expose her for what she is - maybe you'll help these other models avoid some emotional and financial heartache.

SNRCash/CWH - relationship with partner/owner ends badly, litigation

SpunkyCash - relationship with owner/employer ends badly

LiveCamCash/OHC - relationship with owners/partners/models/affiliates ends badly

LOL - she's STILL promoting GotGisele.com and Viorotica.com to this day on other models' blogs she is still working with. I guess when Abbie makes sales on Gisele and Violet's paysites she has no problem getting paid. Gee, what a shock.

http://luxxxie.com/blog/?p=854
http://litalenee.com/blog/

hopefully no one will have any links to any shit Abbie in involved in, seems like she is a top notch scumbag

Hopefully, Abbie will use CCBill straight up.

Get my cake weekly sonnn...

I agree! :2 cents:

Why promote her new projects if you weren't paid on her old projects?

Until all the facts come out...

Waiting for Gisele's video.

"put this cake in your face"

Hey Mutt...
Ever wonder who is in care and control of the epoch (us) accounts. Hint name starts with "Abbie"... After all is said and done why not question why the person in care of the money is not paying and not the biz partners she fucked over.

Senator ... Ya let's wait for a video about what's going on made by a model that has not worked for them since? Wouldn't it just be simpler to just say abbie (formerly know as the "poor me, I have all the cash but will let my biz partner and an emplyee take the wrap" girl.) Is fucking everyone over. Or option 2 we can sit and wait on some model that thinks she needs a % off every site that has her content up when the tubes are full of it. Models always give me the best biz advice loo

unbelievable there are those who are going to continue to support her new sites - good luck with that! :1orglaugh

So.. Abbie = Sean DeFreitas = Luc Perreault

http://qkme.me/3p4z5g

This.

Unfortunately, these models aren't going to listen. They think Abbie is going to make them a star. And when she's bad mouthing anyone and everyone she's fucked over, (I'm a dirty slut, she fired me, etc) they believe it. A few girls have been smart enough to ask around, but most of the new girls are pretty far up Abbie's ass.

This woman pretended to be a completely fictional person for years, using photos of someone else to break into the industry. Her excuse to avoid meeting her business partner at one point, she had HIV. Complete pathological liar. Just ask anyone from CamWithHer. I'm surprised everyone doesn't know this by now. . .

I'm not keeping quiet anymore. Fuck it.

Thank You....much respect.

If you have sites that convert their type of content, what else should you do? Make no money? I've been screwed over by so many programs, and there are so many dead sites floating around, it doesn't leave much to push. It sucks and I lost money over this, but I also made money while they were running and operational. I will only consider it if it's on CCBill at this point, so I don't have to go chasing checks. I completely understand why so many affiliates just say fuck this and sell their sites or just quit.

Violet did you and Gisele have access to the sales stats for your sites?

Yes, through livecamcash.

And believe me guys we begged for months, years even, for them to use third party billing like ccbill.
We were told that it would be way more expensive, and they were saving us money. Instead we were provided with pay breakdowns, typed up by Sean I believe. With a lot of unexplained miscellaneous fees. I feel like a complete moron for trusting them. :(

well you both left IHeartBucks where i'm sure you both made more money - the grass doesn't turn out to be greener usually when somebody is promising it will be.

solo sites are not what they once were - more money to be made on MFC.

I won't speak for Gisele, but that's not the case for me. My paychecks were absolute shit with IHB.

Webmasters always promise to make me so much money. lol I've accepted that maybe I'm just not cut out for a solo site. Who knows what the future holds. Kicking ass on MFC though. :)

the solo market isnt what it used to be. i miss 2005 :)

You girls should cam on streamate too.. I need more hot girls to promote on my white label

You're an 'alt' girl, your content was artsy fetish style and don't do hardcore so you are kinda right, not really the mold for a solo site model. MFC is a great option for models. Looks like hard work though.

it was always run by a group of scammers who ripped off people years ago.

no shock they're at it again.

http://www.freeones.com/hallofshame/

i just don't get it. why wouldn't you pay the people who are the reason you're making money?

your affiliates are the reason you have what you have, treat them like gold and watch your wallet grow.

those people are idiots.

if there's one thing we've learned, it's that people don't learn.

