section if you want to read.

chris

Always good news!

AdultKing 09-17-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris99 (Post 19194845)
don't want to spam this thread, but do want to let everyone know the good news: takedown piracy has removed its 10 millionth copyright infringement.

And there's probably been 20 million to replace them. :2 cents:

DMCA is a circular process that does not cut to the core of the problem.

DMCA has it's place but is like putting a bandaid on a deep wound, it's also expensive for rights holders and after one year of using a DMCA agent the rights holders are in pretty much the same position as they were when they started.

topnotch, standup guy 09-17-2012 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19193768)
Because Degban sell snake oil.

Loads of companies will charge you several hundred dollars a month for a computer to send out DMCAs. Will it make ANY impact to your sales? No.

Spend that money on improving your marketing, tour, testing, UX, customer service, anything really and you will see an measurable impact on your sales.

A cynic would respond by telling you that better marketing will only result in more freetards searching for your content on file sharing forums and tubes.

And in doing so, that cynic would be at least half right :disgust
.

AdultKing 09-17-2012 08:25 PM

It seems Netload have added credit card payments to their payment options, insecure, non SSL manually processed credit card payments.

Basically they accept credit card numbers into an insecure form with no sanity or number checking and then try to manually process them.

alcstrategy 09-17-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19195699)
It seems Netload have added credit card payments to their payment options, insecure, non SSL manually processed credit card payments.

Basically they accept credit card numbers into an insecure form with no sanity or number checking and then try to manually process them.

If that is actually the case I think you can report it to visa or whatever card they take and get them investigated or fined for lack of pci compliance

AdultKing 09-17-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcstrategy (Post 19195727)
If that is actually the case I think you can report it to visa or whatever card they take and get them investigated or fined for lack of pci compliance

I doubt Netload will care, in any case a card company investigation is the very least of Netload's problems.

alcstrategy 09-17-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19195731)
I doubt Netload will care, in any case a card company investigation is the very least of Netload's problems.

Well the fines can be hefty and it's possible they can lose all merchant rights

AdultKing 09-17-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcstrategy (Post 19195732)
Well the fines can be hefty and it's possible they can lose all merchant rights

Providing they have a merchant facility in the first place, it's more than likely these card transactions are being processed through some other entity. We should know more about that in a few days.

dgraves 09-17-2012 09:23 PM

These guys are getting very desperate, good sign.


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