I'm on streamate, though I admit I'm not very active. Every time I sign on it seems a bit slow. I'm always willing to give it another try, & open to advice.

Never been interested in fitting into a mold. My fan base likes that about me. :) MFC is easy money, but you have to have thick skin for sure.
Guess I just missed it! Started around '06.

Anyway this topic isn't about me. Sorry!

Violet what's your email address? Nothing about solo paysites, abbie, mfc, or personal. just have a question for you.

[email protected] :)

No idea really. Funny thing is most of the programs on the list we were pushing rev-share AND were still selling well when they decided to fuck us (and many others) over.

Like in this very case, LCC was always selling great. It's just bad management, bad personalities and bad choices :2 cents:

or just good thiefs?

haha yes :thumbsup

Oddly enough, this doesn't just happen in our industry. Check out any service industry, same story. There is always some company somewhere who isn't paying their employees on time, and for some reason, the employees still stick around.

Would love to see a psychological breakdown of both sides of that situation. It's very strange to watch.

I am shocked they wouldn't pay out to such a huge site like Freeones.. Then again in 2 years, there was not ONE instance where after a week or 2 after the 1st of the month, I (the model and talent preforming for all paying members) was not paid on time. As Violet mentioned, pay was NEVER on time and the "breakdowns" were written by "them" .. so safe to say I am pretty sureee that was extremely honest and accurate ;) LMFAO...

Suppose the biggest fool of them all is myself for allowing such nonsense.. But live and learn ;) I did start asking questions from the start when I noticed pay wasn't really matching up to what it should be based on stats etc.. But of course people go to any measures to cover ones ass when truth starts to come out.. During my involvement with GotGisele.com, Abbie acted as I suppose the "middle man" for the models and the rest of the team. I now am very suspicious of just how many lies and exaggerations were passed back and forth so she could be buddy with us all. Sean may indeed have been and is the only one responsible for the dishonest financial mishaps. But as a model I am also unpleased in the ways Abbie showed to play all sides.. red flags for ones character when you go to any measures to appear innocent. Eventually truth reveals itself and all the lies and manipulations will be the wrath of karma.
When I would address my concerns I would be cast the title of "Diva who demands too much" .. When really I was just realizing the lies and fraudulence that was surrounding me. Smart woman is what Id like to call it ;) It was an incredibly hard decision to once again leave another solo site.. the money was good, I truly do appreciate and respect my members, and ENJOY my job in every aspect. But like any relationship, one must never settle. I know my worth, I know my talents and I refuse to just be a "money cow" for someone who deep down I believe is in this industry purely to control something that they feel they never could have or be.

THIS is the sole reason I do not wish to work on my next projects with "partners" .. because i do not believe anyone will ever care about my site, content, members etc as much as I do. Yes a % can be negotiated and or salaries given out to those both invested 24/7 and for those just doing odd jobs, but I have learned that all too often when it comes to having "partners" and they own the site... you are nothing but a money maker. I care too much and work too hard to have someone ever even think that they "own" me.

I didn't forget about making the video ;) got busy this weekend but I def want to elaborate a little more because it would take novels to express my complete opinions..
Yall just wanna see bewbs :girl

Gisele you coming to Miami for the party this month?

http://www.EpicPandaCash.com
http://www.pinkvelvetvault.com

Seem to run a tight ship and always pays out.

No Gisele, stop giving her the benefit of the doubt that she might have just been some 'middle man'. She is promoting YOUR site and Violet's on her new blogs for other models. She would not be doing that if she wasn't STILL getting money from GotGisele and Violet's site.

I wish CAM WITH CARMEN aka Carmen Bella would be manage by someone different.

She is an incredible money maker.

Carmen needs to be a contract model.

cant let this get onto the 2nd page

Her and Gisele have made me(well, us) boat loads of cash.

Agree with you about pinkvelvet and epicpanda as well. :thumbsup

Looks like they all either deleted their Facebooks and/or removed me.

Whoops.

I wish :( I am actually going to be in cali the 10th-12th attending a movie premier!! i didn't start hearing about the expo until this month.. :